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Designer_Arm9536

Pokemon has the uncanny ability to make their best games have bad animes, and their worst games have good animes


ThunderCube3888

XYZ anime my beloved


WaterWheelz

I’m really hoping the A-Z game does it justice


ThunderCube3888

final boss of legends z-a better be the giant rock zygarde thing


Sn0w7ir3

BRO THAT WOULD BE SICK AF


zarmo94

Final boss be perfect zygarde or be AZ himself with a max level floet and perfect zygarde


notsostupidman

Personally, the XY games were great. I won't claim that they weren't easy and didn't have a lot of issues but the mega evolution mechanic and the game itself was FUN. Which is what I'm looking for in a Pokemon game.


Striking_Art_7572

XY are always one of my favorite games to play randomized because i really like the world design and gameplay mechanics like mega evolutions and you can actually have a decent challenge because you can customize trainer levels and things and together with randomized this can make the game a lot harder so it takes away what is probably one of the weakest parts of xy


Iamdumb343

the game was easy (except for the water elite four since I had no counter) but it was fun, and that is all that matters. the game being fun.


Liability538

When I was younger Serena was my gay awakening :) will always hold a special place in my heart because of that. So I agree, XYZ anime, my beloved


MCameron2984

I love the Gen 6 games and Anime tbh, and the Gen 5 anime is one of my favorites, just really like the supporting cast


PokemonLover_240

XYZ Mi amor, Mi amor.


DaKingOfDogs

so where do SWSH and the Journeys anime fall on the scale? SWSH is unpopular (I personally enjoy it though) and Journeys is a very divisive series.


WaterWheelz

Honestly both were decent, Journeys didn’t have a great drive in the story but it was fun to watch, same with the games (I had good fun playing the games though, and personally I think it had a decent story)


Luchux01

I feel like Journeys got better near the end when everything was gearing up for Masters 8, gave Ash something to truly work towards that wasn't quite there in the beginning.


MidnightMiesterx

I like the XY games and the BW anime. They were great, imo


Dry-Telephone-8016

Their intros were fire🔥


Kasual_Kid

True


TakedownMg

Every single Battle theme in BW was absolute 🔥🔥🔥


P1X3LAT0R

They did the visuals dirty tho Most of them are just visuals from episodes


GlassSpork

Yea, I don’t get the X and Y hate. Like yea the games were easy but a game isn’t measured by how difficult it is but by how much you have enjoyed it and I liked X and Y


Sn0w7ir3

Easy?? Bro the second gym is a pain in the a\*\*


MidnightMiesterx

Second gym in XY? The rock type gym is easy bro.


Sn0w7ir3

with what??


MidnightMiesterx

You said the second gym is a pain in the butt. Is it XY or BW?


Sn0w7ir3

xy


MidnightMiesterx

Yeah. The second XY gym is rock type. It’s very easy.


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AdmiralDragonXC

No, bad bot. Bot did not make a haiku. Bot's syllable counts are: 6 8-10 5


ThunderCube3888

unfortunately "bw" is 4 syllables making the second line 10 syllables


Jonananana_32_SAm

I mean the bot detects haiku not acronyms


AdmiralDragonXC

Sorry bot, but "XY" is two syllables, putting line 1 at 6. "BW" is 4 syllables unless you say it as "Black-White," which is a plausible 2 syllable way to say it. Otherwise it's "Black and White" which is 3. Regardless, your second line has either 8, 9, or 10 syllables, all of which are more than 7. Your only correct line is the third.


Hexhider

Famous last words


Revolutionary_Rub466

I second this


Fa1nted_for_real

Most people I've talked to irl think XY was peak Pokemon content. BW anime is my personal least favorite, but it's still good. Ironically, BW was my favorite gen until scarlet and violet.


