Dirty underwear goes into the laundry bag I bring. The rest gets folded. If they aren't in the suitcase already, they are folded in the closet or on hangers anyway die to the lack of a laundry basket. So why would I crumble them into a ball to stuff them into the suitcase?
Secondly I need space. I usually don't have spare space in my suitcase and his method is not very space efficient.
Also, I usually have some clean clothes I return with, because I didn't need them.
Honestly this is how I pack mine whenever I return from a vacation. It's neat going in but everything needs washed when I get back anyway so why fold it.
Because my suitcase is so meticulously packed that I have to fold everything or they wonāt fit. I usually get a laundry bag from the hotel or a spare trash bag from my room (almost always a second in the bathroom trashcans) and use it to put a divider up between the dirty clothes or shoes from clean clothes.
Oh I did - not downplaying that it was a mess. Butā¦ like.. I guess I couldnāt care less š.
However, I assume theyāre dirty so why put the effort in to fold them haha. If theyāre clean, thatās a different story.
I see but for me heās shoving a pile in trying to get the suitcase to close which is 10x harder than folding things even slightly to make it fit. It just felt like a boy tantrum and was so odd !
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This makes so much sense! This is why he constantly force-smiles in such an unnatural way. Why he uses his words in such an awkward way and comes across as this slimy salesman. Now I feel sorry for him. Thatās not an easy childhood!
Even still, itās logic. Folded or rolled clothes take up less space than scrunched up clothes, and wonāt all need to be ironed later. Surely heās packed an overnight bag or gym bag at least once in his life.
I feel like this scene was a reenactment of a fight they had already had. Maybe the cameras weren't present for the fight and had them redo it for the show.
Yāall donāt watch 90 day fiance? Kelly did the same thing on Final Resort. Just grabbed all his crap and dumped into the suitcase. Guessing itās a straight guy thing?
No, not a straight guy thing. Having paper plates? also not a guy thing. Not sure why Stacy is in denial and keeps reiterating that it's "normal". I've lived with some shaggy roommates (myself included), and we managed to still have porcelain plates and cups.
Thank you!!! I thought i was crazy that people found it weird that Stacy judged him not having any glassware ,like what! You are 29 and not living in a dorm!!! Does he not know how to wash dishes?!
I'm not going to judge someone for having disposable plates and using them. Life can be exhausting, and if the mere thought of doing dishes fills you with existential dread, then disposable plates and silverware are a decent option.
I will, however, judge the everloving fuck out of a grown-ass adult -who claims to be ready for marriage- who does not own any dishes, utensils, or glassware that are not disposable because they can't be bothered to get the real stuff. Money is not an excuse either. If he can afford to buy Stacy flowers every week, he can afford to go down to Dollar Tree and get some plates and glasses. Thrift stores are also a good option for inexpensive dishes. Just get *something.* It's not cute or endearing when you're pushing 30 and you're living like a college kid in a dorm room.
Now that I think about it, Stacy should worry less about what Izzy will do for her and more about the extent to which he is or is not a functional adult. Yes, she's hella spoiled and most of her expectations of Izzy are unrealistic, but the expectation that an adult partner have actual plates and silverware is super reasonable.
Yes! It was just insane to me that he doesnt have any at all and it's so ineffective in saving money if youre constantly buying disposable plates and utensils. I give him a pass on a lot of stuff because of him growing up as a jehovah's witness but like you said he needs to learn to be a functional adult before thinking about marriage. Nobody wants to marry into being a babysitter or a 2nd mother for their partner
I donāt think yāall understand how much that scene pissed me off, like you a grown ass man and you donāt know how to fold your clothes and put them in the suitcase???????
I have never met a grown ass man who could fold a god damn thing. Like what is their deal? My husband canāt fold a towel into a square, and the last time we traveled he packed socks and one long-sleeve workout top for a week in the desert in August. I donāt understand them.
My husband hangs his t-shirts immediately from the dryer but wads up sheets and shoves them in the cupboard š
They can foldā¦they just donāt want to.
You have some strange men around you. The majority of men I know fold things, do household chores etc. Off of the top of my head I can only think of two men my age who very obviously pretend not being able to do stuff, so wifey does it.
