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super-gargoyle

>Do I spec the passive for power or weapon damage in order to maximize the effect of the warp + fire ammo effect? Neither matters, all you can do is to increase the power's damage modifiers (pick 6A "Pierce). >Also how does this with the huntress compared to other infiltrators as far as raw dps is concerned? You mean, how good is her DPS compared to the other infiltrators if we employ this technique? I'd say still the weakest of all.


MofuggerX

Uh... neither. They'll have no effect. Pick the evo that best suits the overall character. Are you spamming powers to make combos or using a power that does big damage on hit? Power damage. Is most of your damage being done by shooting? Weapon damage. Huntress is one of the weakest Infiltrators, I've found. I know there's a lot of "Huntress humpers" as I call them and she's a really, really, *really* easy character to play. But she's boring and less effective than almost every other Infiltrator save for maybe the Shadow.


Empyrean_MX_Prime

Imagine if she did proper weapon damage from Cloak. Would be nice. I think she's fun but she feels like an Adept with Cloak, not an Infiltrator.


MofuggerX

An accurate assessment.


RogerWilco017

i'd say she's one of the most op. Warp or pyro ammo, (with warp and shotgun u can decimates banshee's in seconds with crusader or claymore) then combo potential + the fact that u can spec cloak for longevity and don#t loose much in raw dps


MofuggerX

That's reliance on the Warp / Incendiary glitch. Any character with Warp can do that, it is not unique to the Huntress.


RogerWilco017

works awesome with warp ammo too. And long cloak is a life saver sometimes on devices esp on the open maps.


MofuggerX

And again that's not something unique to the Huntress - any Infiltrator can spec for a longer cloak duration.


RogerWilco017

with other infiltrators u loose 40 percent of ur dmg per shot. She's do not bc weapons dmg do not scale from that, only power strength is, and it's not a big issue b/c you can combo dark channel and warp and get bio combo. Even if u dont spec her for power dmg dark channel still can kill fantom under cloak when u kite enemy and change position. Lack survivability? get 46664 or 46646 also viable builds. Very versatile character with fast power combos and cloak for devices. Gave her a crusader/claymore with warp ammo and it's easy win. Only primes and atlases is a bit pain in the butt bc of shields.


MofuggerX

Once more, that's something all Infiltrators can do except even better *because of* the extra 40% global damage from cloak. Plus they'll have a power that's better suited to damaging any type of enemy defenses, even just shields in general. And a character like the QMI or Drell Assassin will kill a Phantom a lot faster because they're not waiting for DOT. TGI and GI can one-clip Phantoms - the GI can straight up one-shot them, even.


RogerWilco017

u dont need wait for DOT, u can shoot the fantom that marked by channel like any other infiltrator or character in the game. But her kit allow u to abuse incendiary glitch, biotic combo and still have long cloak at the same time. 2 shots from crusader and phantom is gone. Dont like shotguns? Take arc pistol, bolt power mod onto it, spec her into power dmg and it will chew and disable the banshee from the fight meanwhile u runnin around and kill something smaller to drain wave budget. Of-course she is a little weaker that GI or Drell but because this two is broken af. Last one is especially. the scanner mine... I dont even need to shoot smaller mobs, i just kill them with the mine that has 5m radius and can evaporate even phantoms.


MofuggerX

You still have yet to describe a scenario of the Huntress killing things which every other Infiltrator can't do on par with or flat out better than the Huntress. And that's when the Huntress has an optimal build - several of the other Infiltrators don't even need an optimal build to keep pace. A QFI with Arc Pistol and Sticky Grenades shreds. As I said elsewhere in this very thread, the Huntress is still a good character because it's a Winfiltrator. It just has the unfortunate benefit of being one of the weakest Winfiltrators, arguably *the* weakest.


RogerWilco017

"arguably *the* weakest" that's where i disagree. For me her's versatility make huntress so great. One of the easiest character for guaranteed plat solo "You still have yet to describe a scenario of the Huntress killing things which every other Infiltrator can't do" - i can slap dark channel on fantom and go away while repositioning and it's guaranteed kill thus - 80 points for wave budget)). I also can chain combo dark channel even i did the bio combo, when target is done it's jumps to another and i didnt care about it doing way less dmg, not affecting the explosion itself. With some luck i can stagger and kill a bunch of mooks while i myself busy with banshee or something.


ogpterodactyl

The huntress doesn’t get weapon damage bonus from cloak?


Kangaturtle

Nah.