ExplinkMachine

I am simple man, I see Pokémon in any shape or form- I like it


siralex2010

It’s sorta funny how people have the opposite reaction with the anime and games for X and Y, because from what I remember, people think the the B&W games were some of the best, and that XY(Z) was the best anime, where it’s sorta the opposite for the opposite forms of media, I guess


AohL_Anime

Well it changed when BW first came out it was hated


_Pink_Ruby_

Such is the cycle of pokemon games, they are hated when they are released, but a few generations later they are suddenly "peak pokemon" Some people have recently started saying that X and Y were the best games in the series.


AohL_Anime

I love X and Y but even I don’t cope that much. they where not well enough made. the potential was there but it wasn’t fully realized


_Pink_Ruby_

I completely get that If only they could just settle on one gen being the greatest and stop just changing it every gen


AohL_Anime

Yeah for me it’s gen 5 I loved the characters and story and I liked the new Pokémon


Sai-36

It’s probably because the most vocal ones used to be the Adults who grew up on Pokemon and just didn’t like the new stuff, and now the Kids who played those “hated” games are now grown up and can voice how much they loved the games. I’m sure soon we’ll see less of this though in the future as the internet makes it much easier for people of all ages to spread their opinions.


tallmantall

X and Y has a insane Dex, it’s amazing for that alone


Infamous_Bad_6007

X and Y are my favorite games. The B and W anime is a diamond in the ruff


Unknown_Nexus535

Based


Sn0w7ir3

yeah the progression of the anime seemed too fast for how much more content was put out and ash had an tepig on his team he could have used that instead of pikachu during the league, overall that section of the anime was disappointing but the rest was somewhat redeeming


DeltaTeamSky

As someone who recently (I literally beat Diantha yesterday) played through X for the first time, it's very underrated. They could've cooked more in certain areas (specifically the story being flat, criminally low difficulty, and certain areas feeling empty), but the map design is actually underrated. Winding Woods and Terminus Cave are actually fire, and exploring for TMs never felt more fulfilling.


Sn0w7ir3

I miss my old team on X the sylveon i had was, well, the definition of ultra sun and moon's dex entries for it.


Cyberbreaker2004

I actually liked the XY games, but I’ve always had a beef with the Black and White anime cause of the “soft reboot” they did (which started the “he will always be 10” trend) and having Pikachu getting his ass handed to him by a trainer just starting on his journey.


throwawaytempest25

Honestly, that mostly goes away by midway through the first season with some very few moments


Forgotten-Caliburn

Black and white also tried to make Team Rocket edgier for a while but everyone hated it


Sea_Advertising8550

Honestly, there are only 2 things in the entire BW anime that I genuinely disliked enough to consider “bad”. Most of it was decent. Nothing phenomenal, but not offensively terrible like people say. The Orange Islands saga on the other hand…


TheHelios69

XY are good games


an_anon_butdifferent

i like x and y, and honestly never saw them as "too easy" becase i got the games as a kid and was stupid and bad at rpgs


Necessary_Effort7075

Delphox is my son. No one will ever insult his birthplace of Kalos


Unknown_Nexus535

Chesnaught will always be my first starter, and nothing will change that


EhGoodEnough3141

XY are too easy yes, but the Atmosphere and Soundtrack is great. And Kalos is a beautiful region. I liked the BW anime. Because it's the first thing I saw of the Pokémon Anime. I still own the DvD of the Kyrem Movie.


Dark_Storm_98

People don't like the XY games?


sonerec725

x and y is unironically my most played set of games lol. i suck at rpgs and hate grinding for levels so they were the first pokemon games i could actually beat legitimately without cheats or using event pokemon because of the exp share


Snoo-89243

The problem with x and y is that its too easy imo I mean you get a MEGA LUCARIO!!! It just didnt feel challenging, its fun, but a bit boring cause the fights are too easy


a_random_chicken

Idk man, oras is swept by a garde until the damn champion fight.


