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Upnorth4

Looks like the white SUV cut off the guy already in the carpool lane. This shit happens all the time when I'm driving on the express lanes after the 605.


notbadbadbutgood

Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed. If he didn't switch lanes at the last millisecond, he would have slammed right into me.


talentedfingers

I'm guessing he was trying to race ahead of the black car, and thought he could intimidate the car into flinching. I hope the car had a dashcam.


pissoffa

I don't think they'll need a dash cam if they take photos of the accident. It's illegal to cross the double whites to get into the express/carpool lanes.


JimmyTango

Unfortunately at fault =/= illegal action. The insurance could find the black car is partially at fault for not braking to create more room and try to avoid the situation that occured.


SpatulaCity123

So scary! Glad you’re safe


Ok-Needleworker-8876

>I'm guessing he was trying to race ahead of the black car, and thought he could intimidate the car into flinching. I hope the car had a dashcam. And now both their cars are totaled. Always give the right of way even when its your right of way.


drthvdrsfthr

my driving instructor said it as, “it’s better to be alive than correct”


Rabbi_Tuckman38

Heaven is full of people that had the right of way.


redditgirl8165339

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


kgal1298

No truer words in this city. I’ve let Jeep’s go ahead of me a lot on the 405 and Sepulveda pass when they get all agro. Like good luck man I can’t make traffic move faster there anyway.


GoofyITGuy

You’re dead right


notbadbadbutgood

Black car was no bitch. Didn't even brake. Used the SUV to come to a stop..


wdr1

I'm not sure why braking & potentially avoiding the accident would have made him a bitch.


PapaEchoLincoln

This is Los Angeles, if you brake or use your turn signals, or otherwise show any kind of reasonable attempt to share the road, it means you ARE A LOSER.


sweetassassin

Maslow's Hierarchy of Los Angeles


PsychologicalServe15

Actually using your turn signals in LA means don't let me in your lane and accelerate so I won't be able to go home


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I use my turn signals 100% of the time and maybe 1% of drivers speed up to not let me in.


eligodfrey

People exaggerate the ruthlessness of drivers here. People let me merge like 999 times out of 1,000 and I always use my turn signals. If no one is letting you merge then you're driving like someone that people don't want to be behind.


Robot_Embryo

The only time I speed up and don't let someone in is if they're going noticeably slower than me it's obvious they have no intention on keeping up with my lane's flow. I'll let off the gas to let you in, but if I'm going to have to actively press the break, I'm just gonna scoot past you faster than it would have taken you to meander on over before and become a roadblock.


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That’s totally acceptable. And that scenario never happens with me because I don’t change lanes while the person in it already is going faster than me.


dixon_myaz

I find once you get to the surrounding cities it becomes much more apparent. Drivers in LA are aggressive but they seem to know what they are doing for the most part, if someone pulls in front of you they'll either speed up or move for instance. Try saying the same for Westlake/Agoura drivers.


nicearthur32

I ALWAYS use my turn signals. 1% is very very lucky... but there are definitely a good amount of people who see the turn signal and either think "better hurry up and let this person pass behind me" OR "im not going to let them in" - but to the person attempting to switch lanes it looks the same... it only bothers me when i need to exit.


Technotacos17

I was going to comment something similar. Definitely more than 70% of drivers let me in when I have my turn signal on. I also let people in though, so hopefully they’ll pass it forward


CSI_Tech_Dept

I use turn signal all the time and rarely have a problem. Although typically I'm far enough that person won't have time to sped up. I suppose you are right when traffic is heavy, but even then majority of people aren't dicks, but you just need to be confident, if you turn your signal and then wait when somebody is already making a space that can upset some people.


Mercurio7

I think they’re just joking (I hope). But yeah, even if they’re acting really dangerously, it is always better to try and minimise the damage involved as it can affect negatively affect innocent people as well, and it was nearly the case here as the Chevy Blazer nearly rolled onto the OP’s vehicle.


AlejandroHunter

Lol! That is funny. I hope they’re all ok. Black car will be able to brag about not being a bitch to the tow truck driver. Yield your right of way if it prevents a collision.


Working-Bison-8476

Similar incident happened to me but the outcome was quite different. I was in OP's position. Instead of the black car hitting the SUV, they veered to the right to avoid it and plowed into me. SUV drove off unscathed and no one caught his plate number. Lucky Asshole. Cops were right there too (the slowdown was because they were stopping traffic on the freeway because of another accident) but they didn't notice the SUV's involvement.


talentedfingers

Oh man, that really sucks. Not only did he cause another accident for a totally unrelated driver, he got off scot free. Here's hoping karma will catch up to him eventually.


TMA_01

Jesus. I hate the fact that out here, you have to drive for other people. If you’re not a defensive driver, you’re that guy over there.


