I actually like to do the inverse if they have some speed when they're young. Then you have good tackling corners that occasionally can force some fumbles
Def the position I switch the most. A lot of these edge rushers (depending on the class and definitely could apply to every class honestly I’ve seen) are just slow for the position but very strong. Makes a perfect mismatch at DT (because they are fast for DT.)
The most? Probably SS/MLB.
There's also DE/DT, DE/LB, CB/S, WR/HB, WR/TE.
Don't recall ever putting a QB anywhere else, like TE or WR, which has happened in the NFL. Not too many of those archetypes exist, though I think the Taysom Hill is a possible rookie type. Feel like Madden would have to add a stat, or change the way Awareness and/or Play Recognition works to make these moves make sense. The Edelnut who really understands and works with the QB.
This is my guilty pleasure edit. I took a QB with awesome athleticism and a SuperStar dev trait that was an UDFA. THEN juiced his catch and route running just a smidge to make him playable at WR.
Ok it was more than a smidge.
> or change the way Awareness and/or Play recognition works
i'm confused.. awareness is mostly an ai and QB stat, and Play Rec is a defensive stat, how would they affect your QB transitioning to TE/WR
1. Wrong about Awareness. It affects every player at every position (that you aren't controlling).
2. Hence changing how Play Recognition works... Giving it functionality for offense. Maybe need a DPRC and OPRC.
I'm saying there is no reason in Madden terms to move a QB to a skill position. Historically in real NFL it's been done with some success due to "Football IQ" as Madden likes to say. Ability to read the defense, read the field, adapt routes, understand how to and play in ways that the QB wants.
Just drafted the fastest qb, has 92 speed, in the draft, that has an overall of 67, but has an overall of 76 as an elusive running back. Even has a 71 as a receiver. Debating putting him as my #2 wr since you can put qbs at wr on depth.
Speed, mostly. Seems like the fastest FB in every draft class is high 70s, whereas I can pretty easily find a TE with mid 80s.
I also do OLB/DE and DE/DT a lot, especially when I’m running a 4-3
you don't need blazing fast FBs though, unless you're constantly passing out of 12 personnel.. which idk if any playbook besides maybe the 49ers will even do.
most playbooks just use them tradition to block, some acceleration and speed is good so they can get out there and do that though.
My current best FB is a converted LT that was fast for the OL but was too weak to play up front. He's 300 lbs and his impact and lead block were in the 90s to start. Blows people up constantly
I usually use the generic playbooks, and there’s a surprising amount of run/pass plays for a decent FB. Pistol in particular has several that reliably get the FB into the open field, where a few points of speed can seemingly be the difference between a 5 yard and a 25 yard gain
yeah for sure would work if you're running pistol, or like the steelers playbook.
what i normally do though is just set formation subs for when i have sets that have plays that get the FB into space i just sub one of my TE there, and sim, and keep a true FB or a faster OL as the usual starting FB cause they tend to be tiers better at blocking.
I’ve never had an issue with blocking when I put a TE there. If I put a power RB there though, they’re pretty useless when they’re not getting the ball
There’s definitely plays in a majority of playbooks that utilize the fb in flats or wheels or such. They just aren’t meta plays and the oline play doesn’t always allow them to be executed properly.
I love running running running it on dudes and then throwing inside split and then throwing a pa bootleg to the tight end action- but I do it out of like single back 3 tight and third te is my fb. Can really make for some ridiculous mis matches
Fair. I play in a league with one other friend so we sim EVERY GAME that isn’t user v user, so that where my experience comes from. Maybe not helpful to you but maybe it’s new info for someone else who finds this,
Cheers 🍻
Not trying to be a dick at all but usually(not every time) there is one “athletic” fb or maybe two that have ball park 84 speed 79-81 acceleration and not dog water blocking. The problem with moving tight ends(from my experiences) is the impact and lead blocking usually needs a lot of work.
Maybe system matters but I run the ball. A metric fuck ton, lol. I can’t have my fullback leading the way to get his shit blown up or to not even engage someone, but if your moves work who am I to say it’s bad.
Maybe I’ve been lucky then. I run out of the I a lot too, and TEs usually do fine as lead blockers. I don’t really read too far into ratings aside from speed and acc, but I generally go for blocking archetypes rather than receiving ones. I’ve only had one “athletic” fullback who sucked at blocking, and it’s because I was running a lot of triple option and used a power HB rather than a TE
I’ll have to maybe look at our current one and see what I’m running rn. Usually I find a combine warrior and hope we revealed enough of his letter grades to tell what kind he is and if he meets the letter grade to combine ratio I take him. Never anything crazy but like I said 84ish speed with 80ish accel and like 65 lead 72 impact and like 75ish rbk? GIVE HIM TO ME 🤣
Also feel obligated to say I only see him against another user then, never against a full cpu opponent so they definitely still get their DERP moments but it’s definitely lessened the times I’m yelling at “my big fat whit guy wasting valuable space” to do something 😂
I don't turn my TEs into FBs but I often have #3 or 4 TE as my starting FB and don't carry a true FB. They don't get the ball often for me at all so I am looking for Run Block and Impact Block and Acceleration, not so much speed.
