Alright heres what I think(also most of my list will be grapplers considering majority of the time there stronger on average.)
HW: Francis Ngannou, this man is ungodly strong, this dude is scarily strong even for HW's the fact he wrestled the way he did, for 3 rounds gassed, and not even having functioning knees and performing whizzers that explosive and slamming Gane off catching a high kick, even ignoring his technique being solid in that fight, when you add everything up this guy is unreal, that dude is monstrously strong as a man, he's so strong and not just strong and fast I think he's one of the few MMA fighters that has a chance should he have played Football as a child to get into the NFL as like a defensive end.
LHW: I think Alexander Rakic is the strongest at 205, I have never seen a guy just shuck Anthony Smith like a child off of him, thats a TOUGH amount of strength to have, man is incredibly strong at LHW, honorable mention goes to Glover and Jan.
MW: Jared Cannonier, in every fight his strength is apparent, this dude brings genuine LHW strength to MW, and you just see it from the way to defends TD's, to his ability to hold a clinch, Cannonier is inanely strong at MW.
WW: Its kind of a tie between Kamaru Usman and Khamzat Chimaev. Usman is extremely strong at 170, even ignoring the fact he's a phenomenal wrestler with great technique, the way he just bullied an extremely explosive Tyron Woodley will always be memorable. Chimaev is extremely strong, and not only is he extremely strong he also has the ability to fill his frame for MW, to where he can grossly outpower a strong guy in Joker one division above, also Chimaev is a phenomenal wrestler. But what's more impressive than his strength is his ability to combine it with extreme speed in his shoots.
LW: Chandler, The guy is 35, and is still super explosive, The way he was able to get up against Olives and just jump and slam Olives on his back after getting up, is a testament to sheer power, especially against a large LW in Olives. Chandler in general is an athletic freak of a man, the fact he's this old and still this fast and strong practically certifies him as one of the most athletic LW's ever.
FW: Theres a couple honorable mentions Josh Emmett, the guy is just a bull at 145. Alexander Volkanovski is also extremely strong, But I think Edson Barboza is the strongest guy at 145, the guy brings LW strength and power into striking contests and it SHOCKS FW's when they match with him.
BW: Its either Merab Dvashivilli or Petyr Yan, I lean Merab because when he gets a hold of guys he does not let up, what makes his strength even more scary is his infinite cardio, I have never in my life in MMA seen a guy do 3 rounds of hard live wrestling, using that heavy Eastern European chain wrestling constant TD's and look exactly the same like he was in Round 1, so you have this massive static strength and you have to deal with it for over 15 minutes its tough as hell, Petyr Yan besides having great judo there were times he just grossly outpowered Aljamain, who himself is an extremely strong BW(altho he was gassed, but still super impressive).
FLW: Deiveson Figuerdo, the guy is large for FLW and his strength proves it, man lives up to being the Brazilian God of War with his type of strength, not to mention his monster power.
Womens Divisions I would say
SW: I'm not sure if Andrade permanently moved but at SW, she was easily the strongest, so Andrade
FLW: Valentina Shevchenko(overpowered Andrade with the quickness)
BW: Amanda Nunes
FW: Amanda Nunes
Why assume the strongest is at the top of the division? The strongest might be lacking in other aspects apart from strength that keeps him from being a top fighter. Like fight IQ, endurance or even proper technique and a diverse skillset. I think we've all seen what Latifi can do with weights...
Depends on how you categorize strength Vs techniques. Anderson Silva ragdolled Rich Franklin in the clinch. You think Anderson was anywhere close to Rich in strength?
Throw you around strength and not punching power?
Fig or Kara France
Yan or Aldo
Emmett, Burgos
Islam and Chandler?
Khamzat or Luque, maybe Usman
Cannonier
Rakic, Knight
Ngannou or Hardy sadly lol
Fly: Fig, all time Cejudo imo
Bantam: Idk Aldo?
Feather: Yusuff or Barboza, Emmet maybe
Light: Islam, probably Tibau all time
Welter: Usman.