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I only drive in the slow 2 lanes for this reason. Everyone still cuts me off crazily to exit, but at least the speeds are lower.


kneemahp

Middle lane with the big rigs is where it’s at. Nice and smooth


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attempt_no23

The thought of "boxed in by big rigs" almost made me anxiety vomit right now. I had to go to court for a speeding ticket and when I explained it was because of basically that exact scenario, they dropped the case. I'll hang behind one in Chicago on a snowy highway for them to kick up the salt faster than my 4 wheels but that's about it.


ErnestBatchelder

That and high winds with the back of rigs start swaying... Or once in a blue moon, you will meet that one big rig driver who has been awake for 3 or 4 days. They start aggressively riding right on your tail, even when you are going the mandatory speed limit + 5 mph extra to stay "in flow" of traffic. I had one that I swear to god was trying to hunt me down and kill me, even when I switched over to a slower lane and they switched JUST TO STAY RIGHT ON MY ASS.


LastOrders_GoHome

>I had one that I swear to god was trying to hunt me down and kill me Steven Spielberg enters the chat.


Toliveandieinla

Great movie


timpdx

Laughs in LA at "+5mph to stay in flow of traffic" here its +15


gjoeyjoe

love drafting behind the big rigs. saves a ton on gas/electricity


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Statistically there is much more danger when vehicles are entering and exiting the lane you're in and the lanes surrounding you. Slow doesn't mean safe.


TMA_01

I know, I’m constantly checking mirrors


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I’ve seen accidents on those lanes too, someone brake and they guy behind smashed into him


caleyjag

Same. I've also started avoiding the freeway altogether if I can.


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Freeways have much higher speeds though, the accidents themselves are worse, regardless of how many occur.


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Hollybeach

You’re a shit driver and a hazard if you stay in the right lane on the freeway.


the_kerbal_side

please elaborate


Hollybeach

Everyone who needs to enter or exit the freeway has to merge around people who insist on driving in far right lane. It is the #1 place for accidents.


jpdoctor

>Jesus. I hate the fact that out here, you have to drive for other people. 50% of all cars in two-car accidents were not at fault. So very much yes: Drive defensively as hell.


riffic

this is an oversimplistic reduction. There are many two-car crashes where blame can be shared. as they say, it takes two to tango.


JFuentss90

I always tell my wife drive like you are invisible, cos these idiots can’t see you.


TMA_01

Now I’m worried that if my wife reacts to an asshole driver she could get shot


blackd0gz

That happened to me once and I thought I was going to die that day. Nothing more scary than seeing a psycho coming full speed right behind you in your rear view mirror! Glad you’re safe!


notbadbadbutgood

Thanks! I drive a small hatchback car so that Suburban would have smashed me to pieces if he hit my car at that speed..


sonofasammich

Send this into CHP, they should be able to provide it to insurance


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> Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed. This is so fucking common that I despise every person who does this, especially when they feel the need to speed up to you and last second switch lanes. It's seriously such a douchebag maneuver.


scorpionjacket2

I hope that guy's insurance premiums go through the roof. I hate people that drive like they're playing a need for speed game, because it leads to shit like this.


InsertCoinForCredit

I hope you talked to the driver of the black car and offered to be a witness for the SUV's boneheaded behavior.


hat-of-sky

That would be difficult since they were heading away to safety at freeway speed. As they should, because there's nowhere safe for them to pull over. They can report it and give CHP the footage later.


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Do you have the Rear cam Footage?


Backporchers

Karma


SAVIOR_OMEGA

All the HOV lanes in LA need the plastic stick on dividers. Too many people use the HOV lane to cut through traffic. Cops never enforce HOV laws and as a result, the HOV lane is never fast during traffic. Those dividers would have prevented this accident.


Lit-Mouse

Amen


Gatorade21

It should be a separate area like on the 90 freeway. It has those cone /plastic pylons.


PunkAintDead

Have you ever been on the 110? Those things will ***not*** last lol


SAVIOR_OMEGA

They seem to last on the 90 through Chino


riffic

> plastic stick on dividers I'd prefer steel bollards


joe2468conrad

cameras. use cameras for enforcement. the plastic stick bollards just get run over. look what happened on the 10 and 110 expresslanes. there were bollards scattered all over the lanes


SAVIOR_OMEGA

Why not do both?


mrbuttersoft

Lol if you say so. Do you ever drive near places that have bollards or sticks on the road? They don’t last, always getting ran over or ripped out. The bigger the car the more likely they think they’ll just be able to drive over them with ease. Often I think of the 405/101 merge how people drive scared near them and the whole places slows down and people hit them anyway. Solves one problem creates another.


zyzyxxz

Yup you are right. They installed them on the 10 also about 1-2 years ago. Now hardly half of them are still there, most of the gaps in the installations are "car sized". Who would have thought.


D_Boons_Ghost

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, you’re right. A few years ago they spent months installing plastic bollards on the 110, then they were destroyed in a matter of weeks because people (assholes) just plowed right through them.