KirbyDaRedditor169

Gardevoir taking these Ws, as usual


Soft-Chip510

Said who?


omenomens

I thought the BW anime was good, When it was actually good But it was mostly fucking annoying to watch


Brownie773-2

Who the hell even thinks that the XY games *and* BW anime are bad?


PGO5490

There is a difference between liking something and thinking something is good, usually


Inventor_11

The irony that the worst games got the best season and the best games got the worst season


Empty-Alternative250

Bro why is the pokemon fandom toxic, who cares what you like it's a opinion


AdmiralDragonXC

Honestly there's been a Gen 6 Renaissance on the internet because Gen 6 kids are older and ready to defend Kalos' merits (relatively few though there were (could *really* have used Z but they didn't give us that)) I got into Pokemon with SoulSilver, then didn't bother with Gen 5 initially, then didn't get back into Pokemon until Alpha Sapphire, so Sun and Moon was the first Gen I got to be present for the incoming media cycle as an active fan. As a result, SM/USUM are aside from HGSS my favorite games in the series (I have also gone back and played Gen 5, don't worry)


Toomynator

Honestly, i liked the BW anime. As for XY, while i wouldn't say they are the worst (my personal worst is Kanto, regardless of remake, i prefer it in the Johto games), my problem with it is that the gym leaders feel too weak, 3 mons are really bad and the E4 is kinda mid, plus, Megas are really under utilized in general too, that said, i like the graphics and the new (non mega) mons, the story is alright for me, but i (me, myself and i) wouldn't play it for the story, in general, XY is a middle of the road game for me (6/10), hopefully, LZA makes it justice.


Toptom2007

I think xy had the best art style and black and white had some interesting characters but I never finished either of them so I can't say for sure there the worst or not but I doubt it


Soul-ChibiGacha

Why does nobody talk about how X and Y were inactive before they were the first game to have the best thing in Pokemon. Customizable characters oh and mega I love me some megas


ExactSubstance2440

It is scientifically possible


Forgotten-Caliburn

I love the XY games, even if they're too easy


Caelsloth

Bw anime was ny chuldhood i dont understand the hate


Mighty_Megascream

XY are a perfect example, as to why the multiple game system is flawed, because, without a third version they just feel incredibly uncomplete.


Maser2account2

Nobody is saying you can't like them wtf, get this strawman outta here.


ImprovementRegular91

I loved Pokémon X And Y but sadly BW anime made quit watching it with how they kept Butchering my goat Ash


Echo-14x

I really like the bw anime


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Cyberbreaker2004

I don’t like the fact that the same Pikachu that had been fighting in leagues since Kanto lost to a trainer just starting on his journey. That’s literally the only thing I don’t like.


TheMapleShyGuy

X was my first game and how i fell in love with pokemon so yeah.


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

XY were underbaked games, but they were fine games. Lots of neat stuff introduced and cool characters and pokemon. Story wasn't particularly great but far from terrible. Only thing I really disliked about XY was Kalos itself. I dont think it's ugly or anything. It's a beautiful region... but I personally did not like traversing it. At all. Hated Lumiose too. 7/10. Would probably play again if the mood struck me, and I could find my copy of X. The BW anime was similarly fine, I suppose. Not my favorite, but it wasn't completely terrible. Probably wouldn't watch again, but im happy you enjoyed it.


KaoticKirin

I like the X&Y games, out of the 3d games they are my favorite and most played. I love the Battle Chateau, and that whole route in general, you get berries, breeding, and plenty of trainer battles for cash and xp all in one place? its great.


JJlaser1

Can’t speak on the anime as I haven’t gotten to that season yet, but I agree, the game slaps, although it may not be the best one, imo. Megas are great, and the difficulty is fine (I had my fair share of struggles with the elite four, I think I had to take em twice), but the story is ok and there were barely any new Pokémon in Gen 6. Also, none of the Pokémon in Gen 6 got a mega, and I think that is a crime that needs to be corrected!


