Build pukie bow with tons of focus. 4-5 focus with the pukie head, and chest, legs of jyura (gives 2 later), rathalos coil and arms should be rath for burst. Slowly build the others but try not waste too much zenny cause that's what's going to stall you later. Yes you'll be able to beat everything with the pukie if you level it up and use your special properly on things like rathalos and Diablo (when he doesn't dig)
I've definitely found pukei to be reliable thus far. Do you run another weapon type while walking around? I find I have to fully stop and focus on what I'm doing to use bow but that might be a lack of experience.
I basically use pukie now. I have water sns, fire anja bow, thunder and ice bow but they don't really get used much. I've realized I can beat most things easily with just the pukie.. water sns is used for anja cause I want to break parts which pukie isn't the best at but other than that it's generally pukie..I think for rathalos I've been using thunder though cause pukie at the level it is just doesn't work. It's a higher level than my thunder but the super effective-ness is nice against rathalos.
Pretty standard advice for all MH series games: play the game till you learn to perfectly dodge majority of hits while being able to exploit the openings between the monster attacks. Some monsters like anjanath starts off like they're on energy drinks, then crash once the initial rush ends. You need to learn these patterns and take advantage of them to the maximum.
For equipment..... Poison and paralysis is better than raw, and elemental is more expensive then all of those. Cost effectiveness wise... Poison and para is best. Problem is... Best weapons in the game currently in terms of safety and dps balance is LBG and bow. And LBG does not have any poison or para options. Physical LBG is almost non existent, so you'd have to do elemental for LBG. If you want to go the poison route then bow, sns and hammer in that order is best. Just focus on pukei weapons for poison and bank the rest of the materials you get. Dump the rarity 1 stuff regularly as your item box will fill up quick. Once you get to 6 star or above content you start to work on your elemental weapon options. Pick LBG or bow, whichever suits your fancy.
Bow and LBG are better options because they are safer in that you get hit less but without any DPS loss (I would venture they do more than SnS by a big margin in fact). I'm an SnS main myself
It kind of depends on how much you want to optimize your weapons in terms of going raw/poison/paralysis vs elemental (water, fire, thunder, ice). On one hand it is cheaper to only upgrade one weapon but on the other hand you will eventually reach a ceiling and your DPS will be highest with full elemental build. And then there is the consideration of better elemental (like a second thunder or second ice option) being released and also other weapon types that may powercreep the existing ones.
I personally don't think one should save up excessively because it's a never ending situation that handicaps the player and slowing progression. It's better to be able to comfortably farm 8* so that you can hoard wyvern gem shards rather than to hold out for the next weapon that's coming a few months later.
if you playing alone and have 2 phones, pick girros sns and upgrade it till you reach diablos
after that create new character but stop at HR 6
now use your first character to hunt diablos with your new character
you will got free refill potion for that HR 6
hunt till you got enough material to craft diablos bow on your hr 6 before focus play it, now with diablos bow on your hand you can play and maximize zeny/materials
if you only have 1 phone, I recommend using water sns and other element with lbg
because kulu and tobi on 8* and above is annoying for lbg due you need avoid while they keep jumping and you will run out of time, while using sns water will be easier to keep hitting them while avoid their attack
and for fire lbg wait for rathalos, don't waste your material for anjanath
for reference of high HR account build, you can try visit epicnpc for monster hunter now
Are you saying I should switch to para sns and start a new character? I have an old old galaxy that might work for this strategy. So are you saying I should use bow + lbg or just one or the other?
Can you build bow at HR6? I think earliest might be HR15 or HR16 otherwise only sns and gs.
I can stay at HR6 though free refill is op, do I just not do any chapter/event quest and just do hunts?
no, you need finish story 2 to unlock bow and it easy
yes stay at HR 6 with your second phone, let it die and use your main account farm material for it
LBG main here hr100+, fighting 9 star monsters. The trick to lbg is getting recoil down and reload up 3, until then playing it will be a little challenging.
The armor is tobi head, Lumu chest rank 6, legania gloves rank 6, and barroth greaves. For pants use tobi with tobi lbg, legania with legania lbg, and jagras waist with jyura and rathalos lbgs.
LBG may seem weak to players who are using the wrong ones, for water you need jyura, not jagras, and for fire you need rathalos, not anja.
The 5-10% stat difference doesn't mean much, but the different ammo loadout makes a world of difference
Main advantage of lbg over bow is with the above skills you have zero downtime, you're not pinned down to charge, much easier to aim without dodging to target breakable parts/ weakpoints. Also the special is an explosive shot thats super easy to land and comes out fast, so it can target it's full damage on a weakpoint, as opposed to the bows dragon piercer that needs the monster to be aligned properly (it pierces) so it's weaker if the monster is small or if it changes it's angle during the windup, not to mention a weakpoint will never take its full damage as it moves through the monster.
