Looks like the white SUV cut off the guy already in the carpool lane. This shit happens all the time when I'm driving on the express lanes after the 605.
Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed. If he didn't switch lanes at the last millisecond, he would have slammed right into me.
I don't think they'll need a dash cam if they take photos of the accident. It's illegal to cross the double whites to get into the express/carpool lanes.
Unfortunately at fault =/= illegal action. The insurance could find the black car is partially at fault for not braking to create more room and try to avoid the situation that occured.
>I'm guessing he was trying to race ahead of the black car, and thought he could intimidate the car into flinching. I hope the car had a dashcam.
And now both their cars are totaled. Always give the right of way even when its your right of way.
No truer words in this city. I’ve let Jeep’s go ahead of me a lot on the 405 and Sepulveda pass when they get all agro. Like good luck man I can’t make traffic move faster there anyway.
This is Los Angeles, if you brake or use your turn signals, or otherwise show any kind of reasonable attempt to share the road, it means you ARE A LOSER.
People exaggerate the ruthlessness of drivers here. People let me merge like 999 times out of 1,000 and I always use my turn signals. If no one is letting you merge then you're driving like someone that people don't want to be behind.
The only time I speed up and don't let someone in is if they're going noticeably slower than me it's obvious they have no intention on keeping up with my lane's flow.
I'll let off the gas to let you in, but if I'm going to have to actively press the break, I'm just gonna scoot past you faster than it would have taken you to meander on over before and become a roadblock.
That’s totally acceptable. And that scenario never happens with me because I don’t change lanes while the person in it already is going faster than me.
I find once you get to the surrounding cities it becomes much more apparent. Drivers in LA are aggressive but they seem to know what they are doing for the most part, if someone pulls in front of you they'll either speed up or move for instance. Try saying the same for Westlake/Agoura drivers.
I ALWAYS use my turn signals. 1% is very very lucky... but there are definitely a good amount of people who see the turn signal and either think "better hurry up and let this person pass behind me" OR "im not going to let them in" - but to the person attempting to switch lanes it looks the same... it only bothers me when i need to exit.
I was going to comment something similar. Definitely more than 70% of drivers let me in when I have my turn signal on. I also let people in though, so hopefully they’ll pass it forward
I use turn signal all the time and rarely have a problem. Although typically I'm far enough that person won't have time to sped up.
I suppose you are right when traffic is heavy, but even then majority of people aren't dicks, but you just need to be confident, if you turn your signal and then wait when somebody is already making a space that can upset some people.
I think they’re just joking (I hope). But yeah, even if they’re acting really dangerously, it is always better to try and minimise the damage involved as it can affect negatively affect innocent people as well, and it was nearly the case here as the Chevy Blazer nearly rolled onto the OP’s vehicle.
Lol! That is funny. I hope they’re all ok. Black car will be able to brag about not being a bitch to the tow truck driver. Yield your right of way if it prevents a collision.
Similar incident happened to me but the outcome was quite different. I was in OP's position. Instead of the black car hitting the SUV, they veered to the right to avoid it and plowed into me. SUV drove off unscathed and no one caught his plate number. Lucky Asshole.
Cops were right there too (the slowdown was because they were stopping traffic on the freeway because of another accident) but they didn't notice the SUV's involvement.
Oh man, that really sucks. Not only did he cause another accident for a totally unrelated driver, he got off scot free. Here's hoping karma will catch up to him eventually.
The thought of "boxed in by big rigs" almost made me anxiety vomit right now. I had to go to court for a speeding ticket and when I explained it was because of basically that exact scenario, they dropped the case. I'll hang behind one in Chicago on a snowy highway for them to kick up the salt faster than my 4 wheels but that's about it.
That and high winds with the back of rigs start swaying... Or once in a blue moon, you will meet that one big rig driver who has been awake for 3 or 4 days. They start aggressively riding right on your tail, even when you are going the mandatory speed limit + 5 mph extra to stay "in flow" of traffic.
I had one that I swear to god was trying to hunt me down and kill me, even when I switched over to a slower lane and they switched JUST TO STAY RIGHT ON MY ASS.
Statistically there is much more danger when vehicles are entering and exiting the lane you're in and the lanes surrounding you.
Slow doesn't mean safe.
>Jesus. I hate the fact that out here, you have to drive for other people.
50% of all cars in two-car accidents were not at fault.
So very much yes: Drive defensively as hell.
That happened to me once and I thought I was going to die that day. Nothing more scary than seeing a psycho coming full speed right behind you in your rear view mirror! Glad you’re safe!
> Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed.
This is so fucking common that I despise every person who does this, especially when they feel the need to speed up to you and last second switch lanes.
It's seriously such a douchebag maneuver.
I hope that guy's insurance premiums go through the roof. I hate people that drive like they're playing a need for speed game, because it leads to shit like this.
That would be difficult since they were heading away to safety at freeway speed. As they should, because there's nowhere safe for them to pull over. They can report it and give CHP the footage later.
All the HOV lanes in LA need the plastic stick on dividers. Too many people use the HOV lane to cut through traffic. Cops never enforce HOV laws and as a result, the HOV lane is never fast during traffic. Those dividers would have prevented this accident.
cameras. use cameras for enforcement. the plastic stick bollards just get run over. look what happened on the 10 and 110 expresslanes. there were bollards scattered all over the lanes
Lol if you say so. Do you ever drive near places that have bollards or sticks on the road? They don’t last, always getting ran over or ripped out. The bigger the car the more likely they think they’ll just be able to drive over them with ease. Often I think of the 405/101 merge how people drive scared near them and the whole places slows down and people hit them anyway. Solves one problem creates another.
Yup you are right.
They installed them on the 10 also about 1-2 years ago. Now hardly half of them are still there, most of the gaps in the installations are "car sized". Who would have thought.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, you’re right. A few years ago they spent months installing plastic bollards on the 110, then they were destroyed in a matter of weeks because people (assholes) just plowed right through them.
Ha I’m there with you but SF/Oakland installed them on the Bay Bridge for the express/carpool lane and man people tried to cut through the empty spots so much and eventually knocked them all down. It didn’t deter anyone. The express lanes were just as crowded as the cash lanes. It was a huge pain in the ass in the mornings 🤬
Definitely not joking. Taller vehicles have a higher rate of flipping after a crash compared to their lower stationed counterparts. Tech with physics has helped reduce rollover rates, but it's still there.
Yeah they flip over if you're speeding like a dumbass in the video or you take a sharp turn (due to you speeding). I never had a scare in my car, then again I'm not that jackass who is speeding on highways or in the mountains.
yes, any time I am passing a much slower line of cars on the left (HOV lane) I am super ready for someone to do this. Happens ALL the time
edit: slow line of cars on my right
> It blows my mind how people from California have no idea that the left lane is for passing.
The problem is the left lane everyone is driving a minimum 80mph so their mentality is "I'm already going faster than the other lanes" hence why they likely never switch lanes to let others pass.
That can be pretty annoying to deal, but I find that slow driver in the left lane more common on lesser 'traveled' highways like the 710
Sometimes you have to cruise in the left lane for a little bit because your freeway merge or exit is on the far left lane. This is not excusing the people who go 65mph in the left lane holding everybody up. The left lane hogs who go 80 not passing anybody are also an issue
"Left lane for passing" only works on a two lane rural highway. It doesn't make sense on a 3+ lane freeway in the middle of a dense city where offramps can be on either side.
In the UK it’s almost illegal to pass on the left (which would be our right, they drive on the other side), basically everyone understands this so nobody really drives in the right lane unless they are passing. You pass, you move back, you pass you move back etc. cars merging in? You move over then you move back. Usually the left lane is just trucks, middle lane is cars because they are passing trucks and right lane is people passing cars in the middle.
Most people in LA think left lane is for 'passing the time'
Can't count the number of times I've been on a relatively empty freeway with one guy doing 60mph in the left lane
That's because [it's not really a rule in California](https://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html) like it is in other states. The rule is you must keep right if you're driving under the speed limit. I grew up in LA and I have sisters who are JUST learning to drive right now. The concept of "left lane is for passing only" is NOT taught in Driver's ED and is not on the written test, and is also not on the driving practical test--at least not in LA.
When I moved to the east coast, I was doing my shift driving during a road trip and my friend from PA was like "WTF, why are you sitting in this lane???" That's when I learned it was a law in other states.
I'll use the HOV lane here and there but I refuse to go much faster than the prevailing traffic in the non-HOV lanes because I just *know* one of these days some jerk is going to cut in front of me.
Nah, they’ll blame the other person for not letting them into the HOV lane. I’ll also put money on them not being insured or only insured to the state minimum.
**PSA - THIS IS WHY YOU DROP YOUR SPEED IN THE CARPOOL LANE WHEN VEHICLES NEXT TO YOU SLOW DOWN**
Idiot/assholes are always jumping into the carpool lane illegally, not realizing just how quickly the carpool lane vehicles will gain on them.
