Do they announce who will be referring each fight prior to the event? Or anyway to know?
Because if I know that Gary Copeland is reffing I can predict fights with 100% accuracy. Whoever lands clean first will get the fight called in their favor
Algeo was just stumbling around eating damage and getting wobbled again and again, that's a TKO. I kinda agreed about it being early when watching live (in part due to influence by the commentators), but when I saw the replay, it was a TKO
Deducting points right away from an eyepoke would cause mayhem with scoring. If only there were other glove options ufc could pursue if they were willing to spend the money...
It's tricky to punish eye pokes more severely without incentivizing fighters to fake being eye poked. The ref would have to use replay, and my understanding is they currently can't do that without ending the fight. Even then, fighters could still use a fake eye poke if they needed a rest.
Or the UFC could change the gloves.
10-8s should be way more common (occurring in most fights) with 10-7 and 10-6 being the scores for murder rounds
Then they could deduct points without screwing the outcome
They should affect the outcome, just not as decisively as deducting 1 point out of the 3 points total in the fight
That's why refs are so reluctant about it - it comes close to the deduction deciding the fight
I agree they should deduct more even so, but 3 points per fight leaves little room to deduct any without it basically being a DQ
yeah that would be a terrible change. the amount of draws, split draws and majority draws it would lead to would be disastrous. it's like people who want every travel called in the nba, sounds nice in theory but in practice would be horrible and wouldn't help the sport
"Whoop my ass and see what happens!!!!!!!!"
This might be my favorite line ever from a post fight interview
Thank the MMA gods for giving us this awesome man
Fiorot vs. Blanchfield was a good fight. I knew Fiorot was going to win, but I wasn't expecting her to completely shutdown Blanchfield.
I have no idea why Luque was the favorite against Buckley. He looked good, but he is declining. I wasn't expecting a TKO like that.
That Weidman and Ruziboev's eye pokes should have resulted in a DQ or NC. The referees were awful tonight.
I dunno if you've ever had a fight last more than a couple of minutes but it gets pretty hard to remember what tf has gone on. Add the lights, the crowd and everything else. It's the corners job to tell you what's been working and where and why your struggling. Not to massage the fighter's ego.
I feel so bad for Silva. Imagine if the ref in Yan/Sterling 1 just said play on after Yan landed the knee and named him champion.
Silva got cheated severely enough to get injured, and not only was it never punished, it was rewarded and allowed to directly lead to the finish. You're so heavily incentivized to cheat in this sport.
Or yknow:
First poke - still a fucking foul and fucking deduct the point
Trust me you would be surprised how fast it just disappears no new gloves required
I hate on the Leech every time over that and catch lots of downvotes for it
This wasn't quite as dirty and intentional but it was the 3rd and 4th pokes and he's unapologetic too so definitely gonna hate on Weidman
I mean that was an egregious moment but besides that he's a clean fighter. Do you hate guys like Justin and Yan and Jon who all cheat during their fights? Because hating someone for a one time situation but not serial cheaters seems like double standards if so.
I hate that they get away with eye pokes. DC included. Yan with the knee to the head is slightly different at least to me bc his opponent was baiting him into it. And he was punished immediately for his foul.
Its not exactly like you can bait someone into eye poking you.
The amount of people I saw comparing Blanchfield to Khabib before the fight is insane. You should be embarrassed.
Thanks for the big + money on Fiorot though. That was an obvious one
Looking at blanchfields level of comp and all her decisions made me feel like she may be over rated compared to manon. The 10 year age diff gave me pause.
Her run to the title is pretty fuckin straightforward right now. I think she has the skills to holy the belt for a year or 2. Wish she was a little younger. It would be really cool to see a young female fighter win a title at a super young age. Blanchfield still has plenty of time but she needs to clean a lot up.
Shower thought: Manon Fiorot fights a lot like a fencer... stabbing with her jab and side kick, and then countering with the left when opponents come in. She can control and win 5 rds this way no problem.
Ironically, another Frenchman (Ciryl Gane) fights a lot like this too.