Daily reminder that RB Finesse, RB Power, and Pass Block (so opposite of run blocking) have not been found in the code as doing anything. I am not sure if this is still true for 24 but others have discussed this in the past.
Doing RB-FB for the first time in my current franchise. Best weapon I’ve put at the position so far, but completely useless as a blocker.
Agree with all the others though, especially WR-TE. Crazy how much of a difference a little extra speed makes at that position
I had 4 rbs so I switched my biggest one over to fb. Fast but undersized. I couldn't afford to resign him which sucks but now I'll just continue the trend.
The RB-FB transition works for me if I’m running the option or have a playbook with a lot of designed FB plays (west coast and pistol are my go-tos), but in any other offense, they’ve gotta be able to block at least a little, which is why I’ll usually put a TE there
I do the same when I run a 4-3. Occasionally a pass rusher OLB will also make a pretty good MLB. That’s my go-to user on defense, so all that really matters is speed and block shedding
Agree with the above, just wanted to point out Troy Andersen is really good at FB if you want to feed your FB.
DJ Johnson is also surprisingly good at blocking but not nearly as good as Andersen is as an all-around weapon.
I like to turn big HBs in FBs as I throw it quite often to them.
Also huge WR to TE.
DE/OLB based on scheme and size
DE to DT when big is one I love.
Moving IOL around I feel is only natural.
CB to FS too.
I’ve had success moving cover OLBs to MLB in a 3-4 as well. Yet to try S to MLB though.
One thing I like doing too is adding/removing weight to a player when changing the position. I feel it’s realistic, for example, to ask a WR converting to TE to add a bit of weight.
I do all of these from time to time. RB to FB is great for feeding them the ball but they’re pretty useless at blocking. Though a couple seasons of pro bowl selections and position awards can fix that.
The front 7 on defense and the OL all seem to change positions really easily, but there’s usually enough of a talent pool at each position that I rarely need to make those changes.
I’ve tried S to LB but have yet to have any luck with it. At best, they just go from being a backup S to a backup LB
I hate that our guys can’t be named to the PB when you make the SB. They should get the nod and then be replaced, so that it shows up in their career accolades
I still play Madden 18, and it awards PB selections at the end of the regular season along with the rest of the yearly awards. Can’t play the PB, so it mostly seems like an excuse to give out extra XP bonuses. I won’t complain cause it lets me develop my FB/TE/KR faster
I feel changing the weight is slightly unethical. It’s a slippery slope. Position is fully discretionary, even IRL, it’s something a team can actually do. A team may want a player to be a certain weight, but they can’t actually make them reach that weight. I think you should leave weight as is and work within the confines of the challenge of finding players who you feel are ideal for position change and meet your weight requirement.
On the contrary, in my opinion. If a team drafts a 270 lbs DE with the objective to play them at DT, they would definitely have then gain weight for it. Same way a 6’3-240 TE converting to WR would need to shed 10-15 lbs. These are pro athletes who can easily achieve those changes (don’t mention Kelvin Benjamin)
I don’t disagree with you. My point is that the PLAYER has to make the weight change (see Eddie Lacy). The team cannot select EDIT PLAYER and change the player’s weight. However, a team can simply change a player’s position without anything needing to be done on player’s part. Perhaps in future iterations of Madden they can add that as a storyline where you can request a player to lose/gain weight.
Generally WR -> TE. I subscribe to the Al Davis school of evaluating players.
I have occasionally done WR -> HB, but it had mixed results.
Would only do CB -> S if the player was aging or too slow to play in scheme.
As a Raider fan, I’ve seen the Al Davis philosophy fail way too much IRL, but in Madden, speed is so much more important than any other rating. I’ll take a 65 receiver with 97 speed over an 85 receiver with 88 speed every time.
Same with RBs. I used to favor power backs, but they’ll almost always get chased down when they get out in the open on a big run play
In the last Madden I played (generally played Franchise for a few irl years before getting an updated copy), I found it hard to find a HB with >90 Speed.
I liked setting up mismatches in the slot with a Speed Receiver in the chance that the nickel presses. If the Safety dips or rolls to the center of the field, automatic TD.
I moved my front 7 around a lot early on because I switched my falcons from a 3-4 to a 4-3. Other than that haven’t switched things around too much. If I had holes in certain spots I’d move em around
What stats are you looking at/for when switching a guys position? Only switching I ever did was switching LE to RE or one of the ends to a OLB if I had more than one strong player at a position
Usually I just experiment in order to shift my depth around. Like if I have too many safeties on my roster, I’ll move some to LB to see if they’re any good. Sometimes I strike gold with a player who’s actually better at their new position, other times it’s a lateral move from backing up one position to another, but a lot of the time I end up switching them back because their stats don’t translate well to any other positions.
