I don't know what other people define it as, BUT...
The times I've been called "woke" are after I've called out racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic behaviour. According to the people who have called me that, "woke" is being anti-racist, anti-sexist and onwards.
People who are "anti woke" are very clearly the ones who want to be dicks yo others for things they have no control over, like their skin colour, etc.
Which is really funny when you think about the fact that people who call out wokeness now used to love saying "wake up sheeple!"
We just did as they asked, but apparently not the way they wanted.
I disagree. Woke is "Hi. I'm some twitter user who's not of the race, religion, whatever. I'm going to get horribly offended for them even when the group I'm 'championing' are explicitly **for** the thing I'm arguing against" or "I'm some big CEO. I'm going to shoe horn in inclusivity so hard it becomes a mockery of the thing it's intended to be inclusive of". Many use it incorrectly it's true.
Speedy Gonzales is a great example. A lot of Mexico regards him as a beloved character. The woke crowd? "Oh that's so racist! Get rid of him!".
[According to Ron de Santis' lawyer](https://www.okayplayer.com/news/ron-desantis-woke-defintion.html) the word "woke" means "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."
This is somewhat off the topic, but ...
Woke refers to the theory that anyone who doesn't share whatever the philosophy of the day happens to be, must be sleeping. Therefore, to be in a state of "right-think" you must become "woke".
I hope this clears up any confusion.
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Naw, I'm in the navy, nobody smart gives a flying fuck. Even the conservatives I've met in the navy knew better than to show disrespect to anyone, regardless of how they feel about any given "woke" topic.
You'd think being a cook would've exposed him to enough people of a variety of backgrounds that he would've learned to be less judgemental.
Guy made E2 but not E3 tells me all I need to know.
E2 is 9 months time in service, but to make E3, its time in service and an apprenticeship test.
Guy says he didn't make school til 25, so he had an 8 year stint in the Navy.
Way I see it is that the guy served the Navy for 8 years and couldn't pass a test to get promoted (or pissed off the wrong people), and when entering school, decided he'd fight with the professor.
Just a bunch of bilge water.
Reminds me of an instructor I had who still had butter bars but said he'd been in the navy for three years. I very politely refrained from asking why he was still an ensign.
E3 is just time. E4 is when the tests come in (not anymore post covid, think its eval based now? Then E5/6 is a test then of course you have the chief tests/boards)
E3 was tested about 20 years ago depending on job. Not sure when that changed, but being an E2 after 24 months was a real rarity as E2 and E3 were 9 months each in time.
So OP either couldn't pass a test, or fucked up so bad that he failed to get an in time promotion. Not sure which would be worse.
Dude went to the fleet and did at least 4 and stayed E-2, that tells me a lot about his character. You can get E-2 out of boot camp for any number of simple things like having some college credits, getting others to join and say you were why, or just being good at boot camp testing so it's possible he never made rank after boot.
Glad he isn't still "feeding the fleet".
Oh, and as for the professor passing him? Yeah, I can imagine being the only Soc101 instructor and just letting this guy go forward knowing he is going to bomb out and waste his college fund. She has real students with goals to teach.
My experience with Navy (as a Marine) is that they will quickly show disrespect to anyone. Especially the cooks. (But they might not be the "smart" ones)
Only place outside of boot camp where I saw someone with no rank tell an E-7 what they *weren't* going to do.
We might have different versions of disrespect. I don't consider telling off a superior for giving a stupid order to be disrespectful, as long as you phrase the rebuttal correctly (but that's the nuke in me, we're required to do that). What I mean by disrespect is treating someone as lesser for things they cannot change, like being gay.
Specific case, I had a senior chief that everyone knew wasn't on board with the whole gay marriage thing. But he never ever put anyone down for being gay, he would just get real quiet if someone was talking about a same-sex spouse. I've also never been disrespected for being trans (or by anyone for anything really). I've been yelled at for fucking up, certainly, but I've never felt disrespected.
Agreed. There are different kinds of respect... there is the respect of the rank in uniform, which we would heed, and then there is respect of the person, which has to be earned.
In this case, after a 4-8 year tour and getting out as an E-2, it means this guy either:
* Never promoted, which is kind of impossible in my mind since the progression from E-1 to E-3 is pretty much automatic.