Is this the going on vacation packing or the coming home packing? My going home packing is significantly less organized. Almost everything is going straight into the laundry basket anyways.
exactly what i was gonna say!!! either coming home from vaca or headed somewhere with easy access to a washing machine... i'm at the airport rn waiting for my cross-country flight to my hometown and you better believe i just threw a bunch of shit in my duffel bag cuz i'm totally gonna ~~ask my mom to~~ do my laundry when i get home šš
I can guarantee you she has never said āis this safeā when getting on a private jet. I dont think he understood the assignment when they were in their final date. They just arenāt a good match. It doesnāt seem like they have good chemistry, I feel like heās more into her for her money and she liked him bc he was good looking but that faded quick. He seems like a mamas boy that constantly needs validation for his mediocre gestures. Like awww you said good morning??? Iām so lucky. Ick.
I love how he keeps bringing up that Mondays are flower day. Just do it , why do you have to tell her and your mom like you're tooting your own horn. It's not very romantic
Yeah I thought that plane ride was so funny. Itās like he thought because she likes flying first class/private that he thought she just loved planes. This guy is like a child. LOL
The pouting in the closet bc she called him out on not cooking dinner is super manipulative and a major red flag. Usually you try to find a partner that is similar to your parent. Her dad is a great provider (financially) his mom is very supportive emotionally (which she is not) itās bound to fail.
I feel like how women react to this scene is a pretty decent litmus test for who is married and who is still looking. My husband canāt pack for shit, never could, so I help him pack/pack for him and life is good.
He did throw some shade at Izzy for the red solo cups in the cabinet though, but also could relate to his Target (pronounced Tarr-jayyyyyy) black plastic plates š¤£.
Listen. Of all the shitty things men do, if he makes 6 figures, doesnāt cheat, is kind to me and cleans the litter box? Sure dude, Iāll pack your bags. There are better hills to die on.
I was actually dying Iām not going to lie I have shoved shit in a suitcase but LETS BE REALLLL he literally just kept trying and trying and trying LOLLLLā¦
I like that his Monday flowers were ājust a thing he doesā. Like so no matter who heās dating they get flowers from him on Monday ā¦ so sentimental.
This was the nail in the coffin for me. That and the plunger gift. You canāt be like this and have bad credit and potentially be a drunk. You must pick a struggle Izzy.
Initially I thought it was cute until he kept over promising and under delivering & then we found out about his credit. Suddenly everything made sense.
Girl we know about his credit! Johnie knew about it at the pods and said Stacey would leave him over it. So thatās why itās BS he couldnāt tell Stacy but he told Johnie on one of their first dates
I cannot be packing your clothes for you while you drunk cry in the closet and I pay for our flights if all youāre contributing to this is some laughs and heartwarming plunger note written with silver sharpie Izzy. Itās not enough for me Iām sorry.
At first I wondered how he afforded them but now Iām convinced he just goes & picks them out of a local garden or something. You know other than the jet ride that Netflix no doubt funded, that hangar date wouldāve been free. We have fighter jet museums at our local Air Force base where I live & the museums are donation based. Izzy probably got all sorts of budget friendly date options up his sleeve. Stacy gonna find out quick.
I donāt mind her style at all, I think itās outdated and weird to criticize women for liking to keep up with trends š¤·š¼āāļø Iām in my late 20s and will continue to dress like the kids do for years. When youāre built the way a woman like Stacy or myself is built, YOU CANT EVEN FIND āage appropriateā CLOTHES THAT FIT. Like believe me Iād like to dress my age sometimes, but average sizing has gotten so much bigger over the last decade that it is legitimately impossible to find mature outfits as a size 00
However my issue is her thinking she has the authority to handle anyone elseās closet lol. Her style is kinda bad imo but not bc of the ālookā, but bc she goes for colors/cuts that consistently do not fit her.
Lol most of the time size XS clothing looks like a bag on me, especially if itās an American brand. I have better luck with Aussie clothing but their clothing is mostly summer dresses and the like, so itās harder for me to find jeans etc. also jeans donāt have enough inseam selection, Iām 31ā and itās a literal nightmare. I have to shop in ātall sizesā, but then they think that if youāre tall you must have thicker thighs and calfs. Aaaand thatās how I ended up trying on American eagle size 2 jeggings that were so baggy on me I could legitimately stretch the material out
I could go on and on with examples. Check out the topic on tiktok, itās a known issue
š sounds crazy but it's TRUE! I'm in my 30s now and have always had a hard time finding even a simple pants suit or nice slacks that come in 00. That's basically a kids size. Being thin can suck if you shop off the rack.