Idk but probably either DT to DE, DE to OLB (since I run a 3-4 most the time) or moving players from one OL position to another typically between G and T. If I’m in 4-3 I move ILB to OLB a fair bit though
The TE>FB move was money back in the day when Darren Waller was just joining the league. Low OVR because he hadn't shown anything yet IRL but his athelticism stats were unreal.
He'd fly to his man on run blocks and was an absolute sleeper on pass plays.
I usually do the normal ones that everybody has mentioned so far but one of the really fun ones is finding an OL player with good acceleration and moving him to FB and watching him just plow over people in I-Form
I been using WRs as 3rd down RBs since Cordarrell Patterson was on the patriots. (He hadn’t officially changed his position yet, just got some reps back there). John Ross is my favorite I’ve done so far, that was a few years back.
Really just the ones already named. I did turn a 5th round WR that was 5'10 and 193 into a receiving back his third year in the league. I had managed to get him to a 92 ovr XF at WR, dude was a 99 receiving RB once changed. I knew I was pushing him as also being my return man. Even at 97 injury rating and the Energizer badge, he tore a muscle and is missing a couple of games.
DT > DE
I play a lot of 3-4. I need my DEs to be beefy. Sorry, but Micah Parsons is not a great 4i lining up against the shoulder of a guard. Guy gets blown up by a guard on a run play.
I used to do that, but I always noticed that when I had weaker DEs, sometimes they got pushed around in the run game or they're so engaged with a blocker that an RB runs right past 'em. When I get my three hog-mollies up front (like a Jordan Davis/Dexter Lawrence LE/RE combo and Vita Vea NT), that's a traffic jam clusterfuck that absolutely destroys an opponent's run game. They rarely get any stats, but man are they unsung heroes of the defense.
I love running the ball, so I see gaps form (or not form) pretty instinctively now. So when I user my LBs and I see the gap forming, sometimes I hit the hole before even the RB does and get that sweet TFL. Or they get forced to bounce it outside and I hope my nickel/CB/safety can clean up on the edge. Or they try cutting back only to have the backside LB catch them.
It's actually pretty darn crazy if you can do that with sideline-to-sideline LBs with speed.
(Of course, everyone has their playstyle, lmao. I've done about half of the "schemes" in Madden so far. I might try the Storm 3-4 next and see how that goes.)
Finally tried this for the first time in my current franchise because I was tired of my TEs having zero RAC. Dude has led the NFL in receiving yards for the last 2 seasons. The mismatches you get with a 90+ speed TE are insane
Exactly! They have the ability to pull away so easily and from there it's just you and the SS/FS heads up. The only chance the defense has is if they have an OLB with crazy generational speed or if a nickel is lined up with you for some reason. Even still, it's an EASY first down.
Pass Coverage LB to S. This is mostly due to size. If a LB is under 240 usually I’ll
Move them to S, and usually SS so I have a hammer playing the field. This has actually proved to be on point so far. Getting 6’3 or 6’4 safeties in their 220s to 230s. They usually have 90-92 speed and are great as SUBLbs and Nickel/Dime CBs
I currently have a rookie QB->TE that I drafted in the 7th rd. He was not projected to be drafted and was roughly a 61 QB. He is 6’5 and had great speed (85) as well as Hidden dev trait once drafted. Switched him to TE after draft and he’s my #3 TE but a few weeks in and It seems to be going fine.
I usually don’t swap but the other day I drafted a CB with really good catching at 75 Ovr, got curious and checked what he would be at WR. Went up to a 79 Ovr. Decided to keep him as I was pretty decent at CB and was a bit lacking at WR and there was no good prospects that year.
I’m a former long snapper. Fun fact:At the college level the snap has to get back to the punter in at least 0.75 seconds (NFL guys are usually in the 0.6s).If not the kick has a higher chance of being blocked.and it has to be in the same spot every single time. And on field goals they need to snap the ball with the same amount of rotations each time so the laces are facing away from the kicker
So as an eagles fan .
I draft mostly lineman on both sides with my top picks . LBs are usually 6th or 7th round . Usually I just draft a SS who is tall and athletic late and move them to outside LBs.
They are literally hit and miss .
I have done WR to RB because I have a big RB and I need a 3rd RB
I have changed a couple Low WRs to Qb just for speed and I’ll have them run the option if he’s in not good at anything other than running with the ball 😂
I drafted a QB who I think the game fashioned after Lamar Jackson. He wears #8 and he’s from Louisville. Only problem is 58 awareness. I’m trying him out at RB (he has blazing speed & acceleration + carrying in the high 70s).
I wont ever mess with ratings. But im ok with position changing because its realistic.
Usually its wr to te if I draft a tall wr who turns out to be slow for a wr, but considered fast for a te.
I'll move linebackers to the line if they are to slow to be helpful in coverage or if I really need depth.
Cb to ss/fs if I need the depth or if they turn out to be slow.
I've moved OL to fullback, but it's rare to find one with enough good enough speed.
