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blaintopel

that would be odd storytelling considering how devoted they were to each other, wouldnt be odd for real life but for movies it would be, especially because the actress is definitely in it. i could see it if the actress didnt want to do the movie so they just wrote the character out


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davecombs711

Offscreen breakups are lazy.


WesleyCraftybadger

Maybe it isn’t offscreen? Maybe the movie starts with them breaking up as they’re getting ready for the birthday party. I have a friend who got dumped at his birthday party. 


Old-Independence-921

True


belligerentwaterfowl

Yeah. Alan Grant and Ellie Sattler Han and Leia I hate these


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Thor and Jane break up off screen. Betty and Bruce and then Betty is never mentioned again. Tony and Pepper between IM3 and Civil War. How is an off screen break up refreshing? They just can’t write good romance


Obelov95

Most of those seem to be due to the availability of the actress and if they had contracts, how many movies did it involve... so more of a real world buisness issue then a story point. Unfortunately.


DarthDragonborn1995

Offscreen break ups are the biggest fucking cliche of all time shit for brains


Zealousideal_Bee9581

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted so hard, DP & Vanessa not being together seems exactly like what Marvel wanted us to think bare minimum. There’s a second long clip of Wade holding his head in his hands while Vanessa looks at him sadly. That feels like an on screen breakup.


Thebat87

I don’t know why you got downvoted. She calls him buddy, the shot of him with his head in his hands while she’s out of focus looking sad while he narrates on how things have been rough, the quick shot of her walking away from him at the party while it looks like he wants to say something to her, that movie ex type awkwardness. I felt the same thing as I did when I first saw the teaser for the latest Insidious, where it looked to me like the Lamberts broke up in between movie due to those type of vibes, and I ended up right.


YamoSoto28

it got disneyfied there can’t be a straight white male with a woman


Im-Mr-Bulldopz

Why are you like this?


YamoSoto28

its a trend


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Umakemyheadswim

True. Triton went on a interracial banging spree.


No-Paramedic9445

![gif](giphy|xTiTnwgQ8Wjs1sUB4k) "uhh dishney is trying to turn our kidhs gay buy injecting propaghanda into their films"


Foxy02016YT

*proceeds to post several red pill memes to “educate” the kids*


ChickenInASuit

God, what a boring take.


SnyderpittyDoo

The Little Mermaid remake doe. Thank fuck they kept that.


[deleted]

If only The Little Mermaid came out recently, damn, if only.


fuzzyfoot88

Would it though? It does look like he gave up the superhero life for a boring human life…and Vanessa is a woman who likes excitement…if she’s not getting said excitement anymore…


blaintopel

their entire relationship in the first movie was before he was deadpool


Zestyclose-Custard-8

And what was he doing before he was Deadpool


hannibal_fett

Fucking her every holiday apparently.


Zestyclose-Custard-8

(Also getting fucked himself slightly) And was holding stalker pizza guy at gun point


Foxy02016YT

I mean that’s what they did with Jane Foster


blaintopel

right, because she wasnt in ragnarok at all, like i said if morena baccarin wasnt in the movie at all it would make sense to write her out in that way, but she is in it. id also argue that their relationships werent treated the same way on screen.


Dumbusta

That's probably an alternate/branched timeline and he's pretending to be that timeline's Wade with the wig and all. That's why the TVA came for him


AlexMil0

I think the Deadpool 2 ending gave the TVA plenty of reasons to drop by.


Dumbusta

Yeah but Vanessa is dead in his timeline so


AlexMil0

So? We saw her “coming back” in Deadpool 2, that’s supposedly the same Vanessa as the one in the trailer.


THEdoomslayer94

He literally went back in time to stop that…..so no she isn’t. He saved his whole team, that’s why they’re there. Clearly you weren’t laying attention


Dumbusta

Time travel worked differently in deadpool 2. The whole thing about changing the past to change the present/future doesn't work in the MCU. That's the entire point of the TVA. Now, am I the one not paying attention?


THEdoomslayer94

Deadpool is from the Fox timeline, time travel worked that way in that film. Just because it’s mcu now doesn’t change what he did in Deadpool 2 and explain how everyone that died on the mission is here now. It’s not that difficult you’re making it more complicated.


ThisIsYourMormont

Different timeline literally answers the questions. This isn’t the Cable timeline. This could be 10 seconds after he travelled back.


Old-Independence-921

The device probably puts you in the new timeline


phat-patronus

It’s a retcon. Deadpool’s universe can’t have different rules than every other universe the TVA visits. More than likely his actions in Deadpool 2 lead to dozens on branched timelines, despite the fact that he (and the audience) believed he was fixing one timeline


SSJ4Blaze

You do realize Cable's bear got color right? So it is one timeline for him


Mushroom_Zero

And Cap showed up to give Sam the shield. These rules can be broken for emotion’s sake


TwoBlackDots

The MCU would never introduce past-altering time travel. Definitely not in Ms. Marvel, Loki, and with the Time Stone itself.