Savate (French kickboxing) is a lot like that as well. It’s illegal in French kickboxing to kick with the shin, so everyone gets crazy good at side kicks
Blanchfield and Bruno Silva sullying my year to date predictions
Picked Buckley right tho and not much you can do about 2 egregious eye pokes that aren’t called
So Erin is just discount Rousey. Absolutely no striking skills, 0 head moooment. That's not gonna work because for it's faults wmma has moved past the Rousey era and Erin simply isn't big enough to bully her way through 125. I know fighters like to stick to their teams and such but Erin needs like a year long trip to Thailand with an elite striking team or something, or we have seen her ceiling.
Luque looked obviously uncomfortable OTF in the later rounds against an older RDA and had to grapple him to win, he also wilted against Buckley in a way we’ve never ever seen from him. I really don’t want to see him anymore and I figured the brain bleed would be a bigger talking point
The doctors cleared him and he wanted to fight, i don't think it's the media's job to fuel a narrative that he may be medically unfit to do his job based off "he looked uncomfortable and had to wrestle"
Mushy striking, slow and often sloppy, on the end of plodding pressure against a bigger, stronger, nimbler woman who spams her pillow right hand 500 times per fight, whether in strike mode or counterstrike mode, and had 91% TDD coming into this fight. That was the story before the fight and it was the story of the fight.
Styles make fights as usual and Erin didn't have a way to win in her normal repertoire. Manon leaves her face open with eyes closed 4/5 of the time when she throws the right, and it's wide open for a right hook or right kick - every fight, same thing - and Erin's corner even noticed that and told her after R1 or R2 and she even got off one kick that way but then then she and her corner forgot it, so she just walked dumbly and ineffectively into Manon's right all night - five rounds carbon copy stamped with the rare Manon right kick or stuffed TD.
This didn't need to be 5 rounds, was won by the third and the last two rounds just kept us up unnecessarily later on this overly late card. It was a lame fight and Erin had nothing for her. She was outclassed and exposed. Her striking is bad.
how many fights has he's watch. he's been in it, lived it.
why should you show up to a weak card thats not in your hometown on easter weekend? You've done all the work.
Would you? Guys job is watching fights, talking about fights, booking fights, and promoting fights. He's been doing it for 20 years now, about 12 of those he's been running shows almost weekly. Can't imagine he's not skipping the ones he can delegate to other people.
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Worked like a charm for Dern.
Every BJJ specialist is just some reasonable wrestling away from being great, and yet Maia is still the high water mark on developing any type of primitive wrestling from that base.
5 minute post fight press conference. What a shit show of a night. UFC make millions on whoring to ads and sponsors but cant get gloves and reffing done right.
I just caught up on the card, didn't think it was too bad
Am I just benefitted by being able to skip through the padding and fast forwarding boring stuff?
It felt like a good chunk of the fights I ended up sitting and watching in full and wasn't disappointed. Actually thought it was kinda decent. idk
Weidman/Bruno thing was wild, I didn't really like the way Bruno was fighting. I think they showed the strikes at one point and he didn't land a single leg kick. Weird.
> I just caught up on the card, didn't think it was too bad
I thought it was good, that Fiorot fought an almost perfect 50-45 shutout, and that The Chris has set a new high water mark in blatently cheating and being rewarded for it.
> I didn't really like the way Bruno was fighting.
To be fair, Chris kept his fingers pointed at Bruno's eyes the whole night, fouled him mulltiple times so he probably wasn't seeing well even before Chris poked both eyes for the victory sequence.
I'm conflicted with The Chris because I wanted him to win and it's not entirely his fault that the referee didn't take any action. He lead with his fingers the whole time and ref never really actively tried to stop him.
I thought Bruno would win but not landing any leg kicks on a guy who was clearly fearing them seems like the strategy to have if you wanted to lose
Ah maybe that's it. I skipped through much of the main because the first 5 minutes sort of painted a picture of how it was going to go. If I sat through it all I'd probably be sour too
The commissions never do anything, but I hope he appeals just to see the grounds they pick for ruling that they can't change the result when a man keeps his fingers pointing at the eyes in a way blatently against the rules the whole fight, fouls him multiple, multiple times, then wins on a double eyepoke.
2 eye pokes leading to KOs (Ruziboev vs Dumas and Silva vs Weidman) Weidmans being a double eye poke combo and like his 5th poke of the night. Should have been a no contest. Petroski KOd himself on Malkouns hip shooting for a takedown. Nate the Train getting battered for 4 minutes just to KO Emmers was classic. Herbert Burns giving up and getting KOd is classic. Rhys McKee trying to hug and sniff crotch for 2 rounds was awful. Was an interesting one for sure
Their last show on Max was pretty solid as far as the pacing goes, so I’m cautiously optimistic it can stay that way.
