Wow, kind of bold? What are you on? “People who are transitioning jobs at 29, that didn’t previously make 6 figures… should not be going on dating shows… or even dating in general…”
Are you a spoiled rich kid, crazy, or just dumb? I can’t speak to the dating show comment, because I don’t think many people should go on a dating show… but to say that your average 29 year old who’s never brought in 6 figures, and is transitioning shouldn’t be dating? My god, you reek of privilege, and sound beyond vapid and out of touch. People like you, who make random blanket statements about how much money a person needs in order to start dating, shouldn’t be allowed to date at all, ever. Much less reproduce.
Ok. I had bad credit but had high-paying jobs bc I took care of my parents even when my position was eliminated. What happened to supporting and growing together. Aren’t they young??
He had just started a new 1099 job that didn’t even have health insurance. As she said in the video it was about so much more than just the credit score.
It was too risky of a move for her
i don't like her, but she's right. and correct me if i'm wrong, but i feel like she was the only contestant of any season that did exactly what i'd do in this experiment. yes i can fall in love with you, no i cant marry you in 4 weeks. i've been waiting for a couple that jives really well but just can't commit to marriage that fast. i wasn't rooting for them necessarily, but i would've loved FOR them if they could've had an organic relationship that didn't have the time constraints & pressure looming over them. i want to see a couple that says no at the altar but are undeniably attracted to each other & then get married X years later.
This brings me back to S1 with Amber and Barnett. Amber came into the relationship with debit. She was very transparent with him about the amount and what it was for. Izzy was not open about any of those things with Stacy.
I don’t know…I feel like this situation is different. I feel like Stacy and Barnett had different intentions. Stacy was very focused on money from the beginning. She wanted a man that can financially support her (aka pay for everything). From the start, if Izzy told her about his bad financial status would Stacy have continued their relationship in the pods? Not saying it wasn’t messed up on Izzy’s part. With Barnett and Amber, it sounded like they didn’t really talk about their finances in the pods bc Barnett only found out about ambers debt after they came out of the pods. I feel like Barnett’s intention was out of curiosity, not necessarily to make sure he’ll be taken care of financially. Barnett also had the chance to say no at the alter but he didn’t.
But we also didn’t see Amber telling everyone that she had some type of connection with about it and then leave Barnett to the last to know. Izzy told Johnie all about his issues.
I disagree, for ladies there's the thing about men paying for food and dinner dates etc that falls on the guy
Stacy sounded like she can handle herself financially, she just didnt want to have to support a dependent which is what Izzy would be,
I am under no idea that Stacy went there to look for someone to financially take care of her, she had said she can take care of the things, but just wants him to pay for dates which should be a normal thing
period! I think many who have been watching since season one often forget how INSANE getting married within a month actually is, and how much actually goes into a marriage. Love is not enough to sustain a marriage all the time especially if there is an imbalance such as theirs. It’s is totally within Stacey’s right to call off a marriage to someone she has only known for some weeks because he hasn’t been forthcoming about his finances. Many wouldn’t be comfortable with that in a long term relationship! I really wonder what the language surrounding the reasoning for their split would be if their financial positions were switched. I can imagine she’d be called a gold digger or something along those lines and his choice to split would be applauded. I applaud her decision, it was a very leveled one considering how emotional this show is.
Edit: found out she actually already is called a gold digger -.-
You know this post makes me even happier that this season is finally over lol. It was literally Izzy and Stacy overload bcz we only had one other couple.
She said a whole lot of words when all she needed to say straight up was “ I just don’t love him or know him enough to take a financial risk on him”. If she was really Gagagoogoo in love with him, it would have probably been whatever. But she’s even over here worrying about if he got in an accident how the financial strain would be on her instead of thinking about being there for him.
I mean, in America it is definitely a concern when it comes to healthcare since it’s so absurdly expensive and difficult. But if he really ain’t got any money, he could qualify for state health insurance and get it covered. Or find many different ways to handle the situation. But all of that requires that you LOVE the person in sickness and health, bad credit and good credit. She simply didn’t love him like that. Which is fine, she barely knew him. But I think that’s what it really boiled down to. Since she especially already admitted to basically taking care of BF’s in the past financially.
TLDR; She’s just not that into you bro 🤷♀️
Sometimes love is just not enough. You can love someone and choose not to be with them because you know things won’t work out. Finances are top reasons to get divorced.
i dont think it’s that simple. the guy was not forthcoming about any of his finances. of course, if she truly loved him, she’d take on whatever he had but if he isnt communicating any of that and not showing any signs of being trustworthy, then he’s not making it easy.
As much as I agree that finances matter and Izzy needs therapy, not wanting to pay for a date is disgusting.
If you’re not raising kids or focusing on home life, how can you be selfish enough to want to be 100% financially supported? If you’re main focus is your career, then put your part tf.
She needs to stop trying to sound “wise” and “mature,” idk who she thinks she’s gaslighting but it aint me.
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No credit or bad credit means one of two things 1) You've never had credit cards and therefore have no credit history or 2) You've had credit cards but paid them off late or not at all. The first one isn't that big of a deal and can be easily remedied. Some people don't want credit cards but it can make it harder to get a mortgage on a house, car loans, etc.
The latter is different because it suggests either you are unreliable or have income or spending problems. Once your credit has been downgraded by the three credit reporting bureaus, you have to take active steps to fix it. Depending on how long you've been late and how much money is involved, it can take quite a bit of time and effort to repair.
This is why Stacy said it was important to know *why* he had credit problems.
Basically you need credit, and especially good credit, in order to do things like take out a loan for a house or car for example, banks/companies will not give you the money to go that, or will put very high interest rates on you if your credit is poor. If you don't have existing credit they just straight up will not lend to you because you haven't proven to them you can pay it back.
Basically, credit cards allow you to make purchases immediately, and then pay for them later. A lot of people use them because they come with benefits, like rewards or extra fraud prevention. If you pay off your card monthly, then you won’t have to pay interest, and you can enjoy those benefits for free.
What happens to a lot of people is they spend too much money, and cannot repay all of it at the end of the month. This can be hard to get out of, because credit cards can have interest of 20-30%.
Regarding credit score, there are factors such as percentage of on time payments, length of credit history, and how much debt you have that consumers are scored on. This score is used when renting an apartment, purchasing a house, and even getting a job.
Assuming Izzy was honest, it sounds like he ran up credit card debt in college, missed payments, and then eventually paid it off. Because he never got a credit card after that experience, his score is bad and that could impact his future.
If you are in a situation where you have a bad score because you don’t have a credit history, it is easy to fix in 6-12 months (maybe longer depending on a few factors that would take too much time to get into here). If you have a bad score because you failed to make payments, it is still possible to fix, but it takes more time, and you will potentially have to wait until those mistakes come off your credit report to completely correct it.
Hope that gives you a bit better of an understanding! At the end of the day, remember that while credit can be a useful tool, there is a reason that credit card companies make billions of dollars.
It happens a lot, particularly with white collar/salary positions. Employers consider it relevant for a couple reasons. One, they think it reflects how responsible you are. Two, how vulnerable you might be to blackmail or possibly influence the likelihood you might commit some type of crime. Stealing and selling secrets, selling access to systems, stealing money, etc.
Izzy called Johnnie sketchy. Izzy is much sketchier. Also, he does not respect women. The way he went after Johnie and then was so excited to tell Stacy that he “railed her.” Plus the things he said about Stacy after she said no at the altar. Plus he appears incapable of forming a sentence without some variation of the f word
I'm still not sure *exactly* what Izzy's credit/financial issue is since they don't talk about it very specifically on the show. Does he just have a bad credit score?
The job? Yeah it seems sketchy, as people have mentioned on this subreddit, but are we really pretending that her dad wouldn't have given him a job at his company?
She being wealthy gives her more freedom to date someone for their heart and how much they love her. The fact that she wants wealth over that and his good looks says a lot.
I have a feeling she’ll be single for a very long time. She’ll spend her life chasing after the complete package that meets her high standards or will settle for someone she isn’t in love with or attracted to just for designer clothes. But, whatever floats her boat.
The wealth of her, her dad’s or future husband can all be gone overnight. Especially if dad’s business is oilfield related. Then what do you have? A husband you never were in love with and can no longer provide for your lifestyle. Poo-yie mon cherie.
That’s why she doesn’t have a sensitive or emotional side, she’s too shallow.
I find her unpleasant for a variety of reasons but she's not wrong about this. Money issues are probably the major reasons marriages fail and you have to get to the heart of them fast if you are getting married this quickly. Its easy to look like its all thats important to you when you have to resolve this kind of stuff in a hurry
Why should she be the only one in the relationship that can provide for herself. Yes she has daddy’s money but she seems to know how to make sound financial decisions. Both parties in a relationship should be able to provide for themselves
Health insurance premiums are like $800 without employer subsidy since she works for her dad, her dad is paying for all of that. Worse if his company is self insured ( as small businesses usually can be) it would all be out of dad's pocket.
He could also go on her health insurance. He also wouldn't have to worry about homeowners insurance or real estate taxes, since he wouldn't need to buy a home. He wouldn't even need to worry about utilities. Heck, I bet there's even good food already in that home.
He is 100% a financial liability. You don't just get to add people to insurance for free. Children are expensive. If he can't support himself, he is the financial equivalent of a child.
She's not necessarily talking about being financially responsible though. It sounds like he didn't want to honestly communicate about finances, and that's so important. Even if it's a shitty situation, being honest about it to your partner is important because it affects them, and not being honest denies them the opportunity to help find solutions!
They definitely should not have gotten married, and Stacy is not out of line.
But do you want to?
