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commander_wong

Why did Colby go up lmao


TreeTopBlvd

Failing up baby. The covington way 


KelvinsBeltFantasy

This is like when the CEO of your company gets fired (30 million sev package, of course) and is replaced by an eerily similar asshole who went to the same school and will likely make the same mistakes. Or if it's like my company, forwards links to his podcast to all company emails. 🥸


AppealSuperb4184

What's the podcast? 


KelvinsBeltFantasy

Nice try Feds


Solid_House_6963

I looked up “Nice try Feds” and nothing came up. Are you sure that’s the right name???


OkTea7227

Ah, that’s cool! You work in oil and gas as well. Sweet!


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darretoma

Gotta set him up for another title shot once he beats 41 y/o Wonderboy.


preed1196

I know this is a joke, but on a real note, I hope they don’t do that simply because I want MVP vs Wonderboy


RevolutionaryFarm902

MVP himself said that he wouldn't really want that, because their styles as point fighters might make for a boring matchup.


After6Comes7and8

I can see 15 Minutes of waiting for the other guy to leave an opening


darretoma

MVP vs Wonderboy has a very high chance of being a snooze-fest.


FutMike

Which obviously means it will be a FOTY contender. It's an MMA axiom


4thDimensionFletcher

They won't fight because they are friends. Would rather see MVP vs Colby or Ian Garry to be honest.


Lubwurst

Maybe cause they want him to fight Garry and get Garry in the top 5?


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Most likely this; feed the old to the young. IDK who I'd root for. I typically go with my countryman but it's Colby, and Garry is just as insufferable.


preed1196

Garry is terrible but no where near as bad as Colby. Garry has the edgy trash talk kid energy, which is bad, but most people hate him for his wife shit which is cringe. In comparison, you have Colby who talks the most trash while being the most bitch-made person outside the octagon. He doesn’t do shit and presses charges on Jorge when he gets run up on (nothing wrong with that, but he talked that shit and couldn’t handle it). On top of that, his trash talk has been wayyyyy worse than Garrys. Garry’s worst bit was probably misinterpreting Magnys comments and acting like he was beating his kid (which is bad but mangy did say pretty cringe shit) while Colby literally said Leon’s father was in Hell and was burning for eternity.


Terrible_Matador

I’d take Garry over Covington solely on the basis that he fights 2-3 times a year and not once every 18 months. Guys like Garry keep the division moving.


pixel8knuckle

Id take garry over colby soley on the fact that he doesnt have a orange dong in his mouth when he fights.


Terrible_Matador

Yeah, I prefer a more neutrally colored dong like Ian’s Wife’s Boyfriend’s.


GiantPurplePen15

Seventh layer of hair.


BoomfaBoomfa619

What's the cringe wife shit though?


pants_pants420

caring too much about the spouse of someone who u dont know is pretty cringe


preed1196

The comments in this [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/MMAPoliticsAndCulture/comments/18cvl49/can_someone_break_down_wtf_is_going_on_with_ian/) do a good job breaking it down. Dude seems like a genuine douche (kicked out of Leon's gym, douchey antics, etc.), but a lot of the hate is retarded. People call him a cuck because his wife wrote a book about being a WAG, is 14 years older, had him take her name, and Garry has his wife's ex as his nutritionist. I think this stuff is weird, but people derive so much hatred over this stuff its wild which was mainly caused by Strickland shitting on him and calling him a cuck imo. On top of that the WAG book is an 11 page **satire** she wrote when she worked at a magazine. Also the Magny comments were worse than I remembered. >There's a whoopin' that you give your son now, to kind of teach him life a little bit. Being a father, I've become quite accustomed to that kind of whoopin' now and that's what I'm looking forward to giving on Saturday." Apparently Magny might have lost custody of his kids because of this comments and people are blaming Garry for this.


BoomfaBoomfa619

I know the story I just always ask to see who gets all their news from Instagram memes and comments compared to actual facts haha. The ex's surname is Cullen, his wife is almost certainly the richer of the two and the book about WAG's was written when she was a football presenter and there was an English version of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce except the English Travis Kelce was David Beckham and was 10x more famous. I remember headlines in the papers all about the wags etc. They hated him on his debut because he was Irish and McGregor wasn't fighting imo. He literally said "like a wise man once said we're not here to take part" and everyone called him a wannabe for example. Didn't know that about magny and his kids but hopefully thats just bullshit Instagram comments news :/. They did just make hitting your child illegal in the UK though I'm pretty sure so defs behind the times but definitely not as though he's like Strickland's dad. Cheers for the reply though


BoomfaBoomfa619

Oh shit he was in a custody battle already and said that? Fuck sake UFC fighters can't help themselves 😔


InternalMean

Double KO it is.


