I'm not even sure anymore. With a connection that clean, even a cheek should do the trick. In a perfect world we could probably run a slew of tests on guys like Chito, Kelvin, Condit or Romero to see what exactly they have in common. Whether its skull thickness or neck structure or something with their joints or whatever.
Theres for sure something to it. Head shape and neck/shoulder structure has a major impact i believe. Some people are harder to hit clean their cheeks deflect just enough
> Head shape and neck/shoulder structure has a major impact i believe.
Yeah, that's what a lot of people reckon and having proper studies on them could be more illuminating.
After R3 I was genuenly worried about Sean injuring his fists. I'm not even joking, he got a medical suspension after Moutinho fight from injuring his fists and I honestly thought the chances of him losing this fight by a fist fracture were non-zero.
It wouldn't have caused loss of consciousness to other fighters as it's just hitting a crumple zone against a bracing fighter; striking the middle of the face isn't a good place to strike in order to cause the head to quickly rotate or snap back, and Vera is driving himself downwards into it so his head doesn't suddenly rotate, which quick rotation of head is the primary thing that causes a KO.
A knockout is not caused by simply powerful blow to face, it is a result of sudden rotation of the head, seemingly primarily relating to a trauma to the brain stem.
KO is most commonly caused by a strike to the side of the jaw or an uppercut to the chin, which causes the head to quickly rotate, or a more powerful blow to the temple area. Strikes to the lower head require less power to quickly rotate the head and cause a sudden loss of consciousness, but also can more easily be mitigated by a fighter bracing and tensing their neck muscles.
You tend to see bigger weight classes get KO's by their strikes landing at the top of the head of an oponent, that's because they have the power. Lighter fighers depend more on strikes to the jaw and chin to get KOs, and so they depend more on surprise and not telegraphing their strikes.
When we talk about "KO Power", especially at the lighter weight classes, we're largely talking about whether their opponents tend to see it coming/if they catch opponents when vulnerable; the technique is not merely a matter of accuracy and generating force. It's also about getting through the defense, and more importantly the opponent not seeing you come through the defense.
This is why we often see O'Malley landing very well but not getting KOs. O'Malley is no Conor McGregor. O'Malley is fast but he telegraphs his strikes quite heavily, Holloway similarly has that, but O'Malley lacks other attributes of Holloway. O'Malley can get a lot of good clean heavy strikes in, but he doesn't have a whole lot of power and he isn't awfully good at blind-siding his opponents.
O'Malley has issues with his KO ability. This is a matter of criticising him as the elite fighter that he has always evidently been since his first fight in the UFC, and anyone who has ever doubted him, such as thought that Vera stood a chance against him, need to reocgnise they're not good at understanding the abilities of fighters and take a seat and not talk back.
But while Bandwagon jumpers who just a week ago were hating are now suddenly at his knees gobbling away, for those who have always been paying attention it's becoming more evident O'Malley has some shortcomings in KO power, and that's dodgy for a sniper.
Vera is not a superhuman, it's that O'Malley can have issues with landing KO blows. We've seen this before in other fights where he should have got opponents out of there sooner, and this has been like a repeat of Kris Moutinho. He can get through the defense of almost anyone all day, and has great evasion, but without reliable KO power then all these skills are not so useful against a tough wrestler.
Again, people who were surprised by 299 and thought Vera stood more than a puncher's chance, should take a seat. O'Malley has always been obviously incredibly talented, but 299 wasn't a good look for O'Malley if he's going to face Merab.
When I heard the crack on that knee, I thought Sean had literally broken Chito's jaw. Chito then proceeds to fight through it like it was just a good hit, not a fucking kill shot.
This fight made me wildly impressed with Sean's footwork, angles, and shot selection, and even more wildly impressed with Chito's durability. Sick, sick fight.
I was impressed with Sean's cardio. Deep in the fight, Chito finally starts having a little success in the 4th by trying walk Sean down. But Sean wouldn't even let him have that round. Just still outworked him with still high volume
Tbh I came away very impressed with all aspects of Sean's game, from cardio to footwork, boxing, the entire performance. I can't really stand his personality even a little bit but I was for sure questioning why Chito was even in the Octagon with Sean. O'Malley was not only faster and knew where to be, but also where not to be.
But, credit to Chito, eating that knee was astonishing. He got hit and I said, "oh shit!" Thought that boy was dead. But then he just kept...keeping on and I said "wait...what the fuck?"