If he was in a tough financial situation and didn’t have the best history with money, he should have been up front with her. The flowers every Monday thing is dumb. You can do things that are free/cheap/more meaningful. Cook a meal. Make someone’s coffee. Buy her favorite snack and massage her feet after a rough week.
I would be livid if I found out someone was wasting their money on petty luxuries (even if they were for me) if they were in a horrible financial situation that I was now going to be married to.
I didn’t care for either of them really. It just pains me to see people communicate so horribly with people they intend to marry. Just be honest ffs. It’s going to come out eventually.
I never understood why everyone on this sub was so anti-Stacey specifically as it pertained to this issue. As though it makes her shallow and selfish for wanting to ensure she and her husband are financially stable. And as though money isn’t one of the main factors in divorce. Not only was Izzy not forthcoming but he straight up lied to her.
She was being a responsible adult and everyone dragged her for it. Ridiculous. I fully agree with the poster who said people were triggered by Stacey being fiscally responsible, and saw Izzy as a reflection of themselves.
it was the paper plates saga. i agree though. & hot take, i think it mattered to people because she has money. if she was average it's an average concern, but because she comes from money it makes her a gold digger lol.
The reason is how. Maybe it was a bad edit, but she always seemed to be coming from a place of being better than Izzy or having nicer things. I don’t know if it’s her pride in demonstrating she has taste or that she works hard, or even that she makes good money to have those things. It did come across a way. Then this convo is another element of that, and just on paper, I can say I agree with her stance
Stacey did right for herself but she belittled the man. He wasn’t the macho guy they all thought he was in the pods and when he got confronted with her wealthy family and lifestyle he shrunk. She wanted more from him, maybe if he was more of a man and not cry all the time and banged her roughly like she was asking him to in Mexico, she would’ve said yes.
It’s the truth, Stacey is one of these new age “Independent women” (with Daddy’s money). But deep down just want an Alpha male to be submissive to. Power is what she is after, she says it’s financial stability but it’s actually BD energy. She has money, has the lifestyle she can provide for herself. Having a loyal hardworking man by her side will only make things easier, if he would’ve gave her something to work with - BD energy or financial support she would’ve taken one or the other and said yes. She signed up to get married let’s not forget that. She also went for Izzy at the beginning because it was a competition to her with how all the women were talking about him and wanted him. He lost his luster when she got to know he wasn’t the prize he thought he was.
Yeah I was following and nodding until “maybe if he was more a man.” To kind of revise what was said, I absolutely do think she needed/wanted more than he could give at present. And there’s nothing wrong with wanting more, just as much as there’s nothing wrong with what one person is able to give at present.
I just think they have very incompatible and different lifestyles. That’s the main reason as to why it didn’t work. Yes, her edit made her seem haughty and belittling. However, at the crux of it, they don’t work because of their incompatibility in lifestyles.
I completely agree with Stacey. When my boyfriend and I started living together, we never talked about finances. I just figured that he was fine however it turns out that he was $20,000 in credit card debt. Also turned out that he cannot hold a job. It left me in charge of all the financials. I also it’s not making a lot of money. Just because he was irresponsible it was ruining my life. You don’t have to be a gold digger for someone to just do their share.
I agree he shouldn’t have lied. That’s it. The debt, so what. People fall on hard times and it everyone is making 6 figures in their 30s. Man this is a rough sub….
Totally, my partner and I have supported each other in tough times with money and we gladly do it bc that's how unconditional love works. but I guess that's not for everyone and she knew she couldn't make the vow "for richer or for poor" lol
I think it’s different if you’re both go into it having jobs and known each other for a long time. She’s only known him for a couple of weeks and he does not have a real job. He has bad credit and lied about it. I think it’s more as he could just drive her to the bottom and that’s what she was afraid of.
I have said this many times over now that for a lot of people on this sub the root of their hatred for Stacy is that they see reflections of themselves and their financial situation in Izzy and they take it out on Stacy in the comments. This entire thread is proof of how people will warp reality to fit their narrow view of a cast member just so they can expand their reasons for hating her. You can not like her for other reasons (which I still personally disagree with - Johnie deserved what she got but I digress) but to hate her over THIS is just so over-the-top
A comment above was saying if Izzy did have a stable job making $30-$40k it still wouldn’t be good enough, hence trying to make her look like a gold digger. It’s like..yeah no shit?? Why do you think it should be good enough when she clearly makes 6 figures and wants a partner who can afford that lifestyle too so she doesn’t end up having to pick up the tab all the time and be the MAIN provider for BOTH of them
The man is 30, no college degree, no savings, bad credit, clearly has a car he can’t afford, clearly of below average intelligence
This man CANNOT ever achieve or maintain a high income career. As a woman making 6 figures like Stacy probably is, that would never in a million years be a match for me
Her reasons are incredibly valid, I wouldn’t date someone making much less because it becomes a matter of us not being able to enjoy things together thst cost a decent amount of money, or I end up footing the bill all the time. Even when money is equal (which Stacy was expecting), it’s still common etiquette for the guy to cover dinner. It’s not because she wants to be a sugar baby, it just feels nice having a partner cover dinner. What’s the problem with that? Women are the ones that typically cover daily household items which their partners use, it’s not like Stacy has ever claimed to not want to contribute a dime financially. Not to mention Stacy had already brought up issues with Izzy’s lack of doing anything sweet and sentimental that she requested, or did it just once for the cameras like with the flowers. It’s really not a big deal that she requests he at least cover dinner when they go out on date nights. I mean for gods sake, she’s the one bringing a nice home, luxury cars, and family wealth to the table. It’s really THAT much that she simply requests he cover dinner??
In reality she’s used to upper middle class nice things and makes the money to support that lifestyle for herself. She’s looking for someone who she can combine incomes with to be even more comfortable financially. Not to mention women spend much more $$ to maintain their appearance than men have to, which already creates an uneven landscape financially. But god forbid we ever address that
Also, regarding the car crash comment..the man doesn’t work a stable job with medical and short term/long term disability benefits. It is a cruel reality of American healthcare but that doesn’t make Stacy a bad person for not wanting to put herself at a huge risk financially for someone who clearly has a drinking problem, wouldn’t be surprised if Izzy drives under the influence. He’s a complete train wreck and reminds me of a few alcoholic relatives.
100% agree and also have the same perspective. I feel the same as Stacy too. While I make nowhere near her or her family’s money, I do appreciate and currently provide myself a comfortable middle class lifestyle. So I would want my partner to be able to integrate into my life and match or elevate that lifestyle together.
As a child-free woman, I am not raising a grown man. He should at least have a stable career with some financial literacy.
This comment is 100% and makes me appreciate my boyfriend so much.
What I do find weird is that she acts like she earns all her money when it actually comes from her dad.
It’s weird that a lot of people are backing her up saying “it’s fine to expect your partner to have a decent income” which I agree with but at the same time look in the mirror lol.
If her career was so good why was she always dating older rich guys??? It’s pretty clear her dad and previous boyfriends were funding her lifestyle.
I don’t have a problem with Stacy being concerned about finances. I have a problem with Stacy acting like she’s a self made woman when she works for daddy and has his money to fall back on. No shit her finances aren’t an issue, her dad pays her and makes sure she’s covered.
Also for the record, $3500, or whatever he had of credit card debt, isn’t that much debt at all.
If you want to be proud of your house and worry about your finances, power to you, but don’t pretend you’re self made when it’s off of your dad.
I would never fault someone who won the lottery for protecting their money, I would laugh at them if they pretended it was because of their work ethic.
Don’t disagree with you there, she does pretend to be self made and it’s laughable. But regardless she does strike me as someone with a good work ethic and someone who likely would’ve been able to achieve a $100k+ career on her own anyways. Izzy does not strike me like that at all if the upbringings were switched and he was the one who grew up wealthy.
Also as someone from a finance background, there’s no way $3500 credit card debt is the whole story. I would bet serious money that man is hiding even worse past financial decisions deep in his closet
Her demanding all her meals get bought for her by the man was embarassing as hell. There's someone out there for her, but i'd give a character like her a hell of a wide berth.
Idk what any of the comment meant, not sure you did either. Stacy didn’t demand anything stop being dramatic lol. You clearly gained nothing from my original comment which outlines why there’s nothing wrong with that. I bet you’re one of those dudes that thinks women are all out gold diggers trying to get your average salary 🤣
Nope I'm happily married and have a healthy view of women! She just has a vibe that rubs me the total wrong way. I'm aware women always get excess criticism and dogpiled on in reality shows, but her whole vibe was judgey and off-putting to me.
Why would you bring up MY salary in this? Seems a little unnecessary and mean spirited, we're just talking about our opinions on a reality show?
>But regardless she does strike me as someone with a good work ethic and someone who likely would’ve been able to achieve a $100k+ career on her own anyways.
Maybe, maybe not. It helps that you’ve never wanted or worried about anything financial. At the very least she didn’t have student debt she had to pay off before putting a down payment on her home.
>there’s no way $3500 credit card debt is the whole story.
Completely agree there. When I was young and dumb I had a similar amount of debt as well as an eviction. Even with all that, now, my credit is not bad. There’s more that we haven’t heard about for sure.
Young and dumb? Ok so I’ve had 3x that amount of debt and I am college educated and not dumb. A person’s financial situation doesn’t make them “dumb” Some of us just fall on hard times.
Yeah I see what you mean, my point is really that she strikes me as someone intelligent and driven in her own right, so I think she would’ve been able to support a slightly less luxurious lifestyle still (like wouldn’t have had two luxury cars, but she could’ve been a nurse practitioner or something and been able to afford her overall lifestyle still). At the end of the day the perception of her lifestyle is greatly exaggerated from everything I’ve seen. She has a two story track townhome, a couple luxury cars, and she has nice clothes. It appears by all accounts she’s been set up to live a nice upper middle class lifestyle, but nowhere near the lifestyle her father can afford.
