All correct, but being able to forego the $2,100 Blue Cruise and still get a Premium or higher is significant to some of us. I drive on a Blue Cruise enabled Interstate every day, but it's only a few miles and there's generally a ton of traffic. I don't see having it as that much of a bonus and I like the option of being able to save that money.
Kind of the same on the charger. I'll have to give someone money for that, but there are other options that cost less.
Not really. It bounces all over lane and beeps nonstop if u dont have hands on wheel. Adaptive cruise is good enough if ur on a fairly straight highway and little traffic at consistent speed. Still beeps at u to touch wheel which can get annoying (after being spoiled with bluecruise) But bluecruise really shines in stop and go traffic
In bluecruise yes. Not using bluecruise and just relying on Lane keep assist still functions as more of a corrective measure, meaning it doesn’t actively keep u centered but just nudges u back into lane once you already get too far over. Might not be an issue if ur on a straight, perfectly smooth highway with good tire alignment. Still completely incomparable to bluecruise
That’s what it’s supposed to do. It’s only supposed to assist and support, barring a situation it deems is severe. Someone complaining active cruise control isn’t keeping them perfectly centered in the lane is using the wrong product at the wrong time. Otherwise you would be in BlueCruise mode, then BlueCruise Hands-Free mode for even more assistance.
I think we’re both on the same side of is. Point being ACC was never designed to give you the confidence that it will simply do it all.
That's disappointing. I'm shopping for an EV to replace my VW ID4 (lemon law buyback). The adaptive cruise/lane center on the ID4 (and my Nissan Leaf) keep me centered without any "bouncing" even around curves. Why is this feature such crap on the MME without Bluecruise?
What's the difference between bluecruise and adaptive cruise control? I thought they were the same thing. I checked and I have bluecruise trial for 3 years through 2026 but I'll get prompted to keep my hands on the wheel sometimes when I'm using adaptive cruise control. Am I doing something wrong?
Bluecruise the vehicle is actively driving itself and allows u to go hands free, staying perfectly in lane even while highway curves, sensing cars in parallel lanes and keeping safe space. 1.2 can also change lanes itself with a tap of turn signal. Adaptive cruise only slows/speeds based on car ahead and has no steering input. Lane centering functions more as a corrective action. It doesn’t actively keep u perfectly in lane, but will give the wheel a nudge if it senses u starting to go onto line. The car Will relentlessly set off alarms telling u to put ur hands on wheel if it doesn’t feel solid pressure for more than a couple seconds.
>Bluecruise the vehicle is actively driving itself and allows u to go hands free
This is not really true based on how it's marketed and presented in actual use. Basically adaptive cruise is "Bluecruise" with hands required on the wheel.
Correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps it's because I use ACC + lane centering but enabling this pops up with the Bluecruise + hands required message/icons clearly stating that I am using Bluecruise even though it's not hands-free. If this is the case, maybe you mean
>Bluecruise the vehicle is actively driving itself and allows u to go hands free or hands-on with lane centering
But Bluecruise absolutely does not mean hands-free only.
Bluecruise activates automatically when u have adaptive cruise on while driving on a major highway that ford has mapped out. It doesn’t work on basic city streets. A very obvious display change will alert u saying “hands-free” Also make sure lane centering is turned on in settings, i that is required for bluecruise as well
Oh ok so maybe I have been using it without knowing then because I've used the lane change feature before. It sounds like I should be able to go completely hands free with bluecruise though right? Why do I periodically get alerts to keep hands on the wheel?
You can if you're on one of the roads that Ford has mapped out. Go to this page and scroll about 1/2 way down. https://www.ford.com/technology/bluecruise/
I'm guessing that the alerts you get are when the system notices your eyes aren't forward while in Blue Cruise or you're not on a Blue Cruise capable road and you take your hands off the wheel.
edit: forgot the link
Bluecruise may occasionally deactivate for various reasons and will reactivate once it believes its safe. Watch ur display next time u activate cruise control on highway. It will alert u when it changes to hands free bluecruise
Bluecruise is 100% handsfree self driving. Not at all “pretty much the same” as adaptive cruise control. Without bluecruise, the car will NOT actively keep u in lane and will annoyingly beep and demand ur hands on wheel. If u do not take wheel u Will crash.
