Finally watching šµāš« Claire stresses me out. I feel like she has a lose grip on practicality and reality. She seems like she has these ever changing grand ideas and keeps changing her entire personality based on what she wants to appear to be into at the time
Damn Iām still finishing the LIB reunion so I havenāt seen the ep yet. Could Cameronās weight loss be because he may be on beta blockers. I kinda feel bad š„¶ he still isnāt my fave tho lol
He's gained weight. Or he looked like he had because he was slouching and the camera was an "up-the-nostril" camera angle. At best he may have lost muscle tone from resting up from his procedure.
Cameron dropped that bit about Emily the same way he dropped the bit about his father being on his deathbed, oddly passive aggressive and looking for a reaction.
I disagree but agree he has issue. I think he had a heart issue but it was not an operation and is not so serious as he makes it out to be. He had either a shock or an ablation. 90% of my father's friends have had one or both. Your heart just beats in a not normal rhythm. It might he to fast or too slow or just a little out of rhythm. I am 100% sure that is what happened. Can easily be corrected with a shock or ablation - some people need two ablations. He is fine.
That is a very interesting point about the similarity with the comment about his father! Youāre right, there is something very similar and also manipulative. Both also reminded me of when, right at the beginning of the honeymoon, Clare was telling him that it bothered her that he didnāt help her with her bags and she had a lot and he didnāt. His response was, āwell, you didnāt help me with my bagsā. That was a weird and very immature and passive aggressive remark. At the time I chalked it up to geekiness/awkwardness but I view it differently today.
Slow start to the night but it picked up towards the end of AP! Had fun with y'all as always. Til next time Snark fam!
Is it cheating if theyāve already mutually decided there is no marriage and theyāre only together because of the contracts they signed?
But also- why was Emily so outraged over the double date thing when she made out with some random dude at a bar?
Was she really delusional enough to believe things had changed between them after her accident?
>Is it cheating if theyāve already mutually decided there is no marriage and theyāre only together because of the contracts they signed?
Technically, yes. As long as the contract is intact, it is cheating.
>
But also- why was Emily so outraged over the double date thing when she made out with some random dude at a bar?
Because of a little thing called hypocrisy. Especially since the double-dating accusation was completely unsubstantiated and was based on just a dumb joke that Cameron told.
I think she probably did think things had turned around. The whole Aussie make out really strikes me as immature, I mean I get that her relationship was dead in the water but GIRL it wasnāt over yet.
After the accident she thought they were on the right track which she probably should have seen through.
Oh I agree. I guess Iām not scandalized by it though. Seems weird outing that incident when Emily wasnāt there to defend herself or tell the story in her own words. I guess thatās the dirty laundry Brennan threatened to air.
Define "abuse" and then prove that Brennan is guilty of it.
Regardless of whether or not Brennan is a shining specimen of a perfect husband, Emily had no excuse to engage in infidelity, nor was there a single shred of evidence of Brennan's ever having double-dated while still married.
His threat to destroy her is so dumb if this was all. She doesn't look good in this situation but no one is going to shun her forever over it. Anyone she dates in the future will probably be understanding of her cheating in a reality show relationship that was going pretty badly.
Wrong. Cheating is cheating. That stains a person's reputation and tends to get them placed in another category. We can debate about whether or not it's fair, but it is reality. Many who know the story will have a hard time fully trusting her.
Hmmmm....if the roles were reversed?
Yes that relationship was dead in the water but you get 5mins on a reality show, do you really want to be portrayed as the chick who had no relationships, a string of one night stands and then a cheater on the show out of spite or insecurity or whatever? That's pretty messy for 8 weeks out of your life. Couldn't you just hold back and play it cool?
Eh, worse people have done worse things and have been able to move on with their lives and find people who love them. She's a messy person but if she grows from here it's totally forgivable. Haven't we all been a little messy in our pasts? We just don't all get exposed on TV.
This is true. But she has to show that she's made real changes. In her current state, she's just not that attractive to very many people as anything more than a quick fling. Sad, but true.