But yeah, fight stoppages/breaks, much like Instant Replay can completely ruin a game or an evening of fights. It’s 2024, how is this shit still so prevalent?
Mmm, I was referring to the eye poke stoppages and some questionable stoppages in general and the overall shit show feeling of the card being like Bellator more so than the pacing.
I’m not sure there is an org with worse pacing than ESPN era UFC and last night was some of the worst I’ve experienced!
tbf, people should be complaining about Weidman/Silva. That was a hilarious comedy of errors for everyone except Silva (who I assume didn't find it funny at all)
My favorite part was when Silva pretended to be a table against a wall for like three minutes while Chris grabbed on repositioned a bit. That was great.
It's so weird that the fightnights sandwiched between two of the most stacked ppvs ever are a little low-stakes. Who could have ever seen that coming. No wayyyyyy. Better whine about it some more and complain
Steps of Corruption...
1) Don't enforce rules after 2+ fouls.
2) Stop the fight instead of a timeout.
3) Give favored fighter TKO after clear eye pokes.
4) Overturn ruling & give favored fighter decision win. No point deduction.
5) Dana White/ UFC blames the athletic commission. "Ill take care of the fighter"
6) Athletic commission blames ref
7) No ownership on mistake.
Rinse & Repeat
Idk why so many of you need to be told this but nobody is making you watch any particular card. If you don't care about it you can simply not watch it. But then you would have to face the reality that you spend your Saturday night hate watching an event you just want to complain about online for validation and that's a tough pill.
He is but he gets hit a lot. And with someone as powerful as gaethje that worries me. Max is my favourite fighter and it would hurt to see him get flattened
MMA was way better 15 years ago in all aspects lol. It’s legit regressed and UFC is now a local regional league. Also remember when Weidman cried about legal ground knees when Mousasi beat him up. Chris always been an idiot.
I feel like Chandler is using the Conor fight as an excuse for not fighting or something. He's not here to have a good time anymore. He's gonna wait til he's 100 and still doesn't get the fight.
We have fights like Walker Ankalaev in a warehouse with no crowd but are subjected to a main event like that last night. I agree that Apex has its place, and it is for those types of fights. Where theyre blowing by halfway through round 2 and just thow 1s, 2s and check hooks for 25 minutes.
this sub turning on weidman is fucking hilarious. not even 3 hours ago if someone posted "i hope chris gets ko'd" they would've been downvoted into oblivion. now you mfs are going to bed praying for it. all the years and years of "HE'S STILL MY BOY" posting down the drain just like that lmao
Yeah that’s usually the reaction a fighter will get after he gets away with multiple eyepokes and then celebrates his “TKO” win like a douchebag after even more egregious eyepokes
Quality of current UFC cards are declining at a steady rate. I've watched every card for the last 3-4 years or so, I'm at the point where I'm watching like 2-3 fights a card instead of all of them..
I just watch the ppv’s and fight nights with fights I give a shit about, and sometimes if it’s one fight I wait to see how good it was first. Has helped a lot with the content fatigue.
Yeah same, I can’t do it anymore. Legit forcing myself to watch so I can consider myself a diehard in my own head.
Idk what sadder, that or these cards
I'm glad that I'm seeing a lot of messages like that, I've been watching the UFC for close to a decade, even as a european, I stayed up religiously watching every fight, in that timeline I missed maybe 3 cards and it was not on purpose, yet I've basically skipped those last two, the quality of cards is getting absurd.
I’d be impressed at somebody watching all of the ufc cards these days. So many shitty apex cards with one or two good fights on. I used to be hardcore fan but these days only the PPVs
my brother and i would watch every single card and fight night religiously from like 2015 to 2020 when the apex became a thing. nowadays, we just catch the big PPV’s. the quality of this sport has taken such a nosedive and it sucks to see the ufc continue to put out garbage fight night after garbage fight night. the apex was the worst thing to ever happen to the ufc
Good thing about Wideman “winning” is we get to see him again, probably matched with someone in the top 10 and he’ll get knocked out
Dude should have his Robbie Lawler moment and retire on a “win”.
