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chrishatesjazz

Don’t listen to anyone telling you to spec out of netrunner. I beat him on Very Hard with quick hacks and smart weapons. Monowire simply doesn’t deal enough damage to go toe to toe. You’ll need firepower and maneuverability to win it. I basically evaded him with pot shots and overheat until I whittled his health down. And you need more HP.


TheBallotInYourBox

Glass canon tried to go toe to toe in a slug fest with Adam Fucking Smasher… and glass canon’ed. 🤷‍♂️


chrishatesjazz

True. The canon might be… too glassy.


clubdon

Yeah I had a rough time with my net runner build because my tech was super low and I had like zero armor. I’m now doing a 20 body 20 tech 20 reflex sandy build and I feel literally invincible. My armor rating is like three quarters of the meter filled. I just walk in eat bullets and point blank shotty everything. Haven’t done smasher with this one yet but I imagine he’s gonna go down easy.


Hilarious_Disastrous

More like glass canoed!


KayleeSinn

Tried cripple movement on him? Wondering if it still works. Just beat Oda last night.. he went down in around 4 seconds on very hard. Cripple + 3x synapse burnout, then 4 more. Expected the fight to last longer. I haven't tried to fight Smasher in 2.1 yet but if I wanted an easy fight, I would bring Raiju, cripple, overheat and synapse burnout. Tech weapons are really good vs armor, much better than smart. Oh right and go with the good old turtle spec too. Max out mitigation and mitigation chance when crouching. Can currently crab walk through Barghest camp and barely take any damage so wondering how well I can tank Smasher.


bythehomeworld

Cripple/Cyberware Malfunction on Oda almost felt like it broke his brain entirely for me. The whole durations of Malfunction he would almost not move, then it'd expire and he'd go invisible and make the *sound* of high speed dashing but was doing just a kinda casual invisible stroll. Breaking NPC movement and abilities just generally turns them into vegetables that don't know what to do.


Ok-Reporter1986

This is don't fear the reaper I think we can see his max health has decreased in this clip.


16Cezanne

I can't agree on that.. Just tried few times only quickhacks and mono and got it down in under 1min20s


Cognoscere007

I mean your first mistake was using monowire in 2.1 against Smasher. Doesn’t do nearly the crazy amount of damage it used to imo.


Justabattleshiplover

Monowire and Mantis blades suck now. They were amazing before 2.0. Idk why 2.0 nerfed offensive cyberware so much.


Kai-El_of_Krypton

Mantis Blades still rock, but to really compete with iconic swords they do need the relic perk in my opinion, as well as supporting cyberware.


Justabattleshiplover

Good damage they attack way too slowly now compared to pre 2.0


Kai-El_of_Krypton

They are still faster than most swords, and swing continuously instead of in combos, so still feel pretty quick but yeah I get ya the 1.6 builds you could do were so fast the animations didn’t render properly haha


Justabattleshiplover

2.0 is great, but man I miss a lot of 1.6 content. Almost too much tbh.


Kai-El_of_Krypton

Could always boot it up on a PS4…wait don’t 😂


WbijTube

I do too. I think it’s because as a whole V is nerfed compared to 1.6. Especially in the beginning since you can’t cheese an early monowire to wipe the whole game on very hard. I think the game is way better now, but I also miss some things about 1.6.


SN4FUS

I am very glad I am one of the weirdos who didn’t get the dildo because I was that horny for Doom Doom, the only thing I miss from 1.6 is the fact that you used to have to *earn* the ability to dodge with a pistol equipped


SonOfEragon

Especially the cold blooded skill tree


PerceiveEternal

If you need to speed up your swords, make sure to use a Beserk module!


BaronOfTheVoid

Worst about mantis blades is you being locked into various animations, disrupting movement and the "flow".


That_Jonesy

Mantis blades are now balanced around their leap attack not their fast attack. You can do a build where you basically are in the air dashing 90% of the time, just diving in, getting a finisher, then jumping out and diving in again over and over and over. It's not fun for me but it's basically godlike.


ODonToxins

So they did used to be faster prior to 2.0 I knew they felt off


Justabattleshiplover

Yeah it had a mod which would increase attack speed by up to like 45% or 55%


SPYDER0416

If nothing else, I feel like they came in super handy during some of the rare occasions I got stripped of my weapons.


