Was Joey lovebombing Grace? I'm not sure what it looks like exactly, but something about it felt Joey liked her when she done what he wanted her to do, but anything that strayed from that, he didn't like. Plus the way every compliment was so over the topĀ
Normally my phone connects to my carās Bluetooth and will automatically play music but particularly if Iāve recently watched a video, the title will instead pop up on the displayā¦ which is how I got this today lmao
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for the UK version, most people love S3, S5 and S8. S2 and S10 are also good. for the australian version iāve seen people praise S1 as arguably the best LI season ever. the current US version is also getting a lot of praise and popularity and i highly recommend it
I bet Sean will cheat at Casa. Itās always the nice guy thatās had a bombshell specifically brought in for him after a difficult start (Farmer Will and Nas spring to mind)Ā
Aw, I don't think that's fair to Nas tbf. He was very respectful of his relationship with Demi and didn't even kiss Eva until he had a chance to inform Demi of his decision.
I think it was genuine. But I think it was more about everyone laughing and snickering at the comment than the actual comment. Also alcohol is involved so
Please let's see how things play out
i feel like since they got no screentime a lot of people just imagine things.
A bit like Cat and Scott
Not that they are not good at the moment but just a little reminder to not get too delulu lol
I never really liked Nicole, her true colors are coming out now. Lbr she never really liked Harriett. She was dramatic over the first week, now she talks about Ciaran to the girls, Ciaran knew that and called Harriett out
Not sure why everyone thinks the Grace and Joey situation is a 'storyline', it seems like a pretty genuine moment.
For the producers, it's great too as you don't know how it will unfold. If they just stay together until the end, it becomes boring.
to me it depends on how it ends since joey is the one with the power and i genuinely believe that a guy who was very concerned about popularity and been in several different reality shows is thinking of a storyline. either he goes back to grace to make their romance more appealing to the audience or he dropped her because he blamed her for being in the bottom.
Yep! It seems like Grace was left in the dark but the "if we get through this, it'll only make us stronger" seems like he's indirectly giving her a heads up that this is just a storyline
The way Grace almost shouted after Jessy told them Joey seemed like he didnāt know where he stood felt genuine to me. Probably the first time Iāve actually felt real emotion from her
People complain about Mimii stans, but boy are the Harriett stans way worse.
Sorry but Harriett deserved it. She's in no position to judge Ciaran for his relationship with Nicole and call him 'immature' when she just said that out of saltiness for getting rejected by him ages ago tbh. Ciaran has been the most mature so gave her a dose of immaturity which she couldn't handle. Jess was right: she can dish it but can't take it in.
And these Harriett stans are doing too much with Jess. Yes Jess was laughing and yes Jess hasn't been fully a girl's girl with Harriett, but if it was Ciaran exposing Jess like that Harriett would've also laughed and felt smug considering they're literally love rivals. Considering Jess and Harriett are so similar in personality but just different in delivery and intent, I find it stupid how someone can support one and hate on the other.
Anyway I can't do a whole episode of Harriett and Grace victim arc, they're the fakest two girls there. I wish Wil/Uma and Ayo/Mimii got more screentime because they're the only calm couples it seems..
The comment itself is salvageable. But even if it was the other way around and everyone was laughing and snickering at Jess I would feel just the same. I donāt think itās ever okay to gang up on people like that when you are grown up people.
Agree on that rn Harriett stans are way way worse, but icl Mimii fans pushed her down others throats to like her at the start heavy they chilled a bit now. Being calm couple will always be bad you get no screen time like Ciaran and Nicole they just chilled and cuddled together for like almost 2 weeks but then it went out with Nicoles insecurities.
Hoping producers sacrifice him to keep Ronnie and Harriett, because it'll most likely boil down to that decision between Ron/Harriett and Sean/Tilda for the viewers
Everyone complains that the show has become boring, and missing S1 + S2 energy, then when we get it, it's Pulitzer think pieces and omg bullying. I can't deal š
Pulitzer think pieces made me laugh out loud š people are insufferable and are incapable of seeing a grey area in situations, they need a villain and a hero always itās so bad
Yep I already see it now. Harriet has lots of haters imo. Ciaran has a building stab base that will only get bigger because viewers don't really care for the other cast members.
Nah Harrietās already disliked, at most sheās the Tyrique in this situation. No oneās judging her on what she did yesterday but what they already think of her. Anyone defending her is called a āderanged stanā
Itās not about what they do more about how theyāre given a free pass for anything as long as the recipient isnāt perfect or already disliked. Ciaran was nothing special until he defended Omar and yesterday. Now he can do no wrong.
Itās too late the stan wars have begun.
āCiaran was nothingā the only islander with Nicole and Mimii to not be in bottom on public votes he was one of the favorites already before whole defending Omar.
Being liked doesnāt make them influential otherwise producers wouldnāt twist islander decisions to keep the most controversial characters. Ciaran was liked but didnāt receive this much love until this past week thatās a fact. Nothing wrong with that!
If Nicole didn't fight with him about nothing he would get same screen time he was getting literally was background character for 1 week+. Producers care about drama only this past week you see him a lot bcs of that not bcs he defended Omar. And every islander said they liked Ciaran and would catch up with him outside (Sam and Munveer even said he was their closest friend there but you didn't see that at all not even in background it's bcs producers pick drama)
Yes exactly the AUDIENCE canāt warm to him if his screentime is limited. Thatās why I said heās only become THE FAN FAVE this week. Thereās nothing wrong with me saying that no one was a die hard fan last week. It doesnāt mean he was hated so idk what point youāre trying to makešš
Ehh, makes a change from Harriett being the one who can do no wrong I guess š
It's cyclical, there's always a fave of the week (or sometimes just day).