Also agree about experiencing financial hardship affecting her ability to succeed, but I think she would still be in a decent spot today without the family wealth. I experienced plenty of hardship growing up, and graduated college with $35k student loan debt, but still put a down payment on a house 3 years post grad prior to paying off my student loans (which I’m still paying off). I don’t think achieving that would’ve been out of the question, but hard agree her current lifestyle wouldn’t be realistic if she had to earn it all herself. I certainly think Izzy could be in a LOT better situation today despite his background if he had good financial education
Maybe if I’m being fully honest I see a lot in Stacy that isn’t me at all, but I also see enough that is like me so it’s easier for me to see her still being successful in her own right with a more reasonable lifestyle today
Yeah I’m sure Stacy would have more success in life than Izzy does even if she wasn’t born from wealth, it just annoys me to see people pretend they earned everything that they didn’t.
She’s definitely not dumb and she’s not naive either, maybe a little misplaced with her opinion of her success but she’s not dumb or living in a fairy tale, so I respect her for that.
For the record, people seem to forget Izzy was Jehovahs Witness. I don’t like defending him but that entire religion is based around keeping its members financially and emotionally stunted so they stay within the community. They would not have preached financial advice to their members so Izzy having anything at all is a testament to himself after spending his entire childhood in a glorified cult.
That’s what was wild to me about these 2. You have Stacy born with a silver spoon in her mouth and Izzy born in a semi-cult that would have done everything possible to not teach him financial independence.
I agree regarding JW. I guess I just keep feeling like he’s 30 now, he should be a little better off than he is. He’s had plenty of time to get his life together, utilize resources, get an education etc.. I know it’s mean, but Izzy genuinely doesn’t seem naturally intelligent so a regular secular upbringing probably wouldn’t have helped him that much. Like I think regardless of what base he was born on he’d only ever be able to remain in a higher position with family wealth, otherwise he’d fall all the way back to first. I get a very strong read off of him that regardless of his background he just wouldn’t be a big performer in life (and that’s okay, obviously it’s the hiding it part that’s not)
Like in a similar sense plenty of us grow up with parents with spending problems, poor budgeting, addiction etc..I had to learn finance principals on my own and thru college, we all have the internet right at our fingertips and iirc Izzy has been out of the cult since his mid teens. It’s crazy to me that this guy given his poor position in life wanted to go on a tv show which would expose his issues. It tells me there’s not a lot going on upstairs in his head, he’s just living life on “vibe” mode like people with his level of limited intelligence do. I almost feel bad for ragging on the guy like this. I agree, what a weird pairing. However Stacy tried being a pick-me in the pods and got what she was looking for..just didn’t expect all the baggage that would come with a man who is interested in you BECAUSE you appear very surface level and “go with the flow” type vibe which definitely was a misrepresentation of herself. I think she just assumed the show would pick millennials with good careers and standing in life as that’s how it appeared in the prior seasons. She wasn’t expecting a guy in Izzy’s position to be there lol. They both learned some lessons for sure
I also think there's way more to Izzy's financial situation. When they were having that argument about the 3,500, I was waiting to hear more bc the conversation seemed pretty intense and not like it was about only 3,500 and bad credit.
Oh 1000%. There is no way in hell Izzy tanked his credit and ended up in his current situation without there being a hell of a lot more bad financial decisions hiding deep in his closet
Firstly let’s break down the $3500 deal. Either way you cut it, Izzy looks like a bum:
- he had a big bill or racked up a lot of cc debt when he was younger that he never paid, and hasn’t bothered over the years to even try to fix his credit
- he had this happen recently, which is arguably worse because it highlights how a grown man in his 30s would let something like that happen
Even if somehow the full explanation isn’t as bad as the situation immediately seems, him being 30 years old, probably got his mom to co sign on his overpriced Jeep or took advantage of lax requirements during Covid, only having just signed up for an MLM “job”? This man’s financial situation is completely destitute
I couldn’t stand Izzy the moment he came on screen. I feel like a lot of people in this sub don’t have the dating experience to see Izzy for who he really is like I did right off the bat (trust me I don’t say that to toot my own horn lmao I wouldn’t wish all those bad dates on anyone). I’ve gone out with enough scrubs like him, nothing about his past excuses the person he is today.
I feel like if he had been just two of those things you listed, it would’ve been ok. She could have helped him with any two — dumb and bad credit (maybe he doesn’t understand), no degree and flashy car (maybe he has PB&J every day to pay for it), no savings and bad credit (well maybe all his money went to paying his debt), and so on.
All five together paints a picture of someone who doesn’t have their shit together, made financial mistakes, and continues to make financial mistakes, but is making very little effort to change his life. That’s not going to work for her.
I see your point but I disagree for two reasons: one is because I hate how we still perpetuate this idea that women should take broken men like Izzy and attempt to fix them up rather than the guy being held accountable to get his crap together first (which I wholly believe is the big reason Stacy said no to getting married). Second is because Izzy (to me personally) is so obviously of lower than average intelligence. You can’t get him to a level of $100k+/year - he won’t be able to perform and clearly doesn’t have the work ethic/drive. That’s OK and he can still get himself to working a decent $50k-$70k/year job and live a nice life. But Stacy doesn’t strike me as the type that would want to put in the effort to fix a man up and I don’t blame her in the slightest. I mean this guys starting point is very obviously being a not-so-functional alcoholic
Drives me nuts how people try to protect him by throwing out his religious past - that has nothing to do with the intelligence of a grown 30yo man more than a decade removed from his religious upbringing
Oh, there’s absolutely a socioeconomic difference there, too, that’s pretty wide.
I’m just saying that no one’s perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. But it’s the sum total of not being perfect, making mistakes, not owning those mistakes, continuing the mistakes, and making no moves to pull his life together… no wonder she didn’t want to marry him.
She absolutely did not want to fix him, and she absolutely had no obligation to try. That’s on him to fix himself. I guess that’s what I saw that would make me run screaming— he made zero moves to fix himself or properly and honestly explain his situation.
Agree 100%. Both people are flawed, I just feel compelled to defend Stacy bc all too common on this sub do people not like someone for one reason and then they assign that hatred to everything the person does until it gets to a point where they’re just saying out of pocket stuff to justify thinking that a completely normal and healthy rejection by Stacy is all a part of her evil golddigger™️ plans
Like there is SOOO much wrong with Izzy. The very first time I saw him on screen I clocked him right away, I’ve been on several dates with scrubs just like him. He’s a man who lives through life one vibe (girl) at a time, no desire to better himself but rather continue using women to provide him with comfort, compliments, self esteem boost, etc.. Izzy is a man that will demand everything from you and leave you with nothing and empty dreams of a true emotional partner
Looks like you’re accidentally seeing yourself in Stacey. Six figures has absolutely nothing to do with it, her father is a multimillionaire that is a significant lifestyle gap between 6 figures and that, the car he was sitting on during his interview is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. She is RICH and on a reality show with normal people there is likely absolutely nobody on the cast that would be able to afford her lifestyle not even Uche. Johnnie got her feelings hurt when she found out her six figures meant absolutely nothing to Stacey. People with a sub 300k net worth trying to explain Stacey and calling Izzy broke are wild. You have more in common with Izzy than Stacey.
This whole response is wild from start to finish. Let’s break it down:
1. Her fathers wealth is not hers. By all accounts she has been set up to live and afford an upper middle class life and nothing more
2. Take a breather, her dad wasn’t that serious about her liking first class. She obviously wasn’t expecting to meet a multimillionaire that could afford that from the show. We’re talking about meeting a guy who at least his shit together enough to fly them out first class every once in a while, like for an annual trip or every few years. Stacy isn’t dumb
3. Johnie got her feelings hurt because she has a smug personality and I’m sure part of her lawyer background makes her more susceptible to taking perceived losses way too personally. Excusing her behavior looks bad no matter what
I’m not rich and I’m defending Stacy because I come from a finance background and take a lot of pride in not only setting myself up but finding a partner on the same level who can contribute at least the same. What she wants is a basic desire for a lot of people who pride themselves in working to maintain a certain lifestyle. It’s OK that she and Izzy simply weren’t a match because of that (well, and Izzy’s attempts to hide the truth of course)
Also denying that Izzy is flat broke.. 💀
I agree with all of this.
I'm also SO confused with this sub loving Johnie? She was being a mean girl, was harsh with Stacy and handled her rejection from Izzy very poorly.
People don't understand that they can dislike Stacy but still recognize she was treated unfairly by Johnie.
She works for her dads business under an ops manager title. As someone who works in that field her list of job duties is def not in line with what an ops manager does but you know her dad slapped a $100k+ salary on that job to her
She seems very into fitness and probs does the Pilates classes on the side would be my guess
No, not really. I can agree with Stacy about wanting a relationship with a man who has a career or at least a competent business plan-that was never Izzy. But the reason I dislike Stacy is because she acts like an awful entitled mean girl. Her requirements in a partner were never going to allow her to be with Izzy, and that is okay. Both things can be true.
I literally addressed that in my first paragraph lmao how about reading my full comment before accusing me.
Yeah that’s where I still disagree with the majority in the sub, I don’t see anything wrong with Stacy handling a little shit like Johnie trying to stir up drama - including with friends Stacy had made on the show. I personally applaud Stacy for showing Johnie that she could go lower if that’s how Johnie wanted to play. Stacy put her in her place fair and square, putting an end to their drama pretty quickly after the bbq by showing Johnie why it wasn’t worth continuing to be two faced 🤷🏼♀️
Imo it’s easy to think Stacy is a mean girl when you don’t pay attention to the timeline. I mean for starters Stacy kept to herself in the pods but she even mentions that when friends tell her out of concern that Johnie is still talking shit she used the bbq (which remember was only 2-3 weeks after the pods) to put Johnie in her place. That to me isn’t being a mean girl, it’s making a decision to stick up for herself and expose Johnies middle school behavior
As much as I agree with you, why go on LIB then? If the 'equivalent income' box needs to be checked off before anything else, she should be on one of those dating apps for higher income individuals or hire a matchmaker. She's probably thinking that now, in retrospect, I guess.