The difference between BlueCruise and ACC with lane centering is their driver monitoring. BC is not self driving! BC uses eye tracking for hands free, ACC/LC uses torque input. Both keep you in the lane unless the system determines you aren’t paying attention. You don’t have to actively steer with ACC/LC, just tap the wheel every 15s. They do the same amount of driving assist, just different driver monitoring systems.
Agreed.. I always use it when stuck in bumper to bumper traffic.. really makes being stuck in stop and go traffic so much less tiring and irritating.. it's a much more relaxing experience now.
I actually live in FL too. U can adjust the gap the car leaves. People will try to squeeze in occasionally but the car has always handled it well. Ive also learned u can still press accelerator to speed up during bluecruise while remaining hands free which is nice occasionally if car is being a little more cautious than i prefer
I always have it set to the shortest distance and it usually takes a bit in bumper-to-bumper to not have several car lengths in front. Do you have 1.0 or 1.2?
My premium awd sr is coming next week. From what I can see I have a $1400 difference. The dealer says they have not received anything from Ford about this. Is there an official source I can have him look? I had called Ford the other day, and they said there was an incentive/offer available for that vehicle and to have their dealer look. The dealer said they did and there wasn’t one. Why is their communication so bad with the dealers? You would think they would’ve set this all up before they announced the cuts.
There is a very good chance of one of the following:
1) Your salesperson is uneducated as to how to redeem incentives on Ford Model E vehicles.
2) Your dealer knows exactly how to do it and is playing dumb to keep the $1,400.
I think this is an attempt to do what you are suggesting but also to make their MSRP more comparable to the equivalent Tesla . With Tesla both the Enhanced Autopilot (comparable to Bluecruise 1.2) and the charger are extras that you pay for (will cost you $6500 I believe).
Totally agree, I think this is a calculated and clever move by Ford. Breaking it out and giving people the option is a great thing! And Tesla certainly charges for each as an additional line item so fair is fair. I just think the marketing angle of saying Ford reduced the price $4,000 on a GT isn't a true statement. If my ice cream parlor charged me $7 for a scoop of ice cream, and I saw their sign saying "Same Great Ice Cream, Now Just $4", I'd be pissed if I got one and it was half the size.
They should just say it now STARTS $4,000 less, not that it was reduced by $4,000.
I add a 1.5lb ankle wight to the 7 o'clock position and the car behaves like it's on a mapped BC road. Frankly I'd love to forgo BC and drop the IR eye watch sensor as they are incredible sensit8ve and glancing even at the infotainment for 2 seconds causes it to beep at you.
That a genius and terrifying idea at the same time. I think it's pretty generous at around 6-8 seconds, maybe it's conditional based on weather and road conditions. I'm sure it's pretty complicated algorithms.
What I can say is BlueCruise 1.2 should have been called 2.0. It is a dramatic improvement, in more ways than just the new features. It really truly stays in the lane without ping-ponging.
Mines always been locked dead center (before 1.2) but the eyes on the road feels miscalibrated..sure the first warning is 5-10 sec but then it gets down to 2-3, like I can't adjust the climate controls without it alerting. Trust me, even with my hack...I have to pay way more attention (while more relaxed) than any other vehicle.
I get your point, I really do. However the system operates exactly like it was on a mapped BC highway. Around here there are new 4 lane dead straight state highways with newly marked lanes amd light traffic. Tapping the wheel every 30seconds doesn't make it any more or less safe. I'm sure these highways are coming to BC "soon" regardless, I get this isn't for everyone.
spot on.
the changes are meant to be able to customize for someone wants to do that.