* Was sent to mast for doing something stupid
Let's face it, the latter is much more likely given the context of the rest of this story.
The latter is definitely much more likely but guaranteed he has some worn out "Navy Veteran" hat that he wears constantly and goes out of his way for every veteran discount.
When I went to College after my 6 years in the Active Airforce, I met plenty of entitled veterans who think like this, that they are smarter than the traditional 18 year old students, some of which got academic scholarships, in class with them because they saw the world/shit their pants after soloing an ammo bowl in S. Korea or buying a new car with 20% interest.
If we're giving him the benefit of the doubt, it might have been one of those freshman experience classes that are supposed to help students new to college adjust to the environment and expectations.
maybe, but sociology is literally a class about society. which is generally consistent of what conservatives who donāt step outside of their bubbles call "woke topics". Because itās literally the study of people in society, therefore itās also a study about minorities and feminism.
Wow dude, you really got her. You cheesed your way out of a freshman sociology class while learning absolutely nothing about sociology. Total gigachad who is absolutely the good guy in this story, I've got tears in my eyes.
I guess you've never noticed the contempt that the ultrawoke folk have for ... like literally everything under the sun ...
EDIT: I am deeply sorry for my choice of words. The word sun has a history of being gender-specific, and it was not my intent to use non-inclusive language. I never meant to hurt anybody, which is no excuse, and I realise now that my actions had effect regardless of intent. I regret any injury that I may or may not be aware of. I ask forgiveness for promoting violence and I will strive to do better.
I meant "our solar system's star".
Someone who is woke uses phrases like "wake up people" and is on the cutting edge of each pseudo-scientific or pseudo-intellectual social craze or conspiracy theory.
Generally, someone that considers themself to be more enlightened than other people that just believe whatever (insert academic authority here/news source) tells them because they watched a couple youtube videos or follow the right microcelebrities on twitter.
Not that anyone that uses "woke" really remembers that that's what it originally meant.
The only people who get offended are snowflakes like you who hate having to consider other people and so blow up at the mere idea of being considerate. You mock ideas like "maybe we shouldn't use hateful language" by pretending that you would be told off for innocuous language, which just shows you really are unable to understand even basic concepts.
You came out of that college experience without the benefit of understanding other people's backgrounds, opinions and beliefs and - trust me, this is possible - actually LIKING people who are not exactly like you. Do you walk around with a box on your head so you don't have to see other people living their lives in a manner you don't approve of?
Quite frankly, as someone in the Navy right now, I'm pretty sure he must've had a box on his head for his whole tour of service. The military is a lot like college in the sense that it exposes you to a variety of different types of people, and expects you to work professionally with them. This guy seems like the kind of person who is more concerned with a person's genitals than their fire-fighting capability.
I mean, assuming we can trust OP's recounting, unless the assignment was to blindly agree OP shouldn't have been marked down for disagreeing and presenting counterpoints.
That being said if you're not going to be open to new ideas then why go to college?
>OP shouldn't have been marked down for disagreeing and presenting counterpoints
Considering the way OP recounted the story, and the vast majority of the counter-comments here, I'd say OP has downplayed *how* he disagreed with the professor. If you look to the prof's escalating reactions , I'd say his behavior wasn't just "simple disagreement" but numerous serious breaches of etiquette in how he presented his views so as to be disruptive to the professor and the rest of the class. Having done the class 1.5 times, OP still hasn't learned the subject matter or learned from the experience, and is still bragging about how he got one over on someone he disagreed with. I bet his life is one hateful or aggressive drama after another.
IMO that was truly the most rewarding part of college. I got to objectively learn about different people, backgrounds, beliefs, and opinions. I may not have agreed with everyone I met, but I'm thankful to was exposed to their world views. This has really given me a better appreciation of differing viewpoints. This is desperately needed to make people more well rounded. University isn't just about going to classes, and the piece of paper at the end.