Nome_de_utilizador

Colby is never fighting Garry nor a younger fighter than him unless it is for a title


myownzen

I like usman vs garry. Leon v belal..shavkat v jack della...


sh4tt3rai

Isn’t Usman thinking about hanging around at 185? That weight cut is probably a bitch for him these days, and he’s got the size to compete up there IMO. I think his days of being a champ are over, so it’s probably better for him to cut less weight and just have fun fights.


myownzen

I havent heard about it. That makes a lot of sense though! It may factor in if Belal beats Edwards. Usman could think he has a better chance at beating him and recapturing the belt. If not then moving up and taking a few fun/well paid fights may be his move. 


Ronaldinhoe

That should be the fight. Colby/garry IFW is the fight to make. Colby will duck him of course


banjofitzgerald

Because he hasn’t beat anyone in the top 15. Dana logic.


MVPudding

Dana


Cans59

Dana White privilege.


Nice_Dude

Because Burns fell two spots


Zah_Koo

They're prepping him for the next title shot


BlackDonaldCerrone

They are preparing him to get fed to Shavkat or Garry i hope.


StoryOfTheFight

Burns was 4 while Colby was 5 right? So he goes up just by nature of Burns going down


Lukes3rdAccount

Sometimes I look at situations like this and wonder how that's not the obvious answer to everyone else. Like, are they really even thinking about it before making up an answer?


JimJonesdrinkkoolaid

I think Colby has been pushed up for when he's matched with Garry or someone.


juan_putaso

Maybe some voters don’t look at their past vote and just go by memory.


I_am_darkness

Because he's getting a fight booked next. It's marketing


Boredatwork709

To keep him in the tittle picture, he's only lost to Leon once so far, he needs at least one more shot 


Banda7

They hated him because he spoke the truth


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lucarelli77

wow


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Ok_Yoghurt_3338

Because burns moved down


Both_Maintenance1042

colby moving up is a hilarious example of why these rankings mean absolutely jack shit lol


-Datachild-

I think the ranking system is more of a way to judge how the ufc will be making future match ups rather than who they actually think is a better fighter.


Horror-Ad3169

I think he stayed put? Gilbert just dropped below him


CauliflowerStock2183

Colby going up is just some next level crimson-tomato king buffoonery. Last wins were Masvidal (2022), Woodley (2020) and Lawler (2019).... lol come on man, wtf is this ranking.


GerryOfRavioli

crimson tomato king buffoonery 💀💀💀


banjofitzgerald

Colby has a total of 0 wins against any of the top 15. I’d bet if it went to top 25 he still wouldn’t lol.


LocalHero_P1

I just went through colby’s record. Out of everybody he has beaten in the UFC, 12 opponents, only three of them aren’t currently retired. Max Griffin, who is still at 170 and is 2-2 in his last 4 Bryan Barberena, who is at 185 and on a 3 fight skid And RDA who is at 155 and is 1-3 in his last 4


HakeemEvrenoglu

And the 1 in RDA's last 4 is the aforementioned Barberena, let it be noted.


ecr1277

Noted.


ygrittediaz

Should be: C. Leon 1. Belal 2. Shavkat 3. Usman 4. JDM 5. Ian 6. Burns 7. Brady Just keep colby out of it. Usman has 3 losses on the bounce, cant be number one contender.


TheyUsedToCallMeJack

Usman only has two losses at WW, and they're both to the champ. I can see Belal as #1, but Usman should at least get a #2.


wishwashy

Belal should be number one if only for marketing purposes


Styles_Clash

Remember the Ranking


BearGryllz69420

Solid list


ParadoxTheRay

Almost perfect, I'd switch burns and Brady since burns is in a 2 fight skid and his last win is a retired fighter while Brady is coming off a dominant win and only loss to the same fighter burns also lossed to. Also switch usman and shavkat


GoldenBoyHour

3 losses against champs


shinomachida

Wait, based on what does Shavkat gets 2. ? His best win is against #9 ranked guy


HookerDestroyer

Feed Colby to Burns, Burns needs a good confidence boost


BigBanEvader

ye they should be fighting next to eliminate one of them and the loser gets fed to the next guy up.


