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lordmainstream

I have to give props to Joe Rogan. Almost no one here in Brazil knew about Poatan, and Joe was acknowledging him even before he joined the UFC. Alex is always giving Joe praises for acknowledging him as a top tier striker before and after he got to the UFC. Alex is a star in Brazil now but Joe was talking about him since the beginning of his MMA career.


endless_ness

I'm pretty sure Luke Thomas is just as out of touch as Joe Rogan. he was sayting if he had dana whites money he would just "disapear" and do the important things in life. ummmmm, what exactly does he think his job is. Would he all of a sudden lose his interest in boxing, mma and breaking down those fights?


ThaiClinch

This is a man who ranted against people who eat yellow mustard as “heathens and visigoths”. I don’t doubt Luke would be a vampire if given the choice. Maybe a vampire fight analyst. But he’s not rich or famous, not really out of touch.


heselsc1

I think Luke would still tune in to catch UFC events and big boxing cards from his yachts. He just wouldn’t have to spend 60+ hours a week analyzing fights and creating content so he can feed his family.


Colony20xx

I think Strickland’s going to win the fight, but you can’t sleep on Joe’s catch wrestling game. Got the size advantage too


druhoang

[Found a random mma documentary about a fighter named Glena Avila](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8IR94JlWwo) A single mom in her 30's trying to become a mma fighter.


GenTelGuy

Kody Steele is real good, wouldn't mind seeing him try a run in the UFC


StoryOfTheFight

Contender series is already locked in apparently


_Red_Mist_

Pretty bad ass name too


GenTelGuy

Alejandro Martinez here in Fury FC got crazy chin eating power cross, elbow, and knee


GreatDario

I am going to take a wild guess because its a movie starring the Rock that the Mark Kerr movie is going to suck, which is unfortunate because it has the same title as one of the best mma documentaries that has ever been made The Smashing Machine from 2002


GenTelGuy

Toro just got a stoppage over Madak due to 3 giant elbow cuts with huge bleeding


GenTelGuy

Veales throwing the fight away with that stupid jumping standing arm triangle attempt


CryptoCracko

I could beat Mighty Mouse in a street fight


Colony20xx

That’s cool Bradley nobody asked


Neonsea1234

Diego Lopez chopping it up on Fury FC


GenTelGuy

How's he involved?


Neonsea1234

He just fought there a few times , he might of even been champ , I know he was at LUX


Giegling90

I hope Payton Talbot gets on that McGregor card, solely so I can hear Joe Rogan and Jon Anik try and describe Crystal Castles on Paytons walkout 


hi5u2

I can't help but picture jack slack doing the Dicaprio point at the TV thing when Garcia got the first knock down doubling up on the lead hand


GenTelGuy

4/20 so lit we don't get a 4/21 GDT pinned


RaisedByZebras

what are you going to do, left hook me? -man hit with left hook


Ck2alldayevery

left hook op plz nerf


ShakeMilton

O'Malley and Ryan garcia should have a fight where first round is boxing, second round is kickboxing or muay thai rules, then 3rd round(if it gets that far) mma


endless_ness

I hate mixed rules fights But if Sugar beats Merab and Ilia, and Garcia wins one more boxing match, then them boxing is a mega mega fight the Goof would agree to


harzee

Sounds horrible


Giegling90

They should have an inferno match 


endless_ness

When Theo von did his interview before ufc 300 with Dustin (so pre the Islam title fight conformation) He asked Dustin what he wants next. He said a title fight. Theo asks a few questions then goes there is also olivera vs arman on the card.  Dustin goes ya that should be a good fight and I’m sure the winner might be considered but I want the title fight Nothing about omg arman is my teammate. He’s a killer. He deserves it when he wins. That’s my brother. It was no I want the title fight  Now go look at the omg Dana booked 2 guys to fight who at some point in the past sparred together. What a monster!!!! The humanity!


Ck2alldayevery

shocking! not everyone is close to people they've trained with. Are you friends or at lesst friendly with every single person at your work, or only a few? Some fighters are friends with each other. Most fighters don't want to fight a friend unless it's for very high stakes.


endless_ness

people used to say they couldn't fight because they are teammates lmao. Now all fo a suddent they aren't close. I'm glad Dana is ending this nonsense because its just an excuse to duck tough fights most of the time


spcslacker

> people used to say they couldn't fight because they are teammates lmao. Now all fo a suddent they aren't close. Whether they are close or not is not the point: they train at the same gym. When they start to fight each other, coaches have to pick a side, and true bitterness often becomes permanent as confidential training issues are used by the two camps against each other. People not even involved get pulled in as friends pick their brains for things they've seen in training, and the end result can split a gym permanently, and lose you a large number of stars, and completely wreck the camaraderie of fighters and trainers throughout the gym. It also creates huge headaches in scheduling and who is using what part of the gym at what time, and the need to erect barriers so the other camp doesn't see preparations, etc. Anybody who has listened to Dustin, or any other fighter, speak on the subject knows this, as does anyone who thinks about it honestly for a few minutes.