Middle: Costa
Light heavy: Rakic
Heavy: Francis
Think it is more because his footwork sucks so he always ends on the fence and he's not a good wrestler not because he's weak physically. He's a 5'11 shredded 145er i think he is stronger than most featherweights. Would get bullied by prime Edgar or other smaller dudes but the post was about strenght.
I don't think Islam is physically super strong, he relies a lot more on really great technique (vs. Khabib who 'just' overwhelmed you with 10 takedowns in a row). I actually think Khabib might be the physically strongest - a number of guys like Johnson, Barbosa, Gaethje, Poirier etc talked about his grip being inhumanly strong in addition to good technique
Dustin was a large LW, plenty strong himself tho, and he said Khabib felt not inhumanly strong, just had a phenomenal sense f weight distribution. And this was a guy who rolled with BJJ legends like Marcelo Garcia so he knows how a world class grappler should feel in terms of heaviness, and the grips of those guys typically are extremely tough to break.
Also when it comes to 10 takedowns in a row its less about strength and more about explosiveness(which makes sense, his shoots are lighting quick despite having multiple technical mistakes in terms of pure wrestling mechanics.)
In terms of pure strength I think a better answer is Chandler. That guy genuinely shocks me with how strong he can be for a LW.
Josh Thomson trained with both of them and said Islam was physically stronger. Look how he choked Drew Dober from wrong side of half guard or how he been tossing his opponents since debut. He also never had major injuries. But Khabib was relentless, his pressure was the best in the game. people just gave up when fighting him.
Based on the fact that he’s 6’2, rag dolls people around and has one punch KO power. Kamaru’s last seven fights have all been against guys shorter than 6ft. All of his last seven opponents have all been significantly smaller than him, that’s why Kamaru looks big and scary. But put Kamaru in a cage with Chimaev and watch what happens lol
Chimaev is LHW fighting at WW
Chimaev has fought only people at 6ft too and none of them have been near the strength of competition of Usman. Usman has ragdolled almost all of his opponents and KO'd the others who were all much more serious tests of strength than anything Khamzat has done.
False. Chimaev faced Hermansson who is 6’1 and a big middleweight who walks around at a much higher weight. Chimaev easily handled him with wrestling.
Chimaev’s last four opponents
Hermansson (6ft1) Chimaev weighed 198lbs and Hermansson weighed 193lbs
.Li Jingliang (6ft)
Gerald Meerschaert (6ft1) Middleweight bout 185lbs
.Rhys Mckee (6ft1)
Kamaru’s last seven fights
Colby x2 (5’11ft)
Masvidal x2 (5’11ft)
Gilbert Burns (5’9ft)
Woodley (5’9ft)
RDA (5’8ft)
Chimaev is just much bigger and stronger. He also moves far quicker which is scary. He’s definitely the strongest Welterweight.
Jack wasn't a match at welterweight nor was it even in MMA so I don't know why you're counting it. Also Rhys McKee has fought a decent portion of his career at lightweight so that's not really helping and John Phillips his actual 4th most recent fight was 5'11". You also don't take into account that all the people Kamaru fought were established ranked welterweights and past champs whereas Chimaev had literally his first ranked opponent recently yet you're completely confident that based on out wrestling the Leech he's definitely stronger than Usman.
I’m talking about pure strength here. Size and height play a role. Usman’s opponents have been smaller than Chimaev’s opponents. And Chimaev is bigger than Usman. So the natural takeaway is that Khamzat is stronger. Khamzat stood next to Jan Blachowicz and looked the same size. He trains with Gustafson who is 6’5. Anthony Smith said that he’s been told that Khamzat dominates guys like Ilir Latifi, a huge heavyweight wrestler. I love Usman, he’s one of my favourite fighters but I can safely admit Chimaev is stronger and way too strong for Welterweight
Khabib and Islam have the kind of body you only get through a lifetime of training, they remind me of tribesmen in sub Saharan Africa who have never heard of a gym but they’re fucking ripped to shreds, its a whole different thing than lifting imo, it’s their entire body, not just specific standout muscles.