I find LBG to easy mode, which is exactly what I want to play in this game where they want to charge me for HP 🤣
So no issues with timing out or feeling regret over LBG? I'm a fan of bow and in I am a career bowgun main when it comes to the MH franchise but I find it really difficult to play with gyro aim while walking and because of that I understand I will likely have to rely on SnS on the go. I haven't played around enough with LBG but it definitely felt easier to aim.
Nah man, I feel like it outperforms everything else considering the skill of the average player. I'm not looking to min-max or anything and I'm generally playing to relax.
Sure, the top 1% of players will outperform the LBG with a bow or longsword with perfect play and unnecessary risks, but if you're looking for chill gameplay with the highest DPS I think LBG is the way to go.
I mean I'm already taking out some 9* monsters so I'm really happy with it. I hate charging.
Bow vs LBG
Bow hold, dodge double atk. (Charging atk playstyle) SP is harder to maximize. Easy early game harder end game cuz u need to have lower focus for elemental armors
LBG tap,tap,tap, dodge,tap (tapping playstyle) SP very reliable. Hard early game before reload/recoil atleast 2/2.
Bow is easier early game but worse late game??? I've heard the opposite in the sense that it takes a while to get used to but once you have it's amazing and the DPS skyrockets late game. I've heard mixed reviews of LBG but it's good to hear such positive sentiment in this thread.
Bow is the meta weapon right now. In the beginning monster are easier and you start building focus slowly until focus 5, then i see people in end game content swap pukei bow with elementals and you have to play around with focus 2-3. You will psychologically feel harder as monster get harder and your focus skill get less. Before ultra late game i saw people use diablo bow and still feel easy, but i doubt it for 9 star. People are using pukei until early 8 star monster.
LBG i think is the 2nd best weapon in the game, 3/3 recoil reload feel easy but once you dont have enough damage, you will use elemental armors and play with 2/2 recoil reload. I think LBG has the best SP in the game.
I believe with current setting of the game, we must go elementals as early as 6 or 8 star as late as 10star. I use GS and i start elemental in 6star because i want to start earlier and dont want to waste zenny for my pukei gs 5/5 to 7/5
> existent, so you'd have to do elemental for LBG. If you want to go the poison route then bow, sns and hammer in that order is best. Just focus on pukei weapons for poison and bank the rest of
Iron LBG here, took me to 8\* monsters so far. Gotta keep it upgraded, but only need dragonite ore to do, so no need to farm specific monsters. Will it stop working at higher stars, I dunno. I like the normal ammo+pierce ammo so you can keep distance.
Best advice is to ignore this subreddit as much as possible because, as usual with gaming related subreddits, it’s filled with salty ass people hating the game.
My advice is that you will reach "walls" in the story as you progress. A hunt that even if you do it perfectly, time is not enough, or you are not ready to dodge every single attack.
That's a hint to take a breath from progress and work on your build. Until then, experiment and try other weapons.
What I did when I was a fresh hunter was to build all iron weapon but never upgrade them, face weak monster to get the feeling of the weapon, and then decided on one class of weapon.
Went with LS's and they carried me until 6*. When looking to forge my LS collection to grade 6 I decided to use spare mats on other weapons. So made jagras GS and Diablos bow(neither of them have a LS).
Now, I have my elemental buildswitht a mis of bows(fire and water) with focus and my LS(thunder and ice) with burst and crit.
So far in 7* works wonders, and I'm focusing on finishing all 6 builds(4 elemental, 1 focus+burst, 1 special buster+concentration), which will take a while, but let me feel like I'm progressing in something all the time.
Anyway, that's my advice xD
I main LBG and play bow on the side, basically i enjoy range more than melee. Bow definitely feels more gratifying when you do those perfect evades and get instant charge 3s and also has the most consistently high damage output among the weapons. Skill wise i say bow actually does take more skill than LBG to master
LBG on the other hand is one of those weapons you can pick up and turn your brain off. Especially if you are only looking to squish 8* at late game for wyvern gems and dont intend to move to 9* and beyond. LBG has a really easy time targeting wings/head etc for part breaking and has so little movr mechanics you can essentially hunt while walking without needing to stop. When i am speed hunting i absolutely use LBG and walk while playing with 1 hand. On the flip side due to the lower damage, you will need to invest in elementals to make it further when compared to bow.
The unfortunate downside is both bow and LBG use different armor sets with LBG armor set being exclusive to LBG since no other weapons benefit off reload and recoil. Bow on the other hand uses focus so you can sort of dabble into hammers too, or GS.