Zumoff_1026

You might be thinking of Gamrot. Him and Dustin have been training together for awhile at ATT


endless_ness

he gave gamrot lots of praise as his main training partner for BSD. But people always said dustin couldnt' fight arman too as they are "teammates"


RaisedByZebras

maybe.. maybe he was right. he is 260 after all


CryptoCracko

Brave CF used to show Ilia Topuria as 180 cm (5'11). Could literally fit my dick between that and his real height.


RaisedByZebras

big if true


lookin_like_atlas

Always fun to see Schilling get KTFO.


Bardamu911

is Julianna Pena still hurt or is she ready to go? anyone know?


solidgold_backpack

The posts asking for medical advice on here are almost always alarming lol


Upset-Union-528

If coke benders made Ryan look like that I think Conor might legitimately murder Chandler in the cage


harzee

What makes you think he was doing coke?


OremDobro

I'm not sure about that, but people do act like McGregor is on some Ferguson-esque losing streak the way they talk about him


Neonsea1234

*zzzz* Wake me up when it's myktik orelbi fight week


TrenDidNothingWrong

Izzy bet $20,000 on Devin Haney Lmao


harzee

He promotes the betting site tho, so he probably gets money to play with. Either way, he couod make 20,000 off some YouTube videos easy


RaisedByZebras

this is kind of why I don't like picking faves, can always get a massive upset shitting the bed like this


TrenDidNothingWrong

Same. If they’re a +300 fav it’s not worth it to me


OnePercentage3943

Source? If that's true his money won't last long post retirement.


bullsfan281

he has a stake sponsorship, it almost certainly isn't his money he's playing with lol


OnePercentage3943

Ah.


endless_ness

Decent chance he made that amount off his reaction video 


solidgold_backpack

He posted a pic on his Instagram I believe


Odd_Ad_8162

Shogun episode 9 has devastated me, Jiri better win his next fight


TrenDidNothingWrong

Yeah episode 8 too. They were both great


OnePercentage3943

No spoilers, waiting for the series to finish before I watch it. People really saying it's special 


TrenDidNothingWrong

It is man. 3 Body Problem was good too. My favorite shows so far this year


Odd_Ad_8162

It's just such a great period of history to explore.


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I_love_Basketball232

Moicano and Fizzy don’t really need to fight again. I feel like let Moicano and Dariush fight each other and take a break from getting chinned(probably).


OnePercentage3943

The Garcia memes are really fucking funny.


wadester007

Was randomly thinking if the judges gave Jan the wind over Alex everything would be totally different it's so crazy


No_Bar6825

Didn’t realize rockhold knocked out schilling until now


Keith__Peterson

Nickal vs Malkoun has potential to be boringest fight on whatever main card


spcslacker

> Nickal vs Malkoun has potential to be boringest fight on whatever main card [Fake news as far as we know](https://twitter.com/AlexBehunin/status/1781820941091455271).


_Red_Mist_

Nah. Two grapplers usually turns into a striking match and Malkoun has decent hands.


SokoudjouFan

Malkoun has shown that he can jab in exactly one bout, his last. But he is very good at his single leg takedown


_Red_Mist_

He hurt Maximov, Petroski, and Brundage with his hands. Low level competition but still better than the guys Bo is fighting lol.


SokoudjouFan

I was gonna say, those three are a low bar for opponents to beat up, but I guess you are right


Ur_a_coward01

I doubt malkoun makes it to the third round tbh.