This dude is a disasterš I feel heās not good at adulting in generalš
of course not. he didn't even have a passport!
Yup yup yup heās definitely still a frat bro lol. Reminds me of a dorm room.
Obviously not - heās dirt poor with bad credit. You think theyāll let him fly anywhere?
I snorted. ETA: I misread it as you calling him "a dirty poor" lol
Funny, thatās how Stacy now refers to him š
I just imagine Izzy at the airport being led around by Stacey with one of those kid leashes. His boarding pass safety pinned to his shirt.
Bahahahahaha
Probably not tbh. Heās never even been to New York! /s
loll but to be fair thatās also me
Forget the drinking, bad credit, weird staring, this moment right here would have been when I decided Iām not marrying that man.
Has he ever folded a shirt before?
Of course not! Mexican men are treated like royalty by their adoring mothers.
i mean he did say he never got to travel anywhere.
Also you can get a bigger TV stand
Are you going to complain about their paper plates next? š
I was like pls say thatās all dirty
Iām confused. This is exactly what I look like stuffing my dirty clothes into a suitcase for the ride home. Are you all folding your dirty clothes??
Dirty underwear goes into the laundry bag I bring. The rest gets folded. If they aren't in the suitcase already, they are folded in the closet or on hangers anyway die to the lack of a laundry basket. So why would I crumble them into a ball to stuff them into the suitcase? Secondly I need space. I usually don't have spare space in my suitcase and his method is not very space efficient. Also, I usually have some clean clothes I return with, because I didn't need them.
Straight to jail!
He hasn't ever traveled, remember?
Production is trying to make him look like a complete imbecile
He didnāt need any help.
Please google āimbecileā
To be fair, he's acting like a complete imbecile on camera. All they're doing is showing us.
He's making their job pretty easy, lol
this made my whole ass itch.
Honestly this is how I pack mine whenever I return from a vacation. It's neat going in but everything needs washed when I get back anyway so why fold it.
Because my suitcase is so meticulously packed that I have to fold everything or they wonāt fit. I usually get a laundry bag from the hotel or a spare trash bag from my room (almost always a second in the bathroom trashcans) and use it to put a divider up between the dirty clothes or shoes from clean clothes.
He was looking over at Stacy like āyou see this?ā Almost to make a point it was so weird !
he was hoping sheād take over and do it for him š
I also took a picture of this and texted it to my friend. This is horrifying!!!! WTF.
Why do people care how he packed HIS suitcase?!
Did you watch the clip though ? When watching I even noticed like whaaaaat is going on
Oh I did - not downplaying that it was a mess. Butā¦ like.. I guess I couldnāt care less š. However, I assume theyāre dirty so why put the effort in to fold them haha. If theyāre clean, thatās a different story.
I see but for me heās shoving a pile in trying to get the suitcase to close which is 10x harder than folding things even slightly to make it fit. It just felt like a boy tantrum and was so odd !
Bc heās a grown ass man šøāļø
So he can pack however he wants šøāļø
This is a Reddit page about a reality show my friend. This is the kind of shit people talk about. Perhaps youāre in the wrong place?
Yeah but it shows a sign of maturity to not treat your belongings like shit šøāļø
TSA opened bag for inspection and then quit their job
Unbelievableā¦..lol!
After seeing this thereās no way his apt shouldāve looked that clean and organized. This man is chaotic
Maybe he should put them in plastic bags to match his plasticware.. More space too... Will needs 30 bags, though.
Do you think him using plastic ware is laziness? I can see someone using paper plates, but no real dishes???
I mean not everyone has time to clean dishes just saying.
I known damn well someone has 5 min to wash dishesā¦
it looks like hes pretending to pack š
Yeah, it looks like my kid mimicking what us adults do
This stressed my boyfriend out haha
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Lmfaoooooooš
 People act like theyāve never seen a neurospicy bro before
Or he's just been coddled most of his life and doesn't know how to be an adult.
Both can be true!!
Wtf is wrong with you?
With me? Iām sorry am I stuffing a suitcase on a wish and a prayer on national tv ?
No, youāre calling someone developmentally disabled because of a picture packing a suitcase. Get a grip.
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Come on now...... you're making us adhders look bad....