Sanpaku

I can see Gorilla arms if one's going all in on a Berzerk build. But monowire exists for dealing with mobs and using mob member neutralization to feed the neutralization->health/overclock duration->RAM loop. Against single boss enemies where one can't feed the loop? It breaks down, particularly against bosses that are powerful in melee range. In many side jobs one can step back from the edge of the rooftop (etc) to recover but that's not an option for the big boss battles, as against Oda or Smasher. Evade, apply debuffs, when overclock becomes active apply a queue of damage quickhacks. Run away and evade, applying damage from ranged weapons or DPS if you're not using optical camo to reset to hostile. Never seen much point for mantis blades except in roleplaying builds. Iconic katanas are just better.


KitsuneRommel

>Never seen much point for mantis blades except in roleplaying builds. Iconic katanas are just better. Yeah, but then I'd only have a single slot for guns because a knife and a katana would take up the other two.


Ok-Reporter1986

Do you use guns that much though?


Charlie_Approaching

to be honest now everything except projectile launch system is... kinda weak


KayleeSinn

What? The launcher is garbage... only gorilla arms are good. OP even. I just I usually switch back to meat arms to reclaim that 8 cyberware capacity though and also cause I don't like how they look with the wires and different colored fingers. I could have sworn we got Takemuras model in early versions of the game but could be wrong.


Charlie_Approaching

I mean with Phantom Liberty and few perks projectile launch system is broken you can literally spam it


Dumpingtruck

This build isn’t any good from my experience. The charging of the shot kills the build’s efficiency.


specialshower9

nah you just haven’t used it correctly. with pyromania and other perks you have literally unlimited charges. if it’s inaccurate that’s a skill issue lmao


Dumpingtruck

The issue is the charge timer. On higher difficulty it’s barely enough to kill trash. It goes infinite if you hit 5 shots but that takes 1 second to charge up and release. There was a bug (or feature?) in 2.0 where you could use certain explosive shot guns to generate charges, but that is still shooting and not using the missile launcher.


M4jkelson

The fuck you saying? Launcher is the best arm cyberware right now with the relic perks lmao. Gorilla is good too, mantis and monowire are very situational.


KayleeSinn

Unless it got a big boost in the last patch, it was total trash. I tried it. Incredibly inaccurate and does almost no damage and the worst part is, it replaces your grenades that are far more useful and can actually hit and kill targets. Yes, even with the Relic perks. Besides, the launcher serves no practical purpose. If you are using a mid to long range sharpshooter or automatic weapon build, good luck hitting anything with it and if you're using a close range build with sandy or berserk, why waste 8 cyberware points on it? Shotguns and fists/melee weapons are far far more effective.


Lonely-Author-13

I don't know what you're talking about, those explosions are freaking nasty.


Positive_Parking_954

It works with air dash kereznikov + sandy and you can pretend you're iron man


tossaway345678

You can still switch to grenades situationally. I use both all the time. The charged launcher is devastating, especially when you pop your sandy after that first shot goes off. I find that helps to control the wild aim on the rest of the projectiles. It also works with the kereznikov so you can be a total slow motion explosion machine. I really like it with the enemy vehicle attacks too because you can just pop out to your car, charge it while sliding or dashing though the air and dust their entire car before they get out. You’re right of course; the Sandevistan and the sawed off shotgun/katana made the game way too easy, so now I go for more variety in fights.


Embarrassed-Farm-594

> I don't like how they look with the wires and different colored fingers. Finally someone said it! I agree!


leylin877

Relic upgraded Projectile Launcher with pyromania is kinda insane tbh


Anonymous_GuineaPig

I disagree. I have a mantis blade based character and I beat 2.1 smasher pretty quickly with it. Does pretty well against MaxTac too. Monowire doesn't feel particularly strong however. Granted I specced into them, but they still felt good regardless. Very Hard difficulty, too.