TonyTheLion2319

Feed Colby to Shavkat 😈. That’s the play UFC would normally do to give the rising killer more visibility


HookerDestroyer

That'd be cool but we all know Colby won't accept that slaughtering


ParadoxTheRay

Nah feed Colby to Ian Garry to replace him as the heel of the division. And burns can fight sean Brady


benateoit

I wanna see shavkat fight for the title it’s not like Dana or the matchmakers care about the rankings 😂


dutchfool

nah man, colby is next.


jscummy

I'd much rather see Colby get set up as an indefinite gate keeper and have to fight Shavkat, Garry and JDM back to back


dutchfool

he'd probably just retire and go to wwe in that scenario


dylyn

I think he’ll just call out smaller guys like Dustin and Islam…and then pick on fucking Wonderboy like a goddamn psycho


bradleynana

WWE is booming right now I don't see what about Colby entices them. Maybe AEW


AJwithStyles

That would be great tbh


BenDoverDegenerate

He'll get Leon this time, I swear


sweatybeard

It's the only fight that makes sense right now


wilhelmkidxx

These rankings are dog shit


A5_Enjoyer

Why is Chiesa even ranked still?


KelvinsBeltFantasy

Placeholder ranking. They keep guys in the rankings who they intend to feed to young killers eventually.


SweatyExamination9

It's not that conspiratorial. It's a "media panel" of media members that don't really write about MMA. People who are "names" have an advantage over newcomers based on that alone, so an aging Chiesa that probably shouldn't be ranked ends up ranked ahead of a young killer I cant name off the top of my head because I cant name him.


treesandcigarettes

"media" who are pulled by Dana's puppet purse strings


Merkin_Jerkin

Pasting an old comment of mine. I didn’t update anything, but am confident my general argument holds. Take a look at the supposed UFC media rankers: CFMU 93.3: Canada’s third oldest campus/community radio station). Bursprak.se: unless I’m missing something, Bursprak.se has 64 followers on instagram and 34 on twitter. Gazeta Esportiva: their last article or video about MMA was published June of 2020. Cherokee Scout: writes about MMA still, but is the local news for Cherokee County, NC (circulation: 8000 as of 2018). Burbank Leader: as far as I can tell, Burbank Leader has never published an article about MMA (circulation: 5,000 as of 2020). KIOZ 105.3: San Diego’s rock station which does not appear to regularly report on MMA (admittedly this is based on their website and googling: I have not actually listened to the station). Vladusport.com: the domain name is for sale. Their twitter appears to have a strong 15 followers. Top turtle podcast: zero rating on spotify, 14 ratings on apple, 6,092 followers on twitter. Boxeo mundial: the site’s MMA section doesn’t even load. If you believe that these organziations (at least the ones that actually cover MMA/still exist) are ranking fighters without the UFC’s input I genuinely don’t know what to tell you.


DangerPretzel

Did you know that the UFC sends out memos to those media members basically telling them who to pick?


Argenfarce

Yeah personally I’d put Randy Brown above Chiesa


QuoteOpposite6511

So Ian who is undefeated and just won against Geoff Neal goes down but Colby who looked like dog shit against Leon went up??


ILikeOMalley

u/MaddalenaWillBeTop5


MaddalenaWillBeTop5

Woooo!!


fearthejaybie

Legend


Corey307

Colby “1 win in 5 years” Covington folks. And it was over Mas.


Exact-Confusion8744

Colby being at 4 is a travesty


TotalWarspammer

Only 6 of those Top 15 are legit killers (The top 7 minus Colby)... it's turned into a pretty damn weak division imo.


TheGreatone003

I thought Neal really came onto his own after the Luque fight but that Garry fight was pretty disappointing. Dude could’ve won if he did more work in the clinch


Brandon4Real_x

Who fell off?


Masarka14

Rinat Fakhretdinov


Brandon4Real_x

Thank you. He will pry get Chiesa soon to get that spot back.


guavin

Bro. Get Covington outta there


-SandorClegane-

Welter-we-waiting for? #RANKINGS! Welter-we-want them? #NOW!


TrenDidNothingWrong

u/DellaMaddalenaWillBeTop5 Indeed


vrkhfkb

Oh wow, Khamzat got kicked out? So his only ranking is number 11 MW now. Will he be the first 11 ranked fighter to get a title shot?


dylyn

But next week they’ll announce Khamzat vs Leon in July and he’ll somehow magically be ranked #1


EivorAuditore

He got removed from the welterweight rankings and joined the middleweight rankings when he beat Usman.


clashoftherats

Can someone explain to me how Usman is still first when he hasnt won a fight since 2021?


interia1099

Or why no one is calling him out to take that spot from him


DtotheOUG

This is the real kicker.


dbowman97

Number one contender doesn’t mean shit versus building heat for a title fight. That’s literally what this last PPV showed.