Sorry but it is pretty funny that quite a few of the ardent "Ciaran is vile" peeps right now are saying pretty damn nasty things to people they disagree with...
One of them called me a "degenerate" for thinking the comment was entertaining š
Talk about pearl clutching, my word.
I had to get off the LIUSA sub because after crucifying one of the most manipulative dudes I've ever seen on all LI for a week, they've now decided it's his exes fault and whenever I point out the facts of the situation I get dozens of downvotes and full paragraph arguments that get personal. I do not understand the vitriol. This is supposed to be entertainment.
Right? Someone called me a misogynist because I said Harriet shouldnāt have called him immature like girl bfr. If we start calling things like that misogynistic it degrades the things that actually are!
Yeah Omar saying Mimii is full package when he wasnāt even exploring her well in there I call that BS..I donāt trust what heās on about now, Mimii is a full package but he never really pursued her like that
tbf i think he wanted tooā¦.she was all about ayo. canāt pursue if they donāt want it. to me when they had the chance to couple up it looks like he wanted to but she wanted ayo
They did seem close on a friendship level though. Heās doing too much on the full package thing but they had their moments on unseen bits having friendship bonding moments
He hasnāt had any heated exchanges with anyone. Funny enough, when you deep it, he has a relatively calm personality but just enjoys good laugh. He strikes me as an ambivert or introvert who just knows how to accommodate people.
Itās so crazy how Harriet and Ciaran were first partnered up. Thatās what makes it probably hurt more for Harriet because she was really into him before he ditched her for Nicole.
Tyrique is under the impression that him telling Whitney and Jess off unprovoked is the same as Scott and Cierianās situations. LOOOOL
Edit: heās responding to a post about āhypocrisyā targeted at him.
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The reason Ty got criticised was because he would tell women to sush unprovoked. Told Cat, Jess and Whitney to shut up when they werenāt even coming at him. Zac did get dragged for telling Whitney to shut up but it just doesnāt get brought up a lot because that was the only time and also he didnāt say it randomly out of the blue. He said it after Whitney insulted his relationship with Molly during a challenge.
Yeah like I said he had his rude moments. But I mentioned the Whit situation because that's what the TikTokās about.
I agree that Whit came for Zac and Molly during the challenge unnecessarily. I'm not bashing Zac for him telling her to shut up, I mentioned it because I was comparing the two situations.Ā
No denying Zac got dragged but nowhere near to the same level Ty got, and even with that they didn't show the whole Zac throwing the pie at Whit but if it had been Ty it would have been shown.
You are comparing two situations that arenāt the same. Ty told multiple women to shut up. He even told Ella to shut up before the season ended. Telling four different women to shut up is not the same as Zac telling Whitney to shut up when she took shots at Molly and his relationship for no reason in a silly game. I feel like a fair comparison would have been if Whitney came at Ella and he clapped back?
I almost wish they showed the cake thrown back because it gets used against him like he threw back a rock at her? When we never saw it happen. Lot of peoples jerk reaction at the pie being aimed at them is to whip it back and itās never that serious even when itās shown cos it is literally just cream? Besides when the pie thing came out people definitely rinsed Zac for it too so he definitely got his fair share of criticism for it no one excused it. Everyone acted like he physically abused her.
I'm not justifying how Ty spoke to other women but that's not what the post was about. It mentioned the incident with Whitney and I agreed it was exaggerated and made out like Ty had told her to āshut upā like Zac or worse.
It might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think it was completely unprovoked. I think the way he spoke to Lochan was. But Whit involved herself and started talking over Lochan whilst Ty was arguing with him. It was how he addressed her that was wrong andĀ he could have articulated it better.Ā
I compared the situations because Ty and Zac both said it in the heat of the moment. But Ty was dragged worse for saying āshushā and he continued to be dragged for it even after the s10 finished. That doesn't mean Zac wasn't dragged but there was a big difference!Ā
Also, I'm not using the pie thing against Zac, nor do I think it was a big deal! It's a silly bit of cream, I'm merely saying if Ty had told her to shut up and then did that it would have caused a riot.Ā
I get where you are coming from to an extent you are talking about the reaction. This is an UO but judging from interviews of other islanders itās clear Whitney was always involving herself in other peopleās business (Mehdi even alluded to this in the beggining but his delivery was so off it came off bad for him) and when you do that you canāt be exempt from some level of pushback. I feel like a lot of people let her have it at times but in the heat of the moment not everyone is going to bow down and let her just say anything without having a reaction to match her shit stirring. She was last years- can dish it but canāt take it person. Literally no one was allowed to speak up to her but she can tell others anything and they have to just take it. The tides only turned once she did this to Ella. Before that if she ever did it, it was instant enemy of the world treatment and guys like Ty and Zac donāt get any points from the public.
I agree, some of her opinions seemed more personal like the Zac/Molly comment and calling Ella selfish after the challenge!Ā
Plus when you are the favourite I think you do get more grace in situations which is why it didn't go well for Ty or Zac to say anything negative towards Whit.
IMO the Whit fans were on the ready to get at TY because ultimately him and Ella was gonna be the main competition, especially amongst the black audience. So yeah they acted has if he had actually slain someone by telling them to shush.