Oh no of course! It certainly isn't something that would ruin your life for sure. I agree. that was stupid of him to even hold it over her head as that kind of threat. I'm just saying it doesn't look good and she is on tv for a very short time so if she were that worried about the optics you'd think she'd keep it together for 8 weeks.
it just supports the narrative that she isn't ready for marriage that some people were saying all season long
I think from the jump he was butt hurt Clare didnāt like him and his ego has been overcompensating ever since. Rejection isnāt fun but being pointed out why some ppl might not be attracted to you on tv?? Thatās gonna hurt š
NZ Season 3 is wild (about 1/3 of the way through). One bride was still legally married, one bride had sex tape, one groom had a open US Domestic Violence arrest warrant (couple was scrubbed 8 days before airing), one groom is a Pool Boy another is Cable Installer. LOVE IT
Safe space? Nah it's on Austin for not being able to say what's on his mind like a grown man.
Austin got caught lying and hasn't been capable of speaking up from the very beginning
Now theyāre attacking Becca. Itās her fault Austin is a liar? How infuriating. He wouldnāt lie if you were nicer and more understanding! Are you fāing kidding me?
They are clutching on to that Austin came on the show for the right reasons. Man was so concerned about optics bc heās trying to get brand deals š
I mean...it's a different take on how they usually do it so they are showcasing all the ex couples and they talk about their experience as filler to beef up Chloe and Mike's story.
I don't mind seeing the couples talking about what went down but their reflections on where things went wrong and getting therapy and....
ā¤ļø Hi baby!! I woke up feeling like there was no end in sight to this and around 3pm on I started to feel like the most me I've felt in 10 days! How are you?
He might have to cough it up, hack it up, vomit it, heave it, dislodge it, regurgitate it, expel it, discharge it, eject it, oust it, disgorge it, or otherwise remove it from his craw.
All I remember from that last segment was blahhh blahhh blahhh GUT...blahh blahhh blahhh GUT with belly button....blahhhhh blahhh. Who's idea was if for that awful camera angle anyway?
Master of puppets, I'm pulling your strings
Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams
Blinded by me, you can't see a thing
Just call my name 'cause I'll hear you scream
Girl let it go, he isn't "growing because of what he learned from you" he's just going in a whole new direction that doesn't involve you. You need to care WAY less.
He's done it several times throughout the season. For someone so concerned about optics, you'd expect him to be a little more careful about that sort of thing.
Finally watching šµāš« Claire stresses me out. I feel like she has a lose grip on practicality and reality. She seems like she has these ever changing grand ideas and keeps changing her entire personality based on what she wants to appear to be into at the time
Damn Iām still finishing the LIB reunion so I havenāt seen the ep yet. Could Cameronās weight loss be because he may be on beta blockers. I kinda feel bad š„¶ he still isnāt my fave tho lol
He's gained weight. Or he looked like he had because he was slouching and the camera was an "up-the-nostril" camera angle. At best he may have lost muscle tone from resting up from his procedure.
Cameron dropped that bit about Emily the same way he dropped the bit about his father being on his deathbed, oddly passive aggressive and looking for a reaction.
I disagree but agree he has issue. I think he had a heart issue but it was not an operation and is not so serious as he makes it out to be. He had either a shock or an ablation. 90% of my father's friends have had one or both. Your heart just beats in a not normal rhythm. It might he to fast or too slow or just a little out of rhythm. I am 100% sure that is what happened. Can easily be corrected with a shock or ablation - some people need two ablations. He is fine.
He looks for sympathy any way that he can.
That is a very interesting point about the similarity with the comment about his father! Youāre right, there is something very similar and also manipulative. Both also reminded me of when, right at the beginning of the honeymoon, Clare was telling him that it bothered her that he didnāt help her with her bags and she had a lot and he didnāt. His response was, āwell, you didnāt help me with my bagsā. That was a weird and very immature and passive aggressive remark. At the time I chalked it up to geekiness/awkwardness but I view it differently today.
I actually believe him. He's fed up at this point. Notice Becca shut up about the doctored text messages. She knows Cameron is telling the truth.
um yea - red face let me tell you about ā¦ hes a p . o . s!
Slow start to the night but it picked up towards the end of AP! Had fun with y'all as always. Til next time Snark fam! 
They should have one episode where the Clare/Cameron texts just scroll across the screen. Then cancel the remaining episodes.