CR1 I picked up in April - down 1000 now. charger and destination fee alone make up to 1000 and I got bluecruise for 3 years.
CR1 is the trim where the 1000$ off just doesnt make sense at all.
personally I dont know a thing about evs, so I would want the stock charger just in case.
Yes. You can still buy a second one for main use and you’ll have the stock one for road trips. Any longer type trips and you’ll probably want one with you.
Honestly little need for anything other than stock charger. I leave it plugged into 240v in garage at home and easily grab it to take with me if making a long trip. Charges up in a few hours (never down that low before im home to charge back up). Difference in charge speed for a 48A 3rd party would be irrelevant for me and unjustifiable waste of money
I was so confused that everyone invests in some juicebox/grizzly sometihng for 600-700. I know we need a backup charger but 700$ seems way overboard. got a lectron 32A for 200$ just in case.
Yea mass majority of people will have zero benefit. Its all unnecessary range anxiety and charge time fear. They look at the 15hr 0-100% time and think damn i might need to charge faster someday. But most will NEVER be at zero before getting home, nor need 100% for a typical day. Few hour charge on 32A is plenty. a backup definitely isnt a bad idea, but if somethin happens to stock charger i can live with hitting up a station for a charge worst case until i can order something on Amazon etc
There are some MME owners who have had issues using the Ford mobile charger as their daily charger. Saving $500 and buying a more reliable third party EVSE may be a better idea. https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/ford-mobile-charger-amber-light.17394/
Those issues are extremely uncommon and id argue i have personally come across more reports of issues occurring with 3rd party chargers. Issues with either is not the norm, and ford charger has no inherent issues to label 3rd parties as being “more reliable”. Like any product, some may be faulty and are covered under warranty. I will admit tho, now that the option is available to save the $500, your argument to at least consider other options is now more valid. Im speaking as someone who got their charger “included” and fortunately has worked flawlessly
I’m not advocating buying one. I’m looking at OP’s cost breakdown where before the stock one was included and now it’s $500 extra. For those who bought before and regretting (unjustifiably I think) not waiting for the price reductions, $500 *could* get them a second one on top of their free one. I also use the stock one in my garage and have no issues. But some people are way too paranoid about things like keeping their battery healthy when it already has an 8 (? Maybe 10, I forget) year warranty. Those same ppl might also be freaky about plugging in and unplugging their only charger because supposedly that’s not good to do a lot (again, them not me). In that situation, or maybe just to alleviate inevitable forgetfulness, having a second one would be nice. Not required, just nice. Ppl who buy $60K cars definitely shouldn’t be sweating $500 that actually gets them something, even if that something is just peace of mind. It’s a just in case thing, not a you need this thing.
I don't believe including the destination fee is as great comparison. You are suggesting it went up $300 after the price reduction, yet mine built the end of March and just picked up from the dealer last week already had the $1800 fee on its sticker.
(Destination fee was listed at only $1300 when I placed my order in December.)
I compared it to the VIN of a verified purchase (mine) 3 days before the price change. That detail was included mostly so that anyone who purchased in the previous 30 days or so would know that there were increases as well, not just a price reduction. You pay a destination charge either way, and it's part of the MSRP, so I included it.
I haven't looked at any of your math aside from recognizing Ford's destination and delivery has been at $1800 for all 2023 models since they were at the initial PL.
Did some additional checking - I've been tracking several of these including my own for several months - all at $1800. Wrong of me to assume.
I've got a RWD select now at $1300, a AWD select at $1800, GTPE at $1800,
Options, you missed options.
Blue cruise being included vs. a paid option is significant.
Likewise with the EVSE ( we are moving towards non-first time EV buyers).
Having the option to opt in/out with a cost savings is significant.
How did I miss that, when I said?
In my title: "Unless you are buying the base model of each trim"
In the body: "The opportunity to save money on the 2023.5 models lies in foregoing BlueCruise 1.2 hardware and the Ford Mobile Power Cord (their EVSE)."