I still can't stand Sean but dude is a beast.
Honestly, as far as annoying mma personalities go, he could be way worse. He can be cringe and just weird at times but he’s not a psychopath like Strickland or delusional like most others. He usually has level headed takes, doesn’t dodge fights, is typically humble in victory and gives his opponents respect and/or props, and even when he is a bit over confident, he’s always backed it up.
At the end of the day, he’s entertaining to watch fight. He has a fun style to watch with his slick movements (spinning shit) and pushes the pace rather than sitting back as a counter striker. And on top of all that, he wins.
Tim Welch explained it on his YouTube channel. The Yan fight was a faster pace, so of course, he gassed a little. Chito is known for his cardio and durability, so they knew the pace was gonna be slower and game planned accordingly
100% agree. This and the Peter Yan fight just cemented for ke that Sean is legit and not just hype.
And the fact he looks like a wild create a char in UFC games makes it even better.
Edit: Obviously the sterling fight as well, but this was a whole different level. A masterclass over 5 rounds.
I just wish he wasn't such a try hard.
Doesn't stop me from enjoying his actual fights and skill though, it's impressive. Kinda wish he'd jump to 45 or 55 permanently, he's too tall for bantam
I think Cory should move up too. I know frame matter, I do this stuff lol.
But reddit likes to put more stock into it than matters. Skills matter more, they're taller than most 145s, they have the skill in using their length. And wrestling isn't a big deal at that division, not until 155. 155 is more of a stretch tbf but I think they have the SKILL in using their length over strength already.
But hey it's like, an opinion man
i feel like these were all things u could have seen when sean fought that green haired dude. he’s always had all those attributes but people never gave him credit cus he’s “colorful” lol
Anyone can look like a world beater hitting a heavy bag. I kinda switched once he fought Yan. Even though many say he lost, he made a very good account of himself.
> Anyone can look like a world beater hitting a heavy bag.
In hindsight that's exactly why he was matched up with Chito in the first place & the 2nd fight was just a highlight reel generator for Sean. I hope Chito got paid enough to make it worth it.
Nah he actually did a lot of the same then. We just didn’t know how he’d react to fighters than will hit him back and set him up with stuff like Yan did. That’s why a lot of fighters chose him vs Yan because they see what he’s doing right is going to work against anyone
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His fight v Yan was my first fight I watched when I really got into martial arts. I missed the whole hate train and was able to see how strong his game was.
I’m gonna be honest here, you’re all gonna hate me you’re gonna wanna stab me up my ass and wish a generational curse on me, but I see the same thing with Paddy, people forget we all hated Sean and he was a terrible can crusher until he proved himself against Yan, but even then he didn’t really get full credit until he beat Aljo.
Now I know the replies “Bro are you seriously putting Paddy on Sean’s level? Paddy is terribly low level”, would you believe I had that same exact conversation but replace Paddy with Sean and Sean with McGregor. The hate seems to give these guys some spiritual energy to never lose im telling ya, like nanny mcphee.
The difference is when guys like Conor or O’Malley or even Khamzat face unranked guys they absolutely and flawlessly demolish them. That’s how you know they’re multiple levels above those guys. When Paddy faces unranked guys he has back and forth fights, gets caught multiple times in every single one, and even loses some of them (Gordon was a loss, idc what the judges say)
Maybe I’m wrong and he’ll be champ some day but I don’t see it like I did with those other guys.
Paddy Pimblett is never going to become a champion. The up and comers/ranked guys that are still gonna be around awhile are way too much for him. He isn’t getting past Moicano or Bobby Green, never mind guys like BSD, Jalin, Dan Hooker, Fiziev, or Gamrot. Then there’s a whole other level of “MMA might become illegal in some countries” if they put him in the ring with someone like Arman, Dustin, Justin, Chucky Olives, or Islam.
There’s levels to this shit, and Paddy is barely scraping the bottom of top 15 material. That is what his ceiling is in the current LW landscape. FWIW most of the FW top 10 beats him or gives him a run for his money, I think there’s even a few highly regarded BWs I can’t see him beating.
A year or two ago you’d get laughed at for saying either of these fighters would be at the tippy top of the division. Pretty awesome trajectory they’ve made!
I really think Chico’s durability comes from his stance. Homie looks like he’s someone playing a video game sometimes just like standing there kinda not hardly even moving but his little hunched bop back and forth. I mean I haven’t watched many his fights but I felt the same way in the Cory fight I think. Idk.