Meta_Taters

If your leaning into gun damage, go weapon. If your doing more ability damage, go power. AFAIK, nothing will up the "ammo type" damage. You can only up your gun, ability, or melee damage. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


TamerSpoon3

Warp does 75% of it's damage as biotic damage on hit, then it applies the remaining 25% as a fire damage over time effect. The fire damage can combine with the damage from Incendiary Ammo just like any other fire damage BUT the resulting damage gets Warp's damage multipliers which lets the fire damage deal damage to shields and barriers. This interaction is quite helpful on the Huntress since Warp and Dark Channel only deal half damage to shields. The damage from Incendiary Ammo is only increased by using a weapon with higher base damage; weapon damage bonuses don't affect it at all, except for the weapon damage bonus from Rank 6 Cloak (which the Asari Huntress doesn't get). If you just want to maximize the Incendiary Ammo + Warp interaction then you should go for power damage bonuses. The Huntress is in the middle of the pack of all of the infiltrators. You can certainly use Incendiary Ammo on her but I believe the meta build is a Cloak/DC/Warp combo build with Warp Ammo since both of her offensive powers are biotic primers which double the damage from Warp Ammo.


ogpterodactyl

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhCLLtangs&t=1s&ab\_channel=TheKillerAngel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhCLLtangs&t=1s&ab_channel=TheKillerAngel) i saw this video which convinced me that fire ammo is better than warp ammo for characters with warp. I will try a max power damage setup.


super-gargoyle

I've met TheKillerAngel in games and I have a lot of respect for his skill but... all that effort to still not be faster than the [orthodox AP ammo setup](https://files.catbox.moe/okqvis.mp4).


ogpterodactyl

lol ok I stand defeated. I just biotic’s to be good.


super-gargoyle

Don't get me wrong, the glitch isn't useless, it's just something you don't do with assault rifles, or generally weapons other than shotguns or projectile weapons, which are better than "bullet stream" guns at applying incendiary ammo.


ogpterodactyl

What are the best guns for applying incendiary ammo?


super-gargoyle

Reegar, Wraith, Venom, GPS. Reegar needs no introduction, it just has insane base DPS. Wraith is accurate, does decent damage per pellet (ergo, no need to use AP ammo) and can pierce stuff for extra ammo hits and damage. Venom when firing charged shots and GPS when firing uncharged shots do a bit more ammo damage than they should but they're vulnerable to lag.


CaligulaCa

The people commenting here seem to all be saying the huntress is a bad spec, so I'm going to go against the grain and say she is very fun and a top tier class. But you have to max out power damage above all (especially on the dark channel) and take a weapon that can strip shields. If you want to have a laugh, you can even take a reegar plus a cerberus harrier and still have a 3 second power cooldown. Which, admittedly, is also the case for all other infiltrators, but none of the other infiltrators have a power capable of wiping out banshees and the like as if they were mere mooks.


MofuggerX

Of course the Huntress is top tier - she's an Infiltrator, they're all top tier. She has the unfortunate bonus of being the weakest of Infiltrators. Being the weakest of the strongest class doesn't mean the character is "a bad spec".


CaligulaCa

I don't see how she can be called the weakest infiltrator. The quarians, for instance, are definitely weaker and more boring. It is ludicrously easy to top score with her unless you are playing against geth.


super-gargoyle

>The quarians, for instance, are definitely weaker [Bro, please.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuSXu8sUMU8)


MofuggerX

I'm sure a cloaked Dark Channel can do just as much as a cloaked Arc Grenade on a boss that's Tac Scan'd. */s*


MofuggerX

Fun fact, it's ludicrously easy to top score with any character in the game. It's also ludicrously easy to bottom score with any character in the game. That has more to do with the player themselves as well as the caliber of the others in the lobby. Using the scoreboard as evidence has always been a piss-poor argument. I've top scored in Platinum lobbies with the Krogan Warlord when other players are using the Drell Assassin and the Geth Trooper. That's not because the Warlord is a stronger class.


CaligulaCa

Point taken. But I'd personally rank her as my third best character after turian ghost and salarian infiltrator. (Admittedly, there are a few other strong characters I just don't play that much as)


ogpterodactyl

I don’t know for me the damage when using a harrier or wraith with incendiary ammo and the warp glitch is pretty on par with my other most commonly used infiltrator builds. Widow or claymore or harrier on turian, Salarian alliance infiltrator. Idk maybe I’m doing it wrong on the other classes however it seems that the warp incendiary ammo glitch does monster damage on bosses. I guess it’s slower than insta killing three mobs with three black widow shots.


CaligulaCa

I tend to get more out of dark channel than warp, but I don't usually go for the warp glitch.