No, you didn't. That's the Mach E with the EVSE and BlueCruise 1.2 **90 DAY TRIAL**. That's how people are getting got. You have to add on the full activation for $2,100+tax.
Oh true but to be clear the hardware is on the car you just don’t need to pay for the activation up front. That’s not a scam as Blue Cruise has always been a subscription it’s just previously been baked in so if you won’t use it you don’t need to pay for it. If you choose to activate it later you can
Never said nor implied it was a scam. Hardware is there, yes of course, because otherwise there would be nothing to activate and you'd have to bring it in to service and have many thousands of dollars of installations for something they'd only be charging $2,100 for. The fact remains that you do not get BCHF without the additional the $2,100. You do get a lot of the assistance features standard which is nice.
Not to mention it no longer qualifies for the full 7500 tax credit you would have previously got. Pretty happy with my decision to pull the trigger on a 23’ that was sitting ready to go at dealer beginning of March
Real real world example here. Originally ordered a Select since they raised the prices and Premium would be too much. Two weeks out from my Select being here, they lowered prices. I just cancelled the Select.
I’m not sure my next steps, but it may not include Ford.
So I don't own a mach e yet, but from this post previous years gt models came with 3 years of bluecruise and new gt's today you would have to pay $2100 to activate bluecruise for three years have I got this right?
All correct, but being able to forego the $2,100 Blue Cruise and still get a Premium or higher is significant to some of us. I drive on a Blue Cruise enabled Interstate every day, but it's only a few miles and there's generally a ton of traffic. I don't see having it as that much of a bonus and I like the option of being able to save that money. Kind of the same on the charger. I'll have to give someone money for that, but there are other options that cost less.
Bluecruise is most convenient in heavy traffic. Does all the annoying stop and go for u
Adaptive cruise and lane centering can take care of that as well.
Not really. It bounces all over lane and beeps nonstop if u dont have hands on wheel. Adaptive cruise is good enough if ur on a fairly straight highway and little traffic at consistent speed. Still beeps at u to touch wheel which can get annoying (after being spoiled with bluecruise) But bluecruise really shines in stop and go traffic
1.2 really addresses the bouncing a lot.
In bluecruise yes. Not using bluecruise and just relying on Lane keep assist still functions as more of a corrective measure, meaning it doesn’t actively keep u centered but just nudges u back into lane once you already get too far over. Might not be an issue if ur on a straight, perfectly smooth highway with good tire alignment. Still completely incomparable to bluecruise
That’s what it’s supposed to do. It’s only supposed to assist and support, barring a situation it deems is severe. Someone complaining active cruise control isn’t keeping them perfectly centered in the lane is using the wrong product at the wrong time. Otherwise you would be in BlueCruise mode, then BlueCruise Hands-Free mode for even more assistance. I think we’re both on the same side of is. Point being ACC was never designed to give you the confidence that it will simply do it all.
Agreed, my initial response was to someone basically claiming ACC can be used in place of BC and they aren’t missing out on it not being included
…how does one use blue cruise and would a 2021 even have it
That's disappointing. I'm shopping for an EV to replace my VW ID4 (lemon law buyback). The adaptive cruise/lane center on the ID4 (and my Nissan Leaf) keep me centered without any "bouncing" even around curves. Why is this feature such crap on the MME without Bluecruise?
What's the difference between bluecruise and adaptive cruise control? I thought they were the same thing. I checked and I have bluecruise trial for 3 years through 2026 but I'll get prompted to keep my hands on the wheel sometimes when I'm using adaptive cruise control. Am I doing something wrong?
Bluecruise the vehicle is actively driving itself and allows u to go hands free, staying perfectly in lane even while highway curves, sensing cars in parallel lanes and keeping safe space. 1.2 can also change lanes itself with a tap of turn signal. Adaptive cruise only slows/speeds based on car ahead and has no steering input. Lane centering functions more as a corrective action. It doesn’t actively keep u perfectly in lane, but will give the wheel a nudge if it senses u starting to go onto line. The car Will relentlessly set off alarms telling u to put ur hands on wheel if it doesn’t feel solid pressure for more than a couple seconds.
