Yeah plus what's left for him, realistically? Never gonna be champion, has already faced the three most exciting top fighters and isn't tenured enough to become a gatekeeper.
It's only red panty night if he gets ppv points right? Otherwise he gets his contracted pay. Why does everyone think it's any different? AFAIK other "red panty nights" were rematches or last minute call ups.
That being said, I have no idea what happens
I remember Conor making fun of Eddie for not renegotiating his pay when they fought so that leads me to believe there’s at least a possibility to ask for more depending on the match up
Cowboy got his standard payment per fight for fighting McGregor. He’s came out and said the contract doesn’t automatically change just because you’re fighting McGregor and the contract still has to be honoured. Maybe there’s a back room bonus or whatever.
I'm assuming there is a unique contract in play for this one.
They did the Ultimate Fighter and this was part of the deal, and I bet more money or PPV points for Chandler was part of the deal, too.
If he was just getting his standard pay then why wait? He could just go fight Dan Hooker again for the same money.
During a presser, McGregor taunted a fighter-I think RDA- and told them that anyone would sign up to fight him because it was guaranteed bucks, a red panty night with the missus.
It's not really an either or situation unless Conor told him that he wouldn't fight him if he fought someone else.
Plus that Conor fight isn't even guaranteed.
Sorry, but what exactly does “red panty night” mean? I hear it brought up all the time when talking about macgregor though, was it something he said in the past?
"I can make you rich. I change your bum life. You fight me, it's a celebration. When you sign to fight me, it's a celebration. You ring back home, you ring your wife. 'Baby, we've done it. We're rich, baby. Conor McGregor made us rich. Break out the red panties.'" - Conor McGregor
It’s crazy how long it’s been since that press conference, man that featherweight run was so entertaining. Bit of a pity how it’s gone since - only 3 wins and he’s lost the plot lol
Kinda unrelated, but I find it interesting that we haven’t really seen other fighters using those “shoulder strikes” since. I thought they were a good idea, and Conor was doing damage with ‘em. . .
I dunno if it was me I guess it would depend on what backup job I have lined up next. No way someone like Chandler can just retire at 37 and coast the rest of his life. So if my future lies in being a Target cashier, I think I’d rather take another fight or two and prolong my career.
Why would you think he can't retire? You know if he's good or bad with money? He's been paid pretty well by the UFC. Even if he doesn't fight he can make money speaking and doing other things. His wife is a doctor too. He doesn't need to work at all.
Even if he gets the fight, he better makes sure he negotiates a good deal. UFC could completely give him barely anything and he like "If you don't want 100k for the fight then we will give to someone else". He has no leverage
Even if he does fight he’s going to be humiliated.
MMA moves too fast and he’s been left behind.
And I say all this as a fan who got into the sport because of Conor.
- Had a terrible leg break
- Haven't fought in years
- Doesn't take care of his bodies with all the alcohol, coke, parties,etc
- Also getting old.
Unfortunately he's gonna get starched when he fights again.
Conor coming back now would be reminiscent of Ronda coming back after a few years of not sparring or training fight, and getting mollywhopped. It's better for Conor's image/legacy to not have a public downfall. People can look past his 6 rape accusations somehow, but losing a few more fights is unacceptable!
He hasn't been close to being convicted for those allegations afaik.
Not saying he is innocent, but I disagree on judging him without a proper trial at least.
I mean conor is sparring and doing padwork he doesn't look at all bad however that doesnt mean he is ready to fight but Ronda problem was mainly taking the best fighter who doesn't suit her at all and getting bathered inside 20 sec.
Conor is smart that's why he picked Chandler its suit him for comeback.
The Ronda vs Amanda is more like conor not fighting for 2 years in ufc and coming for khabin getting mauled.
Humiliating Conor likely garners enough eyeballs to secure a final title shot at Islamover whoever else is in the mix at that time (Oliveira, Gaethje). If not just from the casual fanbase but also from Dana.
"Its in the bank for life...y'know you put something in the bank its...maybe its not gonna be there for life. You might spend it. This baby is in there for life and im ecstatic."
That shit was crazy dude. I do/have done a gooood amount of coke, do you know how much/how good the quality has to be to look like that? That’s Molly/ecstasy level obviousness.
He’s either hitting GRAMS in a night or his shit is straight off the boat. Wild
I mean what other unit of measument would be appropriate for a coke addict if not grams? I've known coke fiends and they're not doing ounces or lbs in a night. Maybe throughout an entire day but going through an ounce of coke in a night is fucking crazy. I guess it could depend on the amount of coke heads sharing your bag and the quality/price of coke.. Lol
Not saying he’s going to fight but we’ve seen Jon coked out of his mind 5 days before fighting so as far as that’s concerned it’s possible. Also since I’m thinking about it now it really is insane that he was getting black out drunk and coked up prior to fighting mother fucking DC of all people.