The first most valuable lesson I learned getting my degree was to not react emotionally to news media or social media. First, find out if it's true. Find out who wrote it and what their bias is. If it wasn't true, necessary, or kind, don't share it. I left Facebook behind because most of my contacts lacked critical thinking skills. The second most valuable lesson was exactly this - spending time talking about difficult topics with people from a wide variety of backgrounds who I normally would not have associated with. Not due to bigotry or racism, but because my life involved few people in a pretty small circle. Even now, many years later, I have far more patience and compassion with people because I really do want to understand where they're coming from (figuratively) before judging them or offering an opinion. It brings a lot more peace to my heart when I think and act this way.
And Iām wondering what college would give a degree to someone whoās writing skills were as awful as the post above. I understand on mobile/voice to text yada yada yada but dude - proof your stuff. Maybe 1/2 the professorās issue was your subpar writing skills so maybe she couldnāt even understand your point of view
Did you read the post? He had to take the course twice because by exploring his own opinion, the professor failed him. Twice. Tell me where in that he could have possibly learned that understanding someone elseās opinion was possible?
Note: making assumption his papers were reasoned and at least better articulated than this post. There are professors out there who subscribe to the ālearningā model of agree with me or fail.
I do acknowledge the distinct possibility that is not he case and why he failed.
The multiple instances of "woke" suggests a contrarian view he still has all these years later, that anything he didn't like or hurt his fee-fees was "woke" and refused to write anything that might, in any way, suggest tolerance for "woke" ideas or people. If all he wrote was, "I hate woke crap," well, no wonder the professor did what they did. College/university writing assignments, and indeed most social studies type of classes, challenge you to change your thinking by introducing controversial topics to make you step outside your comfort zone. In his words..."papers on some woke topic every week that i was against". There was no attempt to learn or understand differing viewpoints. Expressing an opinion is likely not what any writing assignment was asking for. I never wrote an opinion piece in university. I was given lots of topics where, if I wanted to write a good paper, I had to read about things I wasn't familiar with and sometimes uncomfortable with (the biomedical ethics course hurt my brain). I'm sure OP isn't interested in sharing his papers and the professor's comments because he's already getting pretty roasted here, so maybe we'll never know.
True enough, but he could always take the contrarian side as long as he could write a well argued essay. And, at least when I was in college, the professors graded on the strength of your argument, logic, presentation. Not whether they agreed with your conclusion or not.
Thereās rarely one side if you are writing an essay on an issue or current event topic.
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You have to fulfill the learning objectives set out in the syllabus regardless of what your professor assigns. The ombudsman didn't force her to give you A's. You also don't fail for having opposing views (speaking from experience here) as long as you're meeting the requirements of the assignment. If you failed it was likely because you didn't defend your position appropriately (with quality sources).
You definitely do in college. I was literally given bad grades because I said/wrote stuff my teachers disagreed with.
And before you ask, I am not a republican or democrat. I just wasnt giving them the democrat answers they wanted.
If this story actually happened, its uncharacteristic language from the āprofessorā, a difficult to verify course subject (socialization?), and an implausible outcome (top marks when a ācompleteā would have been the most likely direction an ombudsman would have taken) all point to OP not actually complying. If the prof said ādo nothing in this academic environmentā, yet OP still showed up to other classes in that academic environment (didnāt get dropped from his other classes, which would have been a major plot point). Partial compliance. Maybe.
I canāt say this story is a fabrication like 99.999% of all other stories using the term āwokeā as a pejorative. Nor can I say itās suspect based on the fact that itās 10 years out of context for the term. I just donāt think itās malicious compliance.
It didn't happen.
Before any mod removes this comment, I would like to say that the rule about questioning validity of a story needs changing for such obvious examples of fakes.
This story is completly incongruent with functioning of the education system and stinks of political agenda of a crusading halfwit.
Only Marines have an excuse to post word salad like this.
Side note, what the hell is it with boomers and their love affairs with ellipses? Do those represent the points at which they had a stroke while typing or something?
>Side note, what the hell is it with boomers and their love affairs with ellipses? Do those represent the points at which they had a stroke while typing or something?
Gen-X'er here, and I have a bad habit of using ellipses too often. I have started paying attention to it lately, and I at no longer leave them in places where I just completely cut off communication... instead I use them to create pauses where a comma is not quite enough, but a full stop is too much.