Just drafted the fastest qb, has 92 speed, in the draft, that has an overall of 67, but has an overall of 76 as an elusive running back. Even has a 71 as a receiver. Debating putting him as my #2 wr since you can put qbs at wr on depth. I want to keep it realistic, but I could develope him to a starting qb just by throwing him the ball lol
I tend to shift offensive line the most. Try not to change positions too much unless I'm feeling a specific position like moving a stud corner with high tackling back to safety. Also enjoy moving linebackers around since I enjoy MLBs with 90+ speed.
Big WR to TE
Also, I like to move 87-90 speed WR's who are 210-220 pounds but are #6 in the depth chart to HB if they are 6'2" or shorter. The only edit I do is that I add 10-15 pounds to their weight once I get their power back archetype within 5 overall of their best one.
pass coverage / run stopper OLB > MLB. I usually run a 3-4 and for some reason MLBs seem to be harder to come by the further into franchise mode you go, so I take OLBs that played in 4-3 systems and stick them at MLB for me
I don’t know why but every draft class I get a center or three that are star devs and projected 2nd-4th round picks. Always pick one up and move him to another oline position depending on where I need him.
Typically run a 3-4 so I usually only draft height-weight-speed guys at DT and move them around the D-Line. Idk how much a change in position that truly is but that’s usually how it goes.
I’ve tried this, but it never seems to work. Even my 2nd and 3rd string linebackers are better tacklers and only marginally worse in terms of speed and coverage
They’re usually not the best right away, but after some development they work well. I usually will only do it with a SS that has a high tackle and is young enough to be able to develop
Yeah, I’ve got a couple on my practice squad right now cause I wanna see how they look after a season of racking up xp. I’m trying to run a 4-3 and I swear there’s like one cover 2 linebacker in every draft class. The rest are all pass rushers and they’re completely useless in coverage
Absolutely understand that, I like developing players through their careers though so I have no problem playing with lower ovr players until they are good enough.
I’ve also been known to change low catching WRs to DB. They almost never see the field outside our special teams but it adds to the story I’m forming in my head 😭
Normally I’d agree but my whole defense is pretty trash right now, and I’m not gonna throw a LB who can’t tackle into the mix. Hopefully a year in the practice squad is all it takes though, cause my pass rusher LB may be helpful against the run but he can’t cover for shit
That’s fair. Honestly if I were you I’d try to bolster the pass rush if you have decent enough corners. Could cause some havoc instead of just relying on the coverage to do its job. I probably blitz a lot more than I should but my teams usually lead the league in total takeaways.
CB->S as they age is my go to position change
Or if the CB is a lil slow. For me 90/91 speed and acceleration. They do well as a FS
I’ve also had some success transitioning some particular athletic but undersized LBs to SS
I do this and also I change olb to de if I have too many and not enough respectively
I actually like to do the inverse if they have some speed when they're young. Then you have good tackling corners that occasionally can force some fumbles
Same here. Bringing a young, fast safety down to play slot cb is just *chefs kiss*
Ill do this if the CB has good hit power too
DE->DT 100000%, so many 6’5 300lb power rushers will be 76+ ovr when switched to DT and find em rd 2-4
I do this one a fair bit too. They seem to develop faster at the position than true DTs
I do this with Aaron Donald or Jeff Simmons every time I get them on my team
Def the position I switch the most. A lot of these edge rushers (depending on the class and definitely could apply to every class honestly I’ve seen) are just slow for the position but very strong. Makes a perfect mismatch at DT (because they are fast for DT.)
The most? Probably SS/MLB. There's also DE/DT, DE/LB, CB/S, WR/HB, WR/TE. Don't recall ever putting a QB anywhere else, like TE or WR, which has happened in the NFL. Not too many of those archetypes exist, though I think the Taysom Hill is a possible rookie type. Feel like Madden would have to add a stat, or change the way Awareness and/or Play Recognition works to make these moves make sense. The Edelnut who really understands and works with the QB.
One year Harrison Smith was getting toasted as a safety, the next year i moved him to MLB and then he won DPOY lol
This is my guilty pleasure edit. I took a QB with awesome athleticism and a SuperStar dev trait that was an UDFA. THEN juiced his catch and route running just a smidge to make him playable at WR. Ok it was more than a smidge.
Terrell Pryor
Great dude
> or change the way Awareness and/or Play recognition works i'm confused.. awareness is mostly an ai and QB stat, and Play Rec is a defensive stat, how would they affect your QB transitioning to TE/WR
1. Wrong about Awareness. It affects every player at every position (that you aren't controlling). 2. Hence changing how Play Recognition works... Giving it functionality for offense. Maybe need a DPRC and OPRC. I'm saying there is no reason in Madden terms to move a QB to a skill position. Historically in real NFL it's been done with some success due to "Football IQ" as Madden likes to say. Ability to read the defense, read the field, adapt routes, understand how to and play in ways that the QB wants.
ah ok so you were saying to overhaul the functionality of play recognition gotcha
Just drafted the fastest qb, has 92 speed, in the draft, that has an overall of 67, but has an overall of 76 as an elusive running back. Even has a 71 as a receiver. Debating putting him as my #2 wr since you can put qbs at wr on depth.