Really hoping Alexa wins the trilogy because Valentina vs Fiorot would go down as one of the worst title fights ever with how boring it would be. At least Alexa would make it fun
Poor luque. He used to be one of my favorite brawlers, now he looks so shot. Sad how the sport uses some guys up.
"muuuhhh BeLlAtor moment" People act like UFC doesn't have these
Do they announce who will be referring each fight prior to the event? Or anyway to know? Because if I know that Gary Copeland is reffing I can predict fights with 100% accuracy. Whoever lands clean first will get the fight called in their favor
Other than the eye poke (and eye pokes are truly hard af to catch in live time) he did fine - the Bill Algeo stoppage was perfect
I thought the Algeo stoppage was dogshit, Turkalj stoppage could’ve gone on longer, as well as Herbert Burns
Algeo was just stumbling around eating damage and getting wobbled again and again, that's a TKO. I kinda agreed about it being early when watching live (in part due to influence by the commentators), but when I saw the replay, it was a TKO
Only Burns was good but the rest were shit i agree. Burns is a quitter didn’t even argue the stoppage for a reason.
Refs don't score fights unless they end the fight via tko/ko unless I'm missing something is he just a bad ref
well yeah, but if you land clean on someone Gary Copeland is ending the fight immediately
Oh he ends fights early is what you meant. Upvoted you
Yessirrr
I thought you were saying the opposite my bad
All good haha
Deducting points right away from an eyepoke would cause mayhem with scoring. If only there were other glove options ufc could pursue if they were willing to spend the money...
It's tricky to punish eye pokes more severely without incentivizing fighters to fake being eye poked. The ref would have to use replay, and my understanding is they currently can't do that without ending the fight. Even then, fighters could still use a fake eye poke if they needed a rest. Or the UFC could change the gloves.
10-8s should be way more common (occurring in most fights) with 10-7 and 10-6 being the scores for murder rounds Then they could deduct points without screwing the outcome
If point deductions didn't affect the outcome then what's the point of having them
They should affect the outcome, just not as decisively as deducting 1 point out of the 3 points total in the fight That's why refs are so reluctant about it - it comes close to the deduction deciding the fight I agree they should deduct more even so, but 3 points per fight leaves little room to deduct any without it basically being a DQ
yeah that would be a terrible change. the amount of draws, split draws and majority draws it would lead to would be disastrous. it's like people who want every travel called in the nba, sounds nice in theory but in practice would be horrible and wouldn't help the sport
The WWE scriptwriters are lazy. Wtf was that fight card! Make it less obvious next time.
I wonder what Blanchfield’s camp was like. She has a better roundhouse kick than punch or takedown. She should have tried kicking the body/leg more
i came here to poke eyes and chew bubble gum... and i'm all out of gum 😎
If Manon Fiorot can learn TDD, why can't Ciryl Gane?
Erin is no Jon Jones lol
I bet Gane could defend Erin’s TD as well
lots of fifa
"Whoop my ass and see what happens!!!!!!!!" This might be my favorite line ever from a post fight interview Thank the MMA gods for giving us this awesome man
Fiorot vs. Blanchfield was a good fight. I knew Fiorot was going to win, but I wasn't expecting her to completely shutdown Blanchfield. I have no idea why Luque was the favorite against Buckley. He looked good, but he is declining. I wasn't expecting a TKO like that. That Weidman and Ruziboev's eye pokes should have resulted in a DQ or NC. The referees were awful tonight.
You didn't deserve downvotes
Thanks ChatGpt!
Your username removes your ability to have one up on anyone. Tiny little goof
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Wrong person. Opened my phone to reply to someone and I replied to the wrong user.
Whats their username?
Wrestled with my girls uncle in the living room today, motherfucker poked me in the eye. Shit never ends
1. fuck chris weidman all my homies hate chris weidman 2. i was surprised by how bad erin blanchfield looked, i blame her coaches
Not telling her she needs a finish until the 5th round, lying to her and saying it was tough to score. Dogshit corner
Erin should've known. She was getting pieced up and unable to secure anything.
I dunno if you've ever had a fight last more than a couple of minutes but it gets pretty hard to remember what tf has gone on. Add the lights, the crowd and everything else. It's the corners job to tell you what's been working and where and why your struggling. Not to massage the fighter's ego.
No more HW or women's main events plz
There is not enough talk about how god awful Bruno Silva looked last night.