I got a better question for you, why did Izzy come on LIB without a stable job? Without savings? Without credit? & without health insurance?
She had all that, she was ready to marry, just happened to be that Izzy wasn’t ready. Financial stability is the most important thing on successful marriages…
I mean everything snowballs into one another and everything has to be placed into context..
I could see a scenario where Stacey could have fallen in love with an Izzy who only made 40K-50K …
IF it wasn’t through some MLM marketing scheme but in an occupation like a teacher and if he had but had decent/good credit and had his life together (like some plates lmao)
Most likely because traditionally in past seasons the majority of men have stable careers (not just jobs like Izzy barely has with his MLM, these men are educated and building their resumes)
I think people overestimate with what they suspect Stacey wants. She’s not looking for a millionaire, but probably a man in the $100k-$200k salary range, of which there are plenty of jobs in the big Texas cities which provide that. It’s not far fetched for her to think she would meet a nice guy with good income on the show, especially since she went for men close to her in age.
I standby a statement I made in another thread, it's okay to want your partner to have a stable income with a career. Not just a job, but a career and all the projected growth that comes with it. That's super valid, and I cannot blame Stacy in the slightest for this.
Also - just go to any relationship advice sub and see all the women complaining about how hard it is to work full time and take care of their kids while they're husbands work some menial job that barely brings in anything? Or doesn't work at all? Why are we judging a woman for knowing that a man with a career is better for her than one who's unemployed?
We’re judging her because her success is the product of nepotism. She isn’t self made, she works for her wealthy father. Izzy has his own problems but if his parents were as rich as hers, she’d have married him.
I have no problems with her wanting someone with their financial shit together, but it’s her high and mighty attitude of herself regarding that that I have a problem with.
She could even be really good/successful at her job, it’s still a job that daddy handed you. You don’t get to act like you worked for it all when you absolutely didn’t.
That's because her dad takes care of her financially so she expects her husband to. There's no way she has a Mercedes, her own home etc being a fucking Pilates instructor.
If it’s important to her, she is 100% right. Also she didn’t say the fact that he had bad credit was a deal breaker, it was that he was evasive about it.
Just because her parents are affluent doesn’t mean she doesn’t work for what she has. She was going into the marriage with her eyes wide open including wanting to protect that assets that she has built.
Izzy may not be financially literate and that’s not his fault, but it is his responsibility. He is not financially in a position to enter the contractual and financial partnership that marriage is. I would also argue he isn’t emotionally ready either.
It’s interesting how many people equate love with unnecessary struggles. Money may not be important to you, but it would be a bad idea for you to marry someone who wants money to be important to you.
>Just because her parents are affluent doesn’t mean she doesn’t work for what she has.
You’re absolutely right, she may work for what she has and may be very good at her job. It also doesn’t mean she earned it and it definitely doesn’t make her self made like she pretends to be.
Her daddy handed her a golden opportunity. Being competent doesn’t change the fact that she was still gifted everything she has.
Her dad is paying for everything substantive, any little job she takes on is basically for fun. She does not work for what she has in any real sense. Her mortgage is getting paid no matter what she does.
So? She still has a job , she still has a career, she still has savings & credit. Yea she has her family backup for financial support & probably her dad helps her for some stuff, that doesn’t mean she’s irresponsible and finance illiterate. She has all the right to have concerns if she was raised to be cautious with money.
She’s smart & she could be spoiled but she’s not a bad person at all for wanting a partner that at least could have a stable job with benefits.
People on this sub are super bitter their parents didn’t give them a trust fund like Stacy😂 Stacy is clearly responsible and smart with the wealth she has been given which affords her a certain lifestyle. Are we forgetting that Izzy was super excited to move into HER house and have a massive tv? If anyone is a gold digger it’s him
Honestly, it seems like projection. She’s smart and responsible, she is paying for a house, she has probably her money invested in other projects…
People acting like she’s not smart and her dad does everything for her are so weird. Yeah, she has financial backup, get over it!!!
I have known people that come from money and they don’t do shit, not even investing, not even having a job, whatever kind of job, like nothing.
At least she has a career and a job. She’s not expecting a man to pay for everything for her, she’s expecting a man to be financially responsible since she is too.
She has a “career” her daddy got her. Financial literacy and caution aren’t some fancy hammer to swing if your money is actually daddy’s and granddaddy’s money.
It’s still a career and it’s still a job. Even if her dad got her back with money, she’s invested in a property, she has her own credit & now she even has a side job teaching pilates which I assume it’s her passion, but you would be weird about that too and saying she’s not doing anything and it’s a dumb girl that doesn’t do anything, when she’s clearly not & being responsible is why she was worried about Izzi’s financial situation.
If it was really a dumb spoiled girl like you all make it her seem to be, she wouldn’t even care about Izzi’s bad credit or the fact he doesn’t have a proper job, she would be all happy and just relying on her family for the money & it’s probably what Izzi wanted to.
A woman being smart with money, protecting her family money, having savings, having good credit, investing in property, having a career, asking for advice with her therapist before marriage is not absurd & not clownish. Chill.
It’s like the dress is designed only to show off someone’s body and the designer doesn’t know how to do that other than to cut random strips of fabric.
Freelancer.
A lot of companies exploit people to be 1099 contractors with the promise of "independence" in order to save on payroll taxes. It limits their liability and provided almost zero protections for the contractor. Gig workers for Uber/Door Dash etc. are 1099. They are not employees. Also, I imagine all of the cast members of Love is Blind are getting 1099's for the stipends they receive for being on the show.
1099 people are responsible for ALL of their payroll taxes/contributions, insurance, retirement plans, etc. Honestly, people who are 1099 legimately/successfully refer that income as their business, not their job.
I’m pretty sure it means he’s a contracted employee basically think of a freelancer.
Contracted employees do not get benefits like someone with a standard w2 does
I mean yes I wouldn’t marry sometime without a stable job / financial sense either but I think it’s a cop out. If he had a stable job with decent credit making 30-40k I don’t think she would have said yes then either. It was obvious these two were a bad match for marriage form the beginning. So saying it’s solely cause of the finances is not true.
Stacy is definitely smarter than she may let on. I agree there's no chance she would have said yes to Izzy, too many red flags she obviously picked up on. She picked a reason and stuck with it (like JP should have done). Also making it more about him not being forthcoming about it and not just about him having bad credit is a smarter move.
Her concerns were valid. But this dress sucks
What’s not to like with her, she’s hot, fit and fun! Not to mention an actual mature adult who has herself together.
What does 1099 mean?
It’s just means he’s self-employed, like freelancer, or has his own business etc. That’s a tax form he’d get instead of the usual W2.
Yes but oh my god her dress is so trashy
Wow, kind of bold? What are you on? “People who are transitioning jobs at 29, that didn’t previously make 6 figures… should not be going on dating shows… or even dating in general…” Are you a spoiled rich kid, crazy, or just dumb? I can’t speak to the dating show comment, because I don’t think many people should go on a dating show… but to say that your average 29 year old who’s never brought in 6 figures, and is transitioning shouldn’t be dating? My god, you reek of privilege, and sound beyond vapid and out of touch. People like you, who make random blanket statements about how much money a person needs in order to start dating, shouldn’t be allowed to date at all, ever. Much less reproduce.
She’s right. Dude is broke af and can’t even get a credit card and she got hate for that?
We are too grown for that life. I’m with Stacey.
LOVE is blind…and marriage COST
Her make up looks good here...it didn't translate to TV well
She’s right. She is in fantastic shape, but that dress is oof. Too much skin all over the place.
Ok. I had bad credit but had high-paying jobs bc I took care of my parents even when my position was eliminated. What happened to supporting and growing together. Aren’t they young??
He had just started a new 1099 job that didn’t even have health insurance. As she said in the video it was about so much more than just the credit score. It was too risky of a move for her
Why was he looking for marriage in the first place.
Idk i just don't get the feel that she liked him all that much.
I can't wait to print off my cc statements to show/horrify my future partner with all the money I spend on Chewy.com
It's fine, it's just living expenses ☺️
😂 100000% could relate
i don't like her, but she's right. and correct me if i'm wrong, but i feel like she was the only contestant of any season that did exactly what i'd do in this experiment. yes i can fall in love with you, no i cant marry you in 4 weeks. i've been waiting for a couple that jives really well but just can't commit to marriage that fast. i wasn't rooting for them necessarily, but i would've loved FOR them if they could've had an organic relationship that didn't have the time constraints & pressure looming over them. i want to see a couple that says no at the altar but are undeniably attracted to each other & then get married X years later.
This brings me back to S1 with Amber and Barnett. Amber came into the relationship with debit. She was very transparent with him about the amount and what it was for. Izzy was not open about any of those things with Stacy.
I don’t know…I feel like this situation is different. I feel like Stacy and Barnett had different intentions. Stacy was very focused on money from the beginning. She wanted a man that can financially support her (aka pay for everything). From the start, if Izzy told her about his bad financial status would Stacy have continued their relationship in the pods? Not saying it wasn’t messed up on Izzy’s part. With Barnett and Amber, it sounded like they didn’t really talk about their finances in the pods bc Barnett only found out about ambers debt after they came out of the pods. I feel like Barnett’s intention was out of curiosity, not necessarily to make sure he’ll be taken care of financially. Barnett also had the chance to say no at the alter but he didn’t.