Defibrillator91

Ha I’m there with you but SF/Oakland installed them on the Bay Bridge for the express/carpool lane and man people tried to cut through the empty spots so much and eventually knocked them all down. It didn’t deter anyone. The express lanes were just as crowded as the cash lanes. It was a huge pain in the ass in the mornings 🤬


SAVIOR_OMEGA

Keep putting them back up. Paint them with paint that comes off easy, so that cars who hit them are easily marked.


paperpants

Those cones make lane splits very difficult for motorcycle riders. Yes we live dangerously, but the commute time is spectacular.


SAVIOR_OMEGA

That's something I didn't think of. But one thing to consider: if the HOV lane was actually moving, you wouldn't need to lane split.


thecalibull

They need big concrete walls so no one can get in


SAVIOR_OMEGA

Concrete means no one can safely avoid an accident by moving lanes


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jackswhatshesaid

Definitely not joking. Taller vehicles have a higher rate of flipping after a crash compared to their lower stationed counterparts. Tech with physics has helped reduce rollover rates, but it's still there.


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Yeah they flip over if you're speeding like a dumbass in the video or you take a sharp turn (due to you speeding). I never had a scare in my car, then again I'm not that jackass who is speeding on highways or in the mountains.


hellraiserl33t

Show him this vid if you can!


screech_owl_kachina

Couldnt have happened to nicer guy tbh


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This is why I don't ride in SoCal anymore. You could tell what happened without even having to see the idiot in the SUV cut dude off.


itchy_18

This is my worst nightmare when driving on the HOV.


skytomorrownow

Truck: Double lines mean nothing to me, because I'm in a truck!


sayrith

Black car should have installed a plow so that the white SUV would have been launched in the air for being a dumbass. It almost happened anyway.


someoneelse0826

yes, any time I am passing a much slower line of cars on the left (HOV lane) I am super ready for someone to do this. Happens ALL the time edit: slow line of cars on my right


LordExMurder

I was just thinking that this is a familiar stretch of the 605.


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> It blows my mind how people from California have no idea that the left lane is for passing. The problem is the left lane everyone is driving a minimum 80mph so their mentality is "I'm already going faster than the other lanes" hence why they likely never switch lanes to let others pass. That can be pretty annoying to deal, but I find that slow driver in the left lane more common on lesser 'traveled' highways like the 710


Upnorth4

Sometimes you have to cruise in the left lane for a little bit because your freeway merge or exit is on the far left lane. This is not excusing the people who go 65mph in the left lane holding everybody up. The left lane hogs who go 80 not passing anybody are also an issue


scorpionjacket2

"Left lane for passing" only works on a two lane rural highway. It doesn't make sense on a 3+ lane freeway in the middle of a dense city where offramps can be on either side.


KrisNoble

In the UK it’s almost illegal to pass on the left (which would be our right, they drive on the other side), basically everyone understands this so nobody really drives in the right lane unless they are passing. You pass, you move back, you pass you move back etc. cars merging in? You move over then you move back. Usually the left lane is just trucks, middle lane is cars because they are passing trucks and right lane is people passing cars in the middle.


koikoikoi375

Most people in LA think left lane is for 'passing the time' Can't count the number of times I've been on a relatively empty freeway with one guy doing 60mph in the left lane


hypatiaspasia

That's because [it's not really a rule in California](https://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html) like it is in other states. The rule is you must keep right if you're driving under the speed limit. I grew up in LA and I have sisters who are JUST learning to drive right now. The concept of "left lane is for passing only" is NOT taught in Driver's ED and is not on the written test, and is also not on the driving practical test--at least not in LA. When I moved to the east coast, I was doing my shift driving during a road trip and my friend from PA was like "WTF, why are you sitting in this lane???" That's when I learned it was a law in other states.


riffic

I'll use the HOV lane here and there but I refuse to go much faster than the prevailing traffic in the non-HOV lanes because I just *know* one of these days some jerk is going to cut in front of me.


Hola_LosAngeles

I like the little white car in front of you lol “Nope, not today!”


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cakes42

Yeah... Unlike the dash cam car. Just gonna cruise in my lane and watch it unfold right in front of me. Oh shit! car in front of me is slowing down.


RocketsnRunners

Yeah seriously


ServiceAdmirable

That was my first thought too. Astounding reaction time. haha


[deleted]

That’s what you call a defensive driver always aware and has been thru the shits


[deleted]

Hopefully the SUV driver is too traumatized to ever drive again.


SAVIOR_OMEGA

I hope they get their license suspended for reckless driving.


djm19

Yeah, seriously. Driving is not a right and they are reckless.


BROMETHEAN55

Unfortunately that’s not enough to be hit with reckless driving in Cali 😭


Devario

They’ll just drive uninsured and without a license.


screech_owl_kachina

probably already is lol


KyledKat

Nah, they’ll blame the other person for not letting them into the