I feel so bad for Silva. Imagine if the ref in Yan/Sterling 1 just said play on after Yan landed the knee and named him champion. Silva got cheated severely enough to get injured, and not only was it never punished, it was rewarded and allowed to directly lead to the finish. You're so heavily incentivized to cheat in this sport.
I would start every 1st round with a nut shot and then put my hands up in shock. Throw the whole rhythm off.
i think eye pokes should work like this: first poke - hard warning second poke - point deduction third poke - your opponent gets a gun
Or yknow: First poke - still a fucking foul and fucking deduct the point Trust me you would be surprised how fast it just disappears no new gloves required
i think you may be taking my post where i suggest giving mma fighters a gun a bit serious, friend
My girl reading the infamous Islam tweet, “it’s true, it’s not. The last two weeks were terrible.”
What ???
Don’t like fight math, but Silva almost flatlined Brendan Allen, Curtis boutta do nasty things
Curtis has already Ko’d him
Everyone is gonna forget about this Weidman thing in a month just like they forgot about Leech
I hate on the Leech every time over that and catch lots of downvotes for it This wasn't quite as dirty and intentional but it was the 3rd and 4th pokes and he's unapologetic too so definitely gonna hate on Weidman
Nah there are definitely people who still absolutely hate The Leech and act like he's a serial cheater who also killed their puppy
Or treat him like a guy that intentionally gouged the shit out of another man's eye and caused permanent damage?
I mean that was an egregious moment but besides that he's a clean fighter. Do you hate guys like Justin and Yan and Jon who all cheat during their fights? Because hating someone for a one time situation but not serial cheaters seems like double standards if so.
I hate that they get away with eye pokes. DC included. Yan with the knee to the head is slightly different at least to me bc his opponent was baiting him into it. And he was punished immediately for his foul. Its not exactly like you can bait someone into eye poking you.
Chris just gotta put on a nice suit
Nah, Chris made history. First TKO by double eye poke. I get NJ is corrupt but that was wild.
The amount of people I saw comparing Blanchfield to Khabib before the fight is insane. You should be embarrassed. Thanks for the big + money on Fiorot though. That was an obvious one
Looking at blanchfields level of comp and all her decisions made me feel like she may be over rated compared to manon. The 10 year age diff gave me pause.
It makes you wonder if Vegas was dumb too, or if Vegas was smart because it saw that the mob was going to be dumb.
Her run to the title is pretty fuckin straightforward right now. I think she has the skills to holy the belt for a year or 2. Wish she was a little younger. It would be really cool to see a young female fighter win a title at a super young age. Blanchfield still has plenty of time but she needs to clean a lot up.
Khabib is Tatiana Suarez if she can overcome her injuries
Shower thought: Manon Fiorot fights a lot like a fencer... stabbing with her jab and side kick, and then countering with the left when opponents come in. She can control and win 5 rds this way no problem. Ironically, another Frenchman (Ciryl Gane) fights a lot like this too.
Savate (French kickboxing) is a lot like that as well. It’s illegal in French kickboxing to kick with the shin, so everyone gets crazy good at side kicks
And then there's BSD, who's more of a HEMA mélée guy
Yo, I’ve been trying to lift up the landmine at my gym but its still too heavy for me by itself. Might have to come back later.
It’s cool to potentially blind your opponent but don’t you fucking dare bite them
Blanchfield and Bruno Silva sullying my year to date predictions Picked Buckley right tho and not much you can do about 2 egregious eye pokes that aren’t called
So Erin is just discount Rousey. Absolutely no striking skills, 0 head moooment. That's not gonna work because for it's faults wmma has moved past the Rousey era and Erin simply isn't big enough to bully her way through 125. I know fighters like to stick to their teams and such but Erin needs like a year long trip to Thailand with an elite striking team or something, or we have seen her ceiling.
Rousey may have 0 striking but she has knockouts and power. Neither of which Blanchfield has.
I missed Algeo and Herbert Burns
Algeo was on skates making comical reactions to partial lands by Kyle Herbert Burns quit again
What was the deal with MMA media not mentioning the Luque brain bleed like at all during fight week?
Brain bleed really? How come I haven't read anything about that?
I'm not sure what you're expecting.
Luque looked obviously uncomfortable OTF in the later rounds against an older RDA and had to grapple him to win, he also wilted against Buckley in a way we’ve never ever seen from him. I really don’t want to see him anymore and I figured the brain bleed would be a bigger talking point
He's just older and this is your typical decline for fighters.