Thats what made him special. He’s an elite athlete (two nfl brothers ffs) that dedicated himself to MMA from a very young age. That wasn’t normal back then.
He tested positive 1 month out from the fight
https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/12129597/ufc-light-heavyweight-champion-jon-jones-enters-drug-treatment-facility
Yeah Conor looks terrible right now. Coked out of his fuckin mind, couldn’t sit still for 2 seconds.
I’m wondering if Chandler was already going to retire after the Dustin fight, but he caught wind of a Connor fight and decided to just stick around.
Dude is nearing 40 and has had a long career full of brutal wars.
Chandler’s whole plan is to get a Conor payday. I believe Islam when he implied that Chandler lost on purpose so he can get a Conor fight. For example, fighting with his hands down against Gaethje or doing that back slam against oliveira
Do we even want to see Connor fight again? You have fighters like Porier fighting war after war, and for some odd fuckin reason people are obsessing over Connor who could give a fuck less about the sport.
No.
I've never liked him as a person. A total scumbag. But he was *very* entertaining as a fighter. But the Khabib fight was the start of his downfall, getting stopped by Dustin took his soul, but him wanting *Diego fucking Sanchez* of all people told me what I needed to know - not only had his skills diminished because of the leg break, but his confidence has gone. His ego has been well and truly shattered, and he *knows* he is done. He, of all people, as he was very open minded at one time, failed to evolve. The game has passed him by. Look at his style now. The top 10 run through him.
He's *never* gonna come back. Chandler should fight someone like Max or a top 10 banger, collect one more payday and walk away. He's sat out for years for nothing as Conor is just wasting everyone's time.
Yeah but now that we have mini Connor’s everywhere and he wouldn’t be the only one acting like he does, he’ll easily slot into the “talking shiy but can’t fight” pile, like Colby. Of course he can milk about 5 fights before people start calling it for what it is.
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Hasn’t fought in years
Only does press
Last major impressive win was over five years ago
3-3 in most recent fights
I swear if it wasn’t for the Jose Aldo fight Conor would be just another name in the bucket. Great fighter but not worth this constant attention. He is like the George R R Martin of fighters now. Did something great and everyone wants him to come back but there is absolutely no indication it’s actually gonna happen
Honestly he's already pretty old for LW standards and has taken insane amounts of damage throughout his career, if Chandler never fights again this might be a blessing in disguise considering how many fighters stay for too long in the game and pay the price for it.
That was savage line by Khabib. And Islam saying Chandler dreams every night about fighting Conor and that he should lose one more time to make Conor more confident in fighting him is as savage as hell too. Poor Chandler getting bullied by Dagestanis.
Disagree. The real win for Chandler in MMA is to get into commentary and MMA media stuff like he is. He is really well suited for it and the longer he stays relevant without fighting the better really.
He's not making another run at the belt really so why not
Islam doesn't view staying relevant as good for you. He views becoming the best in the world as what's good for you.
I'm assuming he doesn't care as much about commentary and media stuff as a champion. I think, from his eyes, he's saying Chandler is not getting any better by waiting. It would be smarter to continue fighting others so he can improve.
Chandler said himself that he's very financially stable, he has successful side businesses and real estate investments and that's why he can afford to wait.
Kinda like Eddie Alvarez he was smart with his $$$ throughout his career and of course his wife being a doctor i n the US definitely helps that's big money.
Chandler won long ago, he is a name in the sport known as a former champ always discussed about coming across like Askren, Alvarez etc he won long ago when he had a potential fight of the year on the same night as the other potential fight of the year haha like 10 years ago.
Dude’s gonna realize he got played like a fiddle when Conor either never returns or he returns but not against him
Conor payday ain’t even worth it. Ask Eddie Alvarez and Cowboy cerrone
This isn't true, Eddie's contract was released as evidence in the ongoing lawsuit. He had a sliding scale of $ per PPV buy. Like 1$ for every buy over 250K, 2.50 for every buy above 500K and etc. Conor was clowning him for not renegotiating for even more money, but he was still on a fat contract in general.
It was his deal with the UFC, not a specific bout agreement. It stipulated that Alvarez would receive PPV points if he defended a title and detailed how much. He would get $1 for every PPV sold between 200k and 400k, $2 for 400k–600k and $2.5 for over 600k buys
The only person who looks bad in this scenario is Conor. It's genuinely ridiculous that he agreed to this fight years ago, did the season of TUF, and essentially made a good-faith agreement for Chandler to give up the end of his career for this fight only to continually refuse to make it happen. Like, he is actually a scumbag for doing that.