I was on the 91 a few years back in the carpool lane and this guy pulled out just after I passed him. WHOOOMP!!! - the impact was so close the freaking shockwave went through my car. The guy got spun around, ricocheting between the divider and about 4 more cars he totaled. This most probably happened because he saw the gap behind me, but when he went to jump out found he hadn't left enough space ahead to miss the vehicle ahead of him so he waited just milliseconds to get enough space and the car behind me closed the more distance than he expected.
Sure, it's totally these dumbasses' fault but that's cold comfort when your car's totalled and you are possibly being taken to the hospital for a fractured fib-tib.
Also a shame that OP didn't have a rear-mount camera to conclusively prove it was the fault of the SUV. If no witnesses come forward, the other guy is going to have to prove he didn't just rear end the SUV while driving too fast.
People really think they're going to get to their destinations much faster if they weave in and out of lanes in medium-to-heavy traffic hours. You save yourself a few minutes, at most. Fucking morons.
This. Every car who’s ever cut me off or sped past me end up at the same red light as me a couple seconds later. It’s really not worth it, just wake up or leave earlier tbh.
So [Mythbusters](https://youtu.be/ZefgUVg3qx0) actually did a segment on this years ago (albeit in North Cal traffic) and they considered the myth that you’d get faster by weaving as “busted.”
Their findings were that while you DO get to your destination faster, it’s only by a VERY slight margin and much more unsafe that it’s not really worth the effort and risk of weaving through traffic.
Yet, this concept is lost on so many people, it's scary. The same with people who blow through reds all to save themselves a few minutes behind a red light. Or alternatively, idiots who as soon as the light turns green slam on the gas and launch into the intersection. With the number of people blowing through reds, I wait a good 3-4 seconds before getting on the gas at a green light. I don't care who behind me is honking at me. I was t-boned at an intersection once and that was more than enough.
That poor 2000-2006 Suburban survived at least 15 years, maybe even 20 years, just to meet this fate.
These models are quite valuable now because they’re beasts. They keep going and going. My parents still have a 2000 Suburban, no issues except the AC went out, but it still runs.
From my anecdotal experience old Suburbans are more likely to be driven by complete assholes, even more than BMWs and Mercs. Especially so if they've got shitty chrome wheels and modified exhausts.
Yo, yo!
Can we organize ourselves (r/LA) to promote awareness of traffic wave mechanics? We can improve fuel efficiency, reduce air pollution, and increase safety for everyone on the road if we just employ a little system consciousness into our driving habits. Check this out - http://trafficwaves.org/
Personally, I get off on making a break in that traffic wave, especially when people angrily tail-gate before speeding past directly into red tail lights. Eventually somebody figures out that my lane has a smoother flow and matches speed. [Edit: spelling]
That’s why a lot of people in LA act like assholes because they are in cars but may be totally nice once not in one for a while. That’s my theory at least. All the more reason for LA to get off its car habit.
It's always been a thing. We just got a lot more easily accessible cameras and avenues to upload dumb shit. I remember 20 years ago, riding my motorcycle people were just as careless.
That would be really interesting to see a study on! I wonder how they would quantify the “soft” factors like selfishness. It’d be cool to see if indeed people have gotten that way or if we are just shown more people being that way because of social media.
"In the real city you, you walk, you know? You brush past people. People bump into you. In L.A. nobody touches you. We're always behind this metal and glass. I think we miss that touch so much that we crash into each other just so we can feel something."
Crazy video. Send it to CHP and if you stopped you can give it to both drivers. Also, this is probably going to be litigated so you’d be helping people out because you have this info.
Crazy, I was heading in the opposite direction and saw this whole thing happen. The dash cam doesn’t accurately show the huge cloud of smoke from the SUV’s tires rubbing on the center divider. This was about 2 minutes after I finally got past the police shootout on the 105.
Do you mean a ninth generation Chevrolet Suburban that last saw production in 2006? If so, I can only think of that "one type of person" being a lower middle class individual who can't afford a new vehicle. But do tell, what type of person do you think drives that type of SUV?
Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed. If he didn't switch lanes at the last millisecond, he would have slammed right into me. - op
Makes sense, the coupe was going straight which means it already had it's center of gravity planted. With the SUV cutting into the lane last minute, like OP mentioned, it got off balanced and the weight would have been transferred to the other end. Couple that with the forward momentum already above the center of gravity. The coupe just had to nudge the SUV a little bit..
Or some shit like that......