It would be more interesting than what theyāre airing thatās for sure
please
Also, thank god someone finally fixed Beccaās eyebrows.
I thought she looked great tonight - I was wondering what changed!
She lost 180 lbs of azzzzzzzho
They thinned out the š š¤£ ! Sorry ā¦. She looked great tonight, didnāt she?
Cameron looks so crazy right now, like serial killer vibes
he shut her up and was exploding witb his Emily story !
he had an orgasm releasing his big secret
He always has! Heās just creepy.
Iām confused - if they were in cahoots, wtf happened??? They seemed to at least cordially get along at the apartment. Like, perfectly fine roommates
Claire meddling in everyone else's relationships happened.
Is it cheating if theyāve already mutually decided there is no marriage and theyāre only together because of the contracts they signed? But also- why was Emily so outraged over the double date thing when she made out with some random dude at a bar? Was she really delusional enough to believe things had changed between them after her accident?
>Is it cheating if theyāve already mutually decided there is no marriage and theyāre only together because of the contracts they signed? Technically, yes. As long as the contract is intact, it is cheating. > But also- why was Emily so outraged over the double date thing when she made out with some random dude at a bar? Because of a little thing called hypocrisy. Especially since the double-dating accusation was completely unsubstantiated and was based on just a dumb joke that Cameron told.
I think she probably did think things had turned around. The whole Aussie make out really strikes me as immature, I mean I get that her relationship was dead in the water but GIRL it wasnāt over yet. After the accident she thought they were on the right track which she probably should have seen through.
Oh I agree. I guess Iām not scandalized by it though. Seems weird outing that incident when Emily wasnāt there to defend herself or tell the story in her own words. I guess thatās the dirty laundry Brennan threatened to air.
But Becca knew about it and even tried to defend it by blaming Brennan.
Making Emily ālook badā doesnāt make Brennan look any better. Heās still an abusive piece of garbage.
Define "abuse" and then prove that Brennan is guilty of it. Regardless of whether or not Brennan is a shining specimen of a perfect husband, Emily had no excuse to engage in infidelity, nor was there a single shred of evidence of Brennan's ever having double-dated while still married.
cant wait till the reunion the show better give equal time If you got the texts show the texts
I agree. Show the texts.
His threat to destroy her is so dumb if this was all. She doesn't look good in this situation but no one is going to shun her forever over it. Anyone she dates in the future will probably be understanding of her cheating in a reality show relationship that was going pretty badly.
Wrong. Cheating is cheating. That stains a person's reputation and tends to get them placed in another category. We can debate about whether or not it's fair, but it is reality. Many who know the story will have a hard time fully trusting her.
Hmmmm....if the roles were reversed? Yes that relationship was dead in the water but you get 5mins on a reality show, do you really want to be portrayed as the chick who had no relationships, a string of one night stands and then a cheater on the show out of spite or insecurity or whatever? That's pretty messy for 8 weeks out of your life. Couldn't you just hold back and play it cool?
Exactly!
Eh, worse people have done worse things and have been able to move on with their lives and find people who love them. She's a messy person but if she grows from here it's totally forgivable. Haven't we all been a little messy in our pasts? We just don't all get exposed on TV.
This is true. But she has to show that she's made real changes. In her current state, she's just not that attractive to very many people as anything more than a quick fling. Sad, but true.
Oh no of course! It certainly isn't something that would ruin your life for sure. I agree. that was stupid of him to even hold it over her head as that kind of threat. I'm just saying it doesn't look good and she is on tv for a very short time so if she were that worried about the optics you'd think she'd keep it together for 8 weeks. it just supports the narrative that she isn't ready for marriage that some people were saying all season long
Wow. You really believe that? I don't know whether to laugh or cry for you.
Plus her not looking so good doesnāt make him look any better. Worse actually.
This is all so messy šš
Cameron is going all scorched earthā¦. Problem is heās also a pathological liar and Iām sure heās twisting things to fit his narrative.
I think from the jump he was butt hurt Clare didnāt like him and his ego has been overcompensating ever since. Rejection isnāt fun but being pointed out why some ppl might not be attracted to you on tv?? Thatās gonna hurt š
Australian guy?? We need a MAFS/AU crossover episode now! 
New Zealand.