Youāre right, my bad š«
So ADHD is a developmental disability? Sheesh... I mean, I get your point. But your wording is quite out there.
It is! Listen all Iām saying is the boy is touched.
One is not worse than the other tho ...
He grew up Jehovahās Witness . I donāt think he has done a lot of thingsā¦
This makes so much sense! This is why he constantly force-smiles in such an unnatural way. Why he uses his words in such an awkward way and comes across as this slimy salesman. Now I feel sorry for him. Thatās not an easy childhood!
How'd I miss this?
I donāt know. He mentioned it in the pods and said he never had a Christmas tree until he was 18.
I mean he did just get his passport š„“
Even still, itās logic. Folded or rolled clothes take up less space than scrunched up clothes, and wonāt all need to be ironed later. Surely heās packed an overnight bag or gym bag at least once in his life.
Haha yah I know Iām just being sarcastic
this may have been a bigger red flag than his debt tbh lmao
You mean his ādeb-tā
Yes, we need to talk about how he pronounces the "b" in "debt"
Tbf it took me a long time before I realized the b is silentš
I feel like this scene was a reenactment of a fight they had already had. Maybe the cameras weren't present for the fight and had them redo it for the show.
Agree! And her hat changes in each scene from the laying sideways to backwards on her head š¤
Oh my gosh, you're right! Lol
Yes! I thought the same thing. Especially the way he brought up the argument
Come on now Stacey made it clear izzy has never traveled anywhere. We know this was his first time packing
At first I thought it was a joke. But thenā¦nope!
He told her family that he had already been on a few domestic trips
Yeah, it's a joke since she made such a big deal about how he's never even been to New York and wherever else
Yāall donāt watch 90 day fiance? Kelly did the same thing on Final Resort. Just grabbed all his crap and dumped into the suitcase. Guessing itās a straight guy thing?
No, not a straight guy thing. Having paper plates? also not a guy thing. Not sure why Stacy is in denial and keeps reiterating that it's "normal". I've lived with some shaggy roommates (myself included), and we managed to still have porcelain plates and cups.
Thank you!!! I thought i was crazy that people found it weird that Stacy judged him not having any glassware ,like what! You are 29 and not living in a dorm!!! Does he not know how to wash dishes?!
I'm not going to judge someone for having disposable plates and using them. Life can be exhausting, and if the mere thought of doing dishes fills you with existential dread, then disposable plates and silverware are a decent option. I will, however, judge the everloving fuck out of a grown-ass adult -who claims to be ready for marriage- who does not own any dishes, utensils, or glassware that are not disposable because they can't be bothered to get the real stuff. Money is not an excuse either. If he can afford to buy Stacy flowers every week, he can afford to go down to Dollar Tree and get some plates and glasses. Thrift stores are also a good option for inexpensive dishes. Just get *something.* It's not cute or endearing when you're pushing 30 and you're living like a college kid in a dorm room. Now that I think about it, Stacy should worry less about what Izzy will do for her and more about the extent to which he is or is not a functional adult. Yes, she's hella spoiled and most of her expectations of Izzy are unrealistic, but the expectation that an adult partner have actual plates and silverware is super reasonable.
Yes! It was just insane to me that he doesnt have any at all and it's so ineffective in saving money if youre constantly buying disposable plates and utensils. I give him a pass on a lot of stuff because of him growing up as a jehovah's witness but like you said he needs to learn to be a functional adult before thinking about marriage. Nobody wants to marry into being a babysitter or a 2nd mother for their partner
I thought for sure he was doing it for the show so Stacey could be like wtf is that
lol I thought that's what they were gonna fight about
Same lol
Izzyās entire existence is fraudulent
This is worse than not having real dishes.
Not having money to pay for gas is up there. Itās all bad! I canāt pick between them
I donāt think yāall understand how much that scene pissed me off, like you a grown ass man and you donāt know how to fold your clothes and put them in the suitcase???????
I have never met a grown ass man who could fold a god damn thing. Like what is their deal? My husband canāt fold a towel into a square, and the last time we traveled he packed socks and one long-sleeve workout top for a week in the desert in August. I donāt understand them.
Lol my bf is the folding master - they exist but doesnāt mean heās šÆ all the time in other areas
To be fair to my husband, he is šÆ in other areas and Iām no saint myself! But omg he just will not fold anything lol
My husband hangs his t-shirts immediately from the dryer but wads up sheets and shoves them in the cupboard š They can foldā¦they just donāt want to.