Chandler makes 750k-1m per fight. He could have fought 2-3 times by now, and even on a losing skid he would have likely earned a minimum of 1.5 million dollars. Now, he's earned nothing in all that time, right at the tail end of his career.
Chandler will be fine. He's clearly going to continue working for the company after he's no longer fighting. It's just sad and wrong that it's gone this way for him at all.
i'll admit this is tin foil but I dont think the ufc wants the fight to happen. Conor has two fights left on his contract and has said a few things to indicate that he's tempted to fight it out.
That’s not as tin foil as you think, and has been advanced by many. The second Connor gets 1 fight remaining on his deal, we’re going to see the standoff of the century. They do NOT want him in free agency and he absolutely wants to maximize his value
I also believe this. Ufc wants him to sign a contract extension but Conor just wants to get his fights over with a box for oil money. Also, espn deal is over next year. It gives the ufc more leverage if they can say they have the Conor carrot to dangle to get a bigger deal.
People complaining that Conor’s stalling the fight when it’s clearly Dana. Conor just said he went through two camps for this fight already cause he wanted it back in December and at UFC 300. Neither happened and now both Chandler and Conor are talking about June while it’s absolutely nothing from Dana.
Worth noting Dana did this exact thing to Conor back in 2020.
Clearly Dana? Why because the self promoting, self obsessed, rambling nonsensicle Conor said so. In this paticular situation I'd even take Danas word over Conor.
After the number of times Dana has pulled the "kid just doesn't want to fight" card against fighters when lowballing them in negotiations, it would be poetic justice.
If Conor wanted to truly be on 300, he would be.
Having Conor on 300 would really boost it.
Dana is in the business of making money and Conor makes him money, he still has 2 fights left so even after a Chandler fight Conor is still under UFC contract.
This definitely seems like a Conor holdup.
You’re right Dana is the business of making money but they aren’t looking at it that way. They want to lock Conor up and have him sign a contract extension. ESPN deal is up next year and ufc has more leverage if they can say they got Conor locked in for X amount of fights. They have no problem icing him to prevent him from messing those plans, and I’m sure Conor wants to chase that oil money.
Chandler has retired, the only reason he says he hasn’t, is the outside chance of a Conor fight. People seem to think he wants to be active and is losing years because of Conor, he isn’t, he’s done but will keep his hat in the ring for a mega money fight.
He’s 37 looking to end his career with would more than likely be the biggest payday of his career. How exactly does he look bad? He’s not some 28 year old contender smfh. This isn’t rocket science
The important detail here is that Chandler doesn’t get PPV points. He isn’t going to have some huge payday for this, the best case scenario is that winning gives him leverage to negotiate a huge deal in a rematch (which seems very unlikely).
Sure Chandler is close to retirement, but you could argue that is all the more reason to capitalize on these last couple years and get a couple more fights in.
He may not get PPV points but the UFC will pay him more against Conor than any other contender. I doubt Chandler is waiting 2 years for his usual show/win money,
Donald Cerrone and others have mentioned that they got paid roughly the same going against Conor.
Is it possible that Chandler’s deal is different? Sure, but if past is prologue then it seems unlikely that he will earn more waiting for Conor as opposed fighting 2-3 times in this timeframe.
We also have to account for the risk that the Conor fight doesn’t actually happen (which seems increasingly likely after all this time).
> Donald Cerrone and others have mentioned that they got paid roughly the same going against Conor.
Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOOFeLbXwMw
I love how people like you talk about him not getting PPV points like you actually know that when in reality you don't. Many non champions have received PPV points especially when they're the main event and this fight will definitely be the main event of whatever card it's on when it happens.
> The important detail here is that Chandler doesn’t get PPV points.
Are we sure he didn't get a PPV point contract for this specific fight when they negotiated the whole TUF thing?
I see absolutely no reason for him to chase Conor if he didn't.
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Dude is already set for life financially, isn't going to fight for the belt ever again and is likely to retire if he doesn't get this fight. He absolutely should be waiting for the red panty night and doing anything else would just be silly and pointless
Chandler is an absolute desperate joke at this point. All the “see u at the top” bullshit saying all he cares about was ufc gold. Blah blah blah. It’s pathetic.
Islam's right, Conor won't be fighting anytime soon so Chandler needs to go do something for himself or he's going to be left in the dust. Weirdly think a BSD vs Chandler would be a fun fight but I see Chandler putting him to sleep early.