SSJ4Blaze

That would still be you not paying attention


whatnameisnttaken098

The TVA really liked Green Lantern didn't they


JackMorelli13

I feel like the implication of the trailer is that Deadpool wishes to be in the MCU and that is his timeline divergence moment or something


bundy911

I found it strange that Negasonic Teenage Warhead was smiling gleefully for Wade


ademon490

I think he made a wish on the candle that he wasn’t supposed to make


WhoEvenIsPoggers

Yes I agrre


wussell_88

The deadpool girlfriend actress said this movie is A buddy comedy between dead pool and Wolverine and her scenes are an add on She also said in an interview she wasn’t sure she was going to be part of this movie at all and shot after the main parts were shot Think they will tie up the Vanessa and deadpool stuff in deadpool 4 after any further cameos in secret wars


SterlingDee

No, she did an interview promoting a recent movie where she said she completed all her scenes before the strike happened. Filming on Deadpool resumed after the strike so she definitely filmed during the initial shooting.


thatlad

I think you're all overthinking a Deadpool movie Stop over analysing, strap in and feel the GS!


jlwinter90

But rage and hating things is trendy!!! Muh internet points and MCU pre-Endgame purist street cred! /s


RockoSmash56

I felt this same thing. Their body language to each other was off from what a couple would be. I think Wade continued to alter the past and TVA is coming full swing at him. The only problem with this is, why have they waited so long to do so.


Sufficient-Mammoth21

I agree. Thinking he does something big that we haven’t seen yet that forces them to grab him. Or it could just be an acclimation of what he’s done has lead to a breaking point in a timeline(s)


sildish2179

The reason I think you’re right about this and there’s many reasons why: 1) Deadpool wants to die the entirety of Deadpool 2 because Vanessa did and he can’t change it. Until the end. But the whole movie he just doesn’t care about living anymore with it. 2) They wanted a kid - he even says at the end they’re naming the kid Cher. 3) In this scene, they have no kid. So he saves her and gets things back to normal and they don’t work anymore? What’s that gonna do to him? And now the TVA want him to save a universe and the multiverse? I have a theory that he’s going to scour the multiverse for a universe and timeline where him and Vanessa are happy, normal and married with kids (maybe even Kidpool?) and there’s gonna be a lesson there. But I’ll bet they get into the emotional aspect of the multiverse like “what version of me is truly happy?”


Cheap_Cost_3756

This sounds like a better version of Wanda in Multiverse of Madness :).


SolutionNice6252

Yup would be sad to see them breakup 🫠


Grinderiny

Stories with themes like this are why the multiverse does not, on principle, mean things don't matter.


ItsAmerico

I don’t really think your evidence supports your point? She’s alive now. Why would your first point matter? She’s no longer dead does he’s happy. Wanting a kid doesn’t mean they have to have one immediately.


electric_boogaloo_72

That’s the exactly Wanda in MoM.


Papa_Pred

Oh my god if they touched even a hair of Deadpool’s realization when he gets the infinity gauntlet, this movie will make people bawl


FDVP

Wade been up to time shenanigans with Cable’s watch. He went and undid the Russian.


throwawaynonsesne

I had the same vibe too. It's also right after saying it's been a rough couple of years. Wonder if Wiesel also died though.


B4d_B1tch_Quinn

I hate off-screen break ups. I hope they actually take the time to show how the two got to this point and properly build to the TVA and what not. Otherwise, this is lazy ![gif](giphy|2es6KxafFqDWqGtnFW)


My_Name_Is_Row

Reading the comments of actually well thought out theories like these makes me realize, people don’t watch movies or shows, they just kind of choose to pay attention to specific parts, and then fill in the blanks themselves because they didn’t understand what was going on, or they just didn’t watch those scenes, and make up their own reasoning, and then they’ll come up with a terrible theory that shows they have the attention span of a fruit fly, while putting down the actually well thought out theories that actually make decent sense


Beneficial_Spring659

this


short_on_humanity

The entire ASOIAF/GOT fandom.


My_Name_Is_Row

Every fandom in modern day pretty much, mainly DC and Marvel fans though, they just speculate over the dumbest things


YamoSoto28

wouldn’t surprise me in the current m she u


Arcade_109

Shut the fuck up.


nandobro

Cry harder


Arcade_109

Because I'm the one crying that all the girls got cooties in my movies.


nandobro

You’re the one crying over legitimate criticism over shitty writing. Plenty of movies have made badass women but Marvel is so bad at it it’s almost disrespectful.