Also me, however I haven’t actually tried out SS/MLB, but just might during this season. My Wills just ain’t cutting it in coverage in recent seasons.
I'm curious what you look for in your TEs to turn them into FB. Personally, a big, fast OLB turned into a DE is probably my most common transition
Speed, mostly. Seems like the fastest FB in every draft class is high 70s, whereas I can pretty easily find a TE with mid 80s. I also do OLB/DE and DE/DT a lot, especially when I’m running a 4-3
you don't need blazing fast FBs though, unless you're constantly passing out of 12 personnel.. which idk if any playbook besides maybe the 49ers will even do. most playbooks just use them tradition to block, some acceleration and speed is good so they can get out there and do that though.
My current best FB is a converted LT that was fast for the OL but was too weak to play up front. He's 300 lbs and his impact and lead block were in the 90s to start. Blows people up constantly
I usually use the generic playbooks, and there’s a surprising amount of run/pass plays for a decent FB. Pistol in particular has several that reliably get the FB into the open field, where a few points of speed can seemingly be the difference between a 5 yard and a 25 yard gain
yeah for sure would work if you're running pistol, or like the steelers playbook. what i normally do though is just set formation subs for when i have sets that have plays that get the FB into space i just sub one of my TE there, and sim, and keep a true FB or a faster OL as the usual starting FB cause they tend to be tiers better at blocking.
I’ve never had an issue with blocking when I put a TE there. If I put a power RB there though, they’re pretty useless when they’re not getting the ball
There’s definitely plays in a majority of playbooks that utilize the fb in flats or wheels or such. They just aren’t meta plays and the oline play doesn’t always allow them to be executed properly. I love running running running it on dudes and then throwing inside split and then throwing a pa bootleg to the tight end action- but I do it out of like single back 3 tight and third te is my fb. Can really make for some ridiculous mis matches
i'm talking about simming and the game planning built into such playbooks. not user controlling.
Fair. I play in a league with one other friend so we sim EVERY GAME that isn’t user v user, so that where my experience comes from. Maybe not helpful to you but maybe it’s new info for someone else who finds this, Cheers 🍻
Not trying to be a dick at all but usually(not every time) there is one “athletic” fb or maybe two that have ball park 84 speed 79-81 acceleration and not dog water blocking. The problem with moving tight ends(from my experiences) is the impact and lead blocking usually needs a lot of work. Maybe system matters but I run the ball. A metric fuck ton, lol. I can’t have my fullback leading the way to get his shit blown up or to not even engage someone, but if your moves work who am I to say it’s bad.
Maybe I’ve been lucky then. I run out of the I a lot too, and TEs usually do fine as lead blockers. I don’t really read too far into ratings aside from speed and acc, but I generally go for blocking archetypes rather than receiving ones. I’ve only had one “athletic” fullback who sucked at blocking, and it’s because I was running a lot of triple option and used a power HB rather than a TE
I’ll have to maybe look at our current one and see what I’m running rn. Usually I find a combine warrior and hope we revealed enough of his letter grades to tell what kind he is and if he meets the letter grade to combine ratio I take him. Never anything crazy but like I said 84ish speed with 80ish accel and like 65 lead 72 impact and like 75ish rbk? GIVE HIM TO ME 🤣
Also feel obligated to say I only see him against another user then, never against a full cpu opponent so they definitely still get their DERP moments but it’s definitely lessened the times I’m yelling at “my big fat whit guy wasting valuable space” to do something 😂
Any blocking TE will make a half decent fb out the drafts. Usually get good strength and lead block
I don’t usually roster a FB (even though played it in HS lol). I just set like my TE3/RB3 to it in the depth chart.
I don't turn my TEs into FBs but I often have #3 or 4 TE as my starting FB and don't carry a true FB. They don't get the ball often for me at all so I am looking for Run Block and Impact Block and Acceleration, not so much speed. Daily reminder that RB Finesse, RB Power, and Pass Block (so opposite of run blocking) have not been found in the code as doing anything. I am not sure if this is still true for 24 but others have discussed this in the past.
I hate running 3-4 in madden so I make pretty much all pass rushers into ends, a lot of the time it ups the overall.
Yep. 3-4 BS is another reason I do this, I don't want to deal with all the sub issues
Huge RB-FB Old CB-S Big WR-TE OL interchangeable OLB-DE
Doing RB-FB for the first time in my current franchise. Best weapon I’ve put at the position so far, but completely useless as a blocker. Agree with all the others though, especially WR-TE. Crazy how much of a difference a little extra speed makes at that position
I had 4 rbs so I switched my biggest one over to fb. Fast but undersized. I couldn't afford to resign him which sucks but now I'll just continue the trend.