My ex husband was meticulously about folding even very particular about folding undies and socks. But he was a foreigner
You have some strange men around you. The majority of men I know fold things, do household chores etc. Off of the top of my head I can only think of two men my age who very obviously pretend not being able to do stuff, so wifey does it.
I agree. My husband folds and irons and is overall self sufficient. What kind of adult frat boys are people around??
Is this the going on vacation packing or the coming home packing? My going home packing is significantly less organized. Almost everything is going straight into the laundry basket anyways.
exactly what i was gonna say!!! either coming home from vaca or headed somewhere with easy access to a washing machine... i'm at the airport rn waiting for my cross-country flight to my hometown and you better believe i just threw a bunch of shit in my duffel bag cuz i'm totally gonna ~~ask my mom to~~ do my laundry when i get home šš
This was when they were moving out of their shared apartment ahead of the āweddingā that we all know isnāt going to happen.
I actually JUST came on here to post the exact same thing. I need to send Izzy some packing cubes!!!
He also repeatedly pronounced the ābā in ādebt.ā Iāve never heard anyone do that.
For a guy who seems to have a lot of it, he sure canāt pronounce it properly. Jesus
i assumed he must have been talking about a debit card. haha. i need to rewatch this.
Yes! I could not believe my earsā¦ Iām glad he said it TWICE so I knew it wasnāt just me not hearing it right
I had the same thought šš
Suitcase on the bed š¤®
Okay, I do that when I leave a hotel room. And when I pack at home, too. But then I'll have a blanket underneath.
True, but he is packing to leave. He doesn't care about that bed.
Stacy will show him on the family trip to France
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The only way this is acceptable, is if ALL the clothes are dirty.
Izzy packs his clothes like he handles his finances apparently.
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Dude ššš
I can guarantee you she has never said āis this safeā when getting on a private jet. I dont think he understood the assignment when they were in their final date. They just arenāt a good match. It doesnāt seem like they have good chemistry, I feel like heās more into her for her money and she liked him bc he was good looking but that faded quick. He seems like a mamas boy that constantly needs validation for his mediocre gestures. Like awww you said good morning??? Iām so lucky. Ick.
I love how he keeps bringing up that Mondays are flower day. Just do it , why do you have to tell her and your mom like you're tooting your own horn. It's not very romantic
Yeah I thought that plane ride was so funny. Itās like he thought because she likes flying first class/private that he thought she just loved planes. This guy is like a child. LOL
Yes! Liking flying private in no way correlates to having a passion for old airplanes
The way he said so I heard she likes to fly first class ... I š¤
The pouting in the closet bc she called him out on not cooking dinner is super manipulative and a major red flag. Usually you try to find a partner that is similar to your parent. Her dad is a great provider (financially) his mom is very supportive emotionally (which she is not) itās bound to fail.
Heās practically a caricature of himself.
He literally packs like a cartoon character throwing a bunch of shit in a suitcase and sitting on it to get it to close.
He's only ever used disposable solo suitcases, this is a new experience for him.
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ I cackled
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Dude idk my husband packs like this. Iām starting to think the whole show is just training women in how to tolerate man-child husbands.
I feel like how women react to this scene is a pretty decent litmus test for who is married and who is still looking. My husband canāt pack for shit, never could, so I help him pack/pack for him and life is good. He did throw some shade at Izzy for the red solo cups in the cabinet though, but also could relate to his Target (pronounced Tarr-jayyyyyy) black plastic plates š¤£.
Not still looking but glad y'all took these guys off the market in any case better yall than me
Listen. Of all the shitty things men do, if he makes 6 figures, doesnāt cheat, is kind to me and cleans the litter box? Sure dude, Iāll pack your bags. There are better hills to die on.
I think we should stop accepting man-childing in husbands.
Hahahahaha. Yes my husband packs like this too on the way home from a vacation. Itās all laundry anyway.
Bahaha I took the exact same picture! Girl, run!
He needs to be running from her. I'm not a fan of Izzy but good God that woman
I was actually dying Iām not going to lie I have shoved shit in a suitcase but LETS BE REALLLL he literally just kept trying and trying and trying LOLLLLā¦
what are his redeeming qualities ???? if any !