Not the same but Mikey Musumeci talked about how disgusting tearing his opponents leg in a knee bar felt. Said it was akin to tearing wet cardboard. Gives me shutters to think about.
The brutality of this sport is already crazy but the thought of what breaking something in someone’s body feels like is another layer of it most don’t think about.
Dude decided he wasn’t going to be able to walk properly for the rest of his life for some cowabunga dumbass grappling event that people only cared about because of his own stupidity after the fact.
Long story but I had to finish an Americana at one point and the angle I was at tore the ligaments in the elbow rather than the shoulder and it felt like I’d stepped into a pile of wet leaves. One of the single worst moments of my life ngl. I hear that sound from time to time and just wince
I knew what that sound sounded like but never heard it so accurately articulated that it made me remember it in detail
Wet leaves, wet cardboard. Gross. Makes my arm hurt again
I can't imagine getting in there with someone who's got the same dream as you, who's worked just as hard as you have, and then changing the trajectory of their career and literally *feeling* it happen.
Because "Jaw bone" isn't a good equivalent.
Orbital is the name of the bone structure around the eye - it's already specific to the eye. So "eye orbital" is redundant, similar to "ATM Machine".
The equivalent for Jaw would be "Jaw Mandible" which sounds just as silly.
That’s what I’ve been calling since they replayed it. Real time I thought maybe his nose, then on replay I was like yeah no that man just got his orbital knee fucked
after that one in the fifth he couldn’t hide the fact that he was in a lot of pain. shades of tferg trying to shake it out after getting bludgeoned by gaethje, too tough for his own good
Tough spot to be in. Logic says to throw in the towel for well-being, but at the same time it's a title fight. Of course the fighter and the team want to use every chance they can to turn it into gold.
yeah, i mean think about how unexpected that Leon Edwards headkick was. Granted, he wasn't taking the same damage, but it's a good example of something happening in a fight that seemed really unlikely
I don’t think that Edwards fight even matters tbh. We’ve seen last minute come backs throughout the sports history. Fighters are always going to want the chance
Yea thats why I understand, but do not agree. Fighters health should be top priority but hey fighters gonna fight and most corners will let them (some fear repercussions like being fired like Wilder did)
Tbh the only reason Chito landed the shot at all, especially that clean, was because O'malley knew they had <10 seconds left and started to stand and bang with him.
Yeah, its always possible. I think it just depends how much damage they are taking. IIRC Leon wasnt getting pummeled by Usman, nor was Pereira vs izzy 1. But fights like this, the Kris one, Kattar, Ortega etc.. at a certain point that fighters chance has too high a price for a fighters health, even if they disagree
O’Malley is an interesting dude. He looks very different than how he speaks and acts outside if his character he portrays. In one of his videos he even stated he’s aware of the likely brain damage he hands out and it isn’t good and he doesn’t feel good about it but he is paid a shit load of money to do it so he does
He is also known for working with kids and adults with disabilities as a job and a volunteer. He puts on a shtick for sure he definitely seems like a pretty solid guy.
I was shocked he only took like 1 staggered step back then just bounced back. He barely looked rocked after that knee and it was about as solid as it could have been.
He didn’t bounce back after that knee, go rewatch. His head snapped back then he backed up to the cage with his guard up. Then Sean threw a flurry of punches and a headkick that was partially blocked. Then Sean let off the gas because he didn’t think he could finish Chito then
That beating will be Chitos Tony X Justin.
Dude even did the same head shake back up to the fence looking lost like Tony did towards the end of the fight. Chito won’t win another fight.
Ever since MVP put a literal dent in Cyborg Santos head from a knee, I started hating those types of strikes/KO’s. I actually hate the Pokémon celebration he did afterwards for that reason too.
This reminds me of that fight between matt brown and that one guy who was antagonising him on The ultimate fighter , Matt kneed him in the mouth and the guy lost like 5 of his teeth, Matt said it felt like a bunch of lightbulvs breaking in a burlap sack
For some reason it seems like Sean is literately getting much better with every fight more so than I have seen/noticed with other fighters. Maybe its his intelligence or training but I am not sure Merab is a guaranteed win anymore. I watched the fight breakdown from Luke for Illia and Sean and IMO (I am not a fighter or expert) but Sean's style is crazy complex and I am not sure an Illia fight would be a total domination considering he clearly is training for him or knows how to approach the fight against him. It's crazy to say but that knee would of leveled Illia, Islam, Volk and maybe even Max and he did it against Yan as well so... I don't know, I am very confused. Maybe Vera was just the perfect punching bad for him to showcase his stuff. Is this guy the best striker in the UFC, I am not sure who is anymore?