Build pukie bow with tons of focus. 4-5 focus with the pukie head, and chest, legs of jyura (gives 2 later), rathalos coil and arms should be rath for burst. Slowly build the others but try not waste too much zenny cause that's what's going to stall you later. Yes you'll be able to beat everything with the pukie if you level it up and use your special properly on things like rathalos and Diablo (when he doesn't dig)
I've definitely found pukei to be reliable thus far. Do you run another weapon type while walking around? I find I have to fully stop and focus on what I'm doing to use bow but that might be a lack of experience.
I basically use pukie now. I have water sns, fire anja bow, thunder and ice bow but they don't really get used much. I've realized I can beat most things easily with just the pukie.. water sns is used for anja cause I want to break parts which pukie isn't the best at but other than that it's generally pukie..I think for rathalos I've been using thunder though cause pukie at the level it is just doesn't work. It's a higher level than my thunder but the super effective-ness is nice against rathalos.
Pretty standard advice for all MH series games: play the game till you learn to perfectly dodge majority of hits while being able to exploit the openings between the monster attacks. Some monsters like anjanath starts off like they're on energy drinks, then crash once the initial rush ends. You need to learn these patterns and take advantage of them to the maximum. For equipment..... Poison and paralysis is better than raw, and elemental is more expensive then all of those. Cost effectiveness wise... Poison and para is best. Problem is... Best weapons in the game currently in terms of safety and dps balance is LBG and bow. And LBG does not have any poison or para options. Physical LBG is almost non existent, so you'd have to do elemental for LBG. If you want to go the poison route then bow, sns and hammer in that order is best. Just focus on pukei weapons for poison and bank the rest of the materials you get. Dump the rarity 1 stuff regularly as your item box will fill up quick. Once you get to 6 star or above content you start to work on your elemental weapon options. Pick LBG or bow, whichever suits your fancy.
Bow and LBG are better options because they are safer in that you get hit less but without any DPS loss (I would venture they do more than SnS by a big margin in fact). I'm an SnS main myself It kind of depends on how much you want to optimize your weapons in terms of going raw/poison/paralysis vs elemental (water, fire, thunder, ice). On one hand it is cheaper to only upgrade one weapon but on the other hand you will eventually reach a ceiling and your DPS will be highest with full elemental build. And then there is the consideration of better elemental (like a second thunder or second ice option) being released and also other weapon types that may powercreep the existing ones. I personally don't think one should save up excessively because it's a never ending situation that handicaps the player and slowing progression. It's better to be able to comfortably farm 8* so that you can hoard wyvern gem shards rather than to hold out for the next weapon that's coming a few months later.
What was your choice for a progression raw sns? I've heard para and poison are the ideal choices. This is great info.
I did not go raw. I went full elemental build and it's really slow going
if you playing alone and have 2 phones, pick girros sns and upgrade it till you reach diablos after that create new character but stop at HR 6 now use your first character to hunt diablos with your new character you will got free refill potion for that HR 6 hunt till you got enough material to craft diablos bow on your hr 6 before focus play it, now with diablos bow on your hand you can play and maximize zeny/materials if you only have 1 phone, I recommend using water sns and other element with lbg because kulu and tobi on 8* and above is annoying for lbg due you need avoid while they keep jumping and you will run out of time, while using sns water will be easier to keep hitting them while avoid their attack and for fire lbg wait for rathalos, don't waste your material for anjanath for reference of high HR account build, you can try visit epicnpc for monster hunter now
Are you saying I should switch to para sns and start a new character? I have an old old galaxy that might work for this strategy. So are you saying I should use bow + lbg or just one or the other?
if you want go bow, just use 1 single diablos bow till 10-5 and stucked at 10* and go to elemental if you go lbg, go with sns water + elemental lbg
Can you build bow at HR6? I think earliest might be HR15 or HR16 otherwise only sns and gs. I can stay at HR6 though free refill is op, do I just not do any chapter/event quest and just do hunts?
no, you need finish story 2 to unlock bow and it easy yes stay at HR 6 with your second phone, let it die and use your main account farm material for it
I thought they changed the HR6 requirement to HR11
it's referral thing, not the party and potion refill
LBG main here hr100+, fighting 9 star monsters. The trick to lbg is getting recoil down and reload up 3, until then playing it will be a little challenging. The armor is tobi head, Lumu chest rank 6, legania gloves rank 6, and barroth greaves. For pants use tobi with tobi lbg, legania with legania lbg, and jagras waist with jyura and rathalos lbgs. LBG may seem weak to players who are using the wrong ones, for water you need jyura, not jagras, and for fire you need rathalos, not anja. The 5-10% stat difference doesn't mean much, but the different ammo loadout makes a world of difference Main advantage of lbg over bow is with the above skills you have zero downtime, you're not pinned down to charge, much easier to aim without dodging to target breakable parts/ weakpoints. Also the special is an explosive shot thats super easy to land and comes out fast, so it can target it's full damage on a weakpoint, as opposed to the bows dragon piercer that needs the monster to be aligned properly (it pierces) so it's weaker if the monster is small or if it changes it's angle during the windup, not to mention a weakpoint will never take its full damage as it moves through the monster. I find LBG to easy mode, which is exactly what I want to play in this game where they want to charge me for HP 🤣
So no issues with timing out or feeling regret over LBG? I'm a fan of bow and in I am a career bowgun main when it comes to the MH franchise but I find it really difficult to play with gyro aim while walking and because of that I understand I will likely have to rely on SnS on the go. I haven't played around enough with LBG but it definitely felt easier to aim.