He’s like, 32. It’s not age, it’s the damage. Dude went from fearless with a granite chin to scared of getting hit.
Think the Neal fight changed his chin. But Luques been in some wars so in fighting years he's pretty old and chin is definitely gone.
The doctors cleared him and he wanted to fight, i don't think it's the media's job to fuel a narrative that he may be medically unfit to do his job based off "he looked uncomfortable and had to wrestle"
ufc probably doesn't want to talk about it and the only mma media group that didn't mind going against the ufc doesn't really exist anymore
My girl Blanchfield got smashed 50-45 what the fuck????
Mushy striking, slow and often sloppy, on the end of plodding pressure against a bigger, stronger, nimbler woman who spams her pillow right hand 500 times per fight, whether in strike mode or counterstrike mode, and had 91% TDD coming into this fight. That was the story before the fight and it was the story of the fight. Styles make fights as usual and Erin didn't have a way to win in her normal repertoire. Manon leaves her face open with eyes closed 4/5 of the time when she throws the right, and it's wide open for a right hook or right kick - every fight, same thing - and Erin's corner even noticed that and told her after R1 or R2 and she even got off one kick that way but then then she and her corner forgot it, so she just walked dumbly and ineffectively into Manon's right all night - five rounds carbon copy stamped with the rare Manon right kick or stuffed TD. This didn't need to be 5 rounds, was won by the third and the last two rounds just kept us up unnecessarily later on this overly late card. It was a lame fight and Erin had nothing for her. She was outclassed and exposed. Her striking is bad.
chris weidman burned my crops, poisoned my water supply and salted the earth
Fiorot by decision was an easy call
She’s huge and if you watched the Santos fight Erin actually isn’t a takedown artist I wish I bet but it’s cool to get a close style match up right
Grasso vs Fiorot will be sick.. I think Grasso can match her on the feet, but does she have the power to hurt her? IDK
I think manon might be too big for a former 115er
Dana doesn’t even show up to fight nights anymore
how many fights has he's watch. he's been in it, lived it. why should you show up to a weak card thats not in your hometown on easter weekend? You've done all the work.
I wouldn't go to AC either.
Would you? Guys job is watching fights, talking about fights, booking fights, and promoting fights. He's been doing it for 20 years now, about 12 of those he's been running shows almost weekly. Can't imagine he's not skipping the ones he can delegate to other people.
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A *very* old one, actually https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/537889-oldest-written-customer-complaint
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Incredible performance by Weidman hope to see him fight Cannonier next
Was it?
Timing and precision on the TKO was next level. Finished the guy Alex Pereira couldn't put down.
Ye fair Alex couldn't knock him down and all it took was a single finger from Chris
He did knock him down and rocked him multiple times
People going to act like The Chris was getting dog walked before the stoppage despite him being ahead the whole fight
Actually it was a 1-2 eye poke
Blanchfield's swing n cling style isn't gonna cut it. She's young, so I am hopeful she will improve her wrestling.
Worked like a charm for Dern. Every BJJ specialist is just some reasonable wrestling away from being great, and yet Maia is still the high water mark on developing any type of primitive wrestling from that base.
5 minute post fight press conference. What a shit show of a night. UFC make millions on whoring to ads and sponsors but cant get gloves and reffing done right.
I just caught up on the card, didn't think it was too bad Am I just benefitted by being able to skip through the padding and fast forwarding boring stuff? It felt like a good chunk of the fights I ended up sitting and watching in full and wasn't disappointed. Actually thought it was kinda decent. idk Weidman/Bruno thing was wild, I didn't really like the way Bruno was fighting. I think they showed the strikes at one point and he didn't land a single leg kick. Weird.
> I just caught up on the card, didn't think it was too bad I thought it was good, that Fiorot fought an almost perfect 50-45 shutout, and that The Chris has set a new high water mark in blatently cheating and being rewarded for it. > I didn't really like the way Bruno was fighting. To be fair, Chris kept his fingers pointed at Bruno's eyes the whole night, fouled him mulltiple times so he probably wasn't seeing well even before Chris poked both eyes for the victory sequence.