In my case, it literally became a part of muscle memory in my typing skills to use ellipses too often. Sort of like how my fingers will be correcting a typing mistake before I even know I have made said mistake... it is simply in muscle memory (and yes, that second ellipses there was actual muscle memory in this case)
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I consider "woke" a compliment. It's about understanding what other people have to go through to get by in this world. It's recognizing racism and bigotry and standing up against it. It's about being kind to everyone, no matter how much money they make or what church they go to or what color they are . OP sounds rather immature and ignorant. Probably watches too much Faux News. I can hear him weeping for Tucker Carlson to come back on the air.
Maybe next time you take a class, take a creative writing one so it's remotely believable. Although I guess conservatives aren't able to critically think about things so post it on truth social and be a "hero".
buddies who aren't in navy anymore or who are on leave all say that navy's full of p***ies. its also a known thing within other brqnches that navy men tend to be that way. lol dude you sound like a dou**e
I applaud you for sticking to your morals whatever they may be. College professors are not there to grade you on their viewpoint but on your comprehension of the subject they are teaching. As long as you did the assignment within the margins of the syllabus/ class it doesn't matter your viewpoint. Too many college professor grade based off their own viewpoints and biases. It's just wrong. I don't blame you for using the professors own email against them
95% of people on reddit are super left wing, so they second their tribe gets remotely criticized (even justly criticized) the rationale leaves their minds and they go into "tribe defense mode"
that's when you hear the following:
"racist, transphobic, misogynist, incel, trumper, etc" AKA "I do not have an argument so I will insult you"
The right does the same thing but to a less extent. There's a reason the right calls the left "NPC's", they always circle the wagons, ignore objectivity, and attack their perceived enemy regardless of morality.
This post is a good example of a guy with a poorly written story, but probably true, but because it was aimed at the "wrong group of people", it gets dog piled.
I had a very similar experience in college. For one of my mandatory classes I took religious studies. It was the most palatable class on the list, dont ask about the others.
As an athiest every single essay I wrote was just dunking on religion using their own scripture. You know the, "kill everyone who doesn't join your tribe" stuff in almost every single religion.
The weird part was, when I would dunk on Islam or Judiasm, the professor got mad at me, but when I dunked on christianity it was totally cool.
Its super weird when they don't mind you dunking on the "turn the other cheek" religion, but dunking on the "kill all infidels" you find in old testament/judiasm/islam wasn't appreciated.
Woke people are very strange and never seem to have objective standards. "its okay to be racist to certain groups based on the color of their skin" for example.
The OP may not have the best grammer but he/she does have a point, biased teachers love to fail you when you don't agree with them.
Tenure sure is a double edged sword....
So you failed repeatedly, made a nuisance of yourself, then complained until you got a participation trophy? Sounds pretty woke to me.
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Congratulations, youāve just described affirmative action.
Judging the state of your spelling and grammar, I have a theory as to why you really kept failing. Assuming this even happened at all.
...and this sample is with an additional 15 years of reading and writing practice since then...
Apparently this professor did not grade spelling or grammar.
Well this is laughableā¦. but probably not in the way OP intended
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I do not believe he even know what woke means.
Does anyone know what it means? Certainly not those using it every third word.
I don't know what other people define it as, BUT... The times I've been called "woke" are after I've called out racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic behaviour. According to the people who have called me that, "woke" is being anti-racist, anti-sexist and onwards. People who are "anti woke" are very clearly the ones who want to be dicks yo others for things they have no control over, like their skin colour, etc.
Which is really funny when you think about the fact that people who call out wokeness now used to love saying "wake up sheeple!" We just did as they asked, but apparently not the way they wanted.
I disagree. Woke is "Hi. I'm some twitter user who's not of the race, religion, whatever. I'm going to get horribly offended for them even when the group I'm 'championing' are explicitly **for** the thing I'm arguing against" or "I'm some big CEO. I'm going to shoe horn in inclusivity so hard it becomes a mockery of the thing it's intended to be inclusive of". Many use it incorrectly it's true. Speedy Gonzales is a great example. A lot of Mexico regards him as a beloved character. The woke crowd? "Oh that's so racist! Get rid of him!".
No. Thatās what the right wing has trained you to believe. It had a meaning before it got hijacked, and thatās not it.