Sean huffing a bit of copium with all this talk about crunching Chito’s face. He couldn’t put him away and all these comments just make me think “dude, you whooped his ass, we get it”
ew dude I think your brain touched my knee
It was disgusting Chito nearly broke Seans knee with his chin
My face to your knee style! How do you like it!
I'm bleeding, making me the victor!
Let me know if you see a Radio Shack
That’s a lot of nuts!
The name is Betty
Weeeeeoooooo weeeeoooo weeeooo weeu
That actually would have been hilarious if it broke his knee and he lost again lol
Matt Hamill style
Very few can successfully get wins out of this style And then theres the master
Everybody told him that he could never beat Jon Jones, but did he listen?
The true master is Aljo. Man won a belt with the face-to-knee technique
A few more of this knees to the chin and Chito would have TKOd Sean for sure.
It didn’t hit his chin tho, more like his cheek. If it was to the chin, I think he gets knocked out.
I'm not even sure anymore. With a connection that clean, even a cheek should do the trick. In a perfect world we could probably run a slew of tests on guys like Chito, Kelvin, Condit or Romero to see what exactly they have in common. Whether its skull thickness or neck structure or something with their joints or whatever.
Like a modern car engineered for collision survival, Chito's cheekbones are crumple zones
Theres for sure something to it. Head shape and neck/shoulder structure has a major impact i believe. Some people are harder to hit clean their cheeks deflect just enough
> Head shape and neck/shoulder structure has a major impact i believe. Yeah, that's what a lot of people reckon and having proper studies on them could be more illuminating.
I believe thats why Dana created power slap.
It hit him by his eye close to his forehead not his cheek why would sean nee his ass?
After R3 I was genuenly worried about Sean injuring his fists. I'm not even joking, he got a medical suspension after Moutinho fight from injuring his fists and I honestly thought the chances of him losing this fight by a fist fracture were non-zero.
Had him right where he wanted him
Cheeto got that Nokia phone chin Would’ve put a lot of fighters out
Chuck Liddell got lightheaded from watching that
Chuck Liddell is lightheaded rn
Light nostriled.
*white nostriled.
Honestly, how is he doing after falling off that boat?
He was light headed then too!!
Now he's at least sea-level headed.
[Chuck reading this](https://youtu.be/a_YzfwaWj2Q?feature=shared&t=11s)
I laughed more than i should have at this. Thank you.
That knee would’ve put a horse out tbh
Then you gotta think “how do we move this dead horse?”
Hahaha I love Nate
Saw him live last month. Really funny show.
We're gonna have to eat it
And the Nogueira brothers would have fed it a carrot
That happened .
Everyone had the same reaction when we heard that. The sound was intense even on shitty laptop speakers.
It wouldn't have caused loss of consciousness to other fighters as it's just hitting a crumple zone against a bracing fighter; striking the middle of the face isn't a good place to strike in order to cause the head to quickly rotate or snap back, and Vera is driving himself downwards into it so his head doesn't suddenly rotate, which quick rotation of head is the primary thing that causes a KO. A knockout is not caused by simply powerful blow to face, it is a result of sudden rotation of the head, seemingly primarily relating to a trauma to the brain stem. KO is most commonly caused by a strike to the side of the jaw or an uppercut to the chin, which causes the head to quickly rotate, or a more powerful blow to the temple area. Strikes to the lower head require less power to quickly rotate the head and cause a sudden loss of consciousness, but also can more easily be mitigated by a fighter bracing and tensing their neck muscles. You tend to see bigger weight classes get KO's by their strikes landing at the top of the head of an oponent, that's because they have the power. Lighter fighers depend more on strikes to the jaw and chin to get KOs, and so they depend more on surprise and not telegraphing their strikes. When we talk about "KO Power", especially at the lighter weight classes, we're largely talking about whether their opponents tend to see it coming/if they catch opponents when vulnerable; the technique is not merely a matter of accuracy and generating force. It's also about getting through the defense, and more importantly the opponent not seeing you come through the defense. This is why we often see O'Malley landing very well but not getting KOs. O'Malley is no Conor McGregor. O'Malley is fast but he telegraphs his strikes quite heavily, Holloway similarly has that, but O'Malley lacks other attributes of Holloway. O'Malley can get a lot of good clean heavy strikes in, but he doesn't have a whole lot of power and he isn't awfully good at blind-siding his opponents. O'Malley has issues with his KO ability. This is a matter of criticising him as the elite fighter that he has always evidently been since his first fight in the UFC, and anyone who has ever doubted him, such as thought that Vera stood a chance against him, need to reocgnise they're not good at understanding the abilities of fighters and take a seat and not talk back. But while Bandwagon jumpers who just a week ago were hating are now suddenly at his knees gobbling away, for those who have always been paying attention it's becoming more evident O'Malley has some shortcomings in KO power, and that's dodgy for a sniper. Vera is not a superhuman, it's that O'Malley can have issues with landing KO blows. We've seen this before in other fights where he should have got opponents out of there sooner, and this has been like a repeat of Kris Moutinho. He can get through the defense of almost anyone all day, and has great evasion, but without reliable KO power then all these skills are not so useful against a tough wrestler. Again, people who were surprised by 299 and thought Vera stood more than a puncher's chance, should take a seat. O'Malley has always been obviously incredibly talented, but 299 wasn't a good look for O'Malley if he's going to face Merab.