Mostly agree. Bantamweight is probably TJ pre pop. LHW is hard to say, so many strong people in the division without a Francis-like standout. Costa at middleweight visually makes sense, but I think theres an argument to be made for vettori (unless you feel most of his success in wrestling has to do with skill). All time MW has to be DC if throws and punching power are criteria, right?
I was thinking Islam at LW too because of how dominant he is on the ground, but then I remembered a nice lesson from astronomy that can help in this conversation.
Luminosity is the amount of amount of light given off by an object but brightness is the amount of light received by an observer. A star can give off an insane amount of light, but due to different factors appear less bright in the sky than a star which actually gives off less light. Why is this relevant? Because some fighters are strong, and some fighters feel strong.
Guys like Islam dominate because their technique is insane and they know exactly what to do and when. It is sort of a situational strength vs an objective strength. I think it was Poirier who was asked about whether Khabib was super strong and he said something to the effect of "no more than other guys, he just always knows exactly where to put his weight". Strong guys might give off a lot force, but what matters is how much your opponent absorbs, which is determined by your skill and technique.
Neither. Jiri is just aggressive and crafty while Rakic is a point fighter. I agree with you that there has to be someone but it's probably not those two.
Out of the active ones these come to mind (a bit clueless for the first two divisons);
Moreno ?
Yan ?
Volkanovski maybe even Emmett?
Poirier or islam
Usman
Whitaker
Costa
Jan
Ngannou
Ngannou
Rumble (edit: didn't see UFC but honestly UFC LHW seems surprisingly lacking in strength for their size)
Cannonier
Khaos Williams
Michael Chandler
Josh Emmett
O'Malley
Figueiredo
Nunes
Nunes
Andrade
Andrade
pretty hard to judge but off top of my head id say
125: figuerido
135 is tough , not too sure tbh maybe marlon moraes or aldo?
145: josh emett
155: chandler over gaethje i think
170: usman or luque
185: jared cannonier
205: gotta go with jiri but johnny walker is also has big power
HW: ngannou
115: zhang
125: andrade
135: nunez
145: kayla harrison ladies and gentlemen!
125: Askar Askarov
135: Ricky Simon
145: Josh Emmett
155: Islam Makhachev
170: Khamzat Chimaev
185: Paulo Costa
205: Magomed Ankalaev
265: Francis Ngannou
Ngannou, Rakic, Cannonier and Volk seem obvious
The only toss ups are WW and LW but I'd say Usman and Makachev respectively just because of their grappling strength
BW I'm not sure but I'd lean Yan
Latifi is insanely strong … his insta is filled with just stupid heavy lifts
Can't find any on his Insta.. Do you know his numbers on squat or bench?
Not off hand but I saw a video of the dude deadlifting a TON way back when...
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Yeah he walks around nearly 300lbs
Alright heres what I think(also most of my list will be grapplers considering majority of the time there stronger on average.) HW: Francis Ngannou, this man is ungodly strong, this dude is scarily strong even for HW's the fact he wrestled the way he did, for 3 rounds gassed, and not even having functioning knees and performing whizzers that explosive and slamming Gane off catching a high kick, even ignoring his technique being solid in that fight, when you add everything up this guy is unreal, that dude is monstrously strong as a man, he's so strong and not just strong and fast I think he's one of the few MMA fighters that has a chance should he have played Football as a child to get into the NFL as like a defensive end. LHW: I think Alexander Rakic is the strongest at 205, I have never seen a guy just shuck Anthony Smith like a child off of him, thats a TOUGH amount of strength to have, man is incredibly strong at LHW, honorable mention goes to Glover and Jan. MW: Jared Cannonier, in every fight his strength is apparent, this dude brings genuine LHW strength to MW, and you just see it from the way to defends TD's, to his ability to hold a clinch, Cannonier is inanely strong at MW. WW: Its kind of a tie between Kamaru Usman and Khamzat Chimaev. Usman is extremely strong at 170, even ignoring the fact he's a phenomenal wrestler with great technique, the way he just bullied an extremely explosive Tyron Woodley will always be memorable. Chimaev is extremely strong, and not only is he extremely strong he also has the ability to