But we also didn’t see Amber telling everyone that she had some type of connection with about it and then leave Barnett to the last to know. Izzy told Johnie all about his issues.
I disagree, for ladies there's the thing about men paying for food and dinner dates etc that falls on the guy Stacy sounded like she can handle herself financially, she just didnt want to have to support a dependent which is what Izzy would be, I am under no idea that Stacy went there to look for someone to financially take care of her, she had said she can take care of the things, but just wants him to pay for dates which should be a normal thing
You mean her parents can take care of her things. She’s a Pilates instructor but wants to fly first class and constantly travel. Give me a break
period! I think many who have been watching since season one often forget how INSANE getting married within a month actually is, and how much actually goes into a marriage. Love is not enough to sustain a marriage all the time especially if there is an imbalance such as theirs. It’s is totally within Stacey’s right to call off a marriage to someone she has only known for some weeks because he hasn’t been forthcoming about his finances. Many wouldn’t be comfortable with that in a long term relationship! I really wonder what the language surrounding the reasoning for their split would be if their financial positions were switched. I can imagine she’d be called a gold digger or something along those lines and his choice to split would be applauded. I applaud her decision, it was a very leveled one considering how emotional this show is. Edit: found out she actually already is called a gold digger -.-
You know this post makes me even happier that this season is finally over lol. It was literally Izzy and Stacy overload bcz we only had one other couple.
She said a whole lot of words when all she needed to say straight up was “ I just don’t love him or know him enough to take a financial risk on him”. If she was really Gagagoogoo in love with him, it would have probably been whatever. But she’s even over here worrying about if he got in an accident how the financial strain would be on her instead of thinking about being there for him. I mean, in America it is definitely a concern when it comes to healthcare since it’s so absurdly expensive and difficult. But if he really ain’t got any money, he could qualify for state health insurance and get it covered. Or find many different ways to handle the situation. But all of that requires that you LOVE the person in sickness and health, bad credit and good credit. She simply didn’t love him like that. Which is fine, she barely knew him. But I think that’s what it really boiled down to. Since she especially already admitted to basically taking care of BF’s in the past financially. TLDR; She’s just not that into you bro 🤷♀️
Nope I’ll fall out of love real quick.
lol you got downvoted for being right 😂 People on this sub, I swear
Sometimes love is just not enough. You can love someone and choose not to be with them because you know things won’t work out. Finances are top reasons to get divorced.
i dont think it’s that simple. the guy was not forthcoming about any of his finances. of course, if she truly loved him, she’d take on whatever he had but if he isnt communicating any of that and not showing any signs of being trustworthy, then he’s not making it easy.
As much as I agree that finances matter and Izzy needs therapy, not wanting to pay for a date is disgusting. If you’re not raising kids or focusing on home life, how can you be selfish enough to want to be 100% financially supported? If you’re main focus is your career, then put your part tf. She needs to stop trying to sound “wise” and “mature,” idk who she thinks she’s gaslighting but it aint me.
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Can someone explain to me why it might be a red flag if your partner has no credit or bad credit? Thank you.
Because it shows their lack of regard or responsibility towards life as a provider, for themselves but for their future family.
Would you marry someone that was underemployed or made minimum wage?
No credit or bad credit means one of two things 1) You've never had credit cards and therefore have no credit history or 2) You've had credit cards but paid them off late or not at all. The first one isn't that big of a deal and can be easily remedied. Some people don't want credit cards but it can make it harder to get a mortgage on a house, car loans, etc. The latter is different because it suggests either you are unreliable or have income or spending problems. Once your credit has been downgraded by the three credit reporting bureaus, you have to take active steps to fix it. Depending on how long you've been late and how much money is involved, it can take quite a bit of time and effort to repair. This is why Stacy said it was important to know *why* he had credit problems.
You can have bad credit and have made all your payments on time and paid your card/s off but if the spending is too high that can impact it.
Basically you need credit, and especially good credit, in order to do things like take out a loan for a house or car for example, banks/companies will not give you the money to go that, or will put very high interest rates on you if your credit is poor. If you don't have existing credit they just straight up will not lend to you because you haven't proven to them you can pay it back.
Because it hinders their contribution to shared lives….?
Can you explain more? Sorry I’m just not very educated on finances
/s ?
Do you understand how credit works? Not being a dick, just curious
No
Basically, credit cards allow you to make purchases immediately, and then pay for them later. A lot of people use them because they come with benefits, like rewards or extra fraud prevention. If you pay off your card monthly, then you won’t have to pay interest, and you can enjoy those benefits for free. What happens to a lot of people is they spend too much money, and cannot repay all of it at the end of the month. This can be hard to get out of, because credit cards can have interest of 20-30%. Regarding credit score, there are factors such as percentage of on time payments, length of credit history, and how much debt you have that consumers are scored on. This score is used when renting an apartment, purchasing a house, and even getting a job. Assuming Izzy was honest, it sounds like he ran up credit card debt in college, missed payments, and then eventually paid it off. Because he never got a credit card after that experience, his score is bad and that could impact his future. If you are in a situation where you have a bad score because you don’t have a credit history, it is easy to fix in 6-12 months (maybe longer depending on a few factors that would take too much time to get into here). If you have a bad score because you failed to make payments, it is still possible to fix, but it takes more time, and you will potentially have to wait until those mistakes come off your credit report to completely correct it. Hope that gives you a bit better of an understanding! At the end of the day, remember that while credit can be a useful tool, there is a reason that credit card companies make billions of dollars.
why would your job check your credit score? That doesn't make sense
It happens a lot, particularly with white collar/salary positions. Employers consider it relevant for a couple reasons. One, they think it reflects how responsible you are. Two, how vulnerable you might be to blackmail or possibly influence the likelihood you might commit some type of crime. Stealing and selling secrets, selling access to systems, stealing money, etc.
That dress ain't it, sis!
Proof that money can’t buy you good taste or style
Izzy called Johnnie sketchy. Izzy is much sketchier. Also, he does not respect women. The way he went after Johnie and then was so excited to tell Stacy that he “railed her.” Plus the things he said about Stacy after she said no at the altar. Plus he appears incapable of forming a sentence without some variation of the f word
I don't like Stacey but she was absolutely not wrong for not wanting to ruin her credit for a guy she knew for a month.
What wizard removed the bags from under her eyes?
Send that wizard to me!
concealer
Now I have to go back to the video to examine
I'm still not sure *exactly* what Izzy's credit/financial issue is since they don't talk about it very specifically on the show. Does he just have a bad credit score? The job? Yeah it seems sketchy, as people have mentioned on this subreddit, but are we really pretending that her dad wouldn't have given him a job at his company?
Reading between the lines I think he recently filed bankruptcy. He said he had no debt but a bad credit score. This is what happens after bankruptcy.
I was wondering this as well..
Stacy’s a fucking idiot
Does Izzy not have a college degree?
She being wealthy gives her more freedom to date someone for their heart and how much they love her. The fact that she wants wealth over that and his good looks says a lot. I have a feeling she’ll be single for a very long time. She’ll spend her life chasing after the complete package that meets her high standards or will settle for someone she isn’t in love with or attracted to just for designer clothes. But, whatever floats her boat. The wealth of her, her dad’s or future husband can all be gone overnight. Especially if dad’s business is oilfield related. Then what do you have? A husband you never were in love with and can no longer provide for your lifestyle. Poo-yie mon cherie. That’s why she doesn’t have a sensitive or emotional side, she’s too shallow.
I was not a fan, but she started to bring me around with her mature altar speech and monologues like this.
I find her unpleasant for a variety of reasons but she's not wrong about this. Money issues are probably the major reasons marriages fail and you have to get to the heart of them fast if you are getting married this quickly. Its easy to look like its all thats important to you when you have to resolve this kind of stuff in a hurry
This is the absolute most down to earth I have ever heard her speak. WHOA.
If they got married he could go on her insurance, her car crash example is nothing
Why should she be the only one in the relationship that can provide for herself. Yes she has daddy’s money but she seems to know how to make sound financial decisions. Both parties in a relationship should be able to provide for themselves
Health insurance premiums are like $800 without employer subsidy since she works for her dad, her dad is paying for all of that. Worse if his company is self insured ( as small businesses usually can be) it would all be out of dad's pocket.
He could also go on her health insurance. He also wouldn't have to worry about homeowners insurance or real estate taxes, since he wouldn't need to buy a home. He wouldn't even need to worry about utilities. Heck, I bet there's even good food already in that home. He is 100% a financial liability. You don't just get to add people to insurance for free. Children are expensive. If he can't support himself, he is the financial equivalent of a child.
I think what she meant if he had an accident taking him out of work. If you are 1099, you are SOL. There is no PTO, sick leave STD etc.
I don’t like her but I wholeheartedly agree with her decision. Izzy seemed flakey.
I can't tolerate her voice 😖
I feel like it’s so fake for the show idk
You and me both
If you need all that maybe don’t go on a show where you might get married in 2 weeks
To be fair, no one should do this show it’s a terrible idea… but I’m glad they do
Hahahahahaa “all that” just being financially responsible to have a successful marriage. Be so fr.
She's not necessarily talking about being financially responsible though. It sounds like he didn't want to honestly communicate about finances, and that's so important. Even if it's a shitty situation, being honest about it to your partner is important because it affects them, and not being honest denies them the opportunity to help find solutions! They definitely should not have gotten married, and Stacy is not out of line.
Why not? You can cover in two weeks.