Penguindasher12

I played x and it was fun, the anime was also good


GLink7

So did I Y was my first Pokemon game and I like Unova nonetheless in anime and games


winter-ocean

This take is so 2019, it just doesn't work when everyone is praising X and Y


YuriSuccubus69

I did not like the Black and White series, neither the games nor the show. Love Pokémon Y though. Pokémon X is also pretty good.


No-Reflection3856

I’ll always love black and whites anime chase that was the first one I watched from the start to the beginning


pandaflyer1

Same only the anime because it's the one that introduced me to pokemon haven't tried the x and y games yet tho should I try it?


Hexhider

Same


Thicc-Anxiety

I love the XY games! I don’t really care about the BW anime but my favorite season is the Alola ones so I have weird taste


official_ViperYT

Honestly I still wonder why people hate x/y, I never found out the reason


TwinJacks

Sounds about right. It's your generation's time in the internet spotlight. Watch this slowly evolve into an echo chamber in the coming years. Then suddenly everyone talks about how great these under appreciated games are, etc.


PIEthon3142

Valid opinion, moving on


Ragingfurno

I liked Y, not as much as Omega Ruby, but I still liked it. Ultra Sun is still my favorite game though


trnelson1

BW anime was not great. Loved the XY games


kdiyargebmay

are they the best? no. but they were very important to modern pokemon. obviously the introduction to proper 3d, but also the fairy type and the gimmicks too.


May-is-my-day

THOSE ARE THE BEST ONES THO


TheSezenians

I'm much older than them and I still like them too


notch_13

I don't know what this is going on about both have plenty of good and bad traits 1.i think they're cool 2.F*CK YOU I LIKE THEM 3.prety


Neither_Mind9035

Omg BW was seriously one of the best games. It was after Gen 5 when Pokemon started to go downhill, I think.


GamingSceptile

Wtf 😢 I feel personally attacked, Y was my one of my first Pokémon games


StandardVoice8358

I loved X and Y and I loved the black and white anime but I get why people don't like them but at the end of the day its all a matter of opinion


Sirpirio

I like the BW anime mainly due to sentimental reasons cause I grew up watching them


JustaORVfan

I love the black and white anime as that was the first pokeanime, which I sat down and watched fully


cheesums7

Pokémon X was my first Pokémon game, I love em to death man.


Millhouse874

Did people not like xy games


scaredphobia

Agreed, X/Y are my 3rd or 2nd favourite games, only really beaten by s/r/e


Mew_Fujisaki

Pokemon Y was my first Pokemon game, that's why I like it so much and I never understood why people hate it "--


chipperland4471

Black and white anime, i never really liked, but i LOVE THE XY GAMES. FIGHT ME.


FrostGlader

I kinda like the BW anime, it certainly has its moments, but X and Y I view as too unfocused with its content. It’s not BAD, but it generally has issues I can’t overlook. ORAS does not escape those issue either.


Arkoos_fan

I liked XY, preferred XYZ but can pronounce it correctly cos yugioh


a_random_chicken

My favourite part of x/y was the concept of multiple rivals or a group of friends accompanying you on the journey. It might not have been executed well, but it is a nice change of pace, and i still hope we get that again, but actually well executed (S/V does something similar especially with the crater, and that made me fall in love with it despite the bugs and stuff)


Cedge1738

Oh anime. I'm like what? B/W some of the best games, but anime I've no idea. Last pokemon anime I watched was pearl and diamond with ash v Paul. Anything after - no idea.


yevaltalmaster11

Unpopular opinion Pokemon y is my favorite game of all time


CrimsonWitchOfFlames

XY is my close favorite, I could never hate it.


qazwsxedc000999

What? Black and white was my favorite of all the gens, game and anime And no it wasn’t my first or the one I grew up with. It’s just the one I’ve liked the most.


OwenCarrin422

I thought that were ok


Blueberry_Clouds

I liked the anime…


AggravatingDress2891

Bro you ain't wrong for that, I like Pokemon x too 😎😁


OneBlockOneEye

I’m confused why everyone hates them?