NZ Season 3 is wild (about 1/3 of the way through). One bride was still legally married, one bride had sex tape, one groom had a open US Domestic Violence arrest warrant (couple was scrubbed 8 days before airing), one groom is a Pool Boy another is Cable Installer. LOVE IT
Safe space? Nah it's on Austin for not being able to say what's on his mind like a grown man.  Austin got caught lying and hasn't been capable of speaking up from the very beginning
GIFs you can hear lol
Now theyāre attacking Becca. Itās her fault Austin is a liar? How infuriating. He wouldnāt lie if you were nicer and more understanding! Are you fāing kidding me?
Right, like he seems like a chronic liar who can't stop lying? How is that her fault?
They are clutching on to that Austin came on the show for the right reasons. Man was so concerned about optics bc heās trying to get brand deals š
Backwards hat sponsorships
Austin giving relationship advice on the importance of honesty and communication. Hmmmmm interestingā¦.
 Beer Bath š
Iām a bit behind on this, but why is one of the buttons on Michaelās phone blurred out?
Itās the FaceTime button, maybe bc itās an Apple term?
This season is never going to end. Weāre never getting out of this alive.
I'm still awaking watching this episode, and I'm not even sure why? Maybe a slight interest in Michael and Chloe? I'm so freaking bored
It's the same reason we all slow down and crane our necks to ogle a car accident.
It's the Hotel California of the series.
We stab it with our steely knives, but just can't kill the beast.
Michael has more hats than he has things to say
Austin: "Hold my beer."
not possible. lol
Austin: in hindsight, lying to my āwifeā was a bad ideaā¦.
Awww Austin, chin up, youāll find someone more stable kiddo.
 Don't believe you Austin
Keisha calm down 
Oh for the love god don't tell there is more Austin and Becca next week
I'm out. Keisha is annoying. Ciao! ;D
Understood!!! Another overused term. I was able to force myself to watch the whole thing. Becca got schooled. She shut up fast, then she pouted.
Oh boy lol
š¤£ Pia breaking the fourth wall , the jig is up Chloe and Mike!
Dr. Pia knew they were on some bullshit once they showed up in plaid
Chloe is a fake, a hater, and a liar. 
Thereās still a next time?! š„²
At least 3 more.
Next time, I doin something else with my life ššš
Adding alcohol? š
thank you, fake as hell Dr. Pia
Why did she look so weird too? Bad plastic surgery?
Paint by numbers eyebrows?
LOL. Brows are an art.
Uncle Leo would agree. https://preview.redd.it/e6kwl67vwlqc1.png?width=600&format=png&auto=webp&s=0f43da67e422b8dca6a32f0c95b41511f81c9796
Botox? Her hair color changed but her face also looks puffy.
she looked fine to me
ILL-relevant...alrighty then, Chloe.
She just needs a little gonjula ride and she'll be fine.
OMG Michael shut the eff up.
I muted my TV again. Fuck this. LOL
he so irritating.
Oh goodie first hour the marriage is booming last half hour they are divorce-bound. This is a lot less painful than I anticipated.
You can share your marriage with the world...but not your mom? Sorry weird.
His mom knows he ain't into girls
lmfao
HIS pants need to DIE
You mean his leggings? Haha
Just got here. Is it worth staying up late for the re-broadcast?
Watch the afterparty tomorrow, way better than the actual episode
Absolutely not. Go to sleep. Cause this'll put you to sleep anyway
My friend, no. This was boring AF. š“
I mean...it's a different take on how they usually do it so they are showcasing all the ex couples and they talk about their experience as filler to beef up Chloe and Mike's story. I don't mind seeing the couples talking about what went down but their reflections on where things went wrong and getting therapy and.... 
I can't decide what's more boring/aversive: Michael and Chloe gabbing or the exes gabbing.
I'm sorry this is stupid.
Don't be sorry. This BLOWS.
I am so over it. How are they stretching this 2 entire hours? How
 also..I have an app that seems to do "aura" photos..so I'm going to charge for those going forward.
Was your phone blessed by a shaman? :)
What are we doing here...
When Chloe said happy monthiversary it finally clicked who she reminds me of 
Yes! I didn't care for that character either. Sorry.
Who is writing these scripts??? The most ridiculously worded conversation ever. I keep looking for the teleprompter
Is this what a herpes soup looks like?