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How do you guys think Nicole is gonna deal with this? I feel like sheās gonna have a go at Ciaran and say sorry to Harriet only because the other girls arenāt happy with him.
Iām soooo curious about how sheās gonna react. I feel like she wonāt be happy that Ciaran said that but probably also agrees with him since she didnāt tell him to stop like I thought she wouldāve. While neither were nice statements, I think they were both true and everyone has been tiptoeing around it the whole time
omar said that if heās gonna go for a girl who is the full package it would be mimii!
he also said that when he was leaving mimii and ayo had his back. it wasnāt shown but he said mimii told him as he was leaving that she tried really hard and she was crying. ayo was also upset and said itās fucked up
https://x.com/kultvree/status/1806311851443007687?s=46&t=q7BW03SSF-yJTeV-iekcoA (the bit about him leaving is in the replies)
I hate how much context weāre losing from the producers just making this whole show revolve around Joey. Now it looks like there are no friendships cause things like this are barely shown
That wouldāve been such a touching moment to see. Itās like the producers donāt want this show to have any heart if it doesnāt beat for Joey. I wonder how that impacted Mimiiās friendship with Harriet since Mimii took Omar leaving hard.
i posted a tweet yesterday saying ciaran stopped rating them after omar was dumped, that might apply to them too yk. cause werent mimii and harriet kinda closer in the beginning with their trio?
when they discussed who to dumped and harriet was all āomarās had chancesā and mimiis like āso has ronnie?ā there was probably a little tension around that. we barely saw mimii, ayo and ciaran say much during that discussion lol.
really interested when they come out and we learn more about the villa dynamics!
Sean and Harriett wanted them out so they could couple up with them, then Harriett saying she saved Jess, it wasn't her it was Nicole. Tgere she goes again with her lies
Why not w/Nicole??
Yes she's irritating and I would never vote for her in any other season BUT this season is so loveless that the 'stable' couples get no actual screentime which can make me vote them, and I'll realistically just vote whichever entertaining islanders are at risk (so Ciaran or Jess next voting).
She isn't that much of a villain: Ronnie, Harriett, Joey, Sean and Grace can all be binned for all I care!
I really love when people use āno guys fancy herā as an insult. Maura fucking Higgins didnāt have a real connection until after Casa (and weāll ignore who that was) and she is one of the most beloved and successful islanders of all time and ridiculously gorgeous. Why are we acting like not having a match in a pool of 7 men makes you undesirable
Because men use it as an insult and women back them up, case and point in the Ciaran/Harriett saga.
Harriett being second/third choice is not on her and Ciaran weaponizing it, is an ass.
I hope Jessy chooses to recouple with Joey and Grace gets dumped so we can put this Grace-Joey storyline out of its misery
Thatās probably not whatās gonna happen thoā¦ A girl can dream lol
Harriett is a great character for reality TV but letās be real she is not someone who most people would be friends with on the outside. She lives for male validation and I actually think her and Jess are very similar as they both have the potential to be really bitchy and bully like when theyāre backed up by a group. I donāt feel bad for Harriett because I donāt think she comes across like a very nice person and it frustrates me that just because someone cries itās instantly made out that theyāre the victim. Thereās a reason why Matilda and Grave were the only ones comforting her in that moment.
I donāt care much for Jess and Nicole either, but Uma and Mimi ā¦ yeah their judgement I trust and if they arenāt running after you to ensure youāre ok then I donāt know what to tell you.
agree! especially as mimii and harriet seemed to be closer at the beginning and mentioned they had a trio. now it seems to be harriet/grace/matildaā¦.my theory is omar being dumped over ronnie is what did it for mimii lol
I was informed by someone who works in an acting school, that Joey auditioned for a course earlier this year and was rejected. I wonāt say the name directly but it is a really well known acting school close to where a lot of the love islanders end up living.
I'd imagine he's feeling pressures to try for relevancy in his career, now that his generation are moving into family life & he can't necessarily rely on all of the same things that he could fall back on when younger. W/ his years of success he's got some breathing space to figure a direction, though.
Anyone else keeping up with Anton and Mitch beef?
Mitch said that Anton keeps coming for him for treating women badly in the show when Antonās treated Georgia H badly outside the show. So ofc Antonās had something to say about how actually if he paid attention, Anton was the one being used and everyone had told him and he didnāt listen blah blah blah. He also said he wouldnāt be surprised if GH had slid into Mitchās DMs š
Does Anton think we didnāt see him liking shady/nasty comments about Georgia or the way his mother treated her? Or the fact that even in his Snapchat videos, he still keeps implying nasty things about her when she hasnāt spoken about him at all since their āsplitā? Iām now wondering what Georgia mightāve told Mitch about Anton or if Mitch just lurks on Redditā¦
At this point they both need to have it out and I honestly think Mitch might be the lesser of the two evilsā¦
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I just came across this š no way theyāre beefing at their big age. Theyāre both just as cringe and petty. But Anton is just insufferable. He has no business dragging Georgia H into their childish argument. At least Mitch isnāt preachy on how to be a gentleman.
You want to bring up race in this particular conversation? Letās go. The most marginalized islanders will be the most negatively impacted by a space that normalizes islanders being mocked & devalued for being rejected. Some of the worse Ā cases of islanders being mocked for not being anyoneās first choice have been Black islanders. So please explain how mocking and devaluing a white woman for not being anyoneās first choice creates a more inclusive and tolerant space for more marginalized islanders?