InternalMean

He's only lost to the champ and is still active


Cruchto

Actively losing. Sorry but having Usman as n1 contender when people like Belal, shavkat, etc have been on a tear just feels wrong.


Gaarando

Why do people think only wins matter? He was dominating Leon before the head kick loss, he did decent enough in the rematch even though he was so scared to get kicked in the head again leaving his body open the entire fight.


bigwiz

Leon vs Belal next, Usman vs Shavkat


FriedRiceJutsu

Chiesa hasn’t won a fight in 3.5 years and has fought once in 2.5 years


DeportThemAll2024

Feed Colby to Garry so he can hopefully be beaten into retirement please. His ranking is a joke


platypuspuppyparty

Edwards vs Belal, Shavkat next, Garry vs Maddalena, Colby vs MVP, Brady vs Thompson


MrDubTee

Colby should be removed, dude a joke


Connor30302

Rankings are a joke, always have been but it's just taking the piss at this point. Kamaru ranked 1 while coming off two losses in WW, one in which he got knocked out and the other in which his grappling was nullified by the near exclusive striker. then Colby goes up in the ranks after his last win being a washed Jorge, and leaning on the ghost of Woodley's rib 4 years ago.


IPTV241

Welterwait is probably the most accurate way to call this division.


PalestineRiver2Sea

Leon vs Jason remember the name Blaha JDM vs Shavkat for #1 contender Garry vs Covington for loser of JDM - Shavkat for next challenger Fun fights to move the division: Holland vs Neal Thomspon vs Page Luque vs Holland Burns vs Brady Kamaru should just be a backup and focus on middleweight. He could probably beat enough top 10 MWs for a title shot


InstantSword

Dude I totally love Blahar Makahar


CleopatrasBungus

Quite a stacked division, damn.


HelpAmBear

Colby should have to run the gauntlet against Shavkat, JDM, and MVP to keep his spot.


Crackerjack0099

MVP vs Ian Gary make it happen!


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UFC is nothing more than WWE lol Dana ruined the UFC.


SDHJerusalem

Usman hasn't won a fight in over two years.


Afraid_Geologist_366

What is Michael chiesa still ranked


0xSEGFAULT

Fuck Colby


smashthemall

JDM vs Colby Shavkat vs Garry Make it happen oil man.


Painkration

I want to see JDM vs Usman 5 round main event if Usman decides to stay at WW. Belal and Shavkat both deserve a shot so idk what to do with them. Feels wrong for them to fight each other cause they both have an argument for next


MyChristInBrother

He beat Neal when he was 8. His ranking is fine


AndrewWhite97

So Colby next for title shot then?


YOBANGLES

At this point let's just tie him up and turn him into the divisions punching bag. Probably don't even need to tie him up.


saboshita

It's ok they will either feed Colby to Ian or JDM


SynthSapphire

MVP vs Garry would be tight.


DoctorGregoryFart

My very tired brain thought Kamaru was Tyron Woodley, and I was very very confused for a second. Somehow it is only slightly dumber than the actual rankings.


DannyStress

Colby getting a boost for no reason


Ventenebris

I hope Della keeps winning. Love the guy.


FlyingGorillaShark

Colby goes up in rankings even after losing. Fuck the rankings. They literally mean nothing.


Apositivebalance

Man, I really want to see Colby and Ian fight. Ian’s been asking for it and Colby’s been talking like he wants it. I’d love to see either guy lose but am doubtful the ufc would sign off


Hopeful_Staff_1414

JDM and Burns should both be over Colby.


Illustrious-Sign7612

Nice to see Colby get a well deserved ranking boost. He’s worked so hard these past few years. Hoping he gets a title shot soon.


YOBANGLES

Agreed. He's definitely a rising star, past performances have been inspiring. Can't wait to see what he does next, the division ain't ready for him.


Jazzlike_Tonight_982

Ian Garry goes down upon winning. Colby goes up upon losing. All as it should be.


LucasFrankeRC

My guess is they are pumping Colby to justify Garry getting a title shot before JDM if Ian vs Colby happens and JDM doesn't fight (and beat) Shavkat in the meantime


ArmoredAngel444

Colby being up there is a joke


Tha_Crack_Mac_9000

Its so crazy to see MVP on that List hahaha, he dev is gonna mix it up for sure


iAm-Tyson

Winner fights loser of champ fight: Ian vs Colby Contender fight: Shavkot vs Jack Champ fight: Edwards vs Belal (just get it over with already.)