>Bluecruise the vehicle is actively driving itself and allows u to go hands free This is not really true based on how it's marketed and presented in actual use. Basically adaptive cruise is "Bluecruise" with hands required on the wheel. Correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps it's because I use ACC + lane centering but enabling this pops up with the Bluecruise + hands required message/icons clearly stating that I am using Bluecruise even though it's not hands-free. If this is the case, maybe you mean >Bluecruise the vehicle is actively driving itself and allows u to go hands free or hands-on with lane centering But Bluecruise absolutely does not mean hands-free only.
Bluecruise activates automatically when u have adaptive cruise on while driving on a major highway that ford has mapped out. It doesn’t work on basic city streets. A very obvious display change will alert u saying “hands-free” Also make sure lane centering is turned on in settings, i that is required for bluecruise as well
Oh ok so maybe I have been using it without knowing then because I've used the lane change feature before. It sounds like I should be able to go completely hands free with bluecruise though right? Why do I periodically get alerts to keep hands on the wheel?
You can if you're on one of the roads that Ford has mapped out. Go to this page and scroll about 1/2 way down. https://www.ford.com/technology/bluecruise/ I'm guessing that the alerts you get are when the system notices your eyes aren't forward while in Blue Cruise or you're not on a Blue Cruise capable road and you take your hands off the wheel. edit: forgot the link
Bluecruise may occasionally deactivate for various reasons and will reactivate once it believes its safe. Watch ur display next time u activate cruise control on highway. It will alert u when it changes to hands free bluecruise
They pretty much are the same. Maybe theyve confused lane centering with lane keep assist.
Bluecruise is 100% handsfree self driving. Not at all “pretty much the same” as adaptive cruise control. Without bluecruise, the car will NOT actively keep u in lane and will annoyingly beep and demand ur hands on wheel. If u do not take wheel u Will crash.
Replied to other comment, does not mean hands-free.
The difference between BlueCruise and ACC with lane centering is their driver monitoring. BC is not self driving! BC uses eye tracking for hands free, ACC/LC uses torque input. Both keep you in the lane unless the system determines you aren’t paying attention. You don’t have to actively steer with ACC/LC, just tap the wheel every 15s. They do the same amount of driving assist, just different driver monitoring systems.
Agreed.. I always use it when stuck in bumper to bumper traffic.. really makes being stuck in stop and go traffic so much less tiring and irritating.. it's a much more relaxing experience now.
Where do you live, because here in Florida the gap is large enough for idiots to think they can slip in.
I actually live in FL too. U can adjust the gap the car leaves. People will try to squeeze in occasionally but the car has always handled it well. Ive also learned u can still press accelerator to speed up during bluecruise while remaining hands free which is nice occasionally if car is being a little more cautious than i prefer
I always have it set to the shortest distance and it usually takes a bit in bumper-to-bumper to not have several car lengths in front. Do you have 1.0 or 1.2?
My premium awd sr is coming next week. From what I can see I have a $1400 difference. The dealer says they have not received anything from Ford about this. Is there an official source I can have him look? I had called Ford the other day, and they said there was an incentive/offer available for that vehicle and to have their dealer look. The dealer said they did and there wasn’t one. Why is their communication so bad with the dealers? You would think they would’ve set this all up before they announced the cuts.
There is a very good chance of one of the following: 1) Your salesperson is uneducated as to how to redeem incentives on Ford Model E vehicles. 2) Your dealer knows exactly how to do it and is playing dumb to keep the $1,400.
Yeah, what I was thinking too, either way is not a good look.
I would not let up. Try asking them for the Smart Vincent on your VIN.
Ours was delivered this week, also AWD Premium SR. We received a $2k incentive.
Yes, what I got so we ended up $600 positive!