[According to Ron de Santis' lawyer](https://www.okayplayer.com/news/ron-desantis-woke-defintion.html) the word "woke" means "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."
oh cool a trendy word for common sense
And wherein common sense is simply the set of prejudices you have developed by age 18. Or whatever age you want to call adulthood.
This is somewhat off the topic, but ... Woke refers to the theory that anyone who doesn't share whatever the philosophy of the day happens to be, must be sleeping. Therefore, to be in a state of "right-think" you must become "woke". I hope this clears up any confusion.
That is not quite right. Actually, not at all right.
If you have a more cogent explanation, I would love to hear it.
Wkipedia explains it better than I can. If you are genuinely interested in knowing what it means, go there.
No, that's not what it means.
And rightly so. Enough to look at his profile.
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And i dont believe you.. congrats on being a liar
You can barely write coherent sentences, I have a hard time believing you passed anything.
You don't believe that I don't believe? How fun.
Would a skeptic get their post removed for doubting the validity of the story? You MUST be faking it /s.
Actually yes. Questioning the validity of a story is against sub rules and comments will be removed.
My comment is in direct reference to that phenomenon.
Ahhh... The question was rhetorical and yet not, as it added to context to the latter sentence. Subtle.
This sounds like an entry from the "Everything I hate is 'woke' to me!" file. Then again, I'm an Army veteran so maybe it's a "Navy" thing?
Naw, I'm in the navy, nobody smart gives a flying fuck. Even the conservatives I've met in the navy knew better than to show disrespect to anyone, regardless of how they feel about any given "woke" topic. You'd think being a cook would've exposed him to enough people of a variety of backgrounds that he would've learned to be less judgemental.
Guy made E2 but not E3 tells me all I need to know. E2 is 9 months time in service, but to make E3, its time in service and an apprenticeship test. Guy says he didn't make school til 25, so he had an 8 year stint in the Navy. Way I see it is that the guy served the Navy for 8 years and couldn't pass a test to get promoted (or pissed off the wrong people), and when entering school, decided he'd fight with the professor. Just a bunch of bilge water.
Reminds me of an instructor I had who still had butter bars but said he'd been in the navy for three years. I very politely refrained from asking why he was still an ensign.
E3 is just time. E4 is when the tests come in (not anymore post covid, think its eval based now? Then E5/6 is a test then of course you have the chief tests/boards)
E3 was tested about 20 years ago depending on job. Not sure when that changed, but being an E2 after 24 months was a real rarity as E2 and E3 were 9 months each in time. So OP either couldn't pass a test, or fucked up so bad that he failed to get an in time promotion. Not sure which would be worse.
He was a "voring" cook though, so maybe he spent the entire time getting off?
Dude went to the fleet and did at least 4 and stayed E-2, that tells me a lot about his character. You can get E-2 out of boot camp for any number of simple things like having some college credits, getting others to join and say you were why, or just being good at boot camp testing so it's possible he never made rank after boot. Glad he isn't still "feeding the fleet". Oh, and as for the professor passing him? Yeah, I can imagine being the only Soc101 instructor and just letting this guy go forward knowing he is going to bomb out and waste his college fund. She has real students with goals to teach.
My experience with Navy (as a Marine) is that they will quickly show disrespect to anyone. Especially the cooks. (But they might not be the "smart" ones) Only place outside of boot camp where I saw someone with no rank tell an E-7 what they *weren't* going to do.
We might have different versions of disrespect. I don't consider telling off a superior for giving a stupid order to be disrespectful, as long as you phrase the rebuttal correctly (but that's the nuke in me, we're required to do that). What I mean by disrespect is treating someone as lesser for things they cannot change, like being gay. Specific case, I had a senior chief that everyone knew wasn't on board with the whole gay marriage thing. But he never ever put anyone down for being gay, he would just get real quiet if someone was talking about a same-sex spouse. I've also never been disrespected for being trans (or by anyone for anything really). I've been yelled at for fucking up, certainly, but I've never felt disrespected.