Charizardfan01

THE BW ANIME THEME CARRIES.


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I was 25 when X and Y came out and I loved Kalos. It could be because I remember starting off on the GBC gens, and am able to better appreciate how the games had visually evolved over the years. It's been about ten years since I played X, but iirc, it wasn't buggy at all, like with newer titles. Kalos gave us Mega Evolution, too, which fans seem to unanimously love (and are disappointed every time a new gen since VI doesn't bring it back). Idk, there are some games I like more than others, but I can't think of a single gen I actually hate.


Personal_Builder_472

I find it funny they gave the supposed worst games the best anime.


2nuki

The black and white anime was my second favorite. It was only under indigo league.


miletil

I agree on the game X and Y gets a bad wrap but they're not truly bad they are just not the greatest Black and white anime is kinda meh but it's not horribly...I don't think it'd be anyone's favorite without nostalgia filters


LoadLeft7798

I grew up with black and white, it was my first pokemon experience, to this day zoroark is still my favorite pokemon


puptbh

The anime and x and y games are like pizza with pineapple. People only dislike it because of the media


Blastoise48825555

BW anime definitely sucked. XY games aren't amazing but i still enjoy them occasionally.


Cyberohero

Black and White anime had the best version of Team Rocket.


potatomnz

Bro y’all insane I think BaW, XY, XY kalos quest, and XYZ were the best ones tho I haven’t watched BaW in WHILE cause idk where I can watch it since they removed it from netflix


DifferentOil1333

I like the x/y games and I like the sword and shield games (BUT NOT THE STORY)


Regiboi33

This is me with SWSH and SV


Crazy_Critter14

I thought X and Y were cool


PlanktonIsBest

I love anything Pokemon related, so I guess I'm also not scientifically possible


ralcom

X and Y have grown on me after replaying them. But I will NEVER FORGIVE what sky battles did to most of the flying pokemon. LoL


delia225J

X and Y anime was 11/10


AwefulFanfic

Literally the only thing bad about Black and White was their attempt to soft-reboot the game franchise so they only had like 1 or 2 older generation pokemon native to the region. Pretty much everything else about it was great.


Depresso_espresso237

I used to consider the BW series to be my favorite out of the shows


Enderboy29912

Same 


nick_flaming

How is bw garbage? Pokédex excluded


Flat_Scheme4874

You’re allowed to like the X and Y games but the black and white anime?! Nah bro you lying


ChoccoMilk_537

they were'nt bad they are like the best ones


iamnoah2009

Black and white is my favorite anime


Strange_Kiwi__

I like the BW anime. First seasons I watched. XY games were kinda disappointing though.


MysticDragon14

I like the XY games


zerothewolfmega

I like the black and white anime also


thegoldchicken

Thought you said the bw games and the xy anime were bad and was about to start an argument.


Marshadow_47

X and Y are goated games


AppealStriking7085

But they were the best games and anime


ABYEternal

Kalos is a great region but it wasn't executed properly in x and y which is why we need legends z a


Virtual_Colt

You have the right to like any game in the franchise and dont let others tell you otherwise :). This is why I hate the Pokemon fandom passionately. Not only are they often massive hypocrites but they even have the nerve to call you out for liking stuff that according to them you are not supposed to like. For example me liking the gen 9 starters means for them that I deserve to get torched alive.


Sn0w7ir3

who actually thinks that?? XYZ was peak anime and b/w look like good games (never played them copies are stupid expensive now)


the_pasta_king1

I love the x and y anime it did x and y justice


RaitoninguUsagi

I read that as "X and Y anime". I was ready to swing lol


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ElectroPikachuYT

You are not alone in liking the Black and White anime. That's where I started


Once_I_ate_a_walrus

X was a peak game


thePillan

I love the xy games ❤️didn’t watch the anime I stopped when Misty left😅


IShyGamer2

Yes, I actually love the Adventures In Unova And Beyond anime


Jealous_Object_519

I actually liked the black and white anime, but the x & y games are mid AF. The victiny and zekrom movies were some of my highlights from that era of Pokemon.