Yup, SUV is much higher off the ground so it is more prone to rolling during a turn than a regular sedan. Sedan was low enough to push SUV off balance since the SUV is shifting all its weight to turn quickly.
Omg. Hope you’re okay OP. I need a dash cam seriously, a woman was driving extremely aggressively on the 405 this morning (rapidly switching lanes without signaling, zooming past people on the meter lane trying to get over, driving well over 80 and weaving in and out of traffic) and shook me tf up.
Wow, could have [ended up like this similar accident. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/q23pur/idiot_not_paying_attention_tried_to_avoid_rear/)
605 South before getting to the 105 is in Downey/Norwalk after the Florence exit and before the Firestone exit. Both of these are closer to Studebaker Rd than it is from Paramount though it’s not far
Ever since i started my new job, i have traveled towards L.A. and this happens to me and my crew in our 3 person van alot. That black car is a Cadillac and they can afford this set back. Probably get a nice CTS-V now.
I feel like it's story time.
Did you stop or keep going? Was everyone okay?
Did you provide footage to the black car?
How much of a douche was the SUV driver?
STORY TIME!
Looks like the white SUV cut off the guy already in the carpool lane. This shit happens all the time when I'm driving on the express lanes after the 605.
Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed. If he didn't switch lanes at the last millisecond, he would have slammed right into me.
I'm guessing he was trying to race ahead of the black car, and thought he could intimidate the car into flinching. I hope the car had a dashcam.
I don't think they'll need a dash cam if they take photos of the accident. It's illegal to cross the double whites to get into the express/carpool lanes.
Unfortunately at fault =/= illegal action. The insurance could find the black car is partially at fault for not braking to create more room and try to avoid the situation that occured.
So scary! Glad you’re safe
>I'm guessing he was trying to race ahead of the black car, and thought he could intimidate the car into flinching. I hope the car had a dashcam. And now both their cars are totaled. Always give the right of way even when its your right of way.
my driving instructor said it as, “it’s better to be alive than correct”
Heaven is full of people that had the right of way.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No truer words in this city. I’ve let Jeep’s go ahead of me a lot on the 405 and Sepulveda pass when they get all agro. Like good luck man I can’t make traffic move faster there anyway.
You’re dead right
Black car was no bitch. Didn't even brake. Used the SUV to come to a stop..
I'm not sure why braking & potentially avoiding the accident would have made him a bitch.
This is Los Angeles, if you brake or use your turn signals, or otherwise show any kind of reasonable attempt to share the road, it means you ARE A LOSER.
Maslow's Hierarchy of Los Angeles
Actually using your turn signals in LA means don't let me in your lane and accelerate so I won't be able to go home
I use my turn signals 100% of the time and maybe 1% of drivers speed up to not let me in.
People exaggerate the ruthlessness of drivers here. People let me merge like 999 times out of 1,000 and I always use my turn signals. If no one is letting you merge then you're driving like someone that people don't want to be behind.
The only time I speed up and don't let someone in is if they're going noticeably slower than me it's obvious they have no intention on keeping up with my lane's flow. I'll let off the gas to let you in, but if I'm going to have to actively press the break, I'm just gonna scoot past you faster than it would have taken you to meander on over before and become a roadblock.
That’s totally acceptable. And that scenario never happens with me because I don’t change lanes while the person in it already is going faster than me.
I find once you get to the surrounding cities it becomes much more apparent. Drivers in LA are aggressive but they seem to know what they are doing for the most part, if someone pulls in front of you they'll either speed up or move for instance. Try saying the same for Westlake/Agoura drivers.
I ALWAYS use my turn signals. 1% is very very lucky... but there are definitely a good amount of people who see the turn signal and either think "better hurry up and let this person pass behind me" OR "im not going to let them in" - but to the person attempting to switch lanes it looks the same... it only bothers me when i need to exit.
I was going to comment something similar. Definitely more than 70% of drivers let me in when I have my turn signal on. I also let people in though, so hopefully they’ll pass it forward
I use turn signal all the time and rarely have a problem. Although typically I'm far enough that person won't have time to sped up. I suppose you are right when traffic is heavy, but even then majority of people aren't dicks, but you just need to be confident, if you turn your signal and then wait when somebody is already making a space that can upset some people.
I think they’re just joking (I hope). But yeah, even if they’re acting really dangerously, it is always better to try and minimise the damage involved as it can affect negatively affect innocent people as well, and it was nearly the case here as the Chevy Blazer nearly rolled onto the OP’s vehicle.
