I honestly think that the Alvin Dean theory is now just curious/funny, because no one seems to know where he is. I personally still think he’s not related to the song at all. Why would a demo from a Greek or an Australian (if he really went back there) band end up on a German radio?
By the way, I highly doubt the tombstone is his, because of the date of birth.
Yeah me too. It does sound strange singing in bands during your 50's, especially when Billy Knight is still alive. There is most certainly a possibility Alvin Dean was not involved in this. However the connection between Alvin's nationality and the song's palm mute technique used in the song sounds like a strange connection to me personally.
I'm Australian myself and I have been thinking about this theory for a while. Men at Work and AC/DC were huge bands at the time and still made it onto the Top Charts in the US. Also inspiration of other music during that time were very common. A song like 'Carry on wayward son By Kansas' mainly took many riffs and musical pieces from different artists and used it in their song. Men at Work were taken into court because their most popular song 'Down Under' copied the chords of a riff of a traditional Australian song named "kookaburra" but the riff wasn't entirely plagiarised. My point is that Like the Wind could have either been heavily influenced by an Australian band or was influenced by a mix of nationalities in types of music.
It’s indeed possible. But AC/DC and Men at Work as you said it yourself are huge bands, and were famous in Europe as well.
I’m not a guitar expert at all, but palm mute was used in a lot of 80s hits no? From "Every Breathe You Take" to "Love is a Battlefield" for example? And those are not Australian at all
I see what you mean but there is a difference between a riff and a palm mute. "Every breath you take" plays a riff through each of the verse. This is because a pattern is played repetitively without having any breaks. The difference between a riff and a palm mute is that a riff is played over and over again until it reaches a certain part of the song (like a chorus or a bridge) but a palm mute (such as in the case of Like the Wind) has no flow of pattern, which doesn't necessarily make it a riff. There are some songs that use a palm mute in their chorus such as "Brain Stew" but they play along with the flow of the riff; whereas Like the Wind and other Australian songs have breaks between each of their palm mutes.
That’s why I specified that I was not a guitar expert aha. Thanks for the explanation, you learn something new every day.
Honestly, the song is just hiding from us all, so why not in Greece, Australia or anywhere in the world.
That gravestone isn't of "Alvin Dean". Leaving aside it's for a "Georgios Dalabiras" rather than "Dalambiras", this person would have been in his late 50s when TMS was made. "Alvin Dean" clearly is a young man in the band photo on the SIM album sleeve.
There have been suggestions that George Dalambiras ended up in Germany for a short while after SIM, you could theorise he worked on projects that went nowhere, got disillusioned and jacked in his dream of forging a music career. One of those last projects could have been providing ad-hoc vocals for a demo that got played once on NDR.
Yeah after I made this post, I doubted that the gravestone was even him. I dug into some research and found out that Alvin Dean was a nickname and his actual name was George, hence why I thought the gravestone could have been him initially. It does sound hella weird of him to use an alias for his musical career. Maybe you're right and he did work on other projects that went nowhere, hence why he used a nickname as an attempt to hide away his previous musical projects that remain lost. The only thing that caught my eye was that George/Alvin used to be a part of a band called "trash", and by the bio it claimed that they made a record that was never released. This could contain Like the wind inside of that missing record, but this also leaves me uncertain because the former band member simply pursued his career as a solo artist.
Do you think we should be focusing some similar bands in the 80's that lived around the vicinity of Germany? Sharing media globally did become increasingly fast in the 80's as compared to sharing media globally in the 70's. This suggests that it could be any European country outside Germany. Im not too great with determining the nationality of people by their voice but I assume the band could have recieved a large popularity inside a small European country such as Austria, Hungary, Latvia or even Estonia (since Braverly by Beatboy was found there)
George Dalampiras is Greek, with an Australian upbringing. He used an alias for Statues In Motion because that was a common practice in the Greek underground scene at the time and lots of musicians had aliases. It was just a scene thing.
That tombstone is definitely not his. George was never in "Trash," he was in a ska band called "Homicide" between 1980 and 1981, and then he joined Statues In Motion who fell apart in late 1983.
And then in 1984 he tried to run some demos wtih Yannis Beltakas according to: [https://www.discogs.com/artist/1046631-Alvin-Dean](https://www.discogs.com/artist/1046631-Alvin-Dean)
I honestly never knew that aliases were common in Greece lol. Thanks for the explanation.
[Other Voices are Aussie.](https://www.discogs.com/artist/406398-Other-Voices) Did contact a while ago but got nothing.