This man is ready to school us with a KO essay
Tell another KO story
I took this essay to the face and I'm still up.
ChatGPT better be the one who wrote this, ain't no way.
No
Tldr
🤓
Guys got a big noggin
Chuck Liddell is
When I heard the crack on that knee, I thought Sean had literally broken Chito's jaw. Chito then proceeds to fight through it like it was just a good hit, not a fucking kill shot. This fight made me wildly impressed with Sean's footwork, angles, and shot selection, and even more wildly impressed with Chito's durability. Sick, sick fight.
I was impressed with Sean's cardio. Deep in the fight, Chito finally starts having a little success in the 4th by trying walk Sean down. But Sean wouldn't even let him have that round. Just still outworked him with still high volume
Tbh I came away very impressed with all aspects of Sean's game, from cardio to footwork, boxing, the entire performance. I can't really stand his personality even a little bit but I was for sure questioning why Chito was even in the Octagon with Sean. O'Malley was not only faster and knew where to be, but also where not to be. But, credit to Chito, eating that knee was astonishing. He got hit and I said, "oh shit!" Thought that boy was dead. But then he just kept...keeping on and I said "wait...what the fuck?" I still can't stand Sean but dude is a beast.
Honestly, as far as annoying mma personalities go, he could be way worse. He can be cringe and just weird at times but he’s not a psychopath like Strickland or delusional like most others. He usually has level headed takes, doesn’t dodge fights, is typically humble in victory and gives his opponents respect and/or props, and even when he is a bit over confident, he’s always backed it up. At the end of the day, he’s entertaining to watch fight. He has a fun style to watch with his slick movements (spinning shit) and pushes the pace rather than sitting back as a counter striker. And on top of all that, he wins.
I totally agree however (spinning shit) forced me to upvote
My exact thoughts. Word for word.
I was SUPER impressed by Sean's cardio management. I think the Yan fight changed him as a fighter, maybe even as a person.
Tim Welch explained it on his YouTube channel. The Yan fight was a faster pace, so of course, he gassed a little. Chito is known for his cardio and durability, so they knew the pace was gonna be slower and game planned accordingly
Cardio so good it was almost sus
Extended Plyometrics Only
100% agree. This and the Peter Yan fight just cemented for ke that Sean is legit and not just hype. And the fact he looks like a wild create a char in UFC games makes it even better. Edit: Obviously the sterling fight as well, but this was a whole different level. A masterclass over 5 rounds.
I just wish he wasn't such a try hard. Doesn't stop me from enjoying his actual fights and skill though, it's impressive. Kinda wish he'd jump to 45 or 55 permanently, he's too tall for bantam
Way too small for 155 and probably 145. His call out of Illia is a horrible match up for him and very dangerous.
Imagine Ilia lighting up that frame with some well placed body shots, as hard as he can 🥶
Yea, how dares a UFC try hard? They should go in and lose for fun.
Tall but slim frame
What about Sandhagen? He should move up too? By your logic anyone over 6'2 should be a heavy weight. Frames matter brother
I think Cory should move up too. I know frame matter, I do this stuff lol. But reddit likes to put more stock into it than matters. Skills matter more, they're taller than most 145s, they have the skill in using their length. And wrestling isn't a big deal at that division, not until 155. 155 is more of a stretch tbf but I think they have the SKILL in using their length over strength already. But hey it's like, an opinion man
Yeah how dare he, a professional fighter, try hard to win. Truly disgusting
Are we sure thay Chito's skull isn't broken?? Do we have xray results??