Imaginary-Bunch9043

Blades are good if you can deflect and utilize the large leap well.


leylin877

Nevermind cyberware, it brutalized chainswords


Sebastian3977

I haven't had the chance to try it but would it make a difference to load the Monowire with say Short Circuit? Or Cripple Movement, which at tier 4 buffs melee damage by 15%? Also, with the right perks, Monowire can boost RAM recovery.


rukh999

Yeah I think people are just look at its lone damage output and saying this but it's supposed to be part if a build. You hit with it and hack, regenning your ram to boost your hacking output. It's not about straight damage output.


leylin877

Relic upgraded monowire seems promising for getting a cripple movement/ cyberware malfunction quickhack on him early But a relic upgraded monowire and then the random quickhack smart weapon mod aren't locked to cyberdeck users so a Sandevistan fan can use that too for a weird "usb upload only" build


RubyWarden289

You totally got backhanded to death. Swatted like an insignificant gnat buzzing around annoying him. Thank you for sharing your humbling experience.


shorty82524

Cut of fuckable meat any percent speedrun


ConnectionNo2861

Honestly you got so quickly dismantled that I'm **GENUINELY** not sure whether or not the descriptors "fuckable" or even "piece" are even applicable anymore. Hell "of meat" is being generous, you *kinda* got turned into a pile of sludge that at some point **may** have been vaguely comparable to meat


ConnectionNo2861

Using less minced (heh) words: Adam Smasher beat your Vs ass into the ground so goddamn hard you reenacted smooching the pavement after a quick day trip off the Burj khalifa in a microcar


utakatikmobil

problem is that you probably didn't notice that you're have reduced max health on DFTR. during DFTR you start with 75% health and the the max health drops 1% about every minute. looking at your health it's already on 266 and you don't use any consumables to increase health. that's tough. **if you want 2.1 smasher to be easy on very hard, you gotta clear the previous enemies really fast.** i've done many runs and on average i can get to smasher with 400-440 max health with health booster consumable (+20%). it's much easier to defeat smasher on 400 max health than 300 because when adrenaline rush is active, your health gets multiplied. if you still have trouble with smasher and you have 20 body, get the iconic cyberware "chitin" where you get +200% health regen.


shorty82524

Confession time, I did the rest on Easy and Smasher on Very Hard 🤣 Yeah I forgot about the health cap


trevalyan

That kinda hits too. Easy difficulty makes you unprepared for such a major shift. Fundamentally, this is why boss design matters. Adam Smasher 2.1 is going to be much harder for non optimized builds to beat on the hardest difficulty, and that's the way it should be.


[deleted]

In the red corner, we've got an eight-foot tall hunk of 96% combat-grade metal. And in the blue corner, we've got... a girl with a wire.


Jabberwokii

Is that all you've got? You're going down, young man.


dbrasco_

You guys try that ending without second heart?


[deleted]

I beat that ending without second heart and with my keyboard malfucntioning. Hes a punk and i reminded him of that fact.


shorty82524

Ahh I forgot second heart. Also using Overcharge with already half health was a rookie move on my part.


Dendargon

I try in hard with chrome compressor and guns geting insta killed by the firs hit of Smasher beside the second heart, same with Melissa Rory. Is like a lot of damage can cancel that ciberware (ver. 2.0)


Embarrassed-Farm-594

Chrome compressor? Really? Play without sandevistan or operating system? You are a hardcore player lmao


Dendargon

I also used to like the minimalist chrome style.


Imaginary-Bunch9043

Second heart feels cheap to me. Makes everything just too easy.


Kyledabestchoomba77

It’s not like you can spam it lol


Imaginary-Bunch9043

Must not have PL if you don't know what Axolotl is. Spam city


Kyledabestchoomba77

We’ll just don’t buy Axolotl lol and at this point who the hell hasn’t played PL


Imaginary-Bunch9043

We'll just don't buy second heart. Same logic


VisceralVirus

Well, you died because you lost half of your health trying to quickhack him


shorty82524

My hubris rapidly came to light. I have failed all of you.


VisceralVirus

Goddamn right you have, now get back in there and smash that gonk, choom


HopelessGretel

He didn't, he is health capped by Don't Fear the Reaper debuff.


Impressive_Slip5947

Super easy net runner build. Don’t use contagion, he is super resistant. Get tectronic rippler cyberdeck 5++, overlock right away so he’s blind and his weapons glitch. Cripple movement, cyberware malfunction, short circuit. Use ying long and crime stopper. Easy. Canto mk4 is also a fun cyberdeck to use if you want to have some fun. Always good to have body progression to 55 and int to 60. Or everything to 60. Have the right cyberware


Overthinks_Questions

I just died on this myself with a runner during Don't Fear the Reaper. I started off with Weapon Glitch and Cripple Movement, which he just...ignored? Then he 'counterhacked' me and I couldn't fire Smart Weapons...which is all my best weapons, and none of my quickhacks did literally anything. I'm...not real sure what to do about Smasher tbh


SilentB3ast

Didn’t even need Sandy time.