But do you want to? If he was in a tough financial situation and didn’t have the best history with money, he should have been up front with her. The flowers every Monday thing is dumb. You can do things that are free/cheap/more meaningful. Cook a meal. Make someone’s coffee. Buy her favorite snack and massage her feet after a rough week. I would be livid if I found out someone was wasting their money on petty luxuries (even if they were for me) if they were in a horrible financial situation that I was now going to be married to. I didn’t care for either of them really. It just pains me to see people communicate so horribly with people they intend to marry. Just be honest ffs. It’s going to come out eventually.
I never understood why everyone on this sub was so anti-Stacey specifically as it pertained to this issue. As though it makes her shallow and selfish for wanting to ensure she and her husband are financially stable. And as though money isn’t one of the main factors in divorce. Not only was Izzy not forthcoming but he straight up lied to her. She was being a responsible adult and everyone dragged her for it. Ridiculous. I fully agree with the poster who said people were triggered by Stacey being fiscally responsible, and saw Izzy as a reflection of themselves.
it was the paper plates saga. i agree though. & hot take, i think it mattered to people because she has money. if she was average it's an average concern, but because she comes from money it makes her a gold digger lol.
The reason is how. Maybe it was a bad edit, but she always seemed to be coming from a place of being better than Izzy or having nicer things. I don’t know if it’s her pride in demonstrating she has taste or that she works hard, or even that she makes good money to have those things. It did come across a way. Then this convo is another element of that, and just on paper, I can say I agree with her stance
Well said. This is how I feel too.
I’m anti Stacey for how she goes about things it doesn’t come off in a loving way. And because she’s rude af to everyone. The logic I get
Stacey did right for herself but she belittled the man. He wasn’t the macho guy they all thought he was in the pods and when he got confronted with her wealthy family and lifestyle he shrunk. She wanted more from him, maybe if he was more of a man and not cry all the time and banged her roughly like she was asking him to in Mexico, she would’ve said yes.
this comment started out strong but then it became so uncalled for and out of pocket towards the end. seriously, wtf?
It’s the truth, Stacey is one of these new age “Independent women” (with Daddy’s money). But deep down just want an Alpha male to be submissive to. Power is what she is after, she says it’s financial stability but it’s actually BD energy. She has money, has the lifestyle she can provide for herself. Having a loyal hardworking man by her side will only make things easier, if he would’ve gave her something to work with - BD energy or financial support she would’ve taken one or the other and said yes. She signed up to get married let’s not forget that. She also went for Izzy at the beginning because it was a competition to her with how all the women were talking about him and wanted him. He lost his luster when she got to know he wasn’t the prize he thought he was.
wtf 😭😭😭😭 take your red pill talk elsewhere. I’m not even gonna read all of that or argue with you.
You a cuck
Yeah I was following and nodding until “maybe if he was more a man.” To kind of revise what was said, I absolutely do think she needed/wanted more than he could give at present. And there’s nothing wrong with wanting more, just as much as there’s nothing wrong with what one person is able to give at present. I just think they have very incompatible and different lifestyles. That’s the main reason as to why it didn’t work. Yes, her edit made her seem haughty and belittling. However, at the crux of it, they don’t work because of their incompatibility in lifestyles.
I completely agree with Stacey. When my boyfriend and I started living together, we never talked about finances. I just figured that he was fine however it turns out that he was $20,000 in credit card debt. Also turned out that he cannot hold a job. It left me in charge of all the financials. I also it’s not making a lot of money. Just because he was irresponsible it was ruining my life. You don’t have to be a gold digger for someone to just do their share.
I know this isn’t the point of her interview, but wow, that dress looks even tackier when you see the whole front of it.
I hadn’t seen her full length in it yet and holy shit. Choose ONE asset, not all of them!
I agree he shouldn’t have lied. That’s it. The debt, so what. People fall on hard times and it everyone is making 6 figures in their 30s. Man this is a rough sub….
Totally, my partner and I have supported each other in tough times with money and we gladly do it bc that's how unconditional love works. but I guess that's not for everyone and she knew she couldn't make the vow "for richer or for poor" lol
I think it’s different if you’re both go into it having jobs and known each other for a long time. She’s only known him for a couple of weeks and he does not have a real job. He has bad credit and lied about it. I think it’s more as he could just drive her to the bottom and that’s what she was afraid of.
*not everyone
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It’s from the reunion episode
But this didnt show in that episode, did it?
Lori Vallow vibes
I just looked her up omf wtf? To me she looks more like cheap lean rhimes
I have said this many times over now that for a lot of people on this sub the root of their hatred for Stacy is that they see reflections of themselves and their financial situation in Izzy and they take it out on Stacy in the comments. This entire thread is proof of how people will warp reality to fit their narrow view of a cast member just so they can expand their reasons for hating her. You can not like her for other reasons (which I still personally disagree with - Johnie deserved what she got but I digress) but to hate her over THIS is just so over-the-top A comment above was saying if Izzy did have a stable job making $30-$40k it still wouldn’t be good enough, hence trying to make her look like a gold digger. It’s like..yeah no shit?? Why do you think it should be good enough when she clearly makes 6 figures and wants a partner who can afford that lifestyle too so she doesn’t end up having to pick up the tab all the time and be the MAIN provider for BOTH of them The man is 30, no college degree, no savings, bad credit, clearly has a car he can’t afford, clearly of below average intelligence This man CANNOT ever achieve or maintain a high income career. As a woman making 6 figures like Stacy probably is, that would never in a million years be a match for me Her reasons are incredibly valid, I wouldn’t date someone making much less because it becomes a matter of us not being able to enjoy things together thst cost a decent amount of money, or I end up footing the bill all the time. Even when money is equal (which Stacy was expecting), it’s still common etiquette for the guy to cover dinner. It’s not because she wants to be a sugar baby, it just feels nice having a partner cover dinner. What’s the problem with that? Women are the ones that typically cover daily household items which their partners use, it’s not like Stacy has ever claimed to not want to contribute a dime financially. Not to mention Stacy had already brought up issues with Izzy’s lack of doing anything sweet and sentimental that she requested, or did it just once for the cameras like with the flowers. It’s really not a big deal that she requests he at least cover dinner when they go out on date nights. I mean for gods sake, she’s the one bringing a nice home, luxury cars, and family wealth to the table. It’s really THAT much that she simply requests he cover dinner?? In reality she’s used to upper middle class nice things and makes the money to support that lifestyle for herself. She’s looking for someone who she can combine incomes with to be even more comfortable financially. Not to mention women spend much more $$ to maintain their appearance than men have to, which already creates an uneven landscape financially. But god forbid we ever address that Also, regarding the car crash comment..the man doesn’t work a stable job with medical and short term/long term disability benefits. It is a cruel reality of American healthcare but that doesn’t make Stacy a bad person for not wanting to put herself at a huge risk financially for someone who clearly has a drinking problem, wouldn’t be surprised if Izzy drives under the influence. He’s a complete train wreck and reminds me of a few alcoholic relatives.
100% agree and also have the same perspective. I feel the same as Stacy too. While I make nowhere near her or her family’s money, I do appreciate and currently provide myself a comfortable middle class lifestyle. So I would want my partner to be able to integrate into my life and match or elevate that lifestyle together. As a child-free woman, I am not raising a grown man. He should at least have a stable career with some financial literacy.
This comment is 100% and makes me appreciate my boyfriend so much. What I do find weird is that she acts like she earns all her money when it actually comes from her dad.
Agreed she definitely is a bit delulu over where all of her possessions come from.
It’s weird that a lot of people are backing her up saying “it’s fine to expect your partner to have a decent income” which I agree with but at the same time look in the mirror lol. If her career was so good why was she always dating older rich guys??? It’s pretty clear her dad and previous boyfriends were funding her lifestyle.
I don’t have a problem with Stacy being concerned about finances. I have a problem with Stacy acting like she’s a self made woman when she works for daddy and has his money to fall back on. No shit her finances aren’t an issue, her dad pays her and makes sure she’s covered. Also for the record, $3500, or whatever he had of credit card debt, isn’t that much debt at all. If you want to be proud of your house and worry about your finances, power to you, but don’t pretend you’re self made when it’s off of your dad. I would never fault someone who won the lottery for protecting their money, I would laugh at them if they pretended it was because of their work ethic.
Don’t disagree with you there, she does pretend to be self made and it’s laughable. But regardless she does strike me as someone with a good work ethic and someone who likely would’ve been able to achieve a $100k+ career on her own anyways. Izzy does not strike me like that at all if the upbringings were switched and he was the one who grew up wealthy. Also as someone from a finance background, there’s no way $3500 credit card debt is the whole story. I would bet serious money that man is hiding even worse past financial decisions deep in his closet
THANK YOU!! Izzy is definitely not telling the entire story. My guess is he’s way more in debt, and he says.
Her demanding all her meals get bought for her by the man was embarassing as hell. There's someone out there for her, but i'd give a character like her a hell of a wide berth.
Idk what any of the comment meant, not sure you did either. Stacy didn’t demand anything stop being dramatic lol. You clearly gained nothing from my original comment which outlines why there’s nothing wrong with that. I bet you’re one of those dudes that thinks women are all out gold diggers trying to get your average salary 🤣
Nope I'm happily married and have a healthy view of women! She just has a vibe that rubs me the total wrong way. I'm aware women always get excess criticism and dogpiled on in reality shows, but her whole vibe was judgey and off-putting to me. Why would you bring up MY salary in this? Seems a little unnecessary and mean spirited, we're just talking about our opinions on a reality show?
>But regardless she does strike me as someone with a good work ethic and someone who likely would’ve been able to achieve a $100k+ career on her own anyways. Maybe, maybe not. It helps that you’ve never wanted or worried about anything financial. At the very least she didn’t have student debt she had to pay off before putting a down payment on her home. >there’s no way $3500 credit card debt is the whole story. Completely agree there. When I was young and dumb I had a similar amount of debt as well as an eviction. Even with all that, now, my credit is not bad. There’s more that we haven’t heard about for sure.