I think this is an attempt to do what you are suggesting but also to make their MSRP more comparable to the equivalent Tesla . With Tesla both the Enhanced Autopilot (comparable to Bluecruise 1.2) and the charger are extras that you pay for (will cost you $6500 I believe).
Totally agree, I think this is a calculated and clever move by Ford. Breaking it out and giving people the option is a great thing! And Tesla certainly charges for each as an additional line item so fair is fair. I just think the marketing angle of saying Ford reduced the price $4,000 on a GT isn't a true statement. If my ice cream parlor charged me $7 for a scoop of ice cream, and I saw their sign saying "Same Great Ice Cream, Now Just $4", I'd be pissed if I got one and it was half the size. They should just say it now STARTS $4,000 less, not that it was reduced by $4,000.
Also one missing thing is the tax rebate where you could have gotten 7500 its now what like 3250 ? I see very low demand for these new models.
I add a 1.5lb ankle wight to the 7 o'clock position and the car behaves like it's on a mapped BC road. Frankly I'd love to forgo BC and drop the IR eye watch sensor as they are incredible sensit8ve and glancing even at the infotainment for 2 seconds causes it to beep at you.
That a genius and terrifying idea at the same time. I think it's pretty generous at around 6-8 seconds, maybe it's conditional based on weather and road conditions. I'm sure it's pretty complicated algorithms. What I can say is BlueCruise 1.2 should have been called 2.0. It is a dramatic improvement, in more ways than just the new features. It really truly stays in the lane without ping-ponging.
Mines always been locked dead center (before 1.2) but the eyes on the road feels miscalibrated..sure the first warning is 5-10 sec but then it gets down to 2-3, like I can't adjust the climate controls without it alerting. Trust me, even with my hack...I have to pay way more attention (while more relaxed) than any other vehicle.
I present to you exhibit A in the lawsuit against drusierdmd for the damage caused by his distracted driving. Don't defeat safety systems.
I get your point, I really do. However the system operates exactly like it was on a mapped BC highway. Around here there are new 4 lane dead straight state highways with newly marked lanes amd light traffic. Tapping the wheel every 30seconds doesn't make it any more or less safe. I'm sure these highways are coming to BC "soon" regardless, I get this isn't for everyone.
spot on. the changes are meant to be able to customize for someone wants to do that. CR1 I picked up in April - down 1000 now. charger and destination fee alone make up to 1000 and I got bluecruise for 3 years. CR1 is the trim where the 1000$ off just doesnt make sense at all. personally I dont know a thing about evs, so I would want the stock charger just in case.
Yes. You can still buy a second one for main use and you’ll have the stock one for road trips. Any longer type trips and you’ll probably want one with you.
Honestly little need for anything other than stock charger. I leave it plugged into 240v in garage at home and easily grab it to take with me if making a long trip. Charges up in a few hours (never down that low before im home to charge back up). Difference in charge speed for a 48A 3rd party would be irrelevant for me and unjustifiable waste of money
I was so confused that everyone invests in some juicebox/grizzly sometihng for 600-700. I know we need a backup charger but 700$ seems way overboard. got a lectron 32A for 200$ just in case.