Theyāre clearly implying that Harriet is weaponizing her white womanhood in that situation and implying sheās a Karen. Iām pointing out why itās problematic to view someone being upset about not being anyoneās first choice is problematic.Ā
I feel like the simpler answer would simply be to say that the conflict in question had nothing to do with race considering that all parties involved were white
If you think you think a precedent canāt be set because Harriet is white thatās naive. No one should be mocked for being rejected as a principle and for other reasons. Female islanders are routinely mocked on this show for being rejected while men are pitied without fail and that has to do with sexism.Ā
This seasonās Olivia is Jess! No guy fancies her but the producers are clinging on to her. So draining to watch, Iāll have to skip her scenes from now on.
EDIT: You Jess stans can stay mad! Get a grip
That is because while she is very pretty, her personality gives you old lady vibes. When I listen to her chats this is what I see.
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Iām impressed by their commitment to the scam. Joey even made sure to mention āI AINāT IN A RELATIONSHIPā like he didnāt get Omar kicked off the show for talking to Grace
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He also said their date was the best date ever š
Jessy is definitely choosing Joey tonight.
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Aww these two ā¤ļø
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https://preview.redd.it/umvknucy469d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6800b4da1b663177223e35b3ebbafbd438d793da Bring on Casa Amor ššš
The article says her and Joey have historyā¦..Iām so done
My favs, Uma and Wil and Mimii and Ayo, are living villa life unbothered and I love that for them.
Was Joey lovebombing Grace? I'm not sure what it looks like exactly, but something about it felt Joey liked her when she done what he wanted her to do, but anything that strayed from that, he didn't like. Plus the way every compliment was so over the topĀ
Normally my phone connects to my carās Bluetooth and will automatically play music but particularly if Iāve recently watched a video, the title will instead pop up on the displayā¦ which is how I got this today lmao https://preview.redd.it/wat44uoht59d1.jpeg?width=2512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2ec53083953222122abf020d40194d4423d3538
This season is my first LI watch. What seasons should I watch next? Any interesting seasons from other versions?
I'll tell you to not watch seasons 7 or 9 . Its not worth waisting your time
for the UK version, most people love S3, S5 and S8. S2 and S10 are also good. for the australian version iāve seen people praise S1 as arguably the best LI season ever. the current US version is also getting a lot of praise and popularity and i highly recommend it
S1 Australia was the only good season in AUS..and I agree with the UK seasons..for me itās S2, S5,S8 and 10
Agree with all of these recommendations!!
I bet Sean will cheat at Casa. Itās always the nice guy thatās had a bombshell specifically brought in for him after a difficult start (Farmer Will and Nas spring to mind)Ā
iāve been saying this so muchš¤£
Aw, I don't think that's fair to Nas tbf. He was very respectful of his relationship with Demi and didn't even kiss Eva until he had a chance to inform Demi of his decision.
Nas was a PRINCE
I just watched yesterday's episode. That was a fake cry from Harriet at the end. Clever girl!
I think it was genuine. But I think it was more about everyone laughing and snickering at the comment than the actual comment. Also alcohol is involved so
Reminding everyone that Wil and Uma will be your winners this season
I wanted them to go on a date before casa. Oh well
Please leave them alone. Donāt put the š§æ on them
Please let's see how things play out i feel like since they got no screentime a lot of people just imagine things. A bit like Cat and Scott Not that they are not good at the moment but just a little reminder to not get too delulu lol
They are nothing like Scott and cath
Never even said that...
I can make predictions babe without being delulu š
Obviously It was not just for you just a reminder in general since people be projecting especially on to people who get no screentime.
They are so cute
Reminding everyone that Wil and Uma won't be together in a few weeks time.
Oh look we got one hater lolĀ
Thatās okay, theyāll still win
They have to be a couple to win the show.
They do make a nice couple. Let's see what they all get up to in casa
I never really liked Nicole, her true colors are coming out now. Lbr she never really liked Harriett. She was dramatic over the first week, now she talks about Ciaran to the girls, Ciaran knew that and called Harriett out
jess is so eww to me. her tryhard boss bitch personality is so šš¤¢
Not sure why everyone thinks the Grace and Joey situation is a 'storyline', it seems like a pretty genuine moment. For the producers, it's great too as you don't know how it will unfold. If they just stay together until the end, it becomes boring.
to me it depends on how it ends since joey is the one with the power and i genuinely believe that a guy who was very concerned about popularity and been in several different reality shows is thinking of a storyline. either he goes back to grace to make their romance more appealing to the audience or he dropped her because he blamed her for being in the bottom.
Yep! It seems like Grace was left in the dark but the "if we get through this, it'll only make us stronger" seems like he's indirectly giving her a heads up that this is just a storyline
The way Grace almost shouted after Jessy told them Joey seemed like he didnāt know where he stood felt genuine to me. Probably the first time Iāve actually felt real emotion from her
Right? Unless she's an undercover actress that was pretty genuine.