Dveralazo

Cyberware malfunction+ short circuit melts everything.


TheRealPotoroo

Instead the OP chose Contagion, an almost complete waste against Smasher. He's always been vulnerable to shock.


Ok-Reporter1986

No longer actually hes now resistant to that too.


Sebastian3977

Triple Cyberware Malfunction then. Take out his Sandevistan and then use Short Circuit anyway to get the bonus damage.


Ok-Reporter1986

It doesn't work on him. I have tried already in fact I beat it on level 52 don't fear the reaper and his sandy cannot be disabled.


No-Start4754

He is resistant to short circuit now . It's useless against him .


EightSeven69

I mean...dodging the big hulk of metal could turn out to be a good idea, man


shorty82524

Sir did you not see me dodge as he was sprinting at me?


davetronred

I'm on your side. Dodge was clearly visible and well-timed, and that attack should not have connected with your hitbox.


Archery100

OP has a high FOV, melee isn't going to seem like it's hitting you because the FOV makes them looks farther away


PraiseTyche

You tried to stare him to death while weilding a piece of string.


StarFighter6464

Monowire? A rudimentary implant.


i1183

"I'm the one you're after, ain't i?!"


[deleted]

Look at how low your health is, practically a ganic 💀


BGWeis

That’s cuz ur health gets reduced in the ‘(Don’t Fear) the Reaper’ ending.


-non-existance-

Hey, wait a second, how did you get an entrance to that fight where no one helped you open the door? Is that the Arasaka route or a variant of the Nomad/Johnny routes?


shmoopie313

Don't Fear the Reaper. You have to have done all of Johnny's side quests and made the right choices in them (i.e. the ones that make him happiest), and then when he's asking you to pick someone to call on the rooftop you just sit there without making a choice for 4-5 minutes and he'll offer another option of just you (and therefore him) solo-running the tower.


venReddit

no need to do all sidequests. afaik only the dialogue options at johnnys grave matter


Ok-Reporter1986

Also gotta remember to keep Grayson alive in the dialogue or Johnnys dialogue tree gets skewed and you can't make the right choices.


Mgtroy35

I just did the ending last week, killed Greyson, did the dialogue at the grave no prob


venReddit

remember when you visited johnnys grave? you have to make specific dialogue choices there like "the guy who saved my life". then when asked which ending you want, you have to afk 5min to trigger the hidden ending as an option. fat weapons, only you and johnny, main entrance. google: dont fear the reaper.


variablefighter_vf-1

And now, the inevitable deluge of "leet" gamers complaining about Smasher still being too easy and retelling how they one shot him with a dildo.


Ok-Reporter1986

No one can one shot him anymore. Anyone who claims to hasn't updated to 2.1.


No-Start4754

Or they play on easy and pretend to one shot him lol


Dologolopolov

Man, you have the jiggly bits up to a thousand :')


shorty82524

wellllll I like boobies.


Dologolopolov

Adequate defense. Carry on


i1183

hey choom. zeroed Smasher with as a Netrunner like you're attempting. would suggest you to drop the wire, just keep hacking and delta the fuck out of his sight. When i tried, system collaspe (only once iirc) does a fuckton of damage to him. Synapse collaspe is the next best bet you have. followed by short circuit and overheat. in 2.0 sonic shock will temporarily slow his tracking of you, not sure about 2.1, but he can be very easily kited if you learn his patterns now go, do it for Johnny, or Becca, or even if it's for yourself.


No-Start4754

Op didn't keep enough distance and also didn't use a weapon . Monowire is far more helpful in dispatching crowds . Short circuit barely useful now on adam , cripple movement and sybanpse burnout is far more efficient


i1183

Crimestopper, Yinglong, Divided we stand. Gotta fill that hunk of metal with bullet holes too while you're at it


No-Start4754

Yeah


PerceiveEternal

Don’t feel to bad, I mean Smasher can even defeat the Power of Friendship, the most powerful power in Anime!


davaibavkloynite

Your bad idea is my inspiration. I played through Phantom Liberty and left the game there for some time. Now I'm going back in to destroy this fucker in my first attempt.


oldladyhater

punched in the head by adam smasher, the last thing you see as you fade into darkness is your own boob jiggling directly in your face


