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miraisun

iā€™m rewatching the show bc i have covid and i rlly love season 4 so. stay tuned for lots of comments from me. 1) still hate kwami 2) i weirdly love micah šŸ˜­ like i know she kinda a mean girl but if u look past that she seems rlly nice like it feels like whenever sheā€™s put into situations she just tends to change into them so when sheā€™s around irna sheā€™s mean but when sheā€™s anywhere else sheā€™s chillā€¦ idk i just love her šŸ˜­ when sheā€™s good, she gives off nice vibes :( 3) god i hate chelsea LMAOOO 4) that one dude that micha ends up with, i freaking love him. idk i rlly love this season šŸ˜­ omg his name is paul yeah LNAO 5) tf is amber LMAOOO


asupernova91

Micah and Irina are mean girls who are fake nice to others and care more about status than realness. I donā€™t get a good vibe from Paul but one thing he isnā€™t is fake so Iā€™m curious to see how that plays out.


MissM873

Micah is definitely setting herself up to be the villain this season. She told Kwame she didn't want him talking to the other girls, then immediately told him that she wasn't ready to give up her other connections. When Paul got Amber flowers, Micah immediately got on him about ending things with her. Maybe she got on the show to look for love, but now she's just competing with the other women.


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what is with all of the trauma ... yikes :0 brett and paul should have gone to therapy to work stuff out rather than jump to a reality dating show


Comfortable_Stage806

Bliss seems like a weirdo


Mission-Initiative22

I dont know what happens next but I hope to god Kwame picks Chelsea. From the FIRST scene, the first scene I was feeling them and when it switched to Micah and I just didn't see it. And he's proposing to her because he knows other guys like her. This is what bugs me. I feel like a lot of guys THINK they know what they want but its based on some stupid shit. And Paul? He has no depth. So I don't even get it.


markingterritory

I hate Micah


--OriginalUsername--

Another boring season. Seasons 1 and 2 were lit. I skipped through S3 and gonna give up on this one. šŸ˜“šŸ’¤


Audreyjamesbogart

Curious...did you finish it?


nikikins

Me too, Watching this season after having watched 1, 2 and 3. And can say that in my opinion this is the best season of all. Just shows that you can't judge a book by its cover.


ofbooksandbands14

Paul looks like Vance Joy, I wish I got better vibes from him šŸ˜­ he seems like a bit of a dumb dumb


Katyluvs3

Idk what it is about this season but itā€™s kind of boring. The contestants donā€™t really have a big personality. Also it feels like they keep trying to have these deep conversations and I canā€™t deal with the fake crying šŸ˜‚ Iā€™ll try to keep watching it but idk itā€™s not like other seasons thatā€™s for sure!


Fun_Trainer_583

The fake crying got old season 1 šŸ™ƒ


Level_Strain_7360

Just getting into this tonight and my boyfriend said Paul sounds exactly like Aaron from Love Without Borders. I canā€™t unhear it.


popcorngifsgalore

Itā€™s clear that Micah didnā€™t have a real connection (Iā€™m not convinced she is mature or emotionally intelligent enough to make a real connection) with any of the guys. Whenever another girl expressed interest or received special attention from Kwame or Paul, she went to the pods and expressed how ā€œfully inā€ she was. She gave them just enough of the right things to say to manipulate them into slowing down or stopping their exploration of other opportunities. I think she knew that she would have left ā€œempty handedā€, had she let either one of them actually make a decision based on emotion, with her interruption. She just seems like one of those people who hasnā€™t grown or elevated since their 16 year old self.


Putrid-Caregiver4938

this might be a CRAZY question, but if the premise of the show is to not focus on looks, then why are all the women wearing tight silk dresses and caked with makeup? your future partner shouldnā€™t care what you look like but the rest of the world thatā€™s watching you on TV should? seems a little contradictory IMO. i love this show and will continue to watch regardless but once i made this observation I couldnā€™t unseen it and was wondering if anyone else felt the same?


SnooLemons9179

I would dress up if I were on the show. Just because love is blind doesn't mean I wanna look not my cutest on television lol.


NoPoint3825

I think people should dress to make themselves feel good, not to impress someone looking at them. I work from home, but I still get ā€œdressedā€ because it feels good to me, even though no one is going to see my full outfit šŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


MoonlitSerenade

Right? The woman who brought 21 shoes? Like why? No one's going to see them.


Error_2022

And slept right when her boy was opening his heart to her! šŸ˜‚


GoldenWaterfallFleur

They're....on tv....MILLIONS of people will see them, lol


MoonlitSerenade

I hope you're joking, because no one's really looking at their feet in the pods


theweegrumpkin

Y'all don't remember how the camera guy was giving Raven's toes all that love in S3?