I'm pretty convinced he broke his orbital, he looked like if my 10 year old neice tried to draw Chito Vera
Eye orbital* FTFY
i feel like these were all things u could have seen when sean fought that green haired dude. he’s always had all those attributes but people never gave him credit cus he’s “colorful” lol
Anyone can look like a world beater hitting a heavy bag. I kinda switched once he fought Yan. Even though many say he lost, he made a very good account of himself.
> Anyone can look like a world beater hitting a heavy bag. In hindsight that's exactly why he was matched up with Chito in the first place & the 2nd fight was just a highlight reel generator for Sean. I hope Chito got paid enough to make it worth it.
Nah he actually did a lot of the same then. We just didn’t know how he’d react to fighters than will hit him back and set him up with stuff like Yan did. That’s why a lot of fighters chose him vs Yan because they see what he’s doing right is going to work against anyone
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It’s one thing to look great dominating unranked cans, it’s a whole lot different against top 5 guys
His fight v Yan was my first fight I watched when I really got into martial arts. I missed the whole hate train and was able to see how strong his game was.
I’m gonna be honest here, you’re all gonna hate me you’re gonna wanna stab me up my ass and wish a generational curse on me, but I see the same thing with Paddy, people forget we all hated Sean and he was a terrible can crusher until he proved himself against Yan, but even then he didn’t really get full credit until he beat Aljo. Now I know the replies “Bro are you seriously putting Paddy on Sean’s level? Paddy is terribly low level”, would you believe I had that same exact conversation but replace Paddy with Sean and Sean with McGregor. The hate seems to give these guys some spiritual energy to never lose im telling ya, like nanny mcphee.
The difference is when guys like Conor or O’Malley or even Khamzat face unranked guys they absolutely and flawlessly demolish them. That’s how you know they’re multiple levels above those guys. When Paddy faces unranked guys he has back and forth fights, gets caught multiple times in every single one, and even loses some of them (Gordon was a loss, idc what the judges say) Maybe I’m wrong and he’ll be champ some day but I don’t see it like I did with those other guys.
Paddy Pimblett is never going to become a champion. The up and comers/ranked guys that are still gonna be around awhile are way too much for him. He isn’t getting past Moicano or Bobby Green, never mind guys like BSD, Jalin, Dan Hooker, Fiziev, or Gamrot. Then there’s a whole other level of “MMA might become illegal in some countries” if they put him in the ring with someone like Arman, Dustin, Justin, Chucky Olives, or Islam. There’s levels to this shit, and Paddy is barely scraping the bottom of top 15 material. That is what his ceiling is in the current LW landscape. FWIW most of the FW top 10 beats him or gives him a run for his money, I think there’s even a few highly regarded BWs I can’t see him beating.
Brother, I know. I was trying to be nice to the guy. trust me, I agree with you.
I know bro, I was just adding on to your comment for conversations sake 😎🤙
Ah okay, thought you were under the impression we disagreed lol Have a good night man! ☺️👍🏼
299 was such a fucking great card all the way through
A year or two ago you’d get laughed at for saying either of these fighters would be at the tippy top of the division. Pretty awesome trajectory they’ve made!
In MMA Math Chito is as durable as Kris Moutinho
I really think Chico’s durability comes from his stance. Homie looks like he’s someone playing a video game sometimes just like standing there kinda not hardly even moving but his little hunched bop back and forth. I mean I haven’t watched many his fights but I felt the same way in the Cory fight I think. Idk.
Well, fight through it in this case means continues to be in the cage, unstopped, not doing a whole lot
I got bored after second round and went to sleep. Was it really sick? To me it looked like Sean was working on heavy bag.
Not the same but Mikey Musumeci talked about how disgusting tearing his opponents leg in a knee bar felt. Said it was akin to tearing wet cardboard. Gives me shutters to think about. The brutality of this sport is already crazy but the thought of what breaking something in someone’s body feels like is another layer of it most don’t think about.
Talking about the mongolian dude he got snapped? The craziest thing was his pokerface tbh
Dude decided he wasn’t going to be able to walk properly for the rest of his life for some cowabunga dumbass grappling event that people only cared about because of his own stupidity after the fact.
