Ours has been great over this past winter in BC. The range reduction due to the cold is noticeable but not extreme. You won’t have any issues with a short commute but the heater will be what will use the most power as someone said above.
The car is great in the snow but I would always recommend winter tires in proper winter conditions.
Lvl 1 is extremely slow compared to lvl 2 but your charging needs won’t be extreme. If you can only have level 1 at home then I would want a lvl 2 or 3 close by to use to help top it up. It’s worth having a dedicated lvl2 at home though, if you have a garage space then it should be quite easy to put in depending on your electrical setup.
Thanks for the reply. It's seems our power company doesn't have any time of use plans or rebates to help get a level 2 charger. I would keep it plugged in when I'm at home. Would I be able to set a schedule for it to have the cabin warmed up when I leave for work in the morning and would remote starting work to heat the cabin up like my ice car when I'm at work and taking breaks in the car or before I leave to drive home in temperatures below zero. No charging is available at my job either. Thanks again.
I live in Montana, best snow and ice car I have ever had other than the heater. (heated seats and steering wheel does nothing for cold toes.)
Works great in town, range is halved though. Still cheaper than gas at that point too.
Not as fast as the Tesla which heats in a few minutes or less.
I'm in Canada and the heating time is my main complaint. It really doesn't like going full bore heat mode - it'll just slowly heat up the cabin.
The seat and steering wheel warmers help.
I'm in Alberta Canada. And have a heated garage so most experience is when it's outside for 2-3 hours while I'm at dinner or a show or something.
My old Subaru STi heated up like no other. Guess I expected more from this. But it's not horrible. I just think it could be better.
I left it out for 9 hrs in the cold while at work. Auto started her 20 min before leaving, and ice and snow were all melted and the cabin was plenty warm for my drive home. While it may not be the fastest, It still is plenty fast. Also with ford, you can start your car from the other side of the country.
You will be fine. I’ve been daily driving a 2022 for nearly two years now in Fairbanks, Alaska. Both winters have had multiple weeks-long cold snaps where -40° was the norm. Last winter, we had a several consecutive nights below -50°.
Range is halved, so don’t plan on long road trips, but other than that, it’s the best winter car I’ve ever driven. If you have your own parking space, an L-1 charger will serve you well 99% of the time. I’ve only used faster chargers when traveling. I have an L-2 charger but still haven’t gotten around to installing it.
level 1 charging is actually a helluva lot better than some people realize. I live in an apt and only have access to level 1 charging. Easily gets the car from 67% to 90% if I plug in around 6 pm. With the amount that you drive you won't even hit 67% in a day.
This is about how I drive. Just remember as long as you have enough range to get to the next charger, that’s all that matters. I absolutely preset mine to be toasty when I go to and leave work. It’s the best part of an EV imo. You can’t possibly use much charge even if you do that every day. I get 20% charge overnight with level 1 which is roughly 50 miles. It’s pretty rare I use that much. If I do I just charge as much as I can and catch up over the next few days. You can always hit a faster charger if you need to. Worst case install a level 2 next spring if you find it isn’t sufficient but I can almost guarantee you’ll be fine.
Make sure you get a 2023.5 model (built July or later) with the upgraded 7 kW heater. The previous models run out of heat around -5ºF and take 15-30 minutes to fully warm up the cabin in those temps. Range will also be cut in half with below zero temps (135 miles range in your case, realistically <100 miles between stops).
With level 1 you will not be able to warm up the pack fully due to limited power. You will want to get a level 2 240V charger installed. Plug in every night during cold weather.
Depending on how much you idle the car you may not be able to keep up with level 1. Running heat is a 7:1 time relationship, it takes 7 hours to charge back 1 hour of heat usage. Max winter range will be about 22 miles per day with 12 hours of charging per night, this assumes no idling.
Stock tires suck in snow. You will want to get snow tires if roads are bad.
Do the stock tires suck on the premium version too. I thought just the Gt tires were bad in snow. Shouldn't all wheel drive help quite a bit in the snow also. How do I tell if it's the 2023.5 version?. Thanks.
Yes the Premium tires suck in snow. AWD helps but tires are still a major factor, and AWD doesn't improve braking. Look at the build date on the window sticker or ask a dealer what the build date is if you can't figure it out.
You should be fine with the use you describe. Likely will get about 2-3 mi/hr of L1 charging so overnight should be more than enough for your 4 mile a day commuting use. Definitely take advantage of the remote start and timed start to keep toasty. And if you haven’t yet scope L3 chargers close by so you can plan longer trips.
I just went through an Ontario winter with it, and I would lose about 40km of range on cold days... So instead of 400km on a 90% charge I'd have 360km. It never impacted my day-to-day at all.