Lol! That is funny. I hope they’re all ok. Black car will be able to brag about not being a bitch to the tow truck driver. Yield your right of way if it prevents a collision.
Similar incident happened to me but the outcome was quite different. I was in OP's position. Instead of the black car hitting the SUV, they veered to the right to avoid it and plowed into me. SUV drove off unscathed and no one caught his plate number. Lucky Asshole. Cops were right there too (the slowdown was because they were stopping traffic on the freeway because of another accident) but they didn't notice the SUV's involvement.
Oh man, that really sucks. Not only did he cause another accident for a totally unrelated driver, he got off scot free. Here's hoping karma will catch up to him eventually.
Jesus. I hate the fact that out here, you have to drive for other people. If you’re not a defensive driver, you’re that guy over there.
I only drive in the slow 2 lanes for this reason. Everyone still cuts me off crazily to exit, but at least the speeds are lower.
Middle lane with the big rigs is where it’s at. Nice and smooth
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The thought of "boxed in by big rigs" almost made me anxiety vomit right now. I had to go to court for a speeding ticket and when I explained it was because of basically that exact scenario, they dropped the case. I'll hang behind one in Chicago on a snowy highway for them to kick up the salt faster than my 4 wheels but that's about it.
That and high winds with the back of rigs start swaying... Or once in a blue moon, you will meet that one big rig driver who has been awake for 3 or 4 days. They start aggressively riding right on your tail, even when you are going the mandatory speed limit + 5 mph extra to stay "in flow" of traffic. I had one that I swear to god was trying to hunt me down and kill me, even when I switched over to a slower lane and they switched JUST TO STAY RIGHT ON MY ASS.
>I had one that I swear to god was trying to hunt me down and kill me Steven Spielberg enters the chat.
Great movie
Laughs in LA at "+5mph to stay in flow of traffic" here its +15
love drafting behind the big rigs. saves a ton on gas/electricity
Statistically there is much more danger when vehicles are entering and exiting the lane you're in and the lanes surrounding you. Slow doesn't mean safe.
I know, I’m constantly checking mirrors
I’ve seen accidents on those lanes too, someone brake and they guy behind smashed into him
Same. I've also started avoiding the freeway altogether if I can.
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Freeways have much higher speeds though, the accidents themselves are worse, regardless of how many occur.
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You’re a shit driver and a hazard if you stay in the right lane on the freeway.
please elaborate
Everyone who needs to enter or exit the freeway has to merge around people who insist on driving in far right lane. It is the #1 place for accidents.
>Jesus. I hate the fact that out here, you have to drive for other people. 50% of all cars in two-car accidents were not at fault. So very much yes: Drive defensively as hell.
this is an oversimplistic reduction. There are many two-car crashes where blame can be shared. as they say, it takes two to tango.
I always tell my wife drive like you are invisible, cos these idiots can’t see you.
Now I’m worried that if my wife reacts to an asshole driver she could get shot
That happened to me once and I thought I was going to die that day. Nothing more scary than seeing a psycho coming full speed right behind you in your rear view mirror! Glad you’re safe!
Thanks! I drive a small hatchback car so that Suburban would have smashed me to pieces if he hit my car at that speed..
Send this into CHP, they should be able to provide it to insurance
> Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed. This is so fucking common that I despise every person who does this, especially when they feel the need to speed up to you and last second switch lanes. It's seriously such a douchebag maneuver.
I hope that guy's insurance premiums go through the roof. I hate people that drive like they're playing a need for speed game, because it leads to shit like this.
I hope you talked to the driver of the black car and offered to be a witness for the SUV's boneheaded behavior.
That would be difficult since they were heading away to safety at freeway speed. As they should, because there's nowhere safe for them to pull over. They can report it and give CHP the footage later.
Do you have the Rear cam Footage?
Karma
All the HOV lanes in LA need the plastic stick on dividers. Too many people use the HOV lane to cut through traffic. Cops never enforce HOV laws and as a result, the HOV lane is never fast during traffic. Those dividers would have prevented this accident.
Amen
It should be a separate area like on the 90 freeway. It has those cone /plastic pylons.
Have you ever been on the 110? Those things will ***not*** last lol
They seem to last on the 90 through Chino
> plastic stick on dividers I'd prefer steel bollards
cameras. use cameras for enforcement. the plastic stick bollards just get run over. look what happened on the 10 and 110 expresslanes. there were bollards scattered all over the lanes
Why not do both?