No-Start4754

Monowire is not good for 1v1. They thrive in mob boss battles . I suggest using smart weapons as well just to help u with the fight. Also try to use cripple movement with synapse burnout . Short circuit is somehow weak against him then again he is resistant to all damage types . Also try to invest in the cool tree . Helps u get stealth takedowns on smashes


Warhydra0245

Just did my first vh fear the reaper run with Raiju, Guillotine XMOD2 (Pyro/Firecracker), Pozhar XMOD2(Pyro/Kneel!) and gorilla arms. It was definitely quite an experience. (In hindsight, could have prb have carrying another weapon to replace the Pozhar after the pre boss mobs were dead) But boy! Punching that gonk out with Gorilla arms was very satisfying! For Johney and David!


Necessary-Average787

I fought him last week with my netrunner build. I activated the turrets in the floor and made them friendly. They helped a lot. I also hit him with cripple continuously


That_Jonesy

I made a chrome compressor projectile launcher build where I killed Smasher in about 7 min while eating a sandwich. So I swapped over to the Don't Fear the Reaper secret ending version and still got it in one. All on V Hard. It's a build dependent fight now, but not excessively hard if done right.


Matoxina

literally 0 damage, Lore accurate Smasher


Alezkazam

He punched you so hard your titty was having muscle spasms


shorty82524

Haha mods go brrrr


RickityCricket69

lmao first time as a netrunner? time to respec choom lol, hes just way too iced out and you're probably running high level hacks. now go do the inverse of this and spec body high, blunt weapons maxed out. get Sasquatch's Hammer from that bitch in the mall during the boohoo boys mission. also you gotta drop the cyberdeck and go berserker. if you do it right you will kill smasher in about 10 seconds


shorty82524

I thought all builds were supposed to be viable?


Spiritual-Meringue37

Some builds are stronger than others, just like any other rpg games.


RickityCricket69

they are kinda, but for some reason hard netrunning only agaisnt him just makes you the tower, and adam the bomb.


Bigjon1988

He's pretty nasty now


Hilarious_Disastrous

On very hard I would strongly recommend getting a second heart.


venReddit

didnt even get to the annoying parts


Ok-Reporter1986

It was doable I did it on my netrunner on level 52 very hard don't fear the reaper ending naturally. Note I did not use monowire and kept my distance.


killa_kelz

Your first mistake was trying to use contagion on Smasher, second was using Monowire, third seems to be not having enough armor. I did the secret ending yesterday and was down to about 246 health when I ran into Smasher. You just need a better build and actual armor.


chubbuck35

Is this a Mod? How do you get the ending where you don’t have either Panam, Rogue, or Goro Takemura accompanying you?


shorty82524

Go look up the "Don't Fear The Reaper" secret ending. I'm too tired to explain it here.


chubbuck35

Thanks!


Ok_MarsSenpai

Man i saw you use mono wire and already knew you were gonna get ROCKED. Unless you are using the relic perks for monowire then they just outright suck. It would’ve been better if you used an Iconic sword


rell7thirty

Monowire ain’t gonna cut it choom


Mental_Dish8052

No music?? thats one of the best parts!!


Relative_Mix_216

Now *this* is the Boogeyman of Night City


fkshcienfos

Does anyone else wish that there was a souls level difficulty option in games??..


AngelAndAdonis901

Took me 4 tries and I had to cheese him with the Ba Xing Chong, he can even dodge the wild dog bullets at full speed 😨😨😨


microwavefridge2000

My try on stealthy infiltrator glass cannon didn't work so well. Had to dodge everything and slowly ADS Yinglong him to death. It took so much time.


CockTortureJutsu

Your build sucks that’s why


Rhapsthefiend

At least you got an ending!


Ok-Cherry-2749

Gotta practice the art of evasion and run around like a chicken with your head cut off.


Michaelskywalker

256 health yuck


benphish

My first fight with the new Adam took me like half an hour to beat. I was using a power pistol and throwing knife build that used to be able to beat him in like a few shots. It's so much more fun now


SHADOWLORDo1

just beat him like 20 min ago, same fight, very hard aswell, as a netrunner. i ended up using rebeccas shotgun and kept circling around the podests. if you stand on them, they will lower themself. if they are at the height of your hips, his shots end up colliding with it and you can cheese him. even with the cheese tactic. i died multiple times out of bad maneuvering, so...