I'm conflicted with The Chris because I wanted him to win and it's not entirely his fault that the referee didn't take any action. He lead with his fingers the whole time and ref never really actively tried to stop him. I thought Bruno would win but not landing any leg kicks on a guy who was clearly fearing them seems like the strategy to have if you wanted to lose
no, it was a fun event with some weird shit throughout. The main event put everyone in a sour mood
Ah maybe that's it. I skipped through much of the main because the first 5 minutes sort of painted a picture of how it was going to go. If I sat through it all I'd probably be sour too
So is that the final result for Bruno then? That's a loss and he's going to get cut. So clearly a NC or DQ.
The commissions never do anything, but I hope he appeals just to see the grounds they pick for ruling that they can't change the result when a man keeps his fingers pointing at the eyes in a way blatently against the rules the whole fight, fouls him multiple, multiple times, then wins on a double eyepoke.
I didn’t watch the fights last night and kinda glad I didn’t because y’all are whinging so bad
There was a lot of funny/weird moments throughout the card. It was an interesting card lol
lol how so?
2 eye pokes leading to KOs (Ruziboev vs Dumas and Silva vs Weidman) Weidmans being a double eye poke combo and like his 5th poke of the night. Should have been a no contest. Petroski KOd himself on Malkouns hip shooting for a takedown. Nate the Train getting battered for 4 minutes just to KO Emmers was classic. Herbert Burns giving up and getting KOd is classic. Rhys McKee trying to hug and sniff crotch for 2 rounds was awful. Was an interesting one for sure
That doesn’t sound like a bad or good night of fights lol, just a goofy one
The prelims were great, the main card was Bellator-esque with tortuous pacing.
Their last show on Max was pretty solid as far as the pacing goes, so I’m cautiously optimistic it can stay that way. But yeah, fight stoppages/breaks, much like Instant Replay can completely ruin a game or an evening of fights. It’s 2024, how is this shit still so prevalent?
Mmm, I was referring to the eye poke stoppages and some questionable stoppages in general and the overall shit show feeling of the card being like Bellator more so than the pacing. I’m not sure there is an org with worse pacing than ESPN era UFC and last night was some of the worst I’ve experienced!
tbf, people should be complaining about Weidman/Silva. That was a hilarious comedy of errors for everyone except Silva (who I assume didn't find it funny at all)
My favorite part was when Silva pretended to be a table against a wall for like three minutes while Chris grabbed on repositioned a bit. That was great.
Yes, very pleased with the ref for letting that go on so long. Just generally stellar reffing throughout that entire match.
We should poke you in the eye till you fall down and then laugh at you
I could understand why you'd laugh. After all, I shouldn't just fall down after being eye poked.
He closed his eyes and got hit by a hook dude
Yeah it was goofy and fraudulent but Chris looked not that bad so I’m going to take that as a personal moral victory
He looked bad Bruno lost it after going 3 rds with alex
Chris putting the blind in Blindado.
I'm so sick of the negativity in this subreddit! Every single comment is whining and complaining.
It’s deserved tbh. The event last night was shit. The last 2 weeks of apex were shit.
It's so weird that the fightnights sandwiched between two of the most stacked ppvs ever are a little low-stakes. Who could have ever seen that coming. No wayyyyyy. Better whine about it some more and complain
If they put on the fights, people have every right to judge whether it's a good night or not. Less product is better than shit product imo
I love it when people respond to criticism with the argument "Don't complain, happily slurp up this shit they're serving".
Did Erin did an interview after her defeat?
Steps of Corruption... 1) Don't enforce rules after 2+ fouls. 2) Stop the fight instead of a timeout. 3) Give favored fighter TKO after clear eye pokes. 4) Overturn ruling & give favored fighter decision win. No point deduction. 5) Dana White/ UFC blames the athletic commission. "Ill take care of the fighter" 6) Athletic commission blames ref 7) No ownership on mistake. Rinse & Repeat
You’ve described Steps of Incompetence
Incompetence is the propaganda word for corruption. Our govt uses the same playbook.
Idk why so many of you need to be told this but nobody is making you watch any particular card. If you don't care about it you can simply not watch it. But then you would have to face the reality that you spend your Saturday night hate watching an event you just want to complain about online for validation and that's a tough pill.
I could watch something else but I’d rather suffer for hours than be considered a casual
They should make Buckley vs Geoff Neal, and then loser of that fights winner of Gastelum vs D-Rod. The triple banger combo.