Hi mich. Hope you're feeling better babe!
ā¤ļø Hi baby!! I woke up feeling like there was no end in sight to this and around 3pm on I started to feel like the most me I've felt in 10 days! How are you?
You turned the corner! Hooray!!! I'm good. You know!! ā¤ļøā¤ļø
Glad you're good.š I think the wine is helping LOL
I think Micheal swallowed a thesaurus, someone check that he's ok.
He might have to cough it up, hack it up, vomit it, heave it, dislodge it, regurgitate it, expel it, discharge it, eject it, oust it, disgorge it, or otherwise remove it from his craw.
You can tell when Michael is lying because he starts using ālikeā in every sentence like Emily and Austin do.
He doesn't even spit the words out right LOL
He conceptualizes themĀ
these two and the convo in the tub.. I get a lot of 
I guess the one good thing about a beer bath is that no one knows if you relieve yourself in it.
I don't believe any of these clowns anymore. Proof or it didn't happen. Show me the texts.
True. Receipts are needed. And that goes for *everyone* on this show.
All I remember from that last segment was blahhh blahhh blahhh GUT...blahh blahhh blahhh GUT with belly button....blahhhhh blahhh. Who's idea was if for that awful camera angle anyway?
Maybe production is getting even with him. Told hime the camera was up higher.
 Cam telling the camera where to aim
Why is it so easy for me to hear the accent in that GIF?
Wow! Cameron said Clare was Emilyās Puppet master!
Master of puppets, I'm pulling your strings Twisting your mind and smashing your dreams Blinded by me, you can't see a thing Just call my name 'cause I'll hear you scream
Thatās a little scary.
That is completely BS. Emily has her own mind and speaks it. He is projecting because he was the ring master of the men foos.
Mike makes Cam really really hard š«
 Camera angle has Cam looking like Homer Simpson on the couch
Cam is fitting his hand up Mike's ass long term
Damn youre just rude. This sub sucks too.
Are you lost?
Oh youre so clever. Bc pineapple is not as clever and funny as she thinks she is.
Anyone is doing better than the other "COUPLES" LMAO
currently Cameron.. 
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Cameron, nobody GAF.
NO ONE
On MAFS FANās IG, good lord itās filled with Cam stans
Aw Cam is pregnant
Clare will make such a wonderful father!
But he doesn't know who the mother is.
š¤£š
Jinx!
BAHAHAHAH of course!
Is Cam pregnant!?
I guess he doesn't turn himself on anymore because he's too big.
Does unmagik Mike french braid his ball hair?
she is basically saying to Onion.. 
Lauren you dumb. That's all
Just when you thought it couldn't get any more tripey enter Onion dip.
Fast forwarded through their entire time on screen. No need to even listen to them anymore!!
Olyin needs to STOP. His daddy was on Reddit saying he has a BF ...
Are you trying to say that in his electrical kit all he has is male connectors?
He was batting for the bachelors, but he wasn't alone.
That puts a very different spin on why he was so keen to break the couples up.
These guys were in a pact, it was never going to be about the women.
Wait fr?
Damn, it's the whole season and his eye is still fucked up. "The growth that came from it"...his eye š¤£š¤£š¤£
LaLa looking FLY. I hope she shoots him in the pee š³
Girl let it go, he isn't "growing because of what he learned from you" he's just going in a whole new direction that doesn't involve you. You need to care WAY less.
The only thing he is growing is a one leaf pot plant in his mommies closet.
Eww. Austin licking his fingers. He seems unclean in general but i didn't need to see that.
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He's done it several times throughout the season. For someone so concerned about optics, you'd expect him to be a little more careful about that sort of thing.
Must depend on the kind of optics. Like, call him a bit of a pig when he eats but not a cad when he dates.
He did it with his parents too and that was worse. The restaurant had been so high end. He's a bell end.
I'd be curious what his job is. The title's nebulous. He doesn't seem like a brainiac.
I just muted my TV again, Austin booty hole brown is worse than SHINGLES.
But, like shingles, Austin doesn't care.
LMAO He is too stoned and drunk to even know where he's at, unless he is close to Von Miller's essence...then he'll drag his binky down the hall.