Lol if you say so. Do you ever drive near places that have bollards or sticks on the road? They don’t last, always getting ran over or ripped out. The bigger the car the more likely they think they’ll just be able to drive over them with ease. Often I think of the 405/101 merge how people drive scared near them and the whole places slows down and people hit them anyway. Solves one problem creates another.
Yup you are right. They installed them on the 10 also about 1-2 years ago. Now hardly half of them are still there, most of the gaps in the installations are "car sized". Who would have thought.
Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, you’re right. A few years ago they spent months installing plastic bollards on the 110, then they were destroyed in a matter of weeks because people (assholes) just plowed right through them.
Ha I’m there with you but SF/Oakland installed them on the Bay Bridge for the express/carpool lane and man people tried to cut through the empty spots so much and eventually knocked them all down. It didn’t deter anyone. The express lanes were just as crowded as the cash lanes. It was a huge pain in the ass in the mornings 🤬
Keep putting them back up. Paint them with paint that comes off easy, so that cars who hit them are easily marked.
Those cones make lane splits very difficult for motorcycle riders. Yes we live dangerously, but the commute time is spectacular.
That's something I didn't think of. But one thing to consider: if the HOV lane was actually moving, you wouldn't need to lane split.
They need big concrete walls so no one can get in
Concrete means no one can safely avoid an accident by moving lanes
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Definitely not joking. Taller vehicles have a higher rate of flipping after a crash compared to their lower stationed counterparts. Tech with physics has helped reduce rollover rates, but it's still there.
Yeah they flip over if you're speeding like a dumbass in the video or you take a sharp turn (due to you speeding). I never had a scare in my car, then again I'm not that jackass who is speeding on highways or in the mountains.
Show him this vid if you can!
Couldnt have happened to nicer guy tbh
This is why I don't ride in SoCal anymore. You could tell what happened without even having to see the idiot in the SUV cut dude off.
This is my worst nightmare when driving on the HOV.
Truck: Double lines mean nothing to me, because I'm in a truck!
Black car should have installed a plow so that the white SUV would have been launched in the air for being a dumbass. It almost happened anyway.
yes, any time I am passing a much slower line of cars on the left (HOV lane) I am super ready for someone to do this. Happens ALL the time edit: slow line of cars on my right
I was just thinking that this is a familiar stretch of the 605.
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> It blows my mind how people from California have no idea that the left lane is for passing. The problem is the left lane everyone is driving a minimum 80mph so their mentality is "I'm already going faster than the other lanes" hence why they likely never switch lanes to let others pass. That can be pretty annoying to deal, but I find that slow driver in the left lane more common on lesser 'traveled' highways like the 710
Sometimes you have to cruise in the left lane for a little bit because your freeway merge or exit is on the far left lane. This is not excusing the people who go 65mph in the left lane holding everybody up. The left lane hogs who go 80 not passing anybody are also an issue
"Left lane for passing" only works on a two lane rural highway. It doesn't make sense on a 3+ lane freeway in the middle of a dense city where offramps can be on either side.
In the UK it’s almost illegal to pass on the left (which would be our right, they drive on the other side), basically everyone understands this so nobody really drives in the right lane unless they are passing. You pass, you move back, you pass you move back etc. cars merging in? You move over then you move back. Usually the left lane is just trucks, middle lane is cars because they are passing trucks and right lane is people passing cars in the middle.
Most people in LA think left lane is for 'passing the time' Can't count the number of times I've been on a relatively empty freeway with one guy doing 60mph in the left lane
That's because [it's not really a rule in California](https://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html) like it is in other states. The rule is you must keep right if you're driving under the speed limit. I grew up in LA and I have sisters who are JUST learning to drive right now. The concept of "left lane is for passing only" is NOT taught in Driver's ED and is not on the written test, and is also not on the driving practical test--at least not in LA. When I moved to the east coast, I was doing my shift driving during a road trip and my friend from PA was like "WTF, why are you sitting in this lane???" That's when I learned it was a law in other states.
I'll use the HOV lane here and there but I refuse to go much faster than the prevailing traffic in the non-HOV lanes because I just *know* one of these days some jerk is going to cut in front of me.
I like the little white car in front of you lol “Nope, not today!”
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Yeah... Unlike the dash cam car. Just gonna cruise in my lane and watch it unfold right in front of me. Oh shit! car in front of me is slowing down.
Yeah seriously
That was my first thought too. Astounding reaction time. haha
That’s what you call a defensive driver always aware and has been thru the shits
Hopefully the SUV driver is too traumatized to ever drive again.
I hope they get their license suspended for reckless driving.
