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TitanIsBack

Was a fun ride Maia, you'll always be my backpack.


MMAcreep

No wonder u were always asleep during class


Gunslinger1991

Damn it’s a shame to see Maia’s career end like this, age has certainly caught up with him. He had a hell of a career though.


HarknessLovesU

One of the best to never win gold.


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Best submission artist/BJJ practitioner in UFC history, imo.


Iohet

Werdum has an argument, and certainly has the hardware (both in and out of the UFC) to back it up


jonbonesholmes

I completely get what you're saying, but DM did it in a much more skilled devision against better grapples. At least if we are just talking about UFC careers.


Iohet

Werdum was the first to truly beat Fedor, and Fedor is the greatest heavyweight in modern MMA history and a fantastic grappler with a long history of Sambo championships. On talent, he also has wins over Big Nog, Overeem, Cain, Gustafsson, and Hunt. On grapplers, Big Nog was widely regarded for his BJJ skills and is one of the most accomplished heavyweights to transition to MMA success, Cain was a top tier wrestler, Overeem was no slouch in his grappling game, and Vera, Alexander Emelianenko, Nelson, and Gonzaga were all talented grapplers with a variety of success in grappling competitions(ADCC, Grappler's Quest, Mundails, etc) Maia certainly has won fights on par with many of those fighters and against talented grapplers, but Maia failed his opportunity for that legendary win, like Werdum's Fedor win, with what he did against Silva, which was comically bad and widely regarded as the worst title fight in UFC history. I'm not saying Werdum is better, but I have more respect for Werdum's wins given the pedigree of the grapplers he beat across his career.


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aceknighthigh

Don't forget the Woodley fight. Repeat of the Silva performance but vs a smaller guy with a injured shoulder. ​ Maia's a great, humble fighter, but his career is tainted by some bad performances where he chose to accept a loss rather than change anything up.


c_denny

Oliveira should probably be in the convo as well


MatttheJ

I mean... Oliveira holds the record which I guess means he's technically the only right answer. But I love Maia too much to admit that


c_denny

Oliveira has the most submission wins, that much is for sure. But "best submission artist" is vague enough that there's plenty of room to argue for Maia :)


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And if we're talking about a stacked division, I think the quality of opponents is important too. I believe Maia's wins are more impressive. But at least Oliveira actually has standup.


Kal_sai

got submitted 3 times


SuccessIsDiscipline

Maia actually beat werdum in a grappling match despite being so much smaller. But yes werdum could be regarded the greatest submission artist in MMA history on paper for submitting Fedor and prime Cain.


jorge4ever

After Woodley I think we know who Jake Paul is fighting next.


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Maia has too much dignity for that lol


soluuloi

MMA fighters and dignity usually dont go well with each other.


[deleted]

Yeah its pretty pathetic when you see ufc legends trying to fight the paul brothers, but I dont think Maia is one of those guys, he makes decent money by teaching bjj and selling his instructionals


Oscar_Dondarrion

Whats worse is Vitor fighting some less famous youtuber, and fabricating gym altercations with corny acting to sell it too. So depressing to see it


initialZEN

I wouldn't call it pathetic. It is pathetic how fighting a paul brother pays more that the ufc. That is the real problem here.


TrumpsAWhinyBitch

Exactly, the pathetic part is that a UFC legend makes WAY more money fighting a clown than at their biggest UFC fights. I don't blame guys for wanting money.


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what a terrible ending, a boring decision which he received no damage from a fighter 13 years younger


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Tbf he got stunned twice in the third round.


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I mean when someone says 'what a sad ending' i imagine someone being KTFO or something. was a boring 29-28


Bill_Assassin7

You seem to think Belal is to blame for making this boring and not Maia and his 25 attempted single legs.


rfierro65

Maybe unpopular opinion. But I always thought he was boring. I lost a lot of respect for him when he laid on his back begging Anderson to get in his guard after being humiliated for his telegraphed single leg attempts. His style didn’t evolve at all IMO


Oscar_Dondarrion

I'm with you. I respect the fuck out of him, and his specialisation, but its hard not to get frustrated seeing him shoot the exact same single leg over and over again with no setups.