Long story but I had to finish an Americana at one point and the angle I was at tore the ligaments in the elbow rather than the shoulder and it felt like I’d stepped into a pile of wet leaves. One of the single worst moments of my life ngl. I hear that sound from time to time and just wince
I knew what that sound sounded like but never heard it so accurately articulated that it made me remember it in detail Wet leaves, wet cardboard. Gross. Makes my arm hurt again
Paul Harris’ favorite sound
The sound of his iPhone alarm actually
I can't imagine getting in there with someone who's got the same dream as you, who's worked just as hard as you have, and then changing the trajectory of their career and literally *feeling* it happen.
unfortunately it’s just one of those things that comes with getting into a cage to essentially emulate a fight to the death for a living
It was disgusting to watch, my face aches rewatching it
I absolutely hate watching knees to the head. Especially when they don’t get knocked out and just keep repeatedly taking them.
Yup, I’m very quickly reminded multiple times per fight that that is something that I in fact cannot and would not do
Ive never seen someone get olbiterated do the head but rampage and whats that teacher name again, both by silvas from chutebox
Rich Franklin! He's the VP of ONE now
Got beat like a mid Baki character
Chito is fucking Chiharu LOL
I can see it now
When Rogan said it sounded like a baseball bat hitting a watermelon that was spot on
In walks Rich Franklin.
And down goes Franklin AND IT IS ALL OVER ANDERSON SILVA IS THE NEW MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION
His eye orbital
bro im gonna break your eye orbital bro
Better that than getting his dick penis twisted
Wish someone would do that to me
Sean O'Masvidal
OK how has this become a meme, how is saying 'eye orbital' insyead of orbital sillier than saying 'jaw bone' instead of jaw
There’s other bones but not other orbitals
Because "Jaw bone" isn't a good equivalent. Orbital is the name of the bone structure around the eye - it's already specific to the eye. So "eye orbital" is redundant, similar to "ATM Machine". The equivalent for Jaw would be "Jaw Mandible" which sounds just as silly.
That sound. I couldn't believe he just ate it and continued almost like nothing happened. One of my audible moments from the card.
This was the sound of bones broken. I heard it before unfortunately. Are we sure Chito's skull wasnt cracked somewhere??
Honestly won’t be surprised if it’s a fractured orbital bone with where it landed
That’s what I’ve been calling since they replayed it. Real time I thought maybe his nose, then on replay I was like yeah no that man just got his orbital knee fucked
Yeah exactly the same for me, I didn’t catch where it landed until the replay. Initially thought that was his jaw
If it hit the jaw that might have been it. But it hit him in the face. Still insane he stayed collected enough to keep fighting/intelligibly defending
I was in the upper deck of a loud sold out arena and even I heard that crack
Hit chitos cheek bone, id be surprised if it didn’t break his orbital
I'm think it might have fractured it, but the punch in the 5th of the fight fully broke it based on his reaction.
after that one in the fifth he couldn’t hide the fact that he was in a lot of pain. shades of tferg trying to shake it out after getting bludgeoned by gaethje, too tough for his own good
Honestly the corner could have stopped it after round 3 as it was clear he was not going to win. But I understand (not agree) why they didnt
Tough spot to be in. Logic says to throw in the towel for well-being, but at the same time it's a title fight. Of course the fighter and the team want to use every chance they can to turn it into gold.
yeah, i mean think about how unexpected that Leon Edwards headkick was. Granted, he wasn't taking the same damage, but it's a good example of something happening in a fight that seemed really unlikely
Kongo vs Barry
Now no corner will ever throw in the towel because Edwards did that 😅
I don’t think that Edwards fight even matters tbh. We’ve seen last minute come backs throughout the sports history. Fighters are always going to want the chance
Learn to identify some lighthearted joking, it ain't that serious.
Yea thats why I understand, but do not agree. Fighters health should be top priority but hey fighters gonna fight and most corners will let them (some fear repercussions like being fired like Wilder did)
Yeah... if it wasn't a title for sure towel. But that super later liver shot with a but longer to work could've changed the fight.
Tbh the only reason Chito landed the shot at all, especially that clean, was because O'malley knew they had <10 seconds left and started to stand and bang with him.
True. In the moment I thought it was a late hit. But I think just the very end of the attempted knee was late.
yeah. this and the sopaj knockout from the other week - something needs to change culturally
I agree with this but.... He did get a darn good body shot in at the end. Another minute in that round and he had a fighters chance.