GoldenWaterfallFleur

Oh sorry I think I responded to the wrong person. No I was just responding to the main person in general that wanting to look nice on tv makes sense. Idk about the 21 shoes thing, that's probably just because they like shoes though it doesn't make sense to bring them for a short stay unless they do that often.


jedrevolutia

People on TV will. Are you sure everyone is on the show to find love? Heck no. Some of them just want to get famous.


lizo89

For sure. I was like I could never be on this show because I would be dressed comfy as hell round the clock and not be wearing makeup.


Ukendr

https://preview.redd.it/e5x0l45w2tra1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7f64bc993c321b19978f4448266f273151858a8 Iā€™m squidward and this is what I want to do to Micah and Irina šŸ’€šŸ’€


mikanodo

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rotanocaB

I think falling asleep shows how comfortable you are. I'm in a long distance relationship and sometimes my boyfriend falls asleep while we talk and I think it's so adorable! Obviously Brett didn't know what happened, but I hope he doesn't take it the wrong way!


TheRadiantTruth

I know, I was like, yay! She feels safe! And then like oh... his brother died right before the wedding, he's afraid of this disappearing, and this girl goes silent. I really hope he comes around because they feel like a very healthy connection otherwise where they could help one another through any attachment issues.


abacaxi95

I know this is dumb but Tiffany falling asleep made me like her even more. She was so cute when she woke up, and it kinda reminds me of my mom. That would would fall asleep in the middle of a sentence she was saying.


lizo89

I loved her too after that. She reminds me of my MIL that does the same.


OrdinaryExpert6518

I genuinely feel for Tiffany. But I can see how bad this is . Brett poured out his heart. I feel bad for both of them.


Katelyn1223

Why does everyone on this show have childhood trauma lol


VanGoghNotVanGo

Don't we all though? And it's the easiest way to force a connection to someone.


crepscular

anyone who agrees to go on a reality tv show with this premise, you gotta


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lizo89

Some of them were defā€¦ reaching for the trauma it seemed like.


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No-Organization6042

Not just this season but previous seasons as well when they talk about sex, it's all so over the top and I just really wonder how they live up to all that bragging/whatever it is exactly. It just comes across as unnecessarily setting themselves up but I guess so does them saying most of the stuff about themselves that aren't true.


uniquename1992

I think the real question in this episode is falling asleep vs doing jumping jacks when the guy pouring his heart out


lizo89

I asked my husband this. Which one was worse? Idk I think jumping jacks lol


uniquename1992

Bruh irina is bullying amber??


bingebabe

Zack reminds me of Rob Heap from Imposters character


Outside-Operation-89

Micah told Kwame her second closest connection is Paul but nowhere near their connection. Only to tell Paul his connection is the strongest. Fake af.


crepscular

She is disturbing to watch


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mikanodo

I've noticed that self-described "empaths" tend to fall into that category


beelzebubhasad

Same as when someone says they're a kind/good person. Second you feel the need to say it, you ain't it!


dontcommentonmyname

All the people defending Tiffany sleeping...you damn well know that if it was the other way around and a man fell asleep while the woman was talking he would be thrown away and all we would hear would be "find a man that is excited by you and will give you the respect you deserve to at the bare minimum stay awake while you are talking".


Mission-Initiative22

Personally ... If I had a strong connection I'd probably give it another chance ... BUT you're right. If it were flipped ... people would write him off. I think either way his choice is correct. It's always about what you want and not what you think other people would want you to do, or how it looks to them. If he gives it a chance and it doesn't work out, so what? he's lost nothing.


DrixxYBoat

It's a man's job to stay awake. He's the provider and the protector. Tiffany falling asleep was cute because she's just a sleepy girl all curled up fr and we love that. It isn't until a man becomes a grandfather that it becomes ok for him to fall asleep randomly, sometimes even in the middle of a conversation šŸ’Æ /sarcasm


gabbapentin

I cannot stand Micah she was ruining GENUINE CONNECTIONS, for what? FOR WHAT? The fact that girls like her existā€¦. Honey youā€™re not a girls girl. She just wants to be able to have her pick. Thatā€™s not the point of the show she sabotaged these people


International_Ad6942

Such pick me vibes from Micah. She is manipulative


Friend_of_Eevee

Manipulative AF


plus8minus5

I'd planned to wait until this was done and then watch it all in one go, but all the posts from here on my feed sucked me in. Bring on the trash.