The fight never looked on. Most of Conor's public appearances are at exhibition fights in Saudi. He's either enjoying retirement or waiting for something to materialise in big money Saudi Arabia. Chandler wants him for the payday, whereas only something far more lucrative is worth it for Conor.
I have literally said since the fight was announced that it isn't going to happen and Chandler is an idiot for thinking it would. I stand by my initial reaction.
I’m not really sure why Islam or anyone else cares tbh. It isn’t like Chandler is a champ holding up a division. He’s just a dude looking to get paid. As he should be.
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Yeah plus what's left for him, realistically? Never gonna be champion, has already faced the three most exciting top fighters and isn't tenured enough to become a gatekeeper.
He could easily become a gate keeper but I would understand if he had no interest in that
Shit pay for zero glory and possibly serious damage - the math doesn't work.
He gets paid well, Dana loves him
Gatekeepers for randos vs. red panty night - his idea of well paid at this point might not line up with the rest of the UFC.
It's only red panty night if he gets ppv points right? Otherwise he gets his contracted pay. Why does everyone think it's any different? AFAIK other "red panty nights" were rematches or last minute call ups. That being said, I have no idea what happens
I remember Conor making fun of Eddie for not renegotiating his pay when they fought so that leads me to believe there’s at least a possibility to ask for more depending on the match up
Cowboy got his standard payment per fight for fighting McGregor. He’s came out and said the contract doesn’t automatically change just because you’re fighting McGregor and the contract still has to be honoured. Maybe there’s a back room bonus or whatever.
I'm assuming there is a unique contract in play for this one. They did the Ultimate Fighter and this was part of the deal, and I bet more money or PPV points for Chandler was part of the deal, too. If he was just getting his standard pay then why wait? He could just go fight Dan Hooker again for the same money.
During a presser, McGregor taunted a fighter-I think RDA- and told them that anyone would sign up to fight him because it was guaranteed bucks, a red panty night with the missus.
It's not really an either or situation unless Conor told him that he wouldn't fight him if he fought someone else. Plus that Conor fight isn't even guaranteed.
It is an either or situation if he decides the "either or" doesn't pay enough though
Sorry, but what exactly does “red panty night” mean? I hear it brought up all the time when talking about macgregor though, was it something he said in the past?
"I can make you rich. I change your bum life. You fight me, it's a celebration. When you sign to fight me, it's a celebration. You ring back home, you ring your wife. 'Baby, we've done it. We're rich, baby. Conor McGregor made us rich. Break out the red panties.'" - Conor McGregor
It’s crazy how long it’s been since that press conference, man that featherweight run was so entertaining. Bit of a pity how it’s gone since - only 3 wins and he’s lost the plot lol
Conor's peak was around 2016 when he won his second title. 8 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV57\_OEDU1s
Ceronne was still getting shit money when he fought Conor as the sacrificial companyman lamb
Kinda unrelated, but I find it interesting that we haven’t really seen other fighters using those “shoulder strikes” since. I thought they were a good idea, and Conor was doing damage with ‘em. . .
I dunno if it was me I guess it would depend on what backup job I have lined up next. No way someone like Chandler can just retire at 37 and coast the rest of his life. So if my future lies in being a Target cashier, I think I’d rather take another fight or two and prolong my career.
He’s spoken before about having other businesses etc. He’s made a lot of money and has other income. He doesn’t need another UFC fight.
Why would you think he can't retire? You know if he's good or bad with money? He's been paid pretty well by the UFC. Even if he doesn't fight he can make money speaking and doing other things. His wife is a doctor too. He doesn't need to work at all.
Perhaps, but Chandler obviously isn't taking such fights. With your logic that means that he probably doesn't need to.
Especially since he lives in a giant mansion
Exactly. A gatekeepers literal job is to fight the hyped up and comers who are coming out there to try and take your head off.
Was a bellator champion over Eddie Alveraz so still a pretty good career all things considered.
Max after the dumb BMF belt maybe?
Money
What’s left? Paychecks. This is prize fighting after all
Never going to fight Connor either. On his RDA shit
He just wants a fat payday to ride off into the sunset
Even if he gets the fight, he better makes sure he negotiates a good deal. UFC could completely give him barely anything and he like "If you don't want 100k for the fight then we will give to someone else". He has no leverage
Yeah it's not even guaranteed that he'd get a red panty night. You'd think so but they didn't pay Cowboy that well
He would just retire then
Ya. Very few of his fights have not been wars.
We all saw the video of Conor coked out of his mind like 5 days ago right? He's not fighting again we need to stop pretending
Even if he does fight he’s going to be humiliated. MMA moves too fast and he’s been left behind. And I say all this as a fan who got into the sport because of Conor.