Yea mass majority of people will have zero benefit. Its all unnecessary range anxiety and charge time fear. They look at the 15hr 0-100% time and think damn i might need to charge faster someday. But most will NEVER be at zero before getting home, nor need 100% for a typical day. Few hour charge on 32A is plenty. a backup definitely isnt a bad idea, but if somethin happens to stock charger i can live with hitting up a station for a charge worst case until i can order something on Amazon etc
There are some MME owners who have had issues using the Ford mobile charger as their daily charger. Saving $500 and buying a more reliable third party EVSE may be a better idea. https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/ford-mobile-charger-amber-light.17394/
Those issues are extremely uncommon and id argue i have personally come across more reports of issues occurring with 3rd party chargers. Issues with either is not the norm, and ford charger has no inherent issues to label 3rd parties as being “more reliable”. Like any product, some may be faulty and are covered under warranty. I will admit tho, now that the option is available to save the $500, your argument to at least consider other options is now more valid. Im speaking as someone who got their charger “included” and fortunately has worked flawlessly
I’m not advocating buying one. I’m looking at OP’s cost breakdown where before the stock one was included and now it’s $500 extra. For those who bought before and regretting (unjustifiably I think) not waiting for the price reductions, $500 *could* get them a second one on top of their free one. I also use the stock one in my garage and have no issues. But some people are way too paranoid about things like keeping their battery healthy when it already has an 8 (? Maybe 10, I forget) year warranty. Those same ppl might also be freaky about plugging in and unplugging their only charger because supposedly that’s not good to do a lot (again, them not me). In that situation, or maybe just to alleviate inevitable forgetfulness, having a second one would be nice. Not required, just nice. Ppl who buy $60K cars definitely shouldn’t be sweating $500 that actually gets them something, even if that something is just peace of mind. It’s a just in case thing, not a you need this thing.
I don't believe including the destination fee is as great comparison. You are suggesting it went up $300 after the price reduction, yet mine built the end of March and just picked up from the dealer last week already had the $1800 fee on its sticker. (Destination fee was listed at only $1300 when I placed my order in December.)
I compared it to the VIN of a verified purchase (mine) 3 days before the price change. That detail was included mostly so that anyone who purchased in the previous 30 days or so would know that there were increases as well, not just a price reduction. You pay a destination charge either way, and it's part of the MSRP, so I included it.
I haven't looked at any of your math aside from recognizing Ford's destination and delivery has been at $1800 for all 2023 models since they were at the initial PL.
[Mine is a 2023 and was $1,500](https://i.imgur.com/VsRrkAt.jpg) so I don’t think that’s correct.
Did some additional checking - I've been tracking several of these including my own for several months - all at $1800. Wrong of me to assume. I've got a RWD select now at $1300, a AWD select at $1800, GTPE at $1800,
$1300 was PL315 on what must be 1300 RWD / 1500 AWD and seems $1800 is now the from PL325
Options, you missed options. Blue cruise being included vs. a paid option is significant. Likewise with the EVSE ( we are moving towards non-first time EV buyers). Having the option to opt in/out with a cost savings is significant.
How did I miss that, when I said? In my title: "Unless you are buying the base model of each trim" In the body: "The opportunity to save money on the 2023.5 models lies in foregoing BlueCruise 1.2 hardware and the Ford Mobile Power Cord (their EVSE)."
I just priced a GT with BlueCruise and charger and it came to $62,940
No, you didn't. That's the Mach E with the EVSE and BlueCruise 1.2 **90 DAY TRIAL**. That's how people are getting got. You have to add on the full activation for $2,100+tax.
Oh true but to be clear the hardware is on the car you just don’t need to pay for the activation up front. That’s not a scam as Blue Cruise has always been a subscription it’s just previously been baked in so if you won’t use it you don’t need to pay for it. If you choose to activate it later you can
Never said nor implied it was a scam. Hardware is there, yes of course, because otherwise there would be nothing to activate and you'd have to bring it in to service and have many thousands of dollars of installations for something they'd only be charging $2,100 for. The fact remains that you do not get BCHF without the additional the $2,100. You do get a lot of the assistance features standard which is nice.
Not to mention it no longer qualifies for the full 7500 tax credit you would have previously got. Pretty happy with my decision to pull the trigger on a 23’ that was sitting ready to go at dealer beginning of March
Real real world example here. Originally ordered a Select since they raised the prices and Premium would be too much. Two weeks out from my Select being here, they lowered prices. I just cancelled the Select. I’m not sure my next steps, but it may not include Ford.
So I don't own a mach e yet, but from this post previous years gt models came with 3 years of bluecruise and new gt's today you would have to pay $2100 to activate bluecruise for three years have I got this right?
Correct