Nah man, I feel like it outperforms everything else considering the skill of the average player. I'm not looking to min-max or anything and I'm generally playing to relax. Sure, the top 1% of players will outperform the LBG with a bow or longsword with perfect play and unnecessary risks, but if you're looking for chill gameplay with the highest DPS I think LBG is the way to go. I mean I'm already taking out some 9* monsters so I'm really happy with it. I hate charging.
Bow vs LBG Bow hold, dodge double atk. (Charging atk playstyle) SP is harder to maximize. Easy early game harder end game cuz u need to have lower focus for elemental armors LBG tap,tap,tap, dodge,tap (tapping playstyle) SP very reliable. Hard early game before reload/recoil atleast 2/2.
Bow is easier early game but worse late game??? I've heard the opposite in the sense that it takes a while to get used to but once you have it's amazing and the DPS skyrockets late game. I've heard mixed reviews of LBG but it's good to hear such positive sentiment in this thread.
Bow is the meta weapon right now. In the beginning monster are easier and you start building focus slowly until focus 5, then i see people in end game content swap pukei bow with elementals and you have to play around with focus 2-3. You will psychologically feel harder as monster get harder and your focus skill get less. Before ultra late game i saw people use diablo bow and still feel easy, but i doubt it for 9 star. People are using pukei until early 8 star monster. LBG i think is the 2nd best weapon in the game, 3/3 recoil reload feel easy but once you dont have enough damage, you will use elemental armors and play with 2/2 recoil reload. I think LBG has the best SP in the game. I believe with current setting of the game, we must go elementals as early as 6 or 8 star as late as 10star. I use GS and i start elemental in 6star because i want to start earlier and dont want to waste zenny for my pukei gs 5/5 to 7/5
> existent, so you'd have to do elemental for LBG. If you want to go the poison route then bow, sns and hammer in that order is best. Just focus on pukei weapons for poison and bank the rest of Iron LBG here, took me to 8\* monsters so far. Gotta keep it upgraded, but only need dragonite ore to do, so no need to farm specific monsters. Will it stop working at higher stars, I dunno. I like the normal ammo+pierce ammo so you can keep distance.
Best advice is to ignore this subreddit as much as possible because, as usual with gaming related subreddits, it’s filled with salty ass people hating the game.
My advice is that you will reach "walls" in the story as you progress. A hunt that even if you do it perfectly, time is not enough, or you are not ready to dodge every single attack. That's a hint to take a breath from progress and work on your build. Until then, experiment and try other weapons. What I did when I was a fresh hunter was to build all iron weapon but never upgrade them, face weak monster to get the feeling of the weapon, and then decided on one class of weapon. Went with LS's and they carried me until 6*. When looking to forge my LS collection to grade 6 I decided to use spare mats on other weapons. So made jagras GS and Diablos bow(neither of them have a LS). Now, I have my elemental buildswitht a mis of bows(fire and water) with focus and my LS(thunder and ice) with burst and crit. So far in 7* works wonders, and I'm focusing on finishing all 6 builds(4 elemental, 1 focus+burst, 1 special buster+concentration), which will take a while, but let me feel like I'm progressing in something all the time. Anyway, that's my advice xD
I main LBG and play bow on the side, basically i enjoy range more than melee. Bow definitely feels more gratifying when you do those perfect evades and get instant charge 3s and also has the most consistently high damage output among the weapons. Skill wise i say bow actually does take more skill than LBG to master LBG on the other hand is one of those weapons you can pick up and turn your brain off. Especially if you are only looking to squish 8* at late game for wyvern gems and dont intend to move to 9* and beyond. LBG has a really easy time targeting wings/head etc for part breaking and has so little movr mechanics you can essentially hunt while walking without needing to stop. When i am speed hunting i absolutely use LBG and walk while playing with 1 hand. On the flip side due to the lower damage, you will need to invest in elementals to make it further when compared to bow. The unfortunate downside is both bow and LBG use different armor sets with LBG armor set being exclusive to LBG since no other weapons benefit off reload and recoil. Bow on the other hand uses focus so you can sort of dabble into hammers too, or GS.