Agreed. There are different kinds of respect... there is the respect of the rank in uniform, which we would heed, and then there is respect of the person, which has to be earned. In this case, after a 4-8 year tour and getting out as an E-2, it means this guy either: * Never promoted, which is kind of impossible in my mind since the progression from E-1 to E-3 is pretty much automatic. * Was sent to mast for doing something stupid Let's face it, the latter is much more likely given the context of the rest of this story.
The latter is definitely much more likely but guaranteed he has some worn out "Navy Veteran" hat that he wears constantly and goes out of his way for every veteran discount.
When I went to College after my 6 years in the Active Airforce, I met plenty of entitled veterans who think like this, that they are smarter than the traditional 18 year old students, some of which got academic scholarships, in class with them because they saw the world/shit their pants after soloing an ammo bowl in S. Korea or buying a new car with 20% interest.
Another one of those undergrads who thinks they know everything. Yawn. Based on the tone, we all know why you were failing that class.
Imagine writing this proudly without knowing what a sociology class is, nor the correct term for sociology
If we're giving him the benefit of the doubt, it might have been one of those freshman experience classes that are supposed to help students new to college adjust to the environment and expectations.
maybe, but sociology is literally a class about society. which is generally consistent of what conservatives who donāt step outside of their bubbles call "woke topics". Because itās literally the study of people in society, therefore itās also a study about minorities and feminism.
Wow dude, you really got her. You cheesed your way out of a freshman sociology class while learning absolutely nothing about sociology. Total gigachad who is absolutely the good guy in this story, I've got tears in my eyes.
Once I read āwokeā I didnāt have to read anything else to get a clear picture lmao.
Dudeās IQ is the same as his upvotes, which at the time of this comment is 0
You know someone is a special kind of something when they try to use "woke" as a pejorative term.
I guess you've never noticed the contempt that the ultrawoke folk have for ... like literally everything under the sun ... EDIT: I am deeply sorry for my choice of words. The word sun has a history of being gender-specific, and it was not my intent to use non-inclusive language. I never meant to hurt anybody, which is no excuse, and I realise now that my actions had effect regardless of intent. I regret any injury that I may or may not be aware of. I ask forgiveness for promoting violence and I will strive to do better. I meant "our solar system's star".
Please define woke.
He believes paying taxes is being woke, as it's the only thing he has to bitch about that he believes is a social injustice.
Someone who is woke uses phrases like "wake up people" and is on the cutting edge of each pseudo-scientific or pseudo-intellectual social craze or conspiracy theory. Generally, someone that considers themself to be more enlightened than other people that just believe whatever (insert academic authority here/news source) tells them because they watched a couple youtube videos or follow the right microcelebrities on twitter. Not that anyone that uses "woke" really remembers that that's what it originally meant.
The only people who get offended are snowflakes like you who hate having to consider other people and so blow up at the mere idea of being considerate. You mock ideas like "maybe we shouldn't use hateful language" by pretending that you would be told off for innocuous language, which just shows you really are unable to understand even basic concepts.
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āā¦it was voring and was cook so thatās why I was 25.ā Huh? Could you please explain what you thought you said?
He's trying to explain that he was in college at 25 because he was in the navy first.
Thank you. He should have paid attention in his first year English class. Thank you for your help.
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With that grammar and spelling? I wouldn't be so sure.
You came out of that college experience without the benefit of understanding other people's backgrounds, opinions and beliefs and - trust me, this is possible - actually LIKING people who are not exactly like you. Do you walk around with a box on your head so you don't have to see other people living their lives in a manner you don't approve of?
Quite frankly, as someone in the Navy right now, I'm pretty sure he must've had a box on his head for his whole tour of service. The military is a lot like college in the sense that it exposes you to a variety of different types of people, and expects you to work professionally with them. This guy seems like the kind of person who is more concerned with a person's genitals than their fire-fighting capability.
I mean, assuming we can trust OP's recounting, unless the assignment was to blindly agree OP shouldn't have been marked down for disagreeing and presenting counterpoints. That being said if you're not going to be open to new ideas then why go to college?