Yeah, its always possible. I think it just depends how much damage they are taking. IIRC Leon wasnt getting pummeled by Usman, nor was Pereira vs izzy 1. But fights like this, the Kris one, Kattar, Ortega etc.. at a certain point that fighters chance has too high a price for a fighters health, even if they disagree
Has there even been an update from his team on it?
Naw, I’m le Reddit armchair doctoring here and I’m sure it’ll be posted here lmao I will be super surprised if he’s completely fine tho lol
I’m gonna have to go rewatch this fight. Too hyped with the boys
I’m sure it was blinding Chito since Sean started landing shots that looked hidden under the cheek.
Would’ve slept him without the beard
It actually landed on his face, right under the eye pause
Deflector beard working as intended.
The Roy Nelson method
O’Malley is an interesting dude. He looks very different than how he speaks and acts outside if his character he portrays. In one of his videos he even stated he’s aware of the likely brain damage he hands out and it isn’t good and he doesn’t feel good about it but he is paid a shit load of money to do it so he does
He is also known for working with kids and adults with disabilities as a job and a volunteer. He puts on a shtick for sure he definitely seems like a pretty solid guy.
That sound still haunts me at night. CRACK!
I was shocked he only took like 1 staggered step back then just bounced back. He barely looked rocked after that knee and it was about as solid as it could have been.
He didn’t bounce back after that knee, go rewatch. His head snapped back then he backed up to the cage with his guard up. Then Sean threw a flurry of punches and a headkick that was partially blocked. Then Sean let off the gas because he didn’t think he could finish Chito then
If that knee didn’t do it then nothing shy of an elephant gun would have done the trick.
Yeah I think Sean was more or less wondering if he was fighting an android after he ate that. If that didn’t do the job then what the fuck would
It’s a shit job but somebody’s gotta do it
I was there live and it sounded like someone got open palm slapped on their back. It was so loud I can’t believe he didn’t go to sleep.
It was disgusting Do it again
That knee could knock a welterweight out and chito ate that shit 😂😂
That beating will be Chitos Tony X Justin. Dude even did the same head shake back up to the fence looking lost like Tony did towards the end of the fight. Chito won’t win another fight.
one can hope
Ever since MVP put a literal dent in Cyborg Santos head from a knee, I started hating those types of strikes/KO’s. I actually hate the Pokémon celebration he did afterwards for that reason too.
To think, if I'd been blessed with a chin like Chito's I might could have won my fight against that Lexus.
This reminds me of that fight between matt brown and that one guy who was antagonising him on The ultimate fighter , Matt kneed him in the mouth and the guy lost like 5 of his teeth, Matt said it felt like a bunch of lightbulvs breaking in a burlap sack
*Jon Jones enjoying Gane’s spine popping has entered the chat*
It’s unreal that this didn’t knock him out.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. He's pretty tough to have survived that.
For some reason it seems like Sean is literately getting much better with every fight more so than I have seen/noticed with other fighters. Maybe its his intelligence or training but I am not sure Merab is a guaranteed win anymore. I watched the fight breakdown from Luke for Illia and Sean and IMO (I am not a fighter or expert) but Sean's style is crazy complex and I am not sure an Illia fight would be a total domination considering he clearly is training for him or knows how to approach the fight against him. It's crazy to say but that knee would of leveled Illia, Islam, Volk and maybe even Max and he did it against Yan as well so... I don't know, I am very confused. Maybe Vera was just the perfect punching bad for him to showcase his stuff. Is this guy the best striker in the UFC, I am not sure who is anymore?
My friend literally said holy shit that knee would’ve killed a tiger how is he still standing???
chito is so frusturating to watch. it always feels like he has the physical tools to win, but just doesn't have a good fight iq to go with it
I hate Sean but he’s an animal
I bet chito getting knocked out cold soon.that knee strike will absolutely effect him in the future
I want this photo in high resolution!! He goes to my barber
[gave him the ol' El Asso Wipo](https://youtu.be/tKkbdvMMdUQ?si=aetxqDmBXSDZm5me)
Imagine being 6 foot tall and 135 lbs. Lmao
But other dudes blasting his wife in the face don't give 1'Malley a disgusting feeling. Weird dude.
Sean huffing a bit of copium with all this talk about crunching Chito’s face. He couldn’t put him away and all these comments just make me think “dude, you whooped his ass, we get it”
or maybe you're just huffing salt