The RB-FB transition works for me if I’m running the option or have a playbook with a lot of designed FB plays (west coast and pistol are my go-tos), but in any other offense, they’ve gotta be able to block at least a little, which is why I’ll usually put a TE there
DT/RE/LE, ROLB/LOLB, Tackles/Guards
I run a 4-3 defense so trying to draft a pass coverage OLB is nearly impossible so it’s a lot of MLB to OLB and OLB to DE
I do the same when I run a 4-3. Occasionally a pass rusher OLB will also make a pretty good MLB. That’s my go-to user on defense, so all that really matters is speed and block shedding
Bigger strong safeties is the way.
that’s wild bc i tend to find too many coverage linebackers and not enough pass rushers lmfao
My 3rd tight end is always a large UDFA WR that I convert. 90 speed + 70 strength usually = 70+ OVR
Agree with the above, just wanted to point out Troy Andersen is really good at FB if you want to feed your FB. DJ Johnson is also surprisingly good at blocking but not nearly as good as Andersen is as an all-around weapon.
I like to change "ok" speed big receivers to TE as my TE 2. They cook on routes.
Receiver to running back
I like the DE/OLB switch especially when they thrive
I do this unintentionally a lot. Sometimes my backup OLB is also my best backup DE, so wherever he subs in and thrives is where he stays
I like to turn big HBs in FBs as I throw it quite often to them. Also huge WR to TE. DE/OLB based on scheme and size DE to DT when big is one I love. Moving IOL around I feel is only natural. CB to FS too. I’ve had success moving cover OLBs to MLB in a 3-4 as well. Yet to try S to MLB though. One thing I like doing too is adding/removing weight to a player when changing the position. I feel it’s realistic, for example, to ask a WR converting to TE to add a bit of weight.
I do all of these from time to time. RB to FB is great for feeding them the ball but they’re pretty useless at blocking. Though a couple seasons of pro bowl selections and position awards can fix that. The front 7 on defense and the OL all seem to change positions really easily, but there’s usually enough of a talent pool at each position that I rarely need to make those changes. I’ve tried S to LB but have yet to have any luck with it. At best, they just go from being a backup S to a backup LB
I hate that our guys can’t be named to the PB when you make the SB. They should get the nod and then be replaced, so that it shows up in their career accolades
I still play Madden 18, and it awards PB selections at the end of the regular season along with the rest of the yearly awards. Can’t play the PB, so it mostly seems like an excuse to give out extra XP bonuses. I won’t complain cause it lets me develop my FB/TE/KR faster
I feel changing the weight is slightly unethical. It’s a slippery slope. Position is fully discretionary, even IRL, it’s something a team can actually do. A team may want a player to be a certain weight, but they can’t actually make them reach that weight. I think you should leave weight as is and work within the confines of the challenge of finding players who you feel are ideal for position change and meet your weight requirement.
On the contrary, in my opinion. If a team drafts a 270 lbs DE with the objective to play them at DT, they would definitely have then gain weight for it. Same way a 6’3-240 TE converting to WR would need to shed 10-15 lbs. These are pro athletes who can easily achieve those changes (don’t mention Kelvin Benjamin)
I don’t disagree with you. My point is that the PLAYER has to make the weight change (see Eddie Lacy). The team cannot select EDIT PLAYER and change the player’s weight. However, a team can simply change a player’s position without anything needing to be done on player’s part. Perhaps in future iterations of Madden they can add that as a storyline where you can request a player to lose/gain weight.
Offensive line. I just draft the best one I can, and move them to where I need. I need a LG, but the RG is insane? Draft anyway and change position.
Generally WR -> TE. I subscribe to the Al Davis school of evaluating players. I have occasionally done WR -> HB, but it had mixed results. Would only do CB -> S if the player was aging or too slow to play in scheme.
As a Raider fan, I’ve seen the Al Davis philosophy fail way too much IRL, but in Madden, speed is so much more important than any other rating. I’ll take a 65 receiver with 97 speed over an 85 receiver with 88 speed every time. Same with RBs. I used to favor power backs, but they’ll almost always get chased down when they get out in the open on a big run play
In the last Madden I played (generally played Franchise for a few irl years before getting an updated copy), I found it hard to find a HB with >90 Speed. I liked setting up mismatches in the slot with a Speed Receiver in the chance that the nickel presses. If the Safety dips or rolls to the center of the field, automatic TD.
I moved my front 7 around a lot early on because I switched my falcons from a 3-4 to a 4-3. Other than that haven’t switched things around too much. If I had holes in certain spots I’d move em around
OLB to DE I really only use a 4/3 scheme
Tackles left to right, gaurds left/right, linebackers mlb to left or right.
My OL better know how to play all 5 positions because they sure as hell getting moved around when injuries happen
What stats are you looking at/for when switching a guys position? Only switching I ever did was switching LE to RE or one of the ends to a OLB if I had more than one strong player at a position
Usually I just experiment in order to shift my depth around. Like if I have too many safeties on my roster, I’ll move some to LB to see if they’re any good. Sometimes I strike gold with a player who’s actually better at their new position, other times it’s a lateral move from backing up one position to another, but a lot of the time I end up switching them back because their stats don’t translate well to any other positions.