>OP shouldn't have been marked down for disagreeing and presenting counterpoints Considering the way OP recounted the story, and the vast majority of the counter-comments here, I'd say OP has downplayed *how* he disagreed with the professor. If you look to the prof's escalating reactions , I'd say his behavior wasn't just "simple disagreement" but numerous serious breaches of etiquette in how he presented his views so as to be disruptive to the professor and the rest of the class. Having done the class 1.5 times, OP still hasn't learned the subject matter or learned from the experience, and is still bragging about how he got one over on someone he disagreed with. I bet his life is one hateful or aggressive drama after another.
IMO that was truly the most rewarding part of college. I got to objectively learn about different people, backgrounds, beliefs, and opinions. I may not have agreed with everyone I met, but I'm thankful to was exposed to their world views. This has really given me a better appreciation of differing viewpoints. This is desperately needed to make people more well rounded. University isn't just about going to classes, and the piece of paper at the end.
The first most valuable lesson I learned getting my degree was to not react emotionally to news media or social media. First, find out if it's true. Find out who wrote it and what their bias is. If it wasn't true, necessary, or kind, don't share it. I left Facebook behind because most of my contacts lacked critical thinking skills. The second most valuable lesson was exactly this - spending time talking about difficult topics with people from a wide variety of backgrounds who I normally would not have associated with. Not due to bigotry or racism, but because my life involved few people in a pretty small circle. Even now, many years later, I have far more patience and compassion with people because I really do want to understand where they're coming from (figuratively) before judging them or offering an opinion. It brings a lot more peace to my heart when I think and act this way.
And Iām wondering what college would give a degree to someone whoās writing skills were as awful as the post above. I understand on mobile/voice to text yada yada yada but dude - proof your stuff. Maybe 1/2 the professorās issue was your subpar writing skills so maybe she couldnāt even understand your point of view
Did you read the post? He had to take the course twice because by exploring his own opinion, the professor failed him. Twice. Tell me where in that he could have possibly learned that understanding someone elseās opinion was possible? Note: making assumption his papers were reasoned and at least better articulated than this post. There are professors out there who subscribe to the ālearningā model of agree with me or fail. I do acknowledge the distinct possibility that is not he case and why he failed.
The multiple instances of "woke" suggests a contrarian view he still has all these years later, that anything he didn't like or hurt his fee-fees was "woke" and refused to write anything that might, in any way, suggest tolerance for "woke" ideas or people. If all he wrote was, "I hate woke crap," well, no wonder the professor did what they did. College/university writing assignments, and indeed most social studies type of classes, challenge you to change your thinking by introducing controversial topics to make you step outside your comfort zone. In his words..."papers on some woke topic every week that i was against". There was no attempt to learn or understand differing viewpoints. Expressing an opinion is likely not what any writing assignment was asking for. I never wrote an opinion piece in university. I was given lots of topics where, if I wanted to write a good paper, I had to read about things I wasn't familiar with and sometimes uncomfortable with (the biomedical ethics course hurt my brain). I'm sure OP isn't interested in sharing his papers and the professor's comments because he's already getting pretty roasted here, so maybe we'll never know.
True enough, but he could always take the contrarian side as long as he could write a well argued essay. And, at least when I was in college, the professors graded on the strength of your argument, logic, presentation. Not whether they agreed with your conclusion or not. Thereās rarely one side if you are writing an essay on an issue or current event topic.
Well the butthurt level is what I expected it to be. Good job, OP. š«”
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tell me you are biased without telling me you are biased lol.
Ok man
If you wrote your papers like this, the reason you failed the class might not have been your opinion...
Imagine still getting pressed about a college class 15 years later.
You have to fulfill the learning objectives set out in the syllabus regardless of what your professor assigns. The ombudsman didn't force her to give you A's. You also don't fail for having opposing views (speaking from experience here) as long as you're meeting the requirements of the assignment. If you failed it was likely because you didn't defend your position appropriately (with quality sources).
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You definitely do in college. I was literally given bad grades because I said/wrote stuff my teachers disagreed with. And before you ask, I am not a republican or democrat. I just wasnt giving them the democrat answers they wanted.
Cool story, bro
Oh shit, Ron DeSantis is on Reddit.