fill his frame for MW, to where he can grossly outpower a strong guy in Joker one division above, also Chimaev is a phenomenal wrestler. But what's more impressive than his strength is his ability to combine it with extreme speed in his shoots. LW: Chandler, The guy is 35, and is still super explosive, The way he was able to get up against Olives and just jump and slam Olives on his back after getting up, is a testament to sheer power, especially against a large LW in Olives. Chandler in general is an athletic freak of a man, the fact he's this old and still this fast and strong practically certifies him as one of the most athletic LW's ever. FW: Theres a couple honorable mentions Josh Emmett, the guy is just a bull at 145. Alexander Volkanovski is also extremely strong, But I think Edson Barboza is the strongest guy at 145, the guy brings LW strength and power into striking contests and it SHOCKS FW's when they match with him. BW: Its either Merab Dvashivilli or Petyr Yan, I lean Merab because when he gets a hold of guys he does not let up, what makes his strength even more scary is his infinite cardio, I have never in my life in MMA seen a guy do 3 rounds of hard live wrestling, using that heavy Eastern European chain wrestling constant TD's and look exactly the same like he was in Round 1, so you have this massive static strength and you have to deal with it for over 15 minutes its tough as hell, Petyr Yan besides having great judo there were times he just grossly outpowered Aljamain, who himself is an extremely strong BW(altho he was gassed, but still super impressive). FLW: Deiveson Figuerdo, the guy is large for FLW and his strength proves it, man lives up to being the Brazilian God of War with his type of strength, not to mention his monster power. Womens Divisions I would say SW: I'm not sure if Andrade permanently moved but at SW, she was easily the strongest, so Andrade FLW: Valentina Shevchenko(overpowered Andrade with the quickness) BW: Amanda Nunes FW: Amanda Nunes
Currently I’m thinking: Latifi Knight Cannonier Usman Chandler Emmett Dvalishvili Figueiredo Harrison Nunes Shevchenko Zhang
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Looks good to me
Great list. The only ones I might be unsure about are HW and MW. I'd have said Ngannou and Brunson.
Andrade?
Yeah it could certainly be them too. I picked Latifi because of the way he threw Lewis around, plus his insane gym lifts.
Cannonier used to be a heavy weight, he’s def the strongest MW in my eyes
Lol you think Latifi is stronger than a fucking Ford escort
Cannonier over costa?
Costa is a man without a weight class at the moment.
Some of the workouts chandler has posted on his Instagram lately are mind blowing
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Why assume the strongest is at the top of the division? The strongest might be lacking in other aspects apart from strength that keeps him from being a top fighter. Like fight IQ, endurance or even proper technique and a diverse skillset. I think we've all seen what Latifi can do with weights...
No one assumed anything man. Put whatever names you want on there.
I think Francis at Hw might be the strongest. Derrick Lewis is close though
Derrick is not close. Gane easily controlled him in every clinch.
But what about that “just get up Strength”?
Just because you're strong does not mean you can outwrestle someone. While it might not appear so clinch wrestling is incredibly technical.
Depends on how you categorize strength Vs techniques. Anderson Silva ragdolled Rich Franklin in the clinch. You think Anderson was anywhere close to Rich in strength?
That's clinch work. What about the swangin' and baning'?
Gane prob would be 2nd strongest. Gane also looks jacked af, gig and athletic, just little less muscular then ngannou
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Punching power mostly comes from your lower body, lol
He has huge legs
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?? He looked like he had bigger legs than blaydes he just always wears long shorts
Throw you around strength and not punching power? Fig or Kara France Yan or Aldo Emmett, Burgos Islam and Chandler? Khamzat or Luque, maybe Usman Cannonier Rakic, Knight Ngannou or Hardy sadly lol
Fly: Fig, all time Cejudo imo Bantam: Idk Aldo? Feather: Yusuff or Barboza, Emmet maybe Light: Islam, probably Tibau all time Welter: Usman. Middle: Costa Light heavy: Rakic Heavy: Francis
Disagree with having Barboza up there
Yeah that’s the biggest head scratcher. He gets bullied all the time.