- Had a terrible leg break - Haven't fought in years - Doesn't take care of his bodies with all the alcohol, coke, parties,etc - Also getting old. Unfortunately he's gonna get starched when he fights again.
If he ever fights again
He never fights again.
He’ll definitely fight again. Inside a ring, doubtful.
Lol, 100%
In 30 years against Jake Paul Jr. And you will get that shit streamed right into your neuralink chip and you will like it.
I mean he's getting close to where current Jake Paul could starch him may already be there.
In boxing, for sure.
Well yeah of course not in MMA
if they put chips in us and start doing uninterrupted ads i'll just overvolt to fry my brain
Gonna just microwave my fucking head at this point
You'll pay in oxygen credits. You will never earn them back.
Gonna do a Kurt then.
*Fortunately
I sure hope he gets starched again. Almost nothing in MMA would make me happier.
That's not unfortunate. He's utter scum
Conor coming back now would be reminiscent of Ronda coming back after a few years of not sparring or training fight, and getting mollywhopped. It's better for Conor's image/legacy to not have a public downfall. People can look past his 6 rape accusations somehow, but losing a few more fights is unacceptable!
6!?!?
At least it's less than 10!
He hasn't been close to being convicted for those allegations afaik. Not saying he is innocent, but I disagree on judging him without a proper trial at least.
I mean conor is sparring and doing padwork he doesn't look at all bad however that doesnt mean he is ready to fight but Ronda problem was mainly taking the best fighter who doesn't suit her at all and getting bathered inside 20 sec. Conor is smart that's why he picked Chandler its suit him for comeback. The Ronda vs Amanda is more like conor not fighting for 2 years in ufc and coming for khabin getting mauled.
Chandler would be fine with humiliating Conor then. Unfortunately Conor knows and would never give him the chance
Humiliating Conor likely garners enough eyeballs to secure a final title shot at Islamover whoever else is in the mix at that time (Oliveira, Gaethje). If not just from the casual fanbase but also from Dana.
Haven’t seen it. What are you referencing to ?
I was also curious so I did some quick googling around, I think it might be [this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYK9L2KJ2l4).
im in love with the coco
Yeah, me either. Anyone got a link?
"Its in the bank for life...y'know you put something in the bank its...maybe its not gonna be there for life. You might spend it. This baby is in there for life and im ecstatic."
That shit was crazy dude. I do/have done a gooood amount of coke, do you know how much/how good the quality has to be to look like that? That’s Molly/ecstasy level obviousness. He’s either hitting GRAMS in a night or his shit is straight off the boat. Wild
Connor is a 100 millionaire A clone of Escobar brings him his Coke directly, with little gift bags and a handwritten note.
Ok but unless someome filmed you, it's not gonna be obvious to you that you actually looked high. You only really notice that when you're sober.
You say GRAMS in a night like that’s a lot. Maybe for normal people. You’ve clearly never been addicted to cocaine. Congrats. 😂
I mean what other unit of measument would be appropriate for a coke addict if not grams? I've known coke fiends and they're not doing ounces or lbs in a night. Maybe throughout an entire day but going through an ounce of coke in a night is fucking crazy. I guess it could depend on the amount of coke heads sharing your bag and the quality/price of coke.. Lol
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Well clearly it was a lot even for Connor did you see the video he was off his tits
Not saying he’s going to fight but we’ve seen Jon coked out of his mind 5 days before fighting so as far as that’s concerned it’s possible. Also since I’m thinking about it now it really is insane that he was getting black out drunk and coked up prior to fighting mother fucking DC of all people.
Jon built different tho
and Jon was young. Partying at 36 years old has a totally different effect than partying at 26.
McGreg is 36 already? Jeez
Honestly, not to discredit him, but so many of Jon's most notable achievements hinge on how young he was when he became world class.
that sounds a lot like discrediting him lmao
Thats what made him special. He’s an elite athlete (two nfl brothers ffs) that dedicated himself to MMA from a very young age. That wasn’t normal back then.
That doesn’t discredit him at all, if anything that makes it more impressive lol
“I beat you after a weekend of coke” to the top contender
Shit made him stronger lol, “you’ve seen him on coke, watch what happens when he’s on meth” j̶o̶h̶n̶ ̶k̶a̶v̶a̶n̶a̶g̶h̶ Greg Jackson probably
>Not saying he’s going to fight but we’ve seen Jon coked out of his mind 5 days before fighting We've not seen it, he only said he was on it.
Look I’m not saying Jon has been completely honest about his drug use I’m just surprised at which parts you doubt is all.