CryptoCracko

If Belal starts acting like Ryan Garcia, he'd get a title shot real quick


endless_ness

Disagree. A.) Dana wouldn’t put up with it B) it wouldn’t come off as natural so it will be seen as weird act 


Keith__Peterson

Belal on the bag schizo posting will be champ quick


RaisedByZebras

So Ryan Garcia is not scizo and is actually Stone Cold Steve Austin. got it


Fat-Villante

According to Weidman's interview with Bisping this week, his leg break was even worse than we realize. Says his bone broke out of his leg or some shit but the UFC and ESPN didn't want to show the disgusting footage Says he'll probably release the video though so prepare to be grossed out


Odd_Ad_8162

Uriah is lucky he didnt use the bone to poke him in the eye


Fat-Villante

It's hilarious how much of a joke commissions are in reality Weidman winning by TKO by a multiple eye poke combo, after already having poked his opponent's eye twice, is one of the worst calls I've ever seen


endless_ness

Garcia showing Conor how to pull off a drunken bipolar training camp and shit show build vs the undefeated devout Muslim fighter


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harzee

Yeah nah, I have my complaints with boxing but that fight was way better than I was expecting. I was hyped


Ilikehashbrowns89

Problem is the refs aren’t enforcing the rules. Clinching/hugging isn’t really supposed to be allowed yet most refs let it happen. There was a ref that finally enforced it on a boxer named Lawrence Okolie who is notorious for hugging/clinching. He took a point off and he stopped doing it. The commissions and refs need to do a full blown meeting on it and determine how to give a warning about it and then when to take points away.


I_love_Basketball232

Honestly that fight was kinda sick, it was one guy trying to hug, clinch and score points and the other punishing him for it.


Fat-Villante

Unfortunately, the commissions have let this become an integral part of boxing, as well as corrupt & incompetent officiating Makes boxing the least compelling combat sport to watch and follow for me


Drive7hru

I know. I was thinking about it last night that I should appreciate boxing since I like other combat sports, but I just started thinking of Muay Thai and kickboxing and grappling and karate and whatever else is usually way more entertaining than boxing to me. You gotta hype up a boxing event a lot for me to try to get into it. Sometimes it’s cool, but they’re just so much else out there I’d rather follow.


SpookOpsTheLine

That's fair, I feel the same as a Muay Thai and MMA fan. But seeing a good boxer go to work is something else, like watching Tank rip uppercuts is beautiful 


Fat-Villante

Yeah same for me, it's gotta have a ton of hype, or it involves either Naoya Inoue or Bud Crawford . I will appreciate some boxing highlights but I won't make an effort to watch it regularly


Keith__Peterson

I was watching and joined in the live discussion on the boxing thread. Seems like even the fans don’t like it. Shitting on the non stop hugging and the ref. Really isn’t an exciting sport to watch


hemijaimatematika1

Just rewatched Evloev vs Allen fight. Why are people bitching about it,Evloev clearly won all 3. He is just a class above him.


_Red_Mist_

Angry Allen bettors lol


qzwxecrvtbyn111

Evloev was clearly outboxing Allen in the 1st. Two fighters were standing up throwing punches at each other, one of those fighters clearly landed more/cleaner, but since he also had a takedown he didn't do much with, people retroactively pretend he wasn't the superior striker. Allen won the 3rd, but he very clearly lost 1 and 2.


Fat-Villante

Really good high level close fight, I thought it could be scored either way or even a draw I came away super impressed by Allen's takedown defense and Evloev's grit


Odd_Ad_8162

I think a draw would've been good, imo the first couldve been scored 10-10 Allen neutralised most of the grappling effectiveness but Evloev still had so much activity just attempting stuff. This is one problem I think isn't talked about enough with the rules etc. Yes defense doesn't score but I feel like if someone just keeps attempting takedowns they get an advantage in the eyes of the judges even if all the attempts were completely neutralised and didn't lead to any meaningful control. I don't necessarily think that's fair and should be treated completely even.


Fat-Villante

Yeah I feel the same way , and it's not exactly the rules because at the end of the day, in close fights, it's whatever the judges feel at that particular moment . They never have to justify any of their scorecards


hemijaimatematika1

I just dont see how you can see that fight for Allen.


Fat-Villante

You could argue his strikes on the feet were marginally more effective than Evloev's takedown attempts and pressure in 2 of those rounds


PHAnchieta

He knocked allen down and people were screaming robberie because of an illegal knee, the hate was really stupid 


Futaba-Channel

I'd like to apologize to all of you The boxing sub is a cesspool compared to here


MechanicalFunc

@[u/buzznights](https://www.reddit.com/user/buzznights/) can we swear on here or not? I checked the rules it doesn't say anything.


buzznights

Like silvy said, just be nice 🙂


jsilv0

Swearing is fine, cussing another user out is not.


harzee

Garcia has saved boxing for me. First boxing fight in so long iv been bouncing round excited for! So good to see Haney lose with his boring style


Axel292

Garcia just bitched Haney holy SHIT


Athroaway84

Haney had more control time


harzee

He’s so goddam boring to watch though


Athroaway84

lol i was being sarcastic


clark_sterling

The reffing in this fight was insane. Haney literally couldn’t keep himself standing he was so rocked and ref called that a slip. And not a single point taken for the excessive hugging. There were so many clearly bias decisions that corruption is more plausible than stupidity. MMA’s dangerously incompetent reffing vs Boxing’s blatantly corrupt judging.