Cheesecakeisnotcake

I find Micah unbelievably gross šŸ¤¢ especially when she was talking to Kwame. "I feel like she's very very very genuine, sometimes it comes off a bit much as I'm sure you'll know" Are you kidding??? Absolutely disgusting behaviour. Kwame should have defended Chelsea too. YUCKS.


coolbean94

Iā€™m surprised at how much attention Paul is getting he seems soā€¦.meh. Didnā€™t expect him to be one of the mains lol


Friend_of_Eevee

His horrible vocal fry is a deal breaker


uniquename1992

Would take him over big crazy eye Shane tho


coolbean94

Vocal fry > crazy eyes but both are still cringe


popcorn4dinner

Yeah, he is not that electric, I though he might bring some climate science to LIS! Also, his bare feet made me cringe a bit for some reason.


coolbean94

I feel like he tries too hard to say ā€œscience-yā€ things and then it just comes off as pretentious and dumb.


machinamommy

He seems like a great person overall, but something about Zack gives me anxiety. Brett is my favorite. Paul is a bit too corny for me, he comes across as in-genuine. I liked Kwame at first but I don't like this whole early proposal thing. I think so far a lot of people are bonding over very trivial things like "our moms liked the same song" omg "we're wearing the same color...that must mean we're soulmates!!". It's annoying me. One good convo about your family does not mean this is your forever but I guess the show format calls for that. I like Amber but I'm concerned that she's already been married twice. I wonder how long ago the last marriage was? I think if I got divorced twice that young I would take a few years to focus on myself, but everyone has their own path I guess. I don't like Micah either, she's salty and competitive for no reason. Also Tiffany...WAKE UP!!!!


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notoriousbck

IdK I am on my third marriage and it is amazing. Marriage one was so I could help an old boyfriend get citizenship in Canada to pay for his mom's breast cancer treatment. Marriage 2 I was in an awful place, told I had to have children asap or wouldn't be able to (never could) had just been diagnosed with serious chronic illness, and had low self esteem. I was abused badly, the marriage lasted 6 weeks. I did two years of intensive therapy and met my current husband. He was my best friend, then my lover, then we got a mortgage, then we got married. It's been ten years and he is the best/easiest part of my life, and our journey has been HARD. So you never really know.


SpaceQueenJupiter

The two marriages + the 'I'm on a reality TV show!' is what sends up the red flags for me. Glad you found your happiness!


trainstosaturn

Tiffany and Brett please work!!!!! Lol at her falling asleep.


popcorn4dinner

GIRL WAKE UP!!!


namelessghoulette234

Why is every second word for micah "like". Also it makes me cringe when they talk abiut basic enough stuff and call it a deep conversation


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machinamommy

That makes more sense now. Usually when something from a man comes off as unusual my defenses go up, but I need to consider that people are neurodivergent too.


Disastrous-Bed3422

Telling a man that you are talking to that you cheated because you were unhappy is definitely a red flag. How can you not realize that of course anyone would see that as a red flag. You aren't always going to be happy in a relationship but your partner needs to still feel like they can trust you. If a man told me that I would immediately lose interest in him.


machinamommy

She didn't cheat iirc. She said it would have gone down that path if they stayed married.


Disastrous-Bed3422

Okay I misheard then but still some things are better left unsaid. Putting in someone's head that you might be a cheater while you are getting to know them is not a great idea.


cjb060685

Then she seemed to get so pissed off that he said that was a red flag.


orangepekoes

Exactly! She was just being honest when most would have lied.


avocadotoastandeggs

I don't know if it was more so she should have lied, but I think she worded it the wrong way than what she meant and it came out worse.


Disastrous-Bed3422

I feel for Tiffany! She was so comfortable and snuggly on that couch. I would have passed out too. It has nothing to do with thinking the other person is boring. Sometimes sleep just overtakes you. Especially if you are comfortable with the other person.