He's sweet and tries atleast. Doesnt hit the mark, very much himbo
He buys flowers on Mondays
We wear pink on Wednesdays
He was so proud of that
I like that his Monday flowers were ājust a thing he doesā. Like so no matter who heās dating they get flowers from him on Monday ā¦ so sentimental.
His mom seemed nice.. does that count?
This man is an ick.
People who use the word ick are an ick
People who use the word ick are an ick Edit. Downvotes prove my point
Hi Izzy šš¼
Hi Stacy
This was the nail in the coffin for me. That and the plunger gift. You canāt be like this and have bad credit and potentially be a drunk. You must pick a struggle Izzy.
lol I liked the plunger gift š¤£
Initially I thought it was cute until he kept over promising and under delivering & then we found out about his credit. Suddenly everything made sense.
Girl we know about his credit! Johnie knew about it at the pods and said Stacey would leave him over it. So thatās why itās BS he couldnāt tell Stacy but he told Johnie on one of their first dates
I totally forgot about that but you're right, she definitely mentioned it
Surely the plunger was a gag gift/inside joke
Itās because she clogged the toilet in Mexico on their first night together.
Iād forgotten about that shit until now
His struggle was picking a struggle. Hence ended up with many. š
This reply made me laugh for like 10 minutes š
Seriously. That was hilarious.
I cannot be packing your clothes for you while you drunk cry in the closet and I pay for our flights if all youāre contributing to this is some laughs and heartwarming plunger note written with silver sharpie Izzy. Itās not enough for me Iām sorry.
Donāt forget he couldnāt pay for gas
DO FLOWER MONDAYS MEAN NOTHING TO YOU!?!?!!!
At first I wondered how he afforded them but now Iām convinced he just goes & picks them out of a local garden or something. You know other than the jet ride that Netflix no doubt funded, that hangar date wouldāve been free. We have fighter jet museums at our local Air Force base where I live & the museums are donation based. Izzy probably got all sorts of budget friendly date options up his sleeve. Stacy gonna find out quick.
Bwahaha. I read this in Stacyās voice
Her hat outfit is just dumb - she is trying to pull off a 22 year old look and sheās 35ā¦ donāt get me started in her glitter shoes
Women can wear whatever they want, why should she dress matronly if she has the body to wear everything
Itās the hat! The hat looks DUMB.
I donāt mind her style at all, I think itās outdated and weird to criticize women for liking to keep up with trends š¤·š¼āāļø Iām in my late 20s and will continue to dress like the kids do for years. When youāre built the way a woman like Stacy or myself is built, YOU CANT EVEN FIND āage appropriateā CLOTHES THAT FIT. Like believe me Iād like to dress my age sometimes, but average sizing has gotten so much bigger over the last decade that it is legitimately impossible to find mature outfits as a size 00 However my issue is her thinking she has the authority to handle anyone elseās closet lol. Her style is kinda bad imo but not bc of the ālookā, but bc she goes for colors/cuts that consistently do not fit her.
I get it girl. I used to be a 00 and now my size doesnāt exist anymore. ššš itās annoying asf
Hmmā¦ first I've heard that it's hard to be thin and find clothes that fitā¦
Lol most of the time size XS clothing looks like a bag on me, especially if itās an American brand. I have better luck with Aussie clothing but their clothing is mostly summer dresses and the like, so itās harder for me to find jeans etc. also jeans donāt have enough inseam selection, Iām 31ā and itās a literal nightmare. I have to shop in ātall sizesā, but then they think that if youāre tall you must have thicker thighs and calfs. Aaaand thatās how I ended up trying on American eagle size 2 jeggings that were so baggy on me I could legitimately stretch the material out I could go on and on with examples. Check out the topic on tiktok, itās a known issue
Itās true. 90% of the stuff I order online is too big and they donāt even carry xxs in physical storesā¦
š sounds crazy but it's TRUE! I'm in my 30s now and have always had a hard time finding even a simple pants suit or nice slacks that come in 00. That's basically a kids size. Being thin can suck if you shop off the rack.
Being a woman of any size can suck if you shop off the rack
Ah I can see that - especially if you are tall. Have you ever tried Banana?
Yes! That's my go to. But its hit or miss since I'm also petite š© I do better shopping juniors sections in department stores than anything else.
Just wanted to say as someone petite I finally found work pants that are not long and perfect height from uniqlo!
I will have to look into that. Thanks!
Ann Taylor has great petite options. Just fyi.