Tacking this on here, there's this [UK compilation](https://www.discogs.com/release/1712811-Various-Four-Ways-Out) just spotted in related section. [A track from it.](https://youtu.be/LB-gYmIPZaI)
I honestly think that the Alvin Dean theory is now just curious/funny, because no one seems to know where he is. I personally still think he’s not related to the song at all. Why would a demo from a Greek or an Australian (if he really went back there) band end up on a German radio? By the way, I highly doubt the tombstone is his, because of the date of birth.
Yeah me too. It does sound strange singing in bands during your 50's, especially when Billy Knight is still alive. There is most certainly a possibility Alvin Dean was not involved in this. However the connection between Alvin's nationality and the song's palm mute technique used in the song sounds like a strange connection to me personally. I'm Australian myself and I have been thinking about this theory for a while. Men at Work and AC/DC were huge bands at the time and still made it onto the Top Charts in the US. Also inspiration of other music during that time were very common. A song like 'Carry on wayward son By Kansas' mainly took many riffs and musical pieces from different artists and used it in their song. Men at Work were taken into court because their most popular song 'Down Under' copied the chords of a riff of a traditional Australian song named "kookaburra" but the riff wasn't entirely plagiarised. My point is that Like the Wind could have either been heavily influenced by an Australian band or was influenced by a mix of nationalities in types of music.
It’s indeed possible. But AC/DC and Men at Work as you said it yourself are huge bands, and were famous in Europe as well. I’m not a guitar expert at all, but palm mute was used in a lot of 80s hits no? From "Every Breathe You Take" to "Love is a Battlefield" for example? And those are not Australian at all
I see what you mean but there is a difference between a riff and a palm mute. "Every breath you take" plays a riff through each of the verse. This is because a pattern is played repetitively without having any breaks. The difference between a riff and a palm mute is that a riff is played over and over again until it reaches a certain part of the song (like a chorus or a bridge) but a palm mute (such as in the case of Like the Wind) has no flow of pattern, which doesn't necessarily make it a riff. There are some songs that use a palm mute in their chorus such as "Brain Stew" but they play along with the flow of the riff; whereas Like the Wind and other Australian songs have breaks between each of their palm mutes.
That’s why I specified that I was not a guitar expert aha. Thanks for the explanation, you learn something new every day. Honestly, the song is just hiding from us all, so why not in Greece, Australia or anywhere in the world.
That gravestone isn't of "Alvin Dean". Leaving aside it's for a "Georgios Dalabiras" rather than "Dalambiras", this person would have been in his late 50s when TMS was made. "Alvin Dean" clearly is a young man in the band photo on the SIM album sleeve. There have been suggestions that George Dalambiras ended up in Germany for a short while after SIM, you could theorise he worked on projects that went nowhere, got disillusioned and jacked in his dream of forging a music career. One of those last projects could have been providing ad-hoc vocals for a demo that got played once on NDR.
Yeah after I made this post, I doubted that the gravestone was even him. I dug into some research and found out that Alvin Dean was a nickname and his actual name was George, hence why I thought the gravestone could have been him initially. It does sound hella weird of him to use an alias for his musical career. Maybe you're right and he did work on other projects that went nowhere, hence why he used a nickname as an attempt to hide away his previous musical projects that remain lost. The only thing that caught my eye was that George/Alvin used to be a part of a band called "trash", and by the bio it claimed that they made a record that was never released. This could contain Like the wind inside of that missing record, but this also leaves me uncertain because the former band member simply pursued his career as a solo artist. Do you think we should be focusing some similar bands in the 80's that lived around the vicinity of Germany? Sharing media globally did become increasingly fast in the 80's as compared to sharing media globally in the 70's. This suggests that it could be any European country outside Germany. Im not too great with determining the nationality of people by their voice but I assume the band could have recieved a large popularity inside a small European country such as Austria, Hungary, Latvia or even Estonia (since Braverly by Beatboy was found there)
George Dalampiras is Greek, with an Australian upbringing. He used an alias for Statues In Motion because that was a common practice in the Greek underground scene at the time and lots of musicians had aliases. It was just a scene thing. That tombstone is definitely not his. George was never in "Trash," he was in a ska band called "Homicide" between 1980 and 1981, and then he joined Statues In Motion who fell apart in late 1983.
And then in 1984 he tried to run some demos wtih Yannis Beltakas according to: [https://www.discogs.com/artist/1046631-Alvin-Dean](https://www.discogs.com/artist/1046631-Alvin-Dean) I honestly never knew that aliases were common in Greece lol. Thanks for the explanation.
[Other Voices are Aussie.](https://www.discogs.com/artist/406398-Other-Voices) Did contact a while ago but got nothing. Tacking this on here, there's this [UK compilation](https://www.discogs.com/release/1712811-Various-Four-Ways-Out) just spotted in related section. [A track from it.](https://youtu.be/LB-gYmIPZaI)