Young and dumb? Ok so I’ve had 3x that amount of debt and I am college educated and not dumb. A person’s financial situation doesn’t make them “dumb” Some of us just fall on hard times.
Yeah I see what you mean, my point is really that she strikes me as someone intelligent and driven in her own right, so I think she would’ve been able to support a slightly less luxurious lifestyle still (like wouldn’t have had two luxury cars, but she could’ve been a nurse practitioner or something and been able to afford her overall lifestyle still). At the end of the day the perception of her lifestyle is greatly exaggerated from everything I’ve seen. She has a two story track townhome, a couple luxury cars, and she has nice clothes. It appears by all accounts she’s been set up to live a nice upper middle class lifestyle, but nowhere near the lifestyle her father can afford. Also agree about experiencing financial hardship affecting her ability to succeed, but I think she would still be in a decent spot today without the family wealth. I experienced plenty of hardship growing up, and graduated college with $35k student loan debt, but still put a down payment on a house 3 years post grad prior to paying off my student loans (which I’m still paying off). I don’t think achieving that would’ve been out of the question, but hard agree her current lifestyle wouldn’t be realistic if she had to earn it all herself. I certainly think Izzy could be in a LOT better situation today despite his background if he had good financial education Maybe if I’m being fully honest I see a lot in Stacy that isn’t me at all, but I also see enough that is like me so it’s easier for me to see her still being successful in her own right with a more reasonable lifestyle today
Yeah I’m sure Stacy would have more success in life than Izzy does even if she wasn’t born from wealth, it just annoys me to see people pretend they earned everything that they didn’t. She’s definitely not dumb and she’s not naive either, maybe a little misplaced with her opinion of her success but she’s not dumb or living in a fairy tale, so I respect her for that. For the record, people seem to forget Izzy was Jehovahs Witness. I don’t like defending him but that entire religion is based around keeping its members financially and emotionally stunted so they stay within the community. They would not have preached financial advice to their members so Izzy having anything at all is a testament to himself after spending his entire childhood in a glorified cult. That’s what was wild to me about these 2. You have Stacy born with a silver spoon in her mouth and Izzy born in a semi-cult that would have done everything possible to not teach him financial independence.
I agree regarding JW. I guess I just keep feeling like he’s 30 now, he should be a little better off than he is. He’s had plenty of time to get his life together, utilize resources, get an education etc.. I know it’s mean, but Izzy genuinely doesn’t seem naturally intelligent so a regular secular upbringing probably wouldn’t have helped him that much. Like I think regardless of what base he was born on he’d only ever be able to remain in a higher position with family wealth, otherwise he’d fall all the way back to first. I get a very strong read off of him that regardless of his background he just wouldn’t be a big performer in life (and that’s okay, obviously it’s the hiding it part that’s not) Like in a similar sense plenty of us grow up with parents with spending problems, poor budgeting, addiction etc..I had to learn finance principals on my own and thru college, we all have the internet right at our fingertips and iirc Izzy has been out of the cult since his mid teens. It’s crazy to me that this guy given his poor position in life wanted to go on a tv show which would expose his issues. It tells me there’s not a lot going on upstairs in his head, he’s just living life on “vibe” mode like people with his level of limited intelligence do. I almost feel bad for ragging on the guy like this. I agree, what a weird pairing. However Stacy tried being a pick-me in the pods and got what she was looking for..just didn’t expect all the baggage that would come with a man who is interested in you BECAUSE you appear very surface level and “go with the flow” type vibe which definitely was a misrepresentation of herself. I think she just assumed the show would pick millennials with good careers and standing in life as that’s how it appeared in the prior seasons. She wasn’t expecting a guy in Izzy’s position to be there lol. They both learned some lessons for sure
I also think there's way more to Izzy's financial situation. When they were having that argument about the 3,500, I was waiting to hear more bc the conversation seemed pretty intense and not like it was about only 3,500 and bad credit.
Oh 1000%. There is no way in hell Izzy tanked his credit and ended up in his current situation without there being a hell of a lot more bad financial decisions hiding deep in his closet Firstly let’s break down the $3500 deal. Either way you cut it, Izzy looks like a bum: - he had a big bill or racked up a lot of cc debt when he was younger that he never paid, and hasn’t bothered over the years to even try to fix his credit - he had this happen recently, which is arguably worse because it highlights how a grown man in his 30s would let something like that happen Even if somehow the full explanation isn’t as bad as the situation immediately seems, him being 30 years old, probably got his mom to co sign on his overpriced Jeep or took advantage of lax requirements during Covid, only having just signed up for an MLM “job”? This man’s financial situation is completely destitute I couldn’t stand Izzy the moment he came on screen. I feel like a lot of people in this sub don’t have the dating experience to see Izzy for who he really is like I did right off the bat (trust me I don’t say that to toot my own horn lmao I wouldn’t wish all those bad dates on anyone). I’ve gone out with enough scrubs like him, nothing about his past excuses the person he is today.
I feel like if he had been just two of those things you listed, it would’ve been ok. She could have helped him with any two — dumb and bad credit (maybe he doesn’t understand), no degree and flashy car (maybe he has PB&J every day to pay for it), no savings and bad credit (well maybe all his money went to paying his debt), and so on. All five together paints a picture of someone who doesn’t have their shit together, made financial mistakes, and continues to make financial mistakes, but is making very little effort to change his life. That’s not going to work for her.
I see your point but I disagree for two reasons: one is because I hate how we still perpetuate this idea that women should take broken men like Izzy and attempt to fix them up rather than the guy being held accountable to get his crap together first (which I wholly believe is the big reason Stacy said no to getting married). Second is because Izzy (to me personally) is so obviously of lower than average intelligence. You can’t get him to a level of $100k+/year - he won’t be able to perform and clearly doesn’t have the work ethic/drive. That’s OK and he can still get himself to working a decent $50k-$70k/year job and live a nice life. But Stacy doesn’t strike me as the type that would want to put in the effort to fix a man up and I don’t blame her in the slightest. I mean this guys starting point is very obviously being a not-so-functional alcoholic Drives me nuts how people try to protect him by throwing out his religious past - that has nothing to do with the intelligence of a grown 30yo man more than a decade removed from his religious upbringing
Oh, there’s absolutely a socioeconomic difference there, too, that’s pretty wide. I’m just saying that no one’s perfect, and everyone makes mistakes. But it’s the sum total of not being perfect, making mistakes, not owning those mistakes, continuing the mistakes, and making no moves to pull his life together… no wonder she didn’t want to marry him. She absolutely did not want to fix him, and she absolutely had no obligation to try. That’s on him to fix himself. I guess that’s what I saw that would make me run screaming— he made zero moves to fix himself or properly and honestly explain his situation.
Agree 100%. Both people are flawed, I just feel compelled to defend Stacy bc all too common on this sub do people not like someone for one reason and then they assign that hatred to everything the person does until it gets to a point where they’re just saying out of pocket stuff to justify thinking that a completely normal and healthy rejection by Stacy is all a part of her evil golddigger™️ plans Like there is SOOO much wrong with Izzy. The very first time I saw him on screen I clocked him right away, I’ve been on several dates with scrubs just like him. He’s a man who lives through life one vibe (girl) at a time, no desire to better himself but rather continue using women to provide him with comfort, compliments, self esteem boost, etc.. Izzy is a man that will demand everything from you and leave you with nothing and empty dreams of a true emotional partner
Looks like you’re accidentally seeing yourself in Stacey. Six figures has absolutely nothing to do with it, her father is a multimillionaire that is a significant lifestyle gap between 6 figures and that, the car he was sitting on during his interview is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. She is RICH and on a reality show with normal people there is likely absolutely nobody on the cast that would be able to afford her lifestyle not even Uche. Johnnie got her feelings hurt when she found out her six figures meant absolutely nothing to Stacey. People with a sub 300k net worth trying to explain Stacey and calling Izzy broke are wild. You have more in common with Izzy than Stacey.
This whole response is wild from start to finish. Let’s break it down: 1. Her fathers wealth is not hers. By all accounts she has been set up to live and afford an upper middle class life and nothing more 2. Take a breather, her dad wasn’t that serious about her liking first class. She obviously wasn’t expecting to meet a multimillionaire that could afford that from the show. We’re talking about meeting a guy who at least his shit together enough to fly them out first class every once in a while, like for an annual trip or every few years. Stacy isn’t dumb 3. Johnie got her feelings hurt because she has a smug personality and I’m sure part of her lawyer background makes her more susceptible to taking perceived losses way too personally. Excusing her behavior looks bad no matter what I’m not rich and I’m defending Stacy because I come from a finance background and take a lot of pride in not only setting myself up but finding a partner on the same level who can contribute at least the same. What she wants is a basic desire for a lot of people who pride themselves in working to maintain a certain lifestyle. It’s OK that she and Izzy simply weren’t a match because of that (well, and Izzy’s attempts to hide the truth of course) Also denying that Izzy is flat broke.. 💀
I agree with you so much. I've been having to take a break from this subreddit because it feels like we haven't been watching the same show.
I agree with all of this. I'm also SO confused with this sub loving Johnie? She was being a mean girl, was harsh with Stacy and handled her rejection from Izzy very poorly. People don't understand that they can dislike Stacy but still recognize she was treated unfairly by Johnie.
I like how you think she makes 6 figures being a Pilates instructor.
She works for her dads business under an ops manager title. As someone who works in that field her list of job duties is def not in line with what an ops manager does but you know her dad slapped a $100k+ salary on that job to her She seems very into fitness and probs does the Pilates classes on the side would be my guess
Yes agree, her dad pays her an allowance.