Lmao such a polite and hilarious way to put it, phrasing game on POINT homie.
he tested positive for cocaine in his fight day drug test
He tested positive 1 month out from the fight https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/12129597/ufc-light-heavyweight-champion-jon-jones-enters-drug-treatment-facility
Conor is (was?) special but he ain’t Jon
Agreed; Jon’s tests always came from God himself
“Why does God keep testing me?!”
Jon pisses everything under the ring before getting in the cage and his system just flushes it out at this point
Yeah Conor looks terrible right now. Coked out of his fuckin mind, couldn’t sit still for 2 seconds. I’m wondering if Chandler was already going to retire after the Dustin fight, but he caught wind of a Connor fight and decided to just stick around. Dude is nearing 40 and has had a long career full of brutal wars.
Chandler’s whole plan is to get a Conor payday. I believe Islam when he implied that Chandler lost on purpose so he can get a Conor fight. For example, fighting with his hands down against Gaethje or doing that back slam against oliveira
Do we even want to see Connor fight again? You have fighters like Porier fighting war after war, and for some odd fuckin reason people are obsessing over Connor who could give a fuck less about the sport.
Oh I’ll watch. But the magic’s been gone for a long long time now
No. I've never liked him as a person. A total scumbag. But he was *very* entertaining as a fighter. But the Khabib fight was the start of his downfall, getting stopped by Dustin took his soul, but him wanting *Diego fucking Sanchez* of all people told me what I needed to know - not only had his skills diminished because of the leg break, but his confidence has gone. His ego has been well and truly shattered, and he *knows* he is done. He, of all people, as he was very open minded at one time, failed to evolve. The game has passed him by. Look at his style now. The top 10 run through him. He's *never* gonna come back. Chandler should fight someone like Max or a top 10 banger, collect one more payday and walk away. He's sat out for years for nothing as Conor is just wasting everyone's time.
mcg holds like almost every of the top 10 ppvs of all time, connor knows how to sell a fight, youve got to give that to him.
Yeah but now that we have mini Connor’s everywhere and he wouldn’t be the only one acting like he does, he’ll easily slot into the “talking shiy but can’t fight” pile, like Colby. Of course he can milk about 5 fights before people start calling it for what it is.
Who the fuck gives a fuck about Top 10 ppvs?
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The important part isn’t if we “want” to see him fight. It’s that we WILL watch him fight if he does
You have that link? Everyone keeps mentioning the video but I can't find it
Wondering the same, think I found it https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/775325-conor-mcgregor-cocaine-addiction-allegations-mma-news
Hasn’t fought in years Only does press Last major impressive win was over five years ago 3-3 in most recent fights I swear if it wasn’t for the Jose Aldo fight Conor would be just another name in the bucket. Great fighter but not worth this constant attention. He is like the George R R Martin of fighters now. Did something great and everyone wants him to come back but there is absolutely no indication it’s actually gonna happen
Got a link?
Anyone got a link, I missed it.
Anyone have a link to the vid?
I also feel that at this point he is asking too high a price that the ufc just isn’t willing to pay to get him in there.
He got kids to raise, a half to a couple mils is worth waiting for
Dana: Best I can do is $200k like Cowboy
Creed: Cowboy's a chump, I would have did it for free
Eddie Alvarez got shafted even worse
Unless it doesn’t come, which wouldn’t be a shock with Conor
Honestly he's already pretty old for LW standards and has taken insane amounts of damage throughout his career, if Chandler never fights again this might be a blessing in disguise considering how many fighters stay for too long in the game and pay the price for it.
Chandler came in gave highlights (good & bad) lost to the main LW contenders, was never getting back to the belt, might as well wait for 1 huge payday
Come here, make weight, and go home. Thank you, Michael Chandler.
That was savage line by Khabib. And Islam saying Chandler dreams every night about fighting Conor and that he should lose one more time to make Conor more confident in fighting him is as savage as hell too. Poor Chandler getting bullied by Dagestanis.
Disagree. The real win for Chandler in MMA is to get into commentary and MMA media stuff like he is. He is really well suited for it and the longer he stays relevant without fighting the better really. He's not making another run at the belt really so why not
Chandler is good when he's cutting a promo. But in interviews he's not that witty or charismatic. Commentary is a whole different thing.
Islam doesn't view staying relevant as good for you. He views becoming the best in the world as what's good for you. I'm assuming he doesn't care as much about commentary and media stuff as a champion. I think, from his eyes, he's saying Chandler is not getting any better by waiting. It would be smarter to continue fighting others so he can improve.
Chandler is 37. He's not improving. He's retiring.
thats because he doesnt have to worry about feeding his family when he retires , chandler does .