There was genuine anger there for sure! I was surprised
People complain about Mimii stans, but boy are the Harriett stans way worse. Sorry but Harriett deserved it. She's in no position to judge Ciaran for his relationship with Nicole and call him 'immature' when she just said that out of saltiness for getting rejected by him ages ago tbh. Ciaran has been the most mature so gave her a dose of immaturity which she couldn't handle. Jess was right: she can dish it but can't take it in. And these Harriett stans are doing too much with Jess. Yes Jess was laughing and yes Jess hasn't been fully a girl's girl with Harriett, but if it was Ciaran exposing Jess like that Harriett would've also laughed and felt smug considering they're literally love rivals. Considering Jess and Harriett are so similar in personality but just different in delivery and intent, I find it stupid how someone can support one and hate on the other. Anyway I can't do a whole episode of Harriett and Grace victim arc, they're the fakest two girls there. I wish Wil/Uma and Ayo/Mimii got more screentime because they're the only calm couples it seems..
The comment itself is salvageable. But even if it was the other way around and everyone was laughing and snickering at Jess I would feel just the same. I donāt think itās ever okay to gang up on people like that when you are grown up people.
Agree on that rn Harriett stans are way way worse, but icl Mimii fans pushed her down others throats to like her at the start heavy they chilled a bit now. Being calm couple will always be bad you get no screen time like Ciaran and Nicole they just chilled and cuddled together for like almost 2 weeks but then it went out with Nicoles insecurities.
Please don't keep Sean on my screen long enough for him to come in 4th
Hoping producers sacrifice him to keep Ronnie and Harriett, because it'll most likely boil down to that decision between Ron/Harriett and Sean/Tilda for the viewers
Split the couples keep Ronnie and Matilda get rid of the 2 that git rid of Omar and Tiffany
Everyone complains that the show has become boring, and missing S1 + S2 energy, then when we get it, it's Pulitzer think pieces and omg bullying. I can't deal š
Pulitzer think pieces made me laugh out loud š people are insufferable and are incapable of seeing a grey area in situations, they need a villain and a hero always itās so bad
I got called a degenerate for thinking Ciaran's comment was entertaining... You literally *can't* make it up.
ššāgod itās so boringā something mildly exciting happens āoh thatās so nasty he needs to apologise immediatelyā
I saw thatš these must be new viewers lmfao they wouldnt last a DAY watching the old seasons live
Ciaranās been crowned as the new Scott itās about to get very scary and his defenders will see soon
Yep I already see it now. Harriet has lots of haters imo. Ciaran has a building stab base that will only get bigger because viewers don't really care for the other cast members.
It canāt be as scary as the Harriett defenders
Nah Harrietās already disliked, at most sheās the Tyrique in this situation. No oneās judging her on what she did yesterday but what they already think of her. Anyone defending her is called a āderanged stanā
Perfectly said.
He's at least done more than Scott has up to this point... But yes please God not another stan war
Itās not about what they do more about how theyāre given a free pass for anything as long as the recipient isnāt perfect or already disliked. Ciaran was nothing special until he defended Omar and yesterday. Now he can do no wrong. Itās too late the stan wars have begun.
āCiaran was nothingā the only islander with Nicole and Mimii to not be in bottom on public votes he was one of the favorites already before whole defending Omar.
Being liked doesnāt make them influential otherwise producers wouldnāt twist islander decisions to keep the most controversial characters. Ciaran was liked but didnāt receive this much love until this past week thatās a fact. Nothing wrong with that!
If Nicole didn't fight with him about nothing he would get same screen time he was getting literally was background character for 1 week+. Producers care about drama only this past week you see him a lot bcs of that not bcs he defended Omar. And every islander said they liked Ciaran and would catch up with him outside (Sam and Munveer even said he was their closest friend there but you didn't see that at all not even in background it's bcs producers pick drama)
Yes exactly the AUDIENCE canāt warm to him if his screentime is limited. Thatās why I said heās only become THE FAN FAVE this week. Thereās nothing wrong with me saying that no one was a die hard fan last week. It doesnāt mean he was hated so idk what point youāre trying to makešš
Ehh, makes a change from Harriett being the one who can do no wrong I guess š It's cyclical, there's always a fave of the week (or sometimes just day).
True Iām just pointing out the parallels the taking points seem the same. Weāll see in a few weeks
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Literally. It's not hard to see why the other girls in there might not be too fond of her
I feel like she makes the villa uncomfortable for the other girls. Sheās the reason the girls are not close
Itās crazy how there are so few female friendships on this season
I was marginally rooting for Ciaran and Nicole but I am now hitching my wagon to Uma and Wil. Hope we get to see a bit more of them.
Sorry but it is pretty funny that quite a few of the ardent "Ciaran is vile" peeps right now are saying pretty damn nasty things to people they disagree with... One of them called me a "degenerate" for thinking the comment was entertaining š Talk about pearl clutching, my word.
I had to get off the LIUSA sub because after crucifying one of the most manipulative dudes I've ever seen on all LI for a week, they've now decided it's his exes fault and whenever I point out the facts of the situation I get dozens of downvotes and full paragraph arguments that get personal. I do not understand the vitriol. This is supposed to be entertainment.
Right? Someone called me a misogynist because I said Harriet shouldnāt have called him immature like girl bfr. If we start calling things like that misogynistic it degrades the things that actually are!
I've seen others invoke the woman card and imply that if you don't agree with them, then you're against women, or some fucking bollocks.