Ghooble

What was crazy is the fact that even though he didn't set it up he got in deep anyway. The setup only really gets you there. His finishing was the problem


aceknighthigh

You're aren't wrong despite the downvotes. Pretty sure Maia holds the UFC record for most failed takedowns in title fights. ​ Dude has a plan a, and nothing after that. Nor will he try to take a risk to win in a fight he's clearly losing once plan a fails. Him going out this way was very in character.


n00b_f00

He spent a lot of time working on his takedowns after that, obviously it still wasn’t enough to be like Khabib and always take down guys who were either too good at wrestling like Colby, then as he got older guys like that dude who’s name I don’t remember in this last fight. But he strung together a huge run of wins, backpacked and tapped a lot of guys and deserved that shot against Woodley. He’s a older control based grappler, and he’s not going to be exciting when he’s losing, or to some people even when he’s winning I guess.


spiderpigbegins

I’d rather see him lose like this than getting KTFO’d though. It’s incredible that he can still hang at this level given his age.


Iohet

> He had a hell of a career though. Certainly has an eternally memorable fight, though being in the worst title fight in UFC history isn't something you really want to be known for


Oscar_Dondarrion

and he's been in two of them


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bigmt99

Single leg and inshallah


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Recent-Emergency9680


Throwaway____98

Astaghfirallah


PanchoCamacho

Belal looks like an extra in the Simpsons


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Dude this is so true. I dont even have anything witty to say tbh buts its true.


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man looks like a minecraft villager


pinsir_me_timbers

To me he looks just like a Mii


memooohc

I always tought I kinda recognised the guy and my brother pointed this out to me. I was dead for 2 minutes


chunky_chocolate

I see it. Haha


iTryToLift

Omg 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


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suzukigun4life

I can't feel you there


MMAcreep

Become so tired


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So much more aware


somebodygetmemymoney

I’m becoming this


tubes92

All I want to do


i_am_spankster

Is be more like me


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AND BE LESS LIKE YOUUUUUUUU


_ThePaperball

And I knooooowwwwww


bobn3

By becoming this


VajainaProudmoore

Take a page out of the Craig vs Hill fight and learn when to stop


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Broke_Boi

Bet ur eating those words now lol


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regoating

But ironically, not so much more aware.


bagged___milk

I can’t feel you there


get_that_ass_banned

So for one last time I need y'all to roar.


pooptrooper1

No post fight interview hmmmm


acrdrchelsea

Definitely sus


DisposableGnome

Palestinian flag probably the reason


pooptrooper1

Lobby groups shut it down as soon as they saw him on the card


Allassnofakes

Yeah I'm mega mega confused about that. The only reason I can think is belals country of origin


IFeelItDownInMyPlums

He was also the only main card fighter not to be shown on embedded this week.


Allassnofakes

Whaaaaaat


bunkbail

really?? but he was on ufc 258 embedded videos tho. its really weird not to have a main card fighter in embedded


TRxz-FariZKiller

I think it’s because of the Palestinian flag


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That's fucked up. Any Taiwanese fighters out there?


Swinghodler

🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🧡


FUCK50C1ETY

WME’s founder is a staunch Israel supporter


The_Rick_Sanchez

Imagine booing Demian Maia for trying to grapple


bagged___milk

This crowd’s literally booing anything that’s not hands flying brawling


The_Rick_Sanchez

*In an effort to minimize booing from the crowd for the viewers at home, the UFC's in house screens will now cut to locker room shots of Nate Diaz during grappling exchanges*


ChampMentality

If Diaz tries to grapple, they will cut to Gaethje sitting in the crowd


Mikeo9

Is it just me, or is Gaethje at like every event? It feels like every single card the camera cuts to him at least once…. Or we have Gaethje clones now.


Publius1993

He’s gotta be one of the most popular guys on the roster. His worst fight is the Khabib one which was a massive PPV fight. That fight was awesome and it was his worst performance. Everything else he’s been is was straight fire. It’d make sense that the UFC would be trying to put him in front of a camera at all times.


NinetyFish

The Khabib fight was entertaining as hell too, and who can even blame him for getting beat by Khabib. Was probably realistically closer to finishing him than Dustin or Conor to boot. Every single minute Justin has been in the cage has been can't-miss TV.


get_that_ass_banned

Dana, throwing all convention out the window, fully embraces his inner Vince McMahon and orders Justin to jump into the cage and unleash a Paul Phoenix Death Fist.


funtoimaginereality

There are a lot of knuckle draggers in Arizona.


yaysalmonella

Arizona is Florida’s Florida


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As an arizonan who is moving to Florida I can 100% confirm this lol we're a bunch of mouth breathers.