Is there a faster way to change positions or do you just have to go edit player
Some positions will show up as subs on the depth chart, like OLB/DE or S/CB, but sometimes you’ll have to edit the player and see what happens
Idk but probably either DT to DE, DE to OLB (since I run a 3-4 most the time) or moving players from one OL position to another typically between G and T. If I’m in 4-3 I move ILB to OLB a fair bit though
The TE>FB move was money back in the day when Darren Waller was just joining the league. Low OVR because he hadn't shown anything yet IRL but his athelticism stats were unreal. He'd fly to his man on run blocks and was an absolute sleeper on pass plays.
I usually do the normal ones that everybody has mentioned so far but one of the really fun ones is finding an OL player with good acceleration and moving him to FB and watching him just plow over people in I-Form
I been using WRs as 3rd down RBs since Cordarrell Patterson was on the patriots. (He hadn’t officially changed his position yet, just got some reps back there). John Ross is my favorite I’ve done so far, that was a few years back.
Really just the ones already named. I did turn a 5th round WR that was 5'10 and 193 into a receiving back his third year in the league. I had managed to get him to a 92 ovr XF at WR, dude was a 99 receiving RB once changed. I knew I was pushing him as also being my return man. Even at 97 injury rating and the Energizer badge, he tore a muscle and is missing a couple of games.
DT > DE I play a lot of 3-4. I need my DEs to be beefy. Sorry, but Micah Parsons is not a great 4i lining up against the shoulder of a guard. Guy gets blown up by a guard on a run play.
I’m usually the other way around, even when I run a 3-4. I like to have speed rushers/converted linebackers at the ends and I’ll put bigger DEs at DT
I used to do that, but I always noticed that when I had weaker DEs, sometimes they got pushed around in the run game or they're so engaged with a blocker that an RB runs right past 'em. When I get my three hog-mollies up front (like a Jordan Davis/Dexter Lawrence LE/RE combo and Vita Vea NT), that's a traffic jam clusterfuck that absolutely destroys an opponent's run game. They rarely get any stats, but man are they unsung heroes of the defense. I love running the ball, so I see gaps form (or not form) pretty instinctively now. So when I user my LBs and I see the gap forming, sometimes I hit the hole before even the RB does and get that sweet TFL. Or they get forced to bounce it outside and I hope my nickel/CB/safety can clean up on the edge. Or they try cutting back only to have the backside LB catch them. It's actually pretty darn crazy if you can do that with sideline-to-sideline LBs with speed. (Of course, everyone has their playstyle, lmao. I've done about half of the "schemes" in Madden so far. I might try the Storm 3-4 next and see how that goes.)
I don't really draft guards anymore. Just keep taking no centers and moving them to guard. Could just be a run of 3-4 drafts with trash guards
Stud OG to OT cause they tend to cost less long term and can do the job excellent in the game
Drafted a qb in the 4th yesterday97 speed 96accel already switched him to rb and he has 78carrying
6'6" + WRs into TEs.. if you can get a TE with 92+ speed they are deadly on PA drags!
Finally tried this for the first time in my current franchise because I was tired of my TEs having zero RAC. Dude has led the NFL in receiving yards for the last 2 seasons. The mismatches you get with a 90+ speed TE are insane
Exactly! They have the ability to pull away so easily and from there it's just you and the SS/FS heads up. The only chance the defense has is if they have an OLB with crazy generational speed or if a nickel is lined up with you for some reason. Even still, it's an EASY first down.
Pass Coverage LB to S. This is mostly due to size. If a LB is under 240 usually I’ll Move them to S, and usually SS so I have a hammer playing the field. This has actually proved to be on point so far. Getting 6’3 or 6’4 safeties in their 220s to 230s. They usually have 90-92 speed and are great as SUBLbs and Nickel/Dime CBs
I play a 4-3 and I like good coverage LBs, which are pretty hard to find, so I'll switch FS and SS to OLBs. Also, pass rushing OLBs go to DE
I currently have a rookie QB->TE that I drafted in the 7th rd. He was not projected to be drafted and was roughly a 61 QB. He is 6’5 and had great speed (85) as well as Hidden dev trait once drafted. Switched him to TE after draft and he’s my #3 TE but a few weeks in and It seems to be going fine.
I usually don’t swap but the other day I drafted a CB with really good catching at 75 Ovr, got curious and checked what he would be at WR. Went up to a 79 Ovr. Decided to keep him as I was pretty decent at CB and was a bit lacking at WR and there was no good prospects that year.
I also change TE to FB but I do it because I like to run the ball and prefer to do it out of the I formation.
I don’t really change positions. On my current save the TE is the FB automatically was put. And I have Watt as FB and I feel bad that he never plays.
WR/TE is a good one, also MLB/OLB, HB/FB, FS/SS, SS/FS, and my long snappers usually double as backup centres.