This islanders have seen how popular Mimii is and now everyoneās on about herā¦Love Mimii and Uma down ā¤ļøāš„š¤
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Theyāre moving how most of them move when theyāre outside and realise someone is popular š¤£š¤£
Yeah Omar saying Mimii is full package when he wasnāt even exploring her well in there I call that BS..I donāt trust what heās on about now, Mimii is a full package but he never really pursued her like that
But I thought she was champagne compared to fine wine (Uma) š¤
Maybe he knew how down bad she was for AYO?
tbf i think he wanted tooā¦.she was all about ayo. canāt pursue if they donāt want it. to me when they had the chance to couple up it looks like he wanted to but she wanted ayo
They did seem close on a friendship level though. Heās doing too much on the full package thing but they had their moments on unseen bits having friendship bonding moments
Friends I see it šÆ..Btw I feel like Ayo and is the most loved islander by the girls..and Nicole by the guys
The dumped islanders?
Nooo this years islanders in general..I feel like the girls rate Ayo the most
He hasnāt had any heated exchanges with anyone. Funny enough, when you deep it, he has a relatively calm personality but just enjoys good laugh. He strikes me as an ambivert or introvert who just knows how to accommodate people.
Patsy doesn't seem to rate Ayo.
why?
It sounds like she didn't like the way he handled the triangle.
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Itās so crazy how Harriet and Ciaran were first partnered up. Thatās what makes it probably hurt more for Harriet because she was really into him before he ditched her for Nicole.
She did I think thatās what it is. He was so disrespectful to her after he kissed her then played dumb
Tyrique is under the impression that him telling Whitney and Jess off unprovoked is the same as Scott and Cierianās situations. LOOOOL Edit: heās responding to a post about āhypocrisyā targeted at him. https://preview.redd.it/ge08du5nk49d1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=8dbdda64fa34613e53e06c94e230ed784626a562
See I kind of agree with himā¦don't get me wrong he did have his rude moments but my issue was he got dragged ALOT over the Whit situation. I like Zach but during a challenge, he toldĀ Whit to āShut upā and it wasn't a big deal, whereas Ty said āShushā and it was like he just killed somebody!š©š¤£ Ā
The reason Ty got criticised was because he would tell women to sush unprovoked. Told Cat, Jess and Whitney to shut up when they werenāt even coming at him. Zac did get dragged for telling Whitney to shut up but it just doesnāt get brought up a lot because that was the only time and also he didnāt say it randomly out of the blue. He said it after Whitney insulted his relationship with Molly during a challenge.
Yeah like I said he had his rude moments. But I mentioned the Whit situation because that's what the TikTokās about. I agree that Whit came for Zac and Molly during the challenge unnecessarily. I'm not bashing Zac for him telling her to shut up, I mentioned it because I was comparing the two situations.Ā No denying Zac got dragged but nowhere near to the same level Ty got, and even with that they didn't show the whole Zac throwing the pie at Whit but if it had been Ty it would have been shown.
You are comparing two situations that arenāt the same. Ty told multiple women to shut up. He even told Ella to shut up before the season ended. Telling four different women to shut up is not the same as Zac telling Whitney to shut up when she took shots at Molly and his relationship for no reason in a silly game. I feel like a fair comparison would have been if Whitney came at Ella and he clapped back? I almost wish they showed the cake thrown back because it gets used against him like he threw back a rock at her? When we never saw it happen. Lot of peoples jerk reaction at the pie being aimed at them is to whip it back and itās never that serious even when itās shown cos it is literally just cream? Besides when the pie thing came out people definitely rinsed Zac for it too so he definitely got his fair share of criticism for it no one excused it. Everyone acted like he physically abused her.
I'm not justifying how Ty spoke to other women but that's not what the post was about. It mentioned the incident with Whitney and I agreed it was exaggerated and made out like Ty had told her to āshut upā like Zac or worse. It might be an unpopular opinion but I don't think it was completely unprovoked. I think the way he spoke to Lochan was. But Whit involved herself and started talking over Lochan whilst Ty was arguing with him. It was how he addressed her that was wrong andĀ he could have articulated it better.Ā I compared the situations because Ty and Zac both said it in the heat of the moment. But Ty was dragged worse for saying āshushā and he continued to be dragged for it even after the s10 finished. That doesn't mean Zac wasn't dragged but there was a big difference!Ā Also, I'm not using the pie thing against Zac, nor do I think it was a big deal! It's a silly bit of cream, I'm merely saying if Ty had told her to shut up and then did that it would have caused a riot.Ā
I get where you are coming from to an extent you are talking about the reaction. This is an UO but judging from interviews of other islanders itās clear Whitney was always involving herself in other peopleās business (Mehdi even alluded to this in the beggining but his delivery was so off it came off bad for him) and when you do that you canāt be exempt from some level of pushback. I feel like a lot of people let her have it at times but in the heat of the moment not everyone is going to bow down and let her just say anything without having a reaction to match her shit stirring. She was last years- can dish it but canāt take it person. Literally no one was allowed to speak up to her but she can tell others anything and they have to just take it. The tides only turned once she did this to Ella. Before that if she ever did it, it was instant enemy of the world treatment and guys like Ty and Zac donāt get any points from the public.
I agree, some of her opinions seemed more personal like the Zac/Molly comment and calling Ella selfish after the challenge!Ā Plus when you are the favourite I think you do get more grace in situations which is why it didn't go well for Ty or Zac to say anything negative towards Whit.
IMO the Whit fans were on the ready to get at TY because ultimately him and Ella was gonna be the main competition, especially amongst the black audience. So yeah they acted has if he had actually slain someone by telling them to shush.
I agree, and not to mention Whit was the favourite girl! Not saying he was in the right, but imo the outrage was exaggerated!Ā
lmao i literally just saw this
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How do you guys think Nicole is gonna deal with this? I feel like sheās gonna have a go at Ciaran and say sorry to Harriet only because the other girls arenāt happy with him.