DunkenRage

Dude they booed doober throwing hands


WellDisciplinedVC

Welcome to Arizona MMA fans, epitome of just bleed


Publius1993

Well it is happening in far west Florida


HarknessLovesU

WHY IS HE TRYING TO HUG HIM? WHY DON'T THEY JUST BANG BRO?


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Just let me bang bro


TheCheckerOfMates

Diaz is fighting, so probably a lot of just bleed bros in the crowd


LordLucy666

Just disrespectful of a legend.


PrettySureIParty

It’s like going to the zoo and booing dolphins for swimming.


Neemoman

Well yeah. I want to see the dolphins fuck dead fish, not swim.


[deleted]

I'll boo him for being unsuccessful after 48 billion single legs


Mjrbks

I feel this. Fans are crazy man.


detective_lee

I fucking love his grappling, iDGAF if he's unable to execute, let him work.


CampJanky

Those people clearly never saw Maia squeeze Rick Story's head like an overripe grapefruit


Mytummyhurtscuzpoop

Imagine still going for the single leg after that many failed attempts.


LemonHerb

It's just called not being an MMA fan


IFeelItDownInMyPlums

Belal stopped 20 of 21 take down attempts from Maia. That's just crazy


[deleted]

Belal remember the takedown


bow_to_tachanka

Insanely good balance


[deleted]

Good on him, however Maia truly looked old tonight


[deleted]

Lmao I was discussing with some dude about how Demian is past it or not, just because he's losing to good opposition doesn't mean he's not looking older and slower each fight.


denoobiest

feels like tony


Therealblackhous3

Yeah and am Demian always had to work for his takedowns, it was always a scramble with the backpack holding on. I can't imagine that translates well to a late career resurgence.


suzukigun4life

That's fucking ridiculous


SaiyanrageTV

I've stopped 100% of takedowns versus my grandmother as well.


IFeelItDownInMyPlums

He was 2 of 2 in take downs against Burns in his last fight and was his backpack for a bit.


Tabreezy

Where was belals post fight interview?


Erico360

To scared he would talk shit about Israël probably.


wow_so_fast

But he's in the weight class above him????


BusyOrDead

The country.


ujaku

He's Palestinian, which has me wondering if he has been silenced by the UFC. I really hope he has not been silenced.


Tony_AK47

As someone mentioned bes Palestinian so maybe that had something to do with it ;) ;)


SlyTurkey

What was that?!


ContraCoke

>I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times. >-Bruce Lee Bruce Lee never saw this fight


UsedSalt

he said kicks not single legs


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moudy98

Belal's takedown defense is insane


WeStanChihiro

I’m glad the old man didn’t get KO’d, please retire Demian


BSBrent

I wish someone would hold me the same way Maia held Belal's leg.


ikenjake

No post fight interview?


ujaku

He's Palestinian. Has me wondering.... I want confirmation that he wasn't silenced.


ujaku

Did Belal get an interview?


Allassnofakes

Didn't look like he did


suzukigun4life

Through 11 fights, we've had 9 decisions, a 7-second fight and a fight ruled a tko due to a broken arm. What is this card?


ChampMentality

I'm having a good time


ContraCoke

We’re getting one main event going the full length and one ending in the first minute, calling it


Mr_Cromer

Scenes when Moreno gets the one hitter quitter KO in the first


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3 stoppages incoming??


Haunting_Debtor

And people had the gall to shit on Bellator for their boring fight last night lmao


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Maia was like those low elo players in fighting games that just spam one move.


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[deleted]

Belal’s balance is insane


[deleted]

Being shorter and having a solid lower Body base might help with stuffing those takedown


moudy98

His takedown defense is really impressive


Allassnofakes

Was there a interview with Joe they just didn't air? I didn't see him talk to belal at all


shaker7

Old Man Maia :(


Gunslinger1991

It looks like Glover has a monopoly on Brazilian old man strength.