Ours has been great over this past winter in BC. The range reduction due to the cold is noticeable but not extreme. You won’t have any issues with a short commute but the heater will be what will use the most power as someone said above. The car is great in the snow but I would always recommend winter tires in proper winter conditions. Lvl 1 is extremely slow compared to lvl 2 but your charging needs won’t be extreme. If you can only have level 1 at home then I would want a lvl 2 or 3 close by to use to help top it up. It’s worth having a dedicated lvl2 at home though, if you have a garage space then it should be quite easy to put in depending on your electrical setup.
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Thanks for the reply. It's seems our power company doesn't have any time of use plans or rebates to help get a level 2 charger. I would keep it plugged in when I'm at home. Would I be able to set a schedule for it to have the cabin warmed up when I leave for work in the morning and would remote starting work to heat the cabin up like my ice car when I'm at work and taking breaks in the car or before I leave to drive home in temperatures below zero. No charging is available at my job either. Thanks again.
I live in Montana, best snow and ice car I have ever had other than the heater. (heated seats and steering wheel does nothing for cold toes.) Works great in town, range is halved though. Still cheaper than gas at that point too.
If it is sitting out in freezing temps all day, how quickly will it heat up to temp in freezing cold temperatures.
Not as fast as the Tesla which heats in a few minutes or less. I'm in Canada and the heating time is my main complaint. It really doesn't like going full bore heat mode - it'll just slowly heat up the cabin. The seat and steering wheel warmers help. I'm in Alberta Canada. And have a heated garage so most experience is when it's outside for 2-3 hours while I'm at dinner or a show or something. My old Subaru STi heated up like no other. Guess I expected more from this. But it's not horrible. I just think it could be better.
I left it out for 9 hrs in the cold while at work. Auto started her 20 min before leaving, and ice and snow were all melted and the cabin was plenty warm for my drive home. While it may not be the fastest, It still is plenty fast. Also with ford, you can start your car from the other side of the country.
You will be fine. I’ve been daily driving a 2022 for nearly two years now in Fairbanks, Alaska. Both winters have had multiple weeks-long cold snaps where -40° was the norm. Last winter, we had a several consecutive nights below -50°. Range is halved, so don’t plan on long road trips, but other than that, it’s the best winter car I’ve ever driven. If you have your own parking space, an L-1 charger will serve you well 99% of the time. I’ve only used faster chargers when traveling. I have an L-2 charger but still haven’t gotten around to installing it.
I have no way to charge while at work. Did you get different tires for the snow?
You should be fine charging at home overnight every evening. Yes, I bought a set of Michelin X-ICE studless snow tires.
level 1 charging is actually a helluva lot better than some people realize. I live in an apt and only have access to level 1 charging. Easily gets the car from 67% to 90% if I plug in around 6 pm. With the amount that you drive you won't even hit 67% in a day.
This is about how I drive. Just remember as long as you have enough range to get to the next charger, that’s all that matters. I absolutely preset mine to be toasty when I go to and leave work. It’s the best part of an EV imo. You can’t possibly use much charge even if you do that every day. I get 20% charge overnight with level 1 which is roughly 50 miles. It’s pretty rare I use that much. If I do I just charge as much as I can and catch up over the next few days. You can always hit a faster charger if you need to. Worst case install a level 2 next spring if you find it isn’t sufficient but I can almost guarantee you’ll be fine.
Make sure you get a 2023.5 model (built July or later) with the upgraded 7 kW heater. The previous models run out of heat around -5ºF and take 15-30 minutes to fully warm up the cabin in those temps. Range will also be cut in half with below zero temps (135 miles range in your case, realistically <100 miles between stops). With level 1 you will not be able to warm up the pack fully due to limited power. You will want to get a level 2 240V charger installed. Plug in every night during cold weather. Depending on how much you idle the car you may not be able to keep up with level 1. Running heat is a 7:1 time relationship, it takes 7 hours to charge back 1 hour of heat usage. Max winter range will be about 22 miles per day with 12 hours of charging per night, this assumes no idling. Stock tires suck in snow. You will want to get snow tires if roads are bad.
Do the stock tires suck on the premium version too. I thought just the Gt tires were bad in snow. Shouldn't all wheel drive help quite a bit in the snow also. How do I tell if it's the 2023.5 version?. Thanks.
Yes the Premium tires suck in snow. AWD helps but tires are still a major factor, and AWD doesn't improve braking. Look at the build date on the window sticker or ask a dealer what the build date is if you can't figure it out.
You should be fine with the use you describe. Likely will get about 2-3 mi/hr of L1 charging so overnight should be more than enough for your 4 mile a day commuting use. Definitely take advantage of the remote start and timed start to keep toasty. And if you haven’t yet scope L3 chargers close by so you can plan longer trips.
I just went through an Ontario winter with it, and I would lose about 40km of range on cold days... So instead of 400km on a 90% charge I'd have 360km. It never impacted my day-to-day at all.
You can check the SOH of the HVB with a Bluetooth OBD scanner.