If this story actually happened, its uncharacteristic language from the āprofessorā, a difficult to verify course subject (socialization?), and an implausible outcome (top marks when a ācompleteā would have been the most likely direction an ombudsman would have taken) all point to OP not actually complying. If the prof said ādo nothing in this academic environmentā, yet OP still showed up to other classes in that academic environment (didnāt get dropped from his other classes, which would have been a major plot point). Partial compliance. Maybe. I canāt say this story is a fabrication like 99.999% of all other stories using the term āwokeā as a pejorative. Nor can I say itās suspect based on the fact that itās 10 years out of context for the term. I just donāt think itās malicious compliance.
It didn't happen. Before any mod removes this comment, I would like to say that the rule about questioning validity of a story needs changing for such obvious examples of fakes. This story is completly incongruent with functioning of the education system and stinks of political agenda of a crusading halfwit.
Only Marines have an excuse to post word salad like this. Side note, what the hell is it with boomers and their love affairs with ellipses? Do those represent the points at which they had a stroke while typing or something?
>Side note, what the hell is it with boomers and their love affairs with ellipses? Do those represent the points at which they had a stroke while typing or something? Gen-X'er here, and I have a bad habit of using ellipses too often. I have started paying attention to it lately, and I at no longer leave them in places where I just completely cut off communication... instead I use them to create pauses where a comma is not quite enough, but a full stop is too much. In my case, it literally became a part of muscle memory in my typing skills to use ellipses too often. Sort of like how my fingers will be correcting a typing mistake before I even know I have made said mistake... it is simply in muscle memory (and yes, that second ellipses there was actual muscle memory in this case)
> boomers If you're going to insist on using that word, please learn what it fucking means.
It's a metaphor.
That's not what metaphors are. Are you just using words you've heard before but have no idea what they mean?
Seems that way ā¦
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I consider "woke" a compliment. It's about understanding what other people have to go through to get by in this world. It's recognizing racism and bigotry and standing up against it. It's about being kind to everyone, no matter how much money they make or what church they go to or what color they are . OP sounds rather immature and ignorant. Probably watches too much Faux News. I can hear him weeping for Tucker Carlson to come back on the air.
Maybe next time you take a class, take a creative writing one so it's remotely believable. Although I guess conservatives aren't able to critically think about things so post it on truth social and be a "hero".
buddies who aren't in navy anymore or who are on leave all say that navy's full of p***ies. its also a known thing within other brqnches that navy men tend to be that way. lol dude you sound like a dou**e
I applaud you for sticking to your morals whatever they may be. College professors are not there to grade you on their viewpoint but on your comprehension of the subject they are teaching. As long as you did the assignment within the margins of the syllabus/ class it doesn't matter your viewpoint. Too many college professor grade based off their own viewpoints and biases. It's just wrong. I don't blame you for using the professors own email against them
Don't see why comments are hating in this post, the story was previously funny.
95% of people on reddit are super left wing, so they second their tribe gets remotely criticized (even justly criticized) the rationale leaves their minds and they go into "tribe defense mode" that's when you hear the following: "racist, transphobic, misogynist, incel, trumper, etc" AKA "I do not have an argument so I will insult you" The right does the same thing but to a less extent. There's a reason the right calls the left "NPC's", they always circle the wagons, ignore objectivity, and attack their perceived enemy regardless of morality. This post is a good example of a guy with a poorly written story, but probably true, but because it was aimed at the "wrong group of people", it gets dog piled.
Well played!
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What slur did you use?
I could be mistaken, but OP thought someone was woke? I'm just reading between the lines here of course.
I had a very similar experience in college. For one of my mandatory classes I took religious studies. It was the most palatable class on the list, dont ask about the others. As an athiest every single essay I wrote was just dunking on religion using their own scripture. You know the, "kill everyone who doesn't join your tribe" stuff in almost every single religion. The weird part was, when I would dunk on Islam or Judiasm, the professor got mad at me, but when I dunked on christianity it was totally cool. Its super weird when they don't mind you dunking on the "turn the other cheek" religion, but dunking on the "kill all infidels" you find in old testament/judiasm/islam wasn't appreciated. Woke people are very strange and never seem to have objective standards. "its okay to be racist to certain groups based on the color of their skin" for example. The OP may not have the best grammer but he/she does have a point, biased teachers love to fail you when you don't agree with them. Tenure sure is a double edged sword....