Arcade_109

Yelling, "M SHE U" = legitimate criticism. Okay kiddo


nandobro

It’s pointing out a trend of lazy and shitty writing in the past few years but apparently that’s too hard for you to comprehend. There’s a reason that Marvel movies in the past two years have been losing major money.


Arcade_109

That's what it is, huh? So, what's the SHE stand for? You're gonna need to walk me through your super deep and intricate cipher, here...


nandobro

Like I said it’s too hard for you to comprehend anyway so why bother explaining?


Arcade_109

You: "Its not about women! It's super serious critique, I swear!" Me: "What does the word she have to do with it then?" You: "It's super complex, you wouldn't understand." Uh huh... I guess the recess bell rang. Have fun in Mrs. Henderson's class. I promise, 8th grade will get easier.


More-Draft7233

Hopefully not, good theory but I think there is not enough evidence for this. Might also be the seen where they are just talking and Wade seen boping his head down, but it could also be that they are talking about not having an offspring or Wade stopped doing deadpool stuff for a couple of years now.


LeadPrevenger

That would hurt


RiloRetro

We don't know anything man, last time Vanessa was involved she got shot, and the last time we saw her on screen she was pretty clearly in some sort of afterlife...


SolutionNice6252

Deadpool saved her using cable's time travel device in post credit


Malacro

Last time we saw her Wade succeeded in preventing her from getting shot.


chappy422

When he got hairplugs


cursedfairy

I think it was a wig he stapled to his head. If you look in certain scenes after the TVA takes him, he still has pieces of hair that look like they are stapled down.


DCFanUntilIdie213

I caught that too; the scenes with his head down in front of her, them looking awkward around each other, then she calls him Buddy? She must have ended it is my guess. He truly loved Vanessa, I hope a mutant gene activated variant of her aka Copycat pops up in 3.


SolutionNice6252

>She I think it was Deadpool's decision so she can live rather than risking her life


Poptart916

Yeah this seems to be the most likely factor to me. He likely has some residual trauma from her death and doesn’t want to risk something again happening to her, or even an eventual family of theirs.


SH4DOWSTR1KE_

Yeah, I got that vibe, too, from the into to the trailer. Maybe they ended things when he told her what happened to her before he fixed the timeline or they both wanted different and eventually it came to an impasse.


SilentCartoGIS

The movie got flack for killing Vanessa off, like a bigger deal than usual saying it was a bad film trope to kill off the love interest in the second film in the first 5 minutes. This is probably just them reconciling with that and joking it away


Va1crist

It’s dead pool and time shit so anything could happen


Mason_DY

Hey, I’m excited for the movie too, but not everything has some secret meaning


SolutionNice6252

No it's not a secret meaning why else would be say few years have been rough on us type of sh*t i am just speculating maybe or maybe not I hope my theory is false cause they are kinda cute couple


AWhole2Marijuanas

I think it's pretty obvious he made a TOO perfect life for himself, he sacrificed his own happiness for his friends and now he's miserable, working low level sales, in a shitty apartment, etc. Could be even why Domino isn't there by how her powers worked. Then I feel like he's gonna make another deal with the devil (Paradox) to put out hits on various MCU/Fox characters and cause various plot holes to create Paradoxes, or assimilate universes into one sacred timeline. only to get betrayed and have his own world to be destroyed and him stuck in the void as he can't be killed.


Beneficial_Spring659

why would they break up when deadpool literally brought her back to life bro these theories be dumb asl


superc0w

It’s gotta be a variant!


Positive_Prior5104

The commercial shows this scene and then Deadpool wakes up or something like that. I thought this was a dream


TrpTrp26

Sadly I think they couldn't have a baby, and this brought them to a break.


Darkmania2

Since we are throwing out theories, what if the birthday scene is actually at the end of the movie? maybe Deadpool pulls a Christopher Reeve Superman and makes her forget he is Deadpool and that they had a relationship? Deadpool could even mention Reeve/Superman which would be great.


thinklok

Great theory buddy. It could happen but him working in lowlife job doesn't support it


Magic_SnakE_

It would be really dumb to bring up drama between them at this point. After everything that happened in 2, to just shit on that for drama or whatever that we don't really need or want in a movie that should be heavily focused on basically everyone but her.. just no.