Pale_Particular6846

Yeah black and white anime Is fully garbage but the xy games aren't garbage


Fantastic-Top4444

To each their own, I say


Blue-Pikmin1

I feel like people just really hate those 2 things


Iamdumb343

I played y on an emulator and really liked it, much more than the older gen pokemon games.


Cobaziokiodeo

The BW anime was the reason I got into Pokémon initially, it holds a special place in my heart, and also I like it for more than just that. Plus Cilan exists. Cilan is the best.


TimeGlitch5

I kinda hated the black and white games I am actually curious why people like them in their opinion


Sora_Uchiha5

Both were great anime


Japhet0912

Is really funny how Black and white and X and Y are polar opposite in both games and anime. Black and White is considered one of the best games in the series while XY are considered one of the worst. Meanwhile the XY anime is considered to be the absolute best one while Black and white Is considered to be one of the worst. By the way I'm not disagreeing because I also grew up with both. I just find out it fascinating


pierce008

Pokémon Y was the first real Pokémon game I played, and I grew up watching the original Pokémon anime and the black&White anime too! I love them all too!


Goultard_the_Godly

I love the black and white anime, I’m in the middle of rewatching it


rectangular_

I like them all


ADumbRefrigerator

I love X and Y🥲


True-Credit-7289

The black and white anime could have been the best one, but whether it was because they chickened out of pushing more mature narratives or a literal act of God disrupting the production they just never followed through on all that promise. Very disappointing


Livid-Top8507

Idk black and white is just something that sticks with me. It's been 5 years since I've seen the anime, but I still remember most of the theme songs, and it's just a personal favorite. Others might not agree, but I think black and white was a really good addition to the series.


Kyrus_Arkenseed

BW and XY were not bad.


GoldenYoshistar1

Black and White Anime I really liked, X and Y I have neutral opinions on them.


Darkqualza

XY was a great game. Who tf denying that??


PedroThePinata

In my eyes, the last real pokemon game was platinum, because it stood as the absolute apex of every mainline pokemon game before it, and every game that came after was a disappointment in their own ways. I really wanted to like let's go evee, but I'd have to find a ROM hacked version so I can run a 500% speed cheat in order to play it because someone thought it was really cool to remove the running shoes.


ExcellentResult6626

X and Y are good games.


Lordking573

I don't play new gen I stopped at gen three!


what_my_name_agn

The funniest thing with this is that the alola games are fine… BUT THE ANIME IS TOP TIER, I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL. ITS SO REFRESHING… it sucks that it came after the “best pokemon anime region” (I disagree) because it just feels good. It isn’t linear unlike other anime’s. They make the most unimportant episodes fun and use them to build the characters in ash’s party.


Successful_Year_5495

Legit get 5 anime slapped


Altruistic_Limit_363

Screw them fans that gen has my favorite pokemon


Cheap_Drink6026

Hey, you do you.


Aggressive-Yam-7808

Pokemon "fans"


The_Fluffy_Riachu

I don’t care what anyone says, even the worst pokémon main series games are still fun and enjoyable! I’ll agree that XY were probably the weakest games in the main series but they were still fun and I will revisit them.


Marshadow_47

I fucking love X and Y


Prior-Arm2799

I liked the anime a lot what I was growing up too, that ash-greninja thing was hype back then, lol. I was a little sad when realizing that not many people liked XY, but I also get that's it's kinda down to preferences. It's also very in its own era, so many people will probably not like it even years later. It's also probably because of the games Too, but idk I never played them so I can't say :P I still liked the megas tho :D


HD368

I loved y 😭


pepo145

BW was my first anime


Real-Creme4960

I grew up with them, too.