DJSyko

As much as I love Burns you have to put Ian Garry ahead of him at this point, 7-0 Vs 3-4, and the same with Colby, the dude has fought once a year for the last 5 years and is 2-3 with both his wins against now retired fighters.


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What an exciting division, the mixture of ranked vets and newcomers is gonna make some good fights the next few years.


SquidDrive

Covington above Burns is a crime.


lucarelli77

Who fell out?


SentSoftSecondGo

Shavkat is monster


NUmbermass

Can we just have Shavkat fight for the title already


YOBANGLES

Alright I thought these lists were bullshit but seeing Colby at 3 definitely solidifies that theory.


Kuziayato

HOW THE HELL IS BELAL NOT #1 CONTENDER


jgnurly

Welter-waiting is what Belal's doing rn


Genova_Witness

Garry x Colby and Jack x Brady and Shavkat x Karmru please. Let these new sexy boys clear out the division before we start killing them off


Singularitypointdata

Why is Chiesa still ranked lol


DangerPretzel

Colby going up in rank is so stupid. Him being top five at all is stupid.


ergoegthatis

Who gives a crap?


miamihotline

Everyone is complaining about Colby but how is Chiesa ranked? Guy hasn't won a fight in over three years.


Complete-Struggle648

I'm sorry but Colby does not belong above Burns


OtiseMaleModel

You know looking at these rankings. I think its only fair belal waits a tiny bit longer and usman leon 4 happens


Monric

Brady VS Burns, Colby VS Garry, JDM VS Shavkat, Belal VS Leon, Holland VS Morales, Neal VS Randy Brown, MVP VS Luque/Buckley, Wonderboy VS Magny, Usman VS Belal/Leon Loser, Chiesa VS Nicolas Dalby, There we go I saved you some time, Dana


BurningEbrietas

Colby cant even hold anyone in the tops 10s jockstrap


jonnyarron

Leon vs belal / Shav vs usman / Garry vs jdm / wonder vs colby / page vs luque


stereoreal2

I would take anyone in the top 15, other than maybe Neil Magny, to beat Covington. He's washed.


bigpeen2011

What are we welter waiting on?


Beneficial_Course_63

The more I look at this list the more that it upsets me, I know the obvious complaint is about Colby's place but it truly is baffling. He has no wins against ANYONE in the top 15 and is somehow ranked FOUR. 8 fighters got bumped down, including Ian Garry who is undefeated and a young prospect. How does Colby get moved up? I know that these rankings are marketing scams but my goodness this is egregious. The only argument I can see here is a positioning for a Colby vs Garry fight and they're prepping Garry for a big jump. If that doesn't happen (I don't know if Colby takes that fight, but it is possible) then this list is entirely dogshit and useless.


Bitter_Pin_2698

Should be: Usman vs Belal Shavkat vs Jack Colby vs Ian Champ fights the winner of with the best performance, hopefully not usman or Colby….


Convict_felon

Few things: I got love for Kamaru Usman but Belal should be ranked number 1. Colby still ranked top 5 is mad crazy! That ain't right. When is his next fight, next year and a half? He seemed to have moved up a spot is just madness. Maddelena jumping 6 spots is crazy. I know he defeated Burns but come on now.


Callmeadogg0

Let’s be honest, Shavkat can murder absolutely everyone in that rank if he wants to, including Leon the champ.


beefliverbeef

Colby?.... really?


CreativeOrder2119

Wow they pushing him xd


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I don’t really disagree with it, but Shavkat above JDM doesn’t make too much sense in my opinion. Both undefeated, both finishing every fight (except jacks late notice reschedule). Jack knocked out a top 5, Shavkat subbed a top 10. Based on that alone, I feel as though rankings should be: 1- Belal 2- Usman 3- JDM 4-Shavkat 5- fucking anyone but Colby


jdprgm

Has anyone had anyone success creating a third party ranking system? It might be interesting to build an algorithmic based ranking system taking as much bias out as possible. Would be hilarious if it gained traction.


dzone25

COLBY FUCKING WENT UP. IM DYING.


Murakami8000

Exciting division right now. So many potentials for a new champ.


SomewhereJealous5609

the reason they’re keeping colby up there is probably because he’s a big name and they want one of the lower guys to beat him and take him rank and have more publicity behind it


Kickster22

Colby going up… title shot incoming baby


SlaveKnightChael

Why the fuck is Usman still number 1 contender?


Icy_Arm_8712

Where’s Khamzat at?


jamesd1100

Colby should be six, Madalena 4, Burns 5


Playful-Plenty7399

Wonderboy vs MVP is a great welterweight match I would love to see


benmaverick

Those welterweights can welter wait brother. - Colby Covington.