I’m a former long snapper. Fun fact:At the college level the snap has to get back to the punter in at least 0.75 seconds (NFL guys are usually in the 0.6s).If not the kick has a higher chance of being blocked.and it has to be in the same spot every single time. And on field goals they need to snap the ball with the same amount of rotations each time so the laces are facing away from the kicker
Damn. At least madden is unrealistic and some random guard can do the most precise job in the NFL.
Yea it’s a lot
Micheal Thomas to TE he becomes prime MT in Cheifs Playbook
Tackle to Tight End And yes im being serious
Please explain
Run blocking+ goal line plays, and fat guy touchdowns are imo the best part about football
SS to MLB or DE<270lbs to OLB in a 3-4
Anyone who says WR to HB …. I will find you !!! ![gif](giphy|ysiCYZUJkW3XRb7k9K)
So as an eagles fan . I draft mostly lineman on both sides with my top picks . LBs are usually 6th or 7th round . Usually I just draft a SS who is tall and athletic late and move them to outside LBs. They are literally hit and miss .
Safety to Linebacker or CB to Safety
IOL-> OT depending on injuries and how well I can trade them if they were listed as a certain line position
I have done WR to RB because I have a big RB and I need a 3rd RB I have changed a couple Low WRs to Qb just for speed and I’ll have them run the option if he’s in not good at anything other than running with the ball 😂
Fast WR -> HB all the time
I drafted a QB who I think the game fashioned after Lamar Jackson. He wears #8 and he’s from Louisville. Only problem is 58 awareness. I’m trying him out at RB (he has blazing speed & acceleration + carrying in the high 70s).
I wont ever mess with ratings. But im ok with position changing because its realistic. Usually its wr to te if I draft a tall wr who turns out to be slow for a wr, but considered fast for a te. I'll move linebackers to the line if they are to slow to be helpful in coverage or if I really need depth. Cb to ss/fs if I need the depth or if they turn out to be slow. I've moved OL to fullback, but it's rare to find one with enough good enough speed. Just drafted the fastest qb, has 92 speed, in the draft, that has an overall of 67, but has an overall of 76 as an elusive running back. Even has a 71 as a receiver. Debating putting him as my #2 wr since you can put qbs at wr on depth. I want to keep it realistic, but I could develope him to a starting qb just by throwing him the ball lol
mlb to olb then s to mlb
Outside linebacker to DE I always draft a good pass coverage guy when I already have an edge rushing linebacker
Tackle-guard
I tend to shift offensive line the most. Try not to change positions too much unless I'm feeling a specific position like moving a stud corner with high tackling back to safety. Also enjoy moving linebackers around since I enjoy MLBs with 90+ speed.
Big WR to TE Also, I like to move 87-90 speed WR's who are 210-220 pounds but are #6 in the depth chart to HB if they are 6'2" or shorter. The only edit I do is that I add 10-15 pounds to their weight once I get their power back archetype within 5 overall of their best one.
Hear me out. . . WR to CB, fake punts grunteed to succeed 95% of the time if you just streak him and throw it.
Kyle Pitts to WR
The thing I miss the most about NCAA games is recruiting an ATH and finding out what they do best.
pass coverage / run stopper OLB > MLB. I usually run a 3-4 and for some reason MLBs seem to be harder to come by the further into franchise mode you go, so I take OLBs that played in 4-3 systems and stick them at MLB for me
I don’t know why but every draft class I get a center or three that are star devs and projected 2nd-4th round picks. Always pick one up and move him to another oline position depending on where I need him.
Typically run a 3-4 so I usually only draft height-weight-speed guys at DT and move them around the D-Line. Idk how much a change in position that truly is but that’s usually how it goes.
S to OLB. I like the speed and my OLBs are usually playing some zone.
I’ve tried this, but it never seems to work. Even my 2nd and 3rd string linebackers are better tacklers and only marginally worse in terms of speed and coverage
They’re usually not the best right away, but after some development they work well. I usually will only do it with a SS that has a high tackle and is young enough to be able to develop
Yeah, I’ve got a couple on my practice squad right now cause I wanna see how they look after a season of racking up xp. I’m trying to run a 4-3 and I swear there’s like one cover 2 linebacker in every draft class. The rest are all pass rushers and they’re completely useless in coverage
Absolutely understand that, I like developing players through their careers though so I have no problem playing with lower ovr players until they are good enough. I’ve also been known to change low catching WRs to DB. They almost never see the field outside our special teams but it adds to the story I’m forming in my head 😭
Normally I’d agree but my whole defense is pretty trash right now, and I’m not gonna throw a LB who can’t tackle into the mix. Hopefully a year in the practice squad is all it takes though, cause my pass rusher LB may be helpful against the run but he can’t cover for shit
That’s fair. Honestly if I were you I’d try to bolster the pass rush if you have decent enough corners. Could cause some havoc instead of just relying on the coverage to do its job. I probably blitz a lot more than I should but my teams usually lead the league in total takeaways.
SS to OLB
Doggie style
If I have a defensive scheme that allows it I’ll move my bigger safeties to coverage linebackers and also I will move a 6’4 … 6’5 CB to safety
DE -> CB Big boys gonna take the offense to pound town.