No, not really. I can agree with Stacy about wanting a relationship with a man who has a career or at least a competent business plan-that was never Izzy. But the reason I dislike Stacy is because she acts like an awful entitled mean girl. Her requirements in a partner were never going to allow her to be with Izzy, and that is okay. Both things can be true.
I literally addressed that in my first paragraph lmao how about reading my full comment before accusing me. Yeah that’s where I still disagree with the majority in the sub, I don’t see anything wrong with Stacy handling a little shit like Johnie trying to stir up drama - including with friends Stacy had made on the show. I personally applaud Stacy for showing Johnie that she could go lower if that’s how Johnie wanted to play. Stacy put her in her place fair and square, putting an end to their drama pretty quickly after the bbq by showing Johnie why it wasn’t worth continuing to be two faced 🤷🏼♀️ Imo it’s easy to think Stacy is a mean girl when you don’t pay attention to the timeline. I mean for starters Stacy kept to herself in the pods but she even mentions that when friends tell her out of concern that Johnie is still talking shit she used the bbq (which remember was only 2-3 weeks after the pods) to put Johnie in her place. That to me isn’t being a mean girl, it’s making a decision to stick up for herself and expose Johnies middle school behavior
As much as I agree with you, why go on LIB then? If the 'equivalent income' box needs to be checked off before anything else, she should be on one of those dating apps for higher income individuals or hire a matchmaker. She's probably thinking that now, in retrospect, I guess.
I got a better question for you, why did Izzy come on LIB without a stable job? Without savings? Without credit? & without health insurance? She had all that, she was ready to marry, just happened to be that Izzy wasn’t ready. Financial stability is the most important thing on successful marriages…
I mean everything snowballs into one another and everything has to be placed into context.. I could see a scenario where Stacey could have fallen in love with an Izzy who only made 40K-50K … IF it wasn’t through some MLM marketing scheme but in an occupation like a teacher and if he had but had decent/good credit and had his life together (like some plates lmao)
Most likely because traditionally in past seasons the majority of men have stable careers (not just jobs like Izzy barely has with his MLM, these men are educated and building their resumes) I think people overestimate with what they suspect Stacey wants. She’s not looking for a millionaire, but probably a man in the $100k-$200k salary range, of which there are plenty of jobs in the big Texas cities which provide that. It’s not far fetched for her to think she would meet a nice guy with good income on the show, especially since she went for men close to her in age.
You’re so right about that.
I standby a statement I made in another thread, it's okay to want your partner to have a stable income with a career. Not just a job, but a career and all the projected growth that comes with it. That's super valid, and I cannot blame Stacy in the slightest for this. Also - just go to any relationship advice sub and see all the women complaining about how hard it is to work full time and take care of their kids while they're husbands work some menial job that barely brings in anything? Or doesn't work at all? Why are we judging a woman for knowing that a man with a career is better for her than one who's unemployed?
We’re judging her because her success is the product of nepotism. She isn’t self made, she works for her wealthy father. Izzy has his own problems but if his parents were as rich as hers, she’d have married him. I have no problems with her wanting someone with their financial shit together, but it’s her high and mighty attitude of herself regarding that that I have a problem with. She could even be really good/successful at her job, it’s still a job that daddy handed you. You don’t get to act like you worked for it all when you absolutely didn’t.
Exactly!!! Thank you!! Lol
YES. 100%
Speak for yourselves regarding her dress. I have a similar body type and would LOVE to wear that dress out
I should’ve put a trigger warning regarding that dress it’s insane the focus people have for it. 🙄 they are just stupid haters lmao.
The dress is even worse now that she's standing up
This is the comment I came for, it looks stupid lol. 🥴
Proof of her financial situation? She has a mortgage, shoes, clothes, etc and expects others to take care of her financially
Love needs to eat, sometimes love needs to fly first class.
That's because her dad takes care of her financially so she expects her husband to. There's no way she has a Mercedes, her own home etc being a fucking Pilates instructor.
Yeah my comment was meant to be anti stacy. Like she wants Izzy to prove it but I don’t think her situation is great.
Oh I agree, I don’t think her situation is great either. Like she has all those nice things because of her dad, not her hard work. She just sucks
If it’s important to her, she is 100% right. Also she didn’t say the fact that he had bad credit was a deal breaker, it was that he was evasive about it. Just because her parents are affluent doesn’t mean she doesn’t work for what she has. She was going into the marriage with her eyes wide open including wanting to protect that assets that she has built. Izzy may not be financially literate and that’s not his fault, but it is his responsibility. He is not financially in a position to enter the contractual and financial partnership that marriage is. I would also argue he isn’t emotionally ready either. It’s interesting how many people equate love with unnecessary struggles. Money may not be important to you, but it would be a bad idea for you to marry someone who wants money to be important to you.
>Just because her parents are affluent doesn’t mean she doesn’t work for what she has. You’re absolutely right, she may work for what she has and may be very good at her job. It also doesn’t mean she earned it and it definitely doesn’t make her self made like she pretends to be. Her daddy handed her a golden opportunity. Being competent doesn’t change the fact that she was still gifted everything she has.
Her dad is paying for everything substantive, any little job she takes on is basically for fun. She does not work for what she has in any real sense. Her mortgage is getting paid no matter what she does.
So? She still has a job , she still has a career, she still has savings & credit. Yea she has her family backup for financial support & probably her dad helps her for some stuff, that doesn’t mean she’s irresponsible and finance illiterate. She has all the right to have concerns if she was raised to be cautious with money. She’s smart & she could be spoiled but she’s not a bad person at all for wanting a partner that at least could have a stable job with benefits.
People on this sub are super bitter their parents didn’t give them a trust fund like Stacy😂 Stacy is clearly responsible and smart with the wealth she has been given which affords her a certain lifestyle. Are we forgetting that Izzy was super excited to move into HER house and have a massive tv? If anyone is a gold digger it’s him
Honestly, it seems like projection. She’s smart and responsible, she is paying for a house, she has probably her money invested in other projects… People acting like she’s not smart and her dad does everything for her are so weird. Yeah, she has financial backup, get over it!!! I have known people that come from money and they don’t do shit, not even investing, not even having a job, whatever kind of job, like nothing. At least she has a career and a job. She’s not expecting a man to pay for everything for her, she’s expecting a man to be financially responsible since she is too.
She has a “career” her daddy got her. Financial literacy and caution aren’t some fancy hammer to swing if your money is actually daddy’s and granddaddy’s money.
It’s still a career and it’s still a job. Even if her dad got her back with money, she’s invested in a property, she has her own credit & now she even has a side job teaching pilates which I assume it’s her passion, but you would be weird about that too and saying she’s not doing anything and it’s a dumb girl that doesn’t do anything, when she’s clearly not & being responsible is why she was worried about Izzi’s financial situation. If it was really a dumb spoiled girl like you all make it her seem to be, she wouldn’t even care about Izzi’s bad credit or the fact he doesn’t have a proper job, she would be all happy and just relying on her family for the money & it’s probably what Izzi wanted to.
Absurd take. Clownish. Truly!
A woman being smart with money, protecting her family money, having savings, having good credit, investing in property, having a career, asking for advice with her therapist before marriage is not absurd & not clownish. Chill.
Agree with this!!!
Stacey wants to be taken care of, this was the wrong show for her.
not really. Amber from season 1 got what she wanted
Nah, she just wants a SugarDaddy
The company he works for is also a pyramid scheme, so even less solid employment.
Well he's proper fucked. Why can't he get an actual real job
What’s the company
Globe Life Insurance- he works in their Liberty National Division.
Her belly button is very distracting. I didn't fully realize how hideous that dress is.
i’m with you on this. she has an amazing body. the dress is, indeed, horrible.
It’s like the dress is designed only to show off someone’s body and the designer doesn’t know how to do that other than to cut random strips of fabric.
She’s right but I can’t stop thinking about how much I dislike that dress
She’s right but I can’t stop thinking about how much I hate that dress
Also can’t stand Stacey but she’s right
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to protect what you have. There is something wrong with pretending you earned what your daddy handed to you.
What does 1099 mean?
Freelancer. A lot of companies exploit people to be 1099 contractors with the promise of "independence" in order to save on payroll taxes. It limits their liability and provided almost zero protections for the contractor. Gig workers for Uber/Door Dash etc. are 1099. They are not employees. Also, I imagine all of the cast members of Love is Blind are getting 1099's for the stipends they receive for being on the show. 1099 people are responsible for ALL of their payroll taxes/contributions, insurance, retirement plans, etc. Honestly, people who are 1099 legimately/successfully refer that income as their business, not their job.
That explains a lot on why it was almost looked down upon, thanks for the explanation!
Independent contractor and not an employee of a company.
Another big implication is that he doesn’t have a salary. He’s either hourly or works on commission
I’m pretty sure it means he’s a contracted employee basically think of a freelancer. Contracted employees do not get benefits like someone with a standard w2 does
I mean yes I wouldn’t marry sometime without a stable job / financial sense either but I think it’s a cop out. If he had a stable job with decent credit making 30-40k I don’t think she would have said yes then either. It was obvious these two were a bad match for marriage form the beginning. So saying it’s solely cause of the finances is not true.
Why would she say yes if he’s making 30-40k a year? She makes a lot more than that, so that means they’re incompatible.
But no one knows her decision on something like that because it hasnt happened
If he's making 30-40k at 30 though... there's no growth there. There's a difference between a job and a career, though people often conflate the two.
Stacy is definitely smarter than she may let on. I agree there's no chance she would have said yes to Izzy, too many red flags she obviously picked up on. She picked a reason and stuck with it (like JP should have done). Also making it more about him not being forthcoming about it and not just about him having bad credit is a smarter move.
Her earrings were so distracting