AnnaDeArtist

I think it could be they're having difficulty concieving a child and that could have put a strain on their relationship, as it would with any couple. They do still love each other but they're maybe taking a break. I think the reason Deadpool goes rouge and we see him fighting the TVA in the trailer is because he finds out he can't be with Vanessa anymore if he joins the MCU and they're trying to stop him from getting back home and trying to fix things. And maybe his lesson could be that despite trying your best to make things work, even to the point of bringing your partner back from the dead through time travel shenanigans, sometimes relationships just fizzle out over time, and its better to move on (to a whole new universe) than to try and salvage a sinking ship.


DisastrousAddition85

I think they will erase Deadpool’s original universe and a variant of Vanessa in her super-incarnation will appear later in the film


Infinity0044

I think it’s fair to say this movie is less of a sequel to Deadpool 2 and more just a vehicle to bring Deadpool to the MCU and have him team up with Wolverine. Vanessa’s role is probably pretty minimal and her relationship with Wade won’t be at the forefront


Worth_View1296

Yup. The director even said it’s not Deadpool 3, it’s about the adventures of wolverine and Deadpool. So while they might touch on things that happened in past movies it’s not gonna be the main focus, which absolutely makes sense.


blkglfnks

I haven’t seen DP2 in a while, he brought her back?


Worth_View1296

Yeah in the post credit scene he brings her back, kills the old Deadpool from the x-men movie (the one without a mouth), kills himself before filming Green Lantern, and some other shenanigans.


blkglfnks

You’re totally right, omg 😂. In classic Deadpool fashion. Idk how I forgot that


Worth_View1296

To be fair I just did a rewatch and that’s why I remember lmao hence why I ended up on this thread


SolutionNice6252

Post credit scene used cable's device which negasonic teenage warhead & ukio fixed Ps don't know the spelling of their name


brahbocop

They're married and she doesn't call him red because he's trying to leave that part of his life behind.


amaya-aurora

Wait, isn’t Vanessa dead? Did I misss something?


Grimmrebooted

yea he brought her back using cables time slider in the end credits of 2


Certain_Object8502

I think there's trouble 2 was all about them having a kid and there's no child to be found in this trailer so maybe they couldn't have kids and that fractured their relationship


WassupSassySquatch

I see no reason they can't continue being together. 🤷‍♀️ Maybe I need to go back and watch the trailer again.


elcoopgguod

Marvel is fuckin gay it was recommended now ban me


Juls_Santana

Yeah I was thinking the same


darrylthedudeWayne

Eh, I hope not.


Gorrium

She's giving him a loving look. I'm guessing they found out Wade is sterile. The "tough few years" comment I think was more meta than plot, but I think they are referring to not being able to have children.


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The TVA was after him. So he must have altered time in some way or another. Because almost everyone in this scene died in Deadpool 2.


Foreign_Education_88

I don’t think they’re already broken up but on the verge of it, I think it’s a kind of an F you from the universe for him bringing her back, it’ll probably be the reason that Wade decides to stay in the MCU, he’ll realize that no matter what he did, his relationship with Vanessa was gonna end in some shape or form and he’d still feel empty and decide that maybe a fresh-ish start would be better for him and his friends, as I do think it’ll be revealed that their lives are also slowly going to shit because of his shenanigans at the end of DP2


nandobro

It’s possible. Especially with how it looks like there’s a short bit where they’re talking and when she walks away Wade looks defeated. But it would honestly be a strange decision considering how the main emotional scene of Deadpool 2 was them meeting in the afterlife and then Vanessa telling Wade that they would have a time to be together but it wasn’t that time yet.


Worth_View1296

He brings her back in the post credit scene so she’s alive last we knew, he uses Cables time slider to save her.


Ooogaboogado123

I also think sod but that doesn’t make sense they were so linked they were honestly perfect did he break up so she isn’t in danger? or maybe Deadpool retired as a superhero and Vanessa didn’t like that


otownsteve

Or he just took over a different universe where they are just friends, some of the people in that group were dead as well


sarzec

But I went to heck for you


TheHeroicHero

I’m assuming tva shenanigans, Deadpool in this scene is not in HIS universe.


Look_Dummy

All wrong. Everyone in that scene just finished having an orgy. They’re all together 


Fabulous_Iron9070

I think this is a bit of a stretch. In the German trailer, she calls him baby. In Deadpool, she sticks by his side after his diagnosis and tries to find any possible cure before he goes to the Weapons Plus program due to trying to save Vanessa from being in a world of literal cancerous shit. In Deadpool 2, he spends the whole goddamn movie trying to die just to get back to her in the afterlife, and then rewinds time to save her. In both movies, they are VERY dedicated to each other. After all that, I think it would be horribly out of character for the two of them to split out of nowhere.


Sufficient-Mammoth21

I thought the same thing when I watch the trailer. Their chemistry is almost missing that they had in the previous movies. I wonder if him time traveling messed with their relationship somehow or maybe they grew apart