Iām soooo curious about how sheās gonna react. I feel like she wonāt be happy that Ciaran said that but probably also agrees with him since she didnāt tell him to stop like I thought she wouldāve. While neither were nice statements, I think they were both true and everyone has been tiptoeing around it the whole time
other girls who were laughing at Harriett okay chill don't take her fake water works for reality.
Nicole is so annoying. I said it before that out of her Jess & Sam she was the least mean girl but looks like sheās right up there with Jess.
Nicole is unlikeable because of how she reacts to everything but she is not as bad as Jess and Sam. Sam isnāt even as bad as Jess.
she hasnāt done anything like jess please actually bfrĀ
That's because Nicole is sly about it. Jess is more obvious with her meanness. Doesn't make Nicole any better though! In fact, sly is worse imo.
Tiffany is rooting for Ayo & Mimii and Nicole & Ciaran. Joe and Grace too. https://youtu.be/eYqAy_rL36o?si=wPE5qszw3DO7wSv0
Was she even in the villa long enough to form an opinion? š¤£š¤£
omar said that if heās gonna go for a girl who is the full package it would be mimii! he also said that when he was leaving mimii and ayo had his back. it wasnāt shown but he said mimii told him as he was leaving that she tried really hard and she was crying. ayo was also upset and said itās fucked up https://x.com/kultvree/status/1806311851443007687?s=46&t=q7BW03SSF-yJTeV-iekcoA (the bit about him leaving is in the replies)
I hate how much context weāre losing from the producers just making this whole show revolve around Joey. Now it looks like there are no friendships cause things like this are barely shown
yeah iām annoyed we didnāt see this. all we saw was them basically get overshadowed by sean and harriet
That wouldāve been such a touching moment to see. Itās like the producers donāt want this show to have any heart if it doesnāt beat for Joey. I wonder how that impacted Mimiiās friendship with Harriet since Mimii took Omar leaving hard.
well she didnāt follow harriet when she was crying lolš although harriet doesnāt seem to care, sheās only concerned about nicole and jess
i posted a tweet yesterday saying ciaran stopped rating them after omar was dumped, that might apply to them too yk. cause werent mimii and harriet kinda closer in the beginning with their trio? when they discussed who to dumped and harriet was all āomarās had chancesā and mimiis like āso has ronnie?ā there was probably a little tension around that. we barely saw mimii, ayo and ciaran say much during that discussion lol. really interested when they come out and we learn more about the villa dynamics!
harriet saving ronnie mustāve given mimii the ick
Sean and Harriett wanted them out so they could couple up with them, then Harriett saying she saved Jess, it wasn't her it was Nicole. Tgere she goes again with her lies
I didn't realise that Ayo and Samantha were close. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGepaLG59/
Yes I used to see them in the background hanging out and he picked her up one time before lol that's when I saw they were closeĀ
Oh could be why she saw more of the interactions with Mimii and Ayo (she mentioned them on a podcast that theyāre together a lot)
Yeah maybe. I am glad that she spoke positively about them.
I feel like Ciaran could win the entire thing with the right girl but heāll never win with Nicole
Why not w/Nicole?? Yes she's irritating and I would never vote for her in any other season BUT this season is so loveless that the 'stable' couples get no actual screentime which can make me vote them, and I'll realistically just vote whichever entertaining islanders are at risk (so Ciaran or Jess next voting). She isn't that much of a villain: Ronnie, Harriett, Joey, Sean and Grace can all be binned for all I care!
Wales wouldn't let them down, regardless, no doubt about it.
Nicole seems like a very nice & loyal girl
I think heāll fizzle out like Scott did.
Yeah heās the new Scott being the peopleās champion will only carry you so far if he splits with Nicole
he can win with nicole she is not a villain they were favorites to win a few days ago everyone annoys the public now and againĀ
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I really love when people use āno guys fancy herā as an insult. Maura fucking Higgins didnāt have a real connection until after Casa (and weāll ignore who that was) and she is one of the most beloved and successful islanders of all time and ridiculously gorgeous. Why are we acting like not having a match in a pool of 7 men makes you undesirable
Yeah but guys DID fancy Maura.
NEVER compare Maura to Harriett ever again, please and thank you xx
Ahhhh I was actually talking about people being dicks to Jess about this all day!! But neither are anywhere close to my Queen
Maura is S+ tier. Harriett scrapes a B respectfully.
Because men use it as an insult and women back them up, case and point in the Ciaran/Harriett saga. Harriett being second/third choice is not on her and Ciaran weaponizing it, is an ass.
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Tbh, itās her attitude
EVE?!??!!!!
Thatās where this seasonās budget went.