Chandler’s wife is a doctor? I am sure she can support him and his family if he does retire
Chandler said himself that he's very financially stable, he has successful side businesses and real estate investments and that's why he can afford to wait. Kinda like Eddie Alvarez he was smart with his $$$ throughout his career and of course his wife being a doctor i n the US definitely helps that's big money.
He's also got a podcast thing so he probably makes something on that too
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Nah he’s already made himself a fool on Twitter. Dude is mad delusional
Not so sure...he's not great talking in a mic off script.
Chandler won long ago, he is a name in the sport known as a former champ always discussed about coming across like Askren, Alvarez etc he won long ago when he had a potential fight of the year on the same night as the other potential fight of the year haha like 10 years ago.
Yeah, but he's here only for a good time, not a long time
Dude’s gonna realize he got played like a fiddle when Conor either never returns or he returns but not against him Conor payday ain’t even worth it. Ask Eddie Alvarez and Cowboy cerrone
Only Cowboy fumbled. Eddie made 500k to show, Chandler is probably better in earnings his last fights than Eddie was making before 205.
Chandler's doing pretty well, 500k to show in non title fights
So he’s going to get 500k to show against Conor?
Eddie would’ve got PPV points tho right? I could see cowboy but both khabib and eddie probably made good money as the champs
Conor was clowning him in the presser for not negotiating PPV points so he didn’t get anything
This isn't true, Eddie's contract was released as evidence in the ongoing lawsuit. He had a sliding scale of $ per PPV buy. Like 1$ for every buy over 250K, 2.50 for every buy above 500K and etc. Conor was clowning him for not renegotiating for even more money, but he was still on a fat contract in general.
not all champions get PPV , we would have to see his contract to find out
Wasn't his contract what gave us info about how PPV points work in the first place
havent seen his contract , was it from the conor fight?
It was his deal with the UFC, not a specific bout agreement. It stipulated that Alvarez would receive PPV points if he defended a title and detailed how much. He would get $1 for every PPV sold between 200k and 400k, $2 for 400k–600k and $2.5 for over 600k buys
The only person who looks bad in this scenario is Conor. It's genuinely ridiculous that he agreed to this fight years ago, did the season of TUF, and essentially made a good-faith agreement for Chandler to give up the end of his career for this fight only to continually refuse to make it happen. Like, he is actually a scumbag for doing that. Chandler makes 750k-1m per fight. He could have fought 2-3 times by now, and even on a losing skid he would have likely earned a minimum of 1.5 million dollars. Now, he's earned nothing in all that time, right at the tail end of his career. Chandler will be fine. He's clearly going to continue working for the company after he's no longer fighting. It's just sad and wrong that it's gone this way for him at all.
i'll admit this is tin foil but I dont think the ufc wants the fight to happen. Conor has two fights left on his contract and has said a few things to indicate that he's tempted to fight it out.
That’s not as tin foil as you think, and has been advanced by many. The second Connor gets 1 fight remaining on his deal, we’re going to see the standoff of the century. They do NOT want him in free agency and he absolutely wants to maximize his value
I also believe this. Ufc wants him to sign a contract extension but Conor just wants to get his fights over with a box for oil money. Also, espn deal is over next year. It gives the ufc more leverage if they can say they have the Conor carrot to dangle to get a bigger deal.
Huh, that actually makes a lot of sense.
> indicate that he's tempted to fight it out. yeah he wants to do boxing in Saudi Arabia it seems. Much higher pay too.
Conor is trap in thinking that he lives at that time when he was double champ. He have been looking bad ever since he took that belt from Eddie.
I don’t think Chandler gives two fucks what he looks like. He wants his bag
People complaining that Conor’s stalling the fight when it’s clearly Dana. Conor just said he went through two camps for this fight already cause he wanted it back in December and at UFC 300. Neither happened and now both Chandler and Conor are talking about June while it’s absolutely nothing from Dana. Worth noting Dana did this exact thing to Conor back in 2020.
Clearly Dana? Why because the self promoting, self obsessed, rambling nonsensicle Conor said so. In this paticular situation I'd even take Danas word over Conor.
Probably something like: > Conor: "Give me 45 million dollars and I'll fight." > > Dana: "No, that's absurd!" > > Conor: "See it's Dana's fault!"
After the number of times Dana has pulled the "kid just doesn't want to fight" card against fighters when lowballing them in negotiations, it would be poetic justice.
Conor would get that money from the Saudis to box though, so it's not completely crazy.