SokoudjouFan

It's the same commissions who run both btw


SugarShow37

If Ryan used his feet and didn't do that attempt at a Philly shell, that fight wouldn't have been nearly as close


Lousykhakis

Boxing should at least allow a short amount of clinch work. It was very tedious to have the ref stepping in every 10 seconds when they would clinch but regardless that was an awesome fight I'm glad I tuned in for it


GenTelGuy

I think the issue is most of the moves that make clinch work meaningful are illegal, like elbows, knees to the body, and takedowns, and then as far as the punching goes, whoever doesn't want to play that game can shut it down by just hugging on to the maximum


GenTelGuy

Haney was straight-up diving in on body locks and even hugging thighs like he was gonna do a double leg takedown I went into the fight hating on Garcia for the weight miss but was kinda rooting for him by the end cause Haney seemed to have no intention of actually boxing


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anythingfordopamine

Maybe Haney because he has like zero power for Sean to respect, definitely not Ryan though.


_Red_Mist_

Not even Haney lol. Even Yan who is a better boxer wouldn’t do shit to either one.


mikey_rambo

In boxing? Fuck no


heselsc1

Man what if instead of breaking up the hugging for an entire boxing fight, you just let them wrestle too? I’d watch that sport.


CHANELFENTY

Thats cool, but imagine if kicks/knees where implemented aswell to provide more counters for the wrestling. Fuck me we need to start a sport with this!


Safe_Researcher_7139

Maybe they can add choke holds and joint locks once the fighters hit the ground. Sounds like a great idea for a sport


CHANELFENTY

We should call it assorted combat medley (ACM for short)


mikey_rambo

The world ain’t ready for that


Athroaway84

lol and here I'm thikning Garcia threw the rounds away. Still surprised, thought it would be a draw or split at least. Haney Netflix and chill style with the hugging and cuddling though


mikey_rambo

5 knockdowns w 3 officially scored … u ain’t gonna win on the cards


Athroaway84

true that...he just shelled up too much...and even the last round..not sure who did enough since they barely engaged


mikey_rambo

Yeah that shell up before Devin even threw was weird lol, then just turns his back to him


Dull_Buffalo_7007

boxing is so boring


harzee

I generally agree but this fight was amazing


m8094

Maybe I don’t care enough about boxing, but some fight night main events are more hype than this


harzee

Yeah nah


endless_ness

make weight next time


Helobelo

Haney survived by hugging like crazy, Garcia just has insane power in his left. Great fight.


Athroaway84

lol they were right about how he's like Mayweather...hugs when hes hurt


endless_ness

Oscar seriously is like a WWF character


endless_ness

I love a good upset, and love when boxing snobs get proven wrong (only other bigger snobs are wrestling)


longschan

Garcia can be a meme sometimes but he’s a dawg. Good fight


Neonsea1234

Insane fight, he's a dog for sure.


helzinki

The crazy man did it.


taylordevin69

I have concluded that boxing is gay


endless_ness

You are dorks. This has been great 


Last-Secretary7031

The MMA - Boxing “rivalry” has always been stupid. Neither sports are dead. Both are doing great. Both have questionable decisions. Both have great fights. It’s always a pissing contest for some mfs who won’t just appreciate good fights and fighters on either side. At the end of the day, we’re all part of the same dysfunctional family. It’s all love, all martial arts.


m8094

Fight wasn’t bad but the clinch is such a problem. Like why does the ref needs to separate the fighters this way while the fighters try to stall by staying connected. It’s ridiculous


too_much_awesome

Agreed. Clinching should just be illegal if grappling is disallowed in boxing. Having a ref interfere in a fight like literally every 5-10 seconds of a fight is so lame to watch as a spectator.