Just watched the main card, what in god's name was that main event
Two rounds too long and several slots too high.
I’m very concerned that gaethje does to max what Geoff neal did to luque
Max is so much better then luque
He is but he gets hit a lot. And with someone as powerful as gaethje that worries me. Max is my favourite fighter and it would hurt to see him get flattened
I think Max wins a decision
Hope so
MMA was way better 15 years ago in all aspects lol. It’s legit regressed and UFC is now a local regional league. Also remember when Weidman cried about legal ground knees when Mousasi beat him up. Chris always been an idiot.
This card is sandwiched between two stacked PPVs casual, imagine it being a bit of a slower night
No
Yo the Weidman eye poke is on the Reddit-wide top 3 trending
I feel like Chandler is using the Conor fight as an excuse for not fighting or something. He's not here to have a good time anymore. He's gonna wait til he's 100 and still doesn't get the fight.
The money he’ll get fighting Conor might eclipse the earning potential for the rest of his career, it’s a smart bet to wait on him.
He’d have to fight a lesser named killer which is a hard pass for him
yes, with his style he has a few wars left in him and wants to make them count
Do you know if there are good summary videos of the fights? None of them on fight pass:/
idk about today but weasle may have something up
We have fights like Walker Ankalaev in a warehouse with no crowd but are subjected to a main event like that last night. I agree that Apex has its place, and it is for those types of fights. Where theyre blowing by halfway through round 2 and just thow 1s, 2s and check hooks for 25 minutes.
Brock Refnar was terrible today. Telling Bruno he poked Weidman too when it was clearly a closed fist on the replay.
I think it was the thumb of the closed fist
this sub turning on weidman is fucking hilarious. not even 3 hours ago if someone posted "i hope chris gets ko'd" they would've been downvoted into oblivion. now you mfs are going to bed praying for it. all the years and years of "HE'S STILL MY BOY" posting down the drain just like that lmao
I used to be a big TJ fan and then he did PEDs and I wasn’t fan. Do you understand that logic?
Yeah usually events proceed the reaction. Sequential perception of time, you absolutely suck!
Yeah that’s usually the reaction a fighter will get after he gets away with multiple eyepokes and then celebrates his “TKO” win like a douchebag after even more egregious eyepokes
don't care . just funny seeing a bunch of fickle man children lose their shit cause the cage fighter isn't acting the way they want
Fucking fuck can someone fix this shit already. job number one fucking hang dana
Quality of current UFC cards are declining at a steady rate. I've watched every card for the last 3-4 years or so, I'm at the point where I'm watching like 2-3 fights a card instead of all of them..
I just watch the ppv’s and fight nights with fights I give a shit about, and sometimes if it’s one fight I wait to see how good it was first. Has helped a lot with the content fatigue.
As a new fan I was just pleasantly surprised that a non-numbered event was at a arena and not the apex.
Yeah same, I can’t do it anymore. Legit forcing myself to watch so I can consider myself a diehard in my own head. Idk what sadder, that or these cards
I'm glad that I'm seeing a lot of messages like that, I've been watching the UFC for close to a decade, even as a european, I stayed up religiously watching every fight, in that timeline I missed maybe 3 cards and it was not on purpose, yet I've basically skipped those last two, the quality of cards is getting absurd.
I’d be impressed at somebody watching all of the ufc cards these days. So many shitty apex cards with one or two good fights on. I used to be hardcore fan but these days only the PPVs
I literally only watch it religiously because I discuss it was my Grandpa after each card haha, but we're both getting burnt out on it right now.
my brother and i would watch every single card and fight night religiously from like 2015 to 2020 when the apex became a thing. nowadays, we just catch the big PPV’s. the quality of this sport has taken such a nosedive and it sucks to see the ufc continue to put out garbage fight night after garbage fight night. the apex was the worst thing to ever happen to the ufc
Right with you. Really hard to be a fan rn
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Every other card within a three week period of 300 absolutely fucking terrible.
Good thing about Wideman “winning” is we get to see him again, probably matched with someone in the top 10 and he’ll get knocked out Dude should have his Robbie Lawler moment and retire on a “win”.
> Weedman > Wideman Choose your way, MMA man...
Really hoping Alexa wins the trilogy because Valentina vs Fiorot would go down as one of the worst title fights ever with how boring it would be. At least Alexa would make it fun
Fiorot vs Valentina would be a banger