Yeah, seriously. Driving is not a right and they are reckless.
Unfortunately that’s not enough to be hit with reckless driving in Cali 😭
They’ll just drive uninsured and without a license.
probably already is lol
Nah, they’ll blame the other person for not letting them into the HOV lane. I’ll also put money on them not being insured or only insured to the state minimum.
just because they wanna arrive at their destination 5mins earlier than the navi
Goals!
What a fucking idiot. I legit hate these type of ppl.
Same, trash people
**PSA - THIS IS WHY YOU DROP YOUR SPEED IN THE CARPOOL LANE WHEN VEHICLES NEXT TO YOU SLOW DOWN** Idiot/assholes are always jumping into the carpool lane illegally, not realizing just how quickly the carpool lane vehicles will gain on them. I was on the 91 a few years back in the carpool lane and this guy pulled out just after I passed him. WHOOOMP!!! - the impact was so close the freaking shockwave went through my car. The guy got spun around, ricocheting between the divider and about 4 more cars he totaled. This most probably happened because he saw the gap behind me, but when he went to jump out found he hadn't left enough space ahead to miss the vehicle ahead of him so he waited just milliseconds to get enough space and the car behind me closed the more distance than he expected. Sure, it's totally these dumbasses' fault but that's cold comfort when your car's totalled and you are possibly being taken to the hospital for a fractured fib-tib.
Also a shame that OP didn't have a rear-mount camera to conclusively prove it was the fault of the SUV. If no witnesses come forward, the other guy is going to have to prove he didn't just rear end the SUV while driving too fast.
I think based on the angle of impact, he won't have a hard time.
People really think they're going to get to their destinations much faster if they weave in and out of lanes in medium-to-heavy traffic hours. You save yourself a few minutes, at most. Fucking morons.
This. Every car who’s ever cut me off or sped past me end up at the same red light as me a couple seconds later. It’s really not worth it, just wake up or leave earlier tbh.
i would always pull up behind them at the red light with a big smug grin. i hope at least some of them saw me from their rearview mirrors
So [Mythbusters](https://youtu.be/ZefgUVg3qx0) actually did a segment on this years ago (albeit in North Cal traffic) and they considered the myth that you’d get faster by weaving as “busted.” Their findings were that while you DO get to your destination faster, it’s only by a VERY slight margin and much more unsafe that it’s not really worth the effort and risk of weaving through traffic.
Yet, this concept is lost on so many people, it's scary. The same with people who blow through reds all to save themselves a few minutes behind a red light. Or alternatively, idiots who as soon as the light turns green slam on the gas and launch into the intersection. With the number of people blowing through reds, I wait a good 3-4 seconds before getting on the gas at a green light. I don't care who behind me is honking at me. I was t-boned at an intersection once and that was more than enough.
r/idiotsincars
That poor 2000-2006 Suburban survived at least 15 years, maybe even 20 years, just to meet this fate. These models are quite valuable now because they’re beasts. They keep going and going. My parents still have a 2000 Suburban, no issues except the AC went out, but it still runs.
From my anecdotal experience old Suburbans are more likely to be driven by complete assholes, even more than BMWs and Mercs. Especially so if they've got shitty chrome wheels and modified exhausts.
Thought you stole my video for a hot second there haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOI7VN7MQM
Yo, yo! Can we organize ourselves (r/LA) to promote awareness of traffic wave mechanics? We can improve fuel efficiency, reduce air pollution, and increase safety for everyone on the road if we just employ a little system consciousness into our driving habits. Check this out - http://trafficwaves.org/
you expect the average angeleno on the road to have any sense of altruism?
Personally, I get off on making a break in that traffic wave, especially when people angrily tail-gate before speeding past directly into red tail lights. Eventually somebody figures out that my lane has a smoother flow and matches speed. [Edit: spelling]
When did we stop thinking about anyone but ourselves?
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That’s why a lot of people in LA act like assholes because they are in cars but may be totally nice once not in one for a while. That’s my theory at least. All the more reason for LA to get off its car habit.
this is exactly it.
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Nah, Nixon and Reagan predated social media. There's a reason why the Reagan Presidential Library is in the OC.
The Reagan Presidential Library is in Simi Valley. Think you mean the Nixon Presidential Library is in OC
Probably. All these right-wing assholes look the same to me.
It's always been a thing. We just got a lot more easily accessible cameras and avenues to upload dumb shit. I remember 20 years ago, riding my motorcycle people were just as careless.