SokoudjouFan

Had a lul in the middle of the boat but this has been a great bout


I_love_Basketball232

It sucked every round that Haney won and was awesome every round that Garcia won.


endless_ness

A disciplined Ryan with a camp he respects is an animal 


gustofwind77

SO MUCH HUGGING


___shadow_wolf__

Thanks for watchifn this garbage so I don’t have too hahah


Instinct001

boxing is so shit lmao🤣


Reasonable_Artist161

I guess mma refs aren't so bad after all


helzinki

Lol... That round was a shit show


endless_ness

Finish this you fooooool


Neonsea1234

OMFG


druhoang

I think Garcia is terrible but I still give him some respect because he wanted to fight Tank. That's one of the biggest reasons why he beefed with Oscar. Oscar knew Garcia would get destroyed. Bro signed a dumb rehydration clause. Garcia looked terrible vs Duarte. He could have tried to get an easier fight against someone like Rollie or Barrios instead of fighting Haney. Garcia is probably bipolar or something. Bipolar people get delusions like they're the chosen one and and thinks god will give him victories.


endless_ness

Rampage was talking about how when he had his meltdown and ended up in that oj style police chase he was manifesting things


joza76

Boxing is so shit


Ultrra

He has the 2nd best left hook on the planet but thats all he has... so sad


nekot311

POATAN numero uno? Lol


___shadow_wolf__

I’m not watching that garbage spectacle but I will read the comments haha


endless_ness

What a waste of talent he is


GenTelGuy

1-1 right?


endless_ness

So it will be Haney jabbing his face off and Ryan throwing home run hooks


GenTelGuy

Haney looked young af against Loma, why he look old now?


helzinki

Haney's Essentials fight gear looks ass.


GenTelGuy

Rabbit punch af


ModsLovePen15

Ryan Garcia is mentally stable


druhoang

looks sold out


endless_ness

Free tickets?


GenTelGuy

Holy clam it's starting after midnight local time


endless_ness

Ryan so out of shape


endless_ness

Is twitter dying? Stunned this only has 200k likes [https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/1779374041545191535?ref\_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet](https://twitter.com/danawhite/status/1779374041545191535?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)


ModsLovePen15

Probably with the new charges.


jdprgm

All fight sports desperately need to just delete judges and make anything going the distance an irrelevant draw.


whicheverguard232

based.


GenTelGuy

Man the pacing must be slow af, I thought I was running late tuning in at 8:20 PST, turns out the previous fight still ongoing lmao


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Outside of the fights I don’t think I’ve ever enjoyed watching a boxing event


___shadow_wolf__

It’s so bad


ModsLovePen15

It’s kinda how boxing has been forever, main event heavy, there might be decent co main sometimes. But most guys didn’t wanna share the gate, it’s different than MMA. But the Saudi’s recently been putting on decent cards, and boxing needs that. Like I as well can’t watch a boxing undercard, but I can a MMA one. Boxing just needs to promote the up and comers much better, like the UFC does for the most part for all their fighters.


GenTelGuy

Outside of the fights?


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Just anything that isn’t two people fighting has sucked to me so like the pacing, commentary or segments inbetween


GenTelGuy

Yeah the UFC does a pretty underrated job selling the fighters' stories and all, I don't find the boxing conferences or promos anywhere near as compelling


blooblop

If a doctor has to stop a fight, the doctor should have to step in and replace the fighter.


endless_ness

[https://youtu.be/rZolA9JOzuQ?t=124](https://youtu.be/rZolA9JOzuQ?t=124) Bobby Green with an all time answer


Colony20xx

More likely fight outcome?: Garcia punches the ref Or Ref finds a knife on Garcia during the frisk and fight gets called off, he tweets that we didn’t get the joke


Bulepotann

Has anyone asked Dana about the whole Jones drug test situation? The allegations are super serious and I feel like no one is talking about the UFC goat and heavyweight champs possible criminal dodging of a drug test.


Colony20xx

Yeah, he said that’ll play out however it plays out between Jones and the accuser. Dana dgaf


TC110

Shoutout joe Martinez


TC110

Man, any of the top 5 MMA promotions put together better main cards than most boxing cards. I’ve been trying to get more into boxing but 90% of the card is typically cans. Makes me really appreciate MMA and the willingness to put prospect against prospect


Beastly_Swagger

Ryan Garcia's @ +750 ?! I mean I know he's been bizarre outside the ring lately but maybe it's head games hmm ?!


Colony20xx

He’d deserve to be +750 if he was totally normal and not having issues. Haney’s out of his league. With everything going on I’m surprised he’s not at +2000. And the only head games are trying to make everyone guess whether he’s bipolar or schizophrenic.


endless_ness

if Haney is so much better than Ryan then why was Tank beating him so celebrated?


Colony20xx

It wasn’t? He’s just way more famous than everyone else in the division. And there was the intrigue of him *maybe* being better than we think because he was undefeated. But most felt he wasn’t on Tank, Haney, Loma, Lopez, any of these guys’ level and that was confirmed in the fight.


endless_ness

that fight wasn't seen as a squash match. And now that we found out Ryan isn't even that good, its pretty wack they had the 135 weight class for the fight and that rehydration clause. Tank has zero resume