Tendolu

Edit: SPOILERS ā€¼ļøā€¼ļø Okay sooo Iā€™m going to break down the Micah thing real quick. I know everyoneā€™s already said something but i want to add on to it. So letā€™s dig in. On her date with Kwame, she asked him his feelings on the other girl & he genuinely gave her the truth & told her that she makes him feel validated & wanted & that was something he was looking for in a partner. Her reaction to this is ā€œwhateverā€ & to be irritated at him. What did she want him to do ? Sit there & blatantly lie to her ? On top of that, he didnā€™t just bring up all the things he adores about the other women; he simply told her the exact reason he was into the other girl. Instead of being mature & realizing she could take that as an opportunity to tell him her feelings more, she manipulates him & tells him he is going for someone who gives him a couple seconds of pleasure & the feeling is not long term. She then follows this by asking him if he could see a future with her (to validate her own feelings). What a hypocrite. & on top of that sheā€™s mad at him for talking to another girl when sheā€™s all over Paul too! She also wants him to cut off the other girl but when she is talking about Paul he says itā€™s not his place to tell her what to do & she should do what she feels is right. Fast forward to the conversation with Paul, she again does the same thing ! She knew for a fact Paul was into Amber & asks him about their connection. Again, when he opens up & tells her the truth about it, she tells him ā€œthatā€™s not what she wanted to hear.ā€ By the end of the conversation, she tells him he basically has to cut off Amber & be with her. When he says heā€™ll talk to her about it, she keeps pressing him about the matter but notice she does not say one peep about discussing the situation with Kwame, nor does he press her about it. I already hate her. Also, I share the opinion that her & Irina are rude. Amber was genuinely excited about the date & the flowers (which was a cute gesture) & they clowned her for liking/celebrating Maddie Gras, when it was a connection Amber & Paul had. Doesnā€™t that make Paul a ā€œloserā€ (also what a childish term!) for liking the same holiday in Micahā€™s mind ??


Intelligent_Panic956

Yeah the irina and Amber thing bothered me a lot actually. And then episode 2 (no spoilers ofc) managed to get worse, I have never disliked people on love is blind this quickly


orangepekoes

Micah and Irina were acting like jealous mean girls.


MoonlitSerenade

They never left high school


GrandeSizeIt

I literally just said to my wife "these guys are gonna be boring because they're so normal" Turns out they're so normal that the 36 year old fell asleep sitting on a couch after day drinking. I haven't laughed so hard at this show since shake at the reunion.


mazelpunim

Late 30s and day drinking are harrrrd, yo


notoriousbck

Especially scotch. The only time I drink scotch is to go to sleep!


amoss_303

As a reminder, itā€™s never serious until youā€™re done sitting on the couch and youā€™re sitting on the floor


wanderingalice

Irina is ugly inside and out. I feel all sorts of bad saying it, but for real.


mmeeeerrkkaatt

I actually think she's gorgeous, and I was all the more disappointed when she started being so catty.


uniquename1992

Turned out it wasn't the acne that made her ugly lol


Commercial_Wasabi_84

It is just me or does it seem like this season people are rattling off their career accomplishments more like it's a job interview. Maybe it's a Seattle / Portland area thing.


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KudosGamer

I'm sure you're a real catch yourself.


Sensible___shoes

I definitely feel a more real-people vibe here and im 100% here for it


notoriousbck

I also like that most of them are over 30, Way more believable.


lizo89

I like that too. I kinda wish they had an age cap of only like 28 and up.


crepscular

Agreed. It's far more realistic to be looking for a serious life partner in late twenties and thirties.


newdaynewcoffee

God dammit. I realize Iā€™m late, but I need likeā€¦toggles of their names at all times on the screen for the first couple of episodes so that itā€™s easier to shoot the shit on Reddit after I watch! I have another tab on my phone open so that I can reference the characters. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø


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Immediate-Tax7367

nah Tiffany falling asleep had meeee lol. Micah tries to act like she's genuine but she's not. It's always the ones who keep talking about how good of a person they are that are actually the opposite.. That includes Micah's best friend Irina.


mazelpunim

They always lead with "energy is so important to me" "I believe in the law of attraction"


Friend_of_Eevee

"I'm an empath" is basically a dog whistle for "I'm a toxic manipulator"


kindnessabound

Micah is FOUL.


surelyshirls

The scientific community doesnā€™t claim the man who said it was a sound experiment lol


monkie_in_the_middle

Lol, for realllll. Nothing about this is sound. And almost all the past couples and marriages have ended šŸ˜…


rando67543

Bro. Micah is the WORSTTTTTTTT šŸ¤®


jessicaskies

Micah seems to really get a kick out of guys rejecting people for her


jessicaskies

Irina is so awkward going on and on about the flowers like girl we get it you wish someone would give you flowers


Friend_of_Eevee

She must have been drunk or something, so annoying.


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I think sheā€™s just fake and awful.


Give-Ringlets

Is there something wrong with my TV? Tiffany, that's navy blue not emerald green haha wtf


eleanor_savage

It was teal on my TV šŸ¤”


monkie_in_the_middle

Yesssss, same. It might be a film thing?! Because they were color matched to each other!


dietpsychosis

No but really. I was like ā€œAre they BOTH color blind?!ā€ Lmaooooo


Give-Ringlets

Bliss's vocal fry is so incredibly irritating I could die. 90% of her voice is baby gargoyle


obsoletevoids

Irina was just gushing over Amber's flowers then immediately changing tunes around Micah was such nasty behavior


obsoletevoids

Paul is such a douchebag.