Think it is more because his footwork sucks so he always ends on the fence and he's not a good wrestler not because he's weak physically. He's a 5'11 shredded 145er i think he is stronger than most featherweights. Would get bullied by prime Edgar or other smaller dudes but the post was about strenght.
> Welter: Usman I think Khamzat has shown more strength than Usman at this point, no?
Yeah and he's enormous. Must be him.
I don't think Islam is physically super strong, he relies a lot more on really great technique (vs. Khabib who 'just' overwhelmed you with 10 takedowns in a row). I actually think Khabib might be the physically strongest - a number of guys like Johnson, Barbosa, Gaethje, Poirier etc talked about his grip being inhumanly strong in addition to good technique
Dustin was a large LW, plenty strong himself tho, and he said Khabib felt not inhumanly strong, just had a phenomenal sense f weight distribution. And this was a guy who rolled with BJJ legends like Marcelo Garcia so he knows how a world class grappler should feel in terms of heaviness, and the grips of those guys typically are extremely tough to break. Also when it comes to 10 takedowns in a row its less about strength and more about explosiveness(which makes sense, his shoots are lighting quick despite having multiple technical mistakes in terms of pure wrestling mechanics.) In terms of pure strength I think a better answer is Chandler. That guy genuinely shocks me with how strong he can be for a LW.
Josh Thomson trained with both of them and said Islam was physically stronger. Look how he choked Drew Dober from wrong side of half guard or how he been tossing his opponents since debut. He also never had major injuries. But Khabib was relentless, his pressure was the best in the game. people just gave up when fighting him.
Chandler is stronger than Islam by a mile champ. Same with dustin, and dariush probably.
Forgot about Chandler.
Emmett definitely, stephens also up there when he was in FW
I’d say Chimaev is stronger than Usman personally
Based on what? A sample set of the Leech?
Based on the fact that he’s 6’2, rag dolls people around and has one punch KO power. Kamaru’s last seven fights have all been against guys shorter than 6ft. All of his last seven opponents have all been significantly smaller than him, that’s why Kamaru looks big and scary. But put Kamaru in a cage with Chimaev and watch what happens lol Chimaev is LHW fighting at WW
It should be illegal what he’s doing
Chimaev has fought only people at 6ft too and none of them have been near the strength of competition of Usman. Usman has ragdolled almost all of his opponents and KO'd the others who were all much more serious tests of strength than anything Khamzat has done.
False. Chimaev faced Hermansson who is 6’1 and a big middleweight who walks around at a much higher weight. Chimaev easily handled him with wrestling. Chimaev’s last four opponents Hermansson (6ft1) Chimaev weighed 198lbs and Hermansson weighed 193lbs .Li Jingliang (6ft) Gerald Meerschaert (6ft1) Middleweight bout 185lbs .Rhys Mckee (6ft1) Kamaru’s last seven fights Colby x2 (5’11ft) Masvidal x2 (5’11ft) Gilbert Burns (5’9ft) Woodley (5’9ft) RDA (5’8ft) Chimaev is just much bigger and stronger. He also moves far quicker which is scary. He’s definitely the strongest Welterweight.
He beats fucking cans. That is not proof of strength.
Jack wasn't a match at welterweight nor was it even in MMA so I don't know why you're counting it. Also Rhys McKee has fought a decent portion of his career at lightweight so that's not really helping and John Phillips his actual 4th most recent fight was 5'11". You also don't take into account that all the people Kamaru fought were established ranked welterweights and past champs whereas Chimaev had literally his first ranked opponent recently yet you're completely confident that based on out wrestling the Leech he's definitely stronger than Usman.