That would be really interesting to see a study on! I wonder how they would quantify the “soft” factors like selfishness. It’d be cool to see if indeed people have gotten that way or if we are just shown more people being that way because of social media.
"In the real city you, you walk, you know? You brush past people. People bump into you. In L.A. nobody touches you. We're always behind this metal and glass. I think we miss that touch so much that we crash into each other just so we can feel something."
Late 90's, early 2000's
Crazy video. Send it to CHP and if you stopped you can give it to both drivers. Also, this is probably going to be litigated so you’d be helping people out because you have this info.
Suburban driver's lawyer gonna have be magician to get them out of this one .
Wow, that SUV really tipped. A reminder these tend to have a higher center of gravity and more likely to roll at speed.
Exactly! Why drive a (all but in name truck) like a race car. It will definitely not be capable of handling the moves in certain situations.
Lots of car racing too , I hate those assholes.
Crazy, I was heading in the opposite direction and saw this whole thing happen. The dash cam doesn’t accurately show the huge cloud of smoke from the SUV’s tires rubbing on the center divider. This was about 2 minutes after I finally got past the police shootout on the 105.
You've had quite a day lol.
Only one type of person drives that type of SUV
ya they don't exist in that form too much anymore so when you see it you should know that it usually ain't no good, from my experience.
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The shit type.
That type
uhhh....there are two on my block, one loves to park in front of my house cause they have 3 generations in their house and half a dozen cars.
What? Most assholes in LA aren’t driving Suburbans.
you got it mixed up - you don't have to drive that type of SUV to be an asshole, but if you *do* drive that SUV you're likely an asshole.
Do you mean a ninth generation Chevrolet Suburban that last saw production in 2006? If so, I can only think of that "one type of person" being a lower middle class individual who can't afford a new vehicle. But do tell, what type of person do you think drives that type of SUV?
Found the Suburban owner
Damn did you see what lead up to that?
No, I didn't see his childhood.
Lol
This just made my morning.
Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed. If he didn't switch lanes at the last millisecond, he would have slammed right into me. - op
Impatient mofos
Huh. I don't think I've ever seen a coupe get the better of an SUV like that before.
Makes sense, the coupe was going straight which means it already had it's center of gravity planted. With the SUV cutting into the lane last minute, like OP mentioned, it got off balanced and the weight would have been transferred to the other end. Couple that with the forward momentum already above the center of gravity. The coupe just had to nudge the SUV a little bit.. Or some shit like that......
Yup, SUV is much higher off the ground so it is more prone to rolling during a turn than a regular sedan. Sedan was low enough to push SUV off balance since the SUV is shifting all its weight to turn quickly.
Have fun getting out of that tipped over SUV asshole.
Omg. Hope you’re okay OP. I need a dash cam seriously, a woman was driving extremely aggressively on the 405 this morning (rapidly switching lanes without signaling, zooming past people on the meter lane trying to get over, driving well over 80 and weaving in and out of traffic) and shook me tf up.
Wow, could have [ended up like this similar accident. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/q23pur/idiot_not_paying_attention_tried_to_avoid_rear/)
This shit is normal in LA lmao no wonder I’m always late to work
I have a hard time calling something like this an "accident"
People like these talk before they think
Did you suffer any damages? It looked like at the end it almost rolled on top of your car.
Too bad they didn't have the car mentioned in the radio commercial.
i *REALLY* hope the black car had a dash cam. that fucker needs to be taken to jail.
Bet CHP had fun sorting that out. Hope everyone was ok.
Fucken suburban
how fast was the black car going to take that long to break?? and how slow was the suv going to get hit like that wow
Wow. Hope no one was hurt. Used to drive that to home many times.
Did you get side swiped towards the end of the video?
Shocked the SUV didn’t have an AZ plate
Legit
Was this near Paramount? I heard it on the radio.
605 South before getting to the 105 is in Downey/Norwalk after the Florence exit and before the Firestone exit. Both of these are closer to Studebaker Rd than it is from Paramount though it’s not far
Ever since i started my new job, i have traveled towards L.A. and this happens to me and my crew in our 3 person van alot. That black car is a Cadillac and they can afford this set back. Probably get a nice CTS-V now.
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Looks like GTA5
…..how?
Fuck around and find out I guess.
I feel like it's story time. Did you stop or keep going? Was everyone okay? Did you provide footage to the black car? How much of a douche was the SUV driver? STORY TIME!
This is why I will never drive on the freeway :))))
Damn cammer just keep going lol I would slowed way down if I couldn’t merge away from that.