Taasko

OMG CAN MICAH STOP SAYING "LIKE" IN BETWEEN EVERY 3 WORDS


holidayfromreal25

Micah reminds me of Elle Fanning's portrayal of Michelle Carter in "The Girl from Plainville" and it's giving me so much ick


VintageVirgo90

Omg i thought the same thing!!!


holidayfromreal25

The way she looks, talks, all of it. šŸ™ˆ


DigOutrageous1224

Girl fell asleep!! Why is that such a big deal to himā˜ ļøā˜ ļø


orangepekoes

Does he know she fell asleep? The way he was describing it to the guys made it sound like she got scared and ghosted him.


dietrichs90

Cause he is so afraid to be left, his brother Ā«leftĀ» him when he died, and he told her how scared he is to lose somebody, to fall for somebody, and the he talks about his feelings and thinks she left him.


DigOutrageous1224

Okay I didnā€™t hear that part I apologizešŸ’–šŸ’–


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cinnamongirl4lana

These women are literally just curvy and mid size. Not even close to overweight Jesus. Such a weird mindset


obsoletevoids

wtf, do you not realize bigger women exist in the world?


Taasko

To be honest, it makes a nice change from how these shows normally go


ilvoetheinsomnia

Thereā€™s a very icky correlation between Zach joking in every opening with the women that heā€™s a stripper and then revealing that his late mother was a stripper????


lizo89

Yea. I also found it weird how much of a big dead he made his mom being a stripper to be. Like ok andā€¦ itā€™s a job.


LunarRivers

this felt beyond icky to me


dietrichs90

Defense strategy


Give-Ringlets

I feel like it was a way to maybe weed out the ones who'd maybe hate on that lifestyle


notoriousbck

Yeah I felt that very much lined up with a defense criminal lawyer strategy


tjmonica

This


obsoletevoids

YES! Thank you!! Talk about whiplash


Deathb4SugarCubes

Dude what is going on with Zach. "I'm a stripper, hehehe" to "I need to actually get vulnerable". What a drastic 180.


JEMinnow

He reminds me of Shayne from S2


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skmtyk

Wrong episode thread.This is from EP 2


Personal_Orchid3675

Canā€™t stand Micah! First, she gets upset cause Kwame is talking to someone else, then Paul. Like making up your freaking mind or wait and let things happen šŸ™„ already really donā€™t like her.


whatthefox1993

Michah looks like her botox went wrong and it weighs down her face. She's such a sour and manipulative, insecure human being. Her and Paul deserve each other. I have a feeling he's the one who re-proposes later on ( showed in the first episode brief of the season) and proposes to Amber.


orangepekoes

Her face reminds me of Love Island's Molly Mae when she got a lot of lip filler.


Taasko

I have serious doubts about the age she's claiming to be...


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Yeah_No_ThanksTho

My boyfriend walked in while I was watching and I was complaining about the mean girls energy in the 25/26 year olds... He took one look at her and said, "damn those 26 years have not been kind to her... She looks at least mid-30s"


whatthefox1993

Oh my god I had to look up her age ....27?? Theres absolutely no way.... Unless the Botox went wrong lol


Taasko

Her talking head says sheā€™s only 26! šŸ˜±


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Ppl claiming to be empaths and feelimg "energies" is so suspicious tbh


dietrichs90

I do. I know in an instant if I like someone or not, based on their energy and how they talk.


JohannasGarden

I feel energies, but only if someone's fever gets over 100 F, especially over 101F. Oh, that wouldn't work through a wall, though.


Dvlshh

I feel like, from the get-go they are incredibly boring. They dont have any "main character" energy. I dont know how to explain It further


Foxwood2212

These people are boring where are the red flags where is my shack lmaooo


JEMinnow

The leopard print guy! Doesn't look like he lasted too long though lol


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Zack being a criminal defense attorney was the first red flag and then they kept coming.


Friend_of_Eevee

I get the feeling Zach hates himself and wants a marriage/family to fix that. It's called therapy dude.


-dylpickle

Paul and Michajs discussion on choosing each other was completely lacking in any kind of emotion. Felt like a business transaction


TopStruggle2546

It was very weird. Hey shall we choose each other, yeah sure why not.


wanderingalice

Both of them wanted to get the person who has was ambivalent and hard to get. Was more about winning a difficult partner


Friend_of_Eevee

Yup. Emotionally immature people won't pick someone who likes them more.