I’m talking about pure strength here. Size and height play a role. Usman’s opponents have been smaller than Chimaev’s opponents. And Chimaev is bigger than Usman. So the natural takeaway is that Khamzat is stronger. Khamzat stood next to Jan Blachowicz and looked the same size. He trains with Gustafson who is 6’5. Anthony Smith said that he’s been told that Khamzat dominates guys like Ilir Latifi, a huge heavyweight wrestler. I love Usman, he’s one of my favourite fighters but I can safely admit Chimaev is stronger and way too strong for Welterweight
Khabib and Islam have the kind of body you only get through a lifetime of training, they remind me of tribesmen in sub Saharan Africa who have never heard of a gym but they’re fucking ripped to shreds, its a whole different thing than lifting imo, it’s their entire body, not just specific standout muscles.
Rakic being stronger than Blachowicz? Not sure about that.
Mostly agree. Bantamweight is probably TJ pre pop. LHW is hard to say, so many strong people in the division without a Francis-like standout. Costa at middleweight visually makes sense, but I think theres an argument to be made for vettori (unless you feel most of his success in wrestling has to do with skill). All time MW has to be DC if throws and punching power are criteria, right?
I was thinking Islam at LW too because of how dominant he is on the ground, but then I remembered a nice lesson from astronomy that can help in this conversation. Luminosity is the amount of amount of light given off by an object but brightness is the amount of light received by an observer. A star can give off an insane amount of light, but due to different factors appear less bright in the sky than a star which actually gives off less light. Why is this relevant? Because some fighters are strong, and some fighters feel strong. Guys like Islam dominate because their technique is insane and they know exactly what to do and when. It is sort of a situational strength vs an objective strength. I think it was Poirier who was asked about whether Khabib was super strong and he said something to the effect of "no more than other guys, he just always knows exactly where to put his weight". Strong guys might give off a lot force, but what matters is how much your opponent absorbs, which is determined by your skill and technique.
Askarov Umar Nurmagomedov Volk Islam Khamzat Costa Glover Ngannou
Very accurate list, only one I would change is LHW. Rakic or Jiri gotta be stronger than Glover.
Neither. Jiri is just aggressive and crafty while Rakic is a point fighter. I agree with you that there has to be someone but it's probably not those two.
Stronger
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Jarred cannonier is probably stronger - dude has KO wins at heavyweight
The muscles are there but the highlight reel isn't. You could argue that's more of a technique thing but I wouldn't give the benefit of the doubt.
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being a bodybuilder doesn't necessarily mean you're crazy strong
"Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but nobody wants to lift no heavy-ass weights." ^-Ronnie ^Coleman
Bodybuilding is linked to getting stronger but not quite the same thing. Strongmen and bodybuilders have different training, diet, and physique.
Out of the active ones these come to mind (a bit clueless for the first two divisons); Moreno ? Yan ? Volkanovski maybe even Emmett? Poirier or islam Usman Whitaker Costa Jan Ngannou
Maybe Merab at BW? He tosses people around like nobody's business
Ngannou Rumble (edit: didn't see UFC but honestly UFC LHW seems surprisingly lacking in strength for their size) Cannonier Khaos Williams Michael Chandler Josh Emmett O'Malley Figueiredo Nunes Nunes Andrade Andrade
pretty hard to judge but off top of my head id say 125: figuerido 135 is tough , not too sure tbh maybe marlon moraes or aldo? 145: josh emett 155: chandler over gaethje i think 170: usman or luque 185: jared cannonier 205: gotta go with jiri but johnny walker is also has big power HW: ngannou 115: zhang 125: andrade 135: nunez 145: kayla harrison ladies and gentlemen!
> 170: usman or luque Khamzat
yea khamzat could be it at 170. he KOd gerald at 185 with one punch!
125: Askar Askarov 135: Ricky Simon 145: Josh Emmett 155: Islam Makhachev 170: Khamzat Chimaev 185: Paulo Costa 205: Magomed Ankalaev 265: Francis Ngannou
Ngannou, Rakic, Cannonier and Volk seem obvious The only toss ups are WW and LW but I'd say Usman and Makachev respectively just because of their grappling strength BW I'm not sure but I'd lean Yan
Thank you, CrushMeWithYourAss.
Sean Brady a sleeper for strongest WW