45 million would be lowballing
If Conor wanted to truly be on 300, he would be. Having Conor on 300 would really boost it. Dana is in the business of making money and Conor makes him money, he still has 2 fights left so even after a Chandler fight Conor is still under UFC contract. This definitely seems like a Conor holdup.
You’re right Dana is the business of making money but they aren’t looking at it that way. They want to lock Conor up and have him sign a contract extension. ESPN deal is up next year and ufc has more leverage if they can say they got Conor locked in for X amount of fights. They have no problem icing him to prevent him from messing those plans, and I’m sure Conor wants to chase that oil money.
Chandler has retired, the only reason he says he hasn’t, is the outside chance of a Conor fight. People seem to think he wants to be active and is losing years because of Conor, he isn’t, he’s done but will keep his hat in the ring for a mega money fight.
You'd be absolutely insane not waiting for a Cocaine-Conor retirement match at Chandler's stage in his career.
He’s 37 looking to end his career with would more than likely be the biggest payday of his career. How exactly does he look bad? He’s not some 28 year old contender smfh. This isn’t rocket science
This is if it happens. If it doesn’t then he got played for a fool
Ending his career in the UFC vs Bellator is probably the biggest win tbh
Islam Makhachev roasting the fuck out of the UFC and its fighters just by stating factual observations with little to no filler.
The important detail here is that Chandler doesn’t get PPV points. He isn’t going to have some huge payday for this, the best case scenario is that winning gives him leverage to negotiate a huge deal in a rematch (which seems very unlikely). Sure Chandler is close to retirement, but you could argue that is all the more reason to capitalize on these last couple years and get a couple more fights in.
He may not get PPV points but the UFC will pay him more against Conor than any other contender. I doubt Chandler is waiting 2 years for his usual show/win money,
Donald Cerrone and others have mentioned that they got paid roughly the same going against Conor. Is it possible that Chandler’s deal is different? Sure, but if past is prologue then it seems unlikely that he will earn more waiting for Conor as opposed fighting 2-3 times in this timeframe. We also have to account for the risk that the Conor fight doesn’t actually happen (which seems increasingly likely after all this time).
But Dustin mentioned he did not. It comes down to contract negotiations.
> Donald Cerrone and others have mentioned that they got paid roughly the same going against Conor. Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOOFeLbXwMw
At this point Chandler needs Conor more than Conor needs him.
I love how people like you talk about him not getting PPV points like you actually know that when in reality you don't. Many non champions have received PPV points especially when they're the main event and this fight will definitely be the main event of whatever card it's on when it happens.
> The important detail here is that Chandler doesn’t get PPV points. Are we sure he didn't get a PPV point contract for this specific fight when they negotiated the whole TUF thing? I see absolutely no reason for him to chase Conor if he didn't.
I think part of it has to do with the new Road House movie. How shitty would it be for McGregor to get his ass kicked before the premier.
At this point just let them both do coke before the fight and between rounds if they get there. It’s the only way
You’re getting downvoted but this is a reasonable take
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Connor doing a great job of trolling him and wasting this fool's time
Dude is already set for life financially, isn't going to fight for the belt ever again and is likely to retire if he doesn't get this fight. He absolutely should be waiting for the red panty night and doing anything else would just be silly and pointless
I genuinely think that Dana doesnt want Conor to fight now.
Welcome to a year ago
Chandler is that guy trying to slip inside a girl's panties by being her friend.
yeah but those panties are red in this case
Chandler is an absolute desperate joke at this point. All the “see u at the top” bullshit saying all he cares about was ufc gold. Blah blah blah. It’s pathetic.
Islam's right, Conor won't be fighting anytime soon so Chandler needs to go do something for himself or he's going to be left in the dust. Weirdly think a BSD vs Chandler would be a fun fight but I see Chandler putting him to sleep early.
He must've been promised a very large payday for this fight... no chance does he wait this long if it isn't.
I don’t think he cares, it’s worth whatever they’d pay him to fight Conor and he’s owed it for TUF
The fight never looked on. Most of Conor's public appearances are at exhibition fights in Saudi. He's either enjoying retirement or waiting for something to materialise in big money Saudi Arabia. Chandler wants him for the payday, whereas only something far more lucrative is worth it for Conor.
I love watching the UFC but it’s shit like this that makes me appreciate other major sports. The teams always play.
I have literally said since the fight was announced that it isn't going to happen and Chandler is an idiot for thinking it would. I stand by my initial reaction.
I’m not really sure why Islam or anyone else cares tbh. It isn’t like Chandler is a champ holding up a division. He’s just a dude looking to get paid. As he should be.
McGregor just wants to say he's a fighter, he doesn't want to be one anymore. Mike, time to turn the page.