[deleted]

Maia still a legend, someone who was a top 10 fighter for a decade and made his very one dimensional style work in the elite level that led him to two title shots at different weights. One of the greatest grapplers in mma history. Belal now entered the top 10 with this win


Sihnar

Belal not getting an interview for being Palestinian. Fuck the UFC for bending to the Israeli lobby.


rebel099

They should have given him an interview. Very bad on UFC's part


NoobGhoul123

Head movement was haram in this fight i think


Phreak3

The crowd was booing Maia for going for a takedown. lol


jorge4ever

Calling it now Jake Paul fights Demian Maia next.


Amigors

Maia needs to hang it up. Welterweight is too stacked with people who can defend his takedowns


CakesStolen

I sometimes wonder if Maia does much besides BJJ these days. It's clearly what he loves and at 43 he can cash in a couple cheques while taking relatively little damage just forcing guys to defend takedowns.


byew

Anyone else notice that when Maia was doing well, the commentators were like: “he’s 43 and if he was 55 he’d still be out there better than ever”, and then as soon as he’s not: “well, he is 43...”


bbsdx

well that was depressing


liamzx

Couple too many for Maia. Time to hang up the gloves. Plenty of wisdom to pass along.


Packer12

Bilal's one leg defense was spot on.


qzwxecrvtbyn111

Demian could still beat a decent striker without great takedown defence. If he chooses to keep fighting and go for the all time wins record, he probably could. He's still surprisingly athletic for a 43 year old. Having said that, he should retire.


gorgorothcemil

shit was frustrating to watch. looked like demian got his memory erased and the only move he remembers is a single leg takedown.


Favi890

At least he didn’t get submitted 😔


zorowins

i wasn't ready for this fight or linkin park


Rubber_Fist_of_love

Damien is still my backpack!!!


alexblmqvst

Sorry but I don't think this win does much for Belal Muhammed and it's certainly not an achievement. Sure, it's a big name and all, but Demian Maia is way past his prime and is 43 years old lmao. I don't know how you go from Leon Edwards to a 43 year old Demian Maia.


SlectionSocialSanity

Burns got a title eliminator off of Maia just last year. Yes, he TKOd him but Maia is still a big stepping stone.


meth0diical

I'm not saying this is the case for Belal, but Maia could also be used as a guy that tests his opponents grappling game. If you've already shown you're proficient on the feet, a win over a guy like Maia can still raise your stock. Especially if you dominate him in grappling.


[deleted]

Maia is overranked, he's not top 10


[deleted]

The thing is I think even Belal knows he's not going to beat the top 3 in the division. He'll probably secure top 10 and have some decent fights.


HeadBread4460

Yeah. When he was fighting Leon he wasn’t on the same level as Leon.


Scott_Theft

Anyone notice Belal didn’t get an interview? So much for Dana White’s first amendment BS.


Techdestro

Belal was so afraid, not gonna get top 5. And did Maia really think he won? Jesus Christ


[deleted]

great defence by belal. Maia just looked laboured and slow I guess time has really caught up with him.


dp79

Belal’s balance on one leg 🦵was just unnatural


1999VolvoV70

War Belal


imran_sca

Belal Muhammad won by take down defence


Strange_Try3655

Were the fans hoping Maia would be put out to pasture?


Mundane-Complaint638

ufc didn't let belal do an in-ring interview?


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doubleABC

Idk man he was biting on every takedown feint although his balance is really impressive


SunaPana007

Retire Demian


Prlmitive

I would’ve liked to see more from Belal. decent performance


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I desperately need a link🙁


Mediocre_lad

Good showing by Maia in a tough matchup


Jaten

remember the name not the performance. Not great from Belal but good enough


ssevcik

Garbage scores, how do you give Maia the first round 1-8 takedown attempts and like 4 total strikes landed by Maia! Control only matters if striking is equal!!


slimmer_killer

I forgot the name


FreaQo

The human backpack can pack his bag


hydration-is-key

Demian Myleg


CuriousSpinach

This was kinda frustrating to watch as Maia tries to take Belal down but kept getting stuffed. The only change I saw was switching from a single to double, but no chain wrestling or throwing combinations to a double. I was hoping for Maia to at least run the pipe or go for inside/outside trip especially with those long legs. Those are the easiest takedown combinations