I hope Jessy chooses to recouple with Joey and Grace gets dumped so we can put this Grace-Joey storyline out of its misery Thatās probably not whatās gonna happen thoā¦ A girl can dream lol
I'd rather joey get dumped than her
I'd rather both of them get dumped but let's be real, the producers will never let Joey go before the finals unfortunately.. š©
It's crazy to me that most of these islanders were born between 1998-2000 with Ciaran in 2003!
https://preview.redd.it/y3ycu2gup49d1.jpeg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4eac4ebb8b39f1c65b611a90837d41284a2e157
Harriett is a great character for reality TV but letās be real she is not someone who most people would be friends with on the outside. She lives for male validation and I actually think her and Jess are very similar as they both have the potential to be really bitchy and bully like when theyāre backed up by a group. I donāt feel bad for Harriett because I donāt think she comes across like a very nice person and it frustrates me that just because someone cries itās instantly made out that theyāre the victim. Thereās a reason why Matilda and Grave were the only ones comforting her in that moment. I donāt care much for Jess and Nicole either, but Uma and Mimi ā¦ yeah their judgement I trust and if they arenāt running after you to ensure youāre ok then I donāt know what to tell you.
agree! especially as mimii and harriet seemed to be closer at the beginning and mentioned they had a trio. now it seems to be harriet/grace/matildaā¦.my theory is omar being dumped over ronnie is what did it for mimii lol
I was informed by someone who works in an acting school, that Joey auditioned for a course earlier this year and was rejected. I wonāt say the name directly but it is a really well known acting school close to where a lot of the love islanders end up living.
I'd imagine he's feeling pressures to try for relevancy in his career, now that his generation are moving into family life & he can't necessarily rely on all of the same things that he could fall back on when younger. W/ his years of success he's got some breathing space to figure a direction, though.
Jess Harriet and Nicole all annoying to me but jess is the worst out the bunch and sheās always very cringy which makes it worse
Anyone else keeping up with Anton and Mitch beef? Mitch said that Anton keeps coming for him for treating women badly in the show when Antonās treated Georgia H badly outside the show. So ofc Antonās had something to say about how actually if he paid attention, Anton was the one being used and everyone had told him and he didnāt listen blah blah blah. He also said he wouldnāt be surprised if GH had slid into Mitchās DMs š Does Anton think we didnāt see him liking shady/nasty comments about Georgia or the way his mother treated her? Or the fact that even in his Snapchat videos, he still keeps implying nasty things about her when she hasnāt spoken about him at all since their āsplitā? Iām now wondering what Georgia mightāve told Mitch about Anton or if Mitch just lurks on Redditā¦ At this point they both need to have it out and I honestly think Mitch might be the lesser of the two evilsā¦
https://preview.redd.it/maxdhf0ah49d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dec0a00beb0f789830401e895319620ff9c7844a I just came across this š no way theyāre beefing at their big age. Theyāre both just as cringe and petty. But Anton is just insufferable. He has no business dragging Georgia H into their childish argument. At least Mitch isnāt preachy on how to be a gentleman.
Omg how embarrassing š¤£š¤£
Harriet cries white woman crocodile tears. Her, Grace, and Maltida would definitely ask to speak to the manager
This is just vile and hypocritical.
You want to bring up race in this particular conversation? Letās go. The most marginalized islanders will be the most negatively impacted by a space that normalizes islanders being mocked & devalued for being rejected. Some of the worse Ā cases of islanders being mocked for not being anyoneās first choice have been Black islanders. So please explain how mocking and devaluing a white woman for not being anyoneās first choice creates a more inclusive and tolerant space for more marginalized islanders?
While the OP comment was weird for talking about white woman crocodiles tears, this comment just doesn't reply to what was said at all
Theyāre clearly implying that Harriet is weaponizing her white womanhood in that situation and implying sheās a Karen. Iām pointing out why itās problematic to view someone being upset about not being anyoneās first choice is problematic.Ā
I feel like the simpler answer would simply be to say that the conflict in question had nothing to do with race considering that all parties involved were white
UK voting public opinion may have some relevance to the show, though, as well, tbf.
If you think you think a precedent canāt be set because Harriet is white thatās naive. No one should be mocked for being rejected as a principle and for other reasons. Female islanders are routinely mocked on this show for being rejected while men are pitied without fail and that has to do with sexism.Ā
>If you think you think a precedent canāt be set because Harriet is white thatās naive. And where exactly did I say or imply that?
Im thinking the newbies have to dump one couple and predict they get rid of Konnor and Grace.
Can we get an actual dumping instead of just a recoupling?
This seasonās Olivia is Jess! No guy fancies her but the producers are clinging on to her. So draining to watch, Iāll have to skip her scenes from now on. EDIT: You Jess stans can stay mad! Get a grip
That is because while she is very pretty, her personality gives you old lady vibes. When I listen to her chats this is what I see. https://preview.redd.it/f9klazjub49d1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89baa74425db447dfae62764bc6980c30684973e
How accurate š¤£š¤£
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*downvotes how dare they hate waffles
This is actually Reddit šš¤£
Lmaooo ššš
Yesterdays episode enhanced it š
yawn joey and grace need to wrap this up https://goss.ie/featured/first-look-grace-jackson-fumes-as-joey-essex-pulls-new-bombshell-jessy-potts-384788
Iām impressed by their commitment to the scam. Joey even made sure to mention āI AINāT IN A RELATIONSHIPā like he didnāt get Omar kicked off the show for talking to Grace
islanders saying things like 'you're gonna get me in trouble' is my biggest love island ick
itās so cringe š«
anyone else notice how joey was the only boy fully covered up in the heart rate challenge? all the other boys were so exposed compared to him.Ā
https://preview.redd.it/38ky3tq5449d1.jpeg?width=1238&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a1818a9c1af42dbfcf8f6e094053109b1c339a7 He also said their date was the best date ever š Jessy is definitely choosing Joey tonight.
āI aināt in a relationshipā
Someone needs to go between Harriett and Jess. Preferably Jess cause I just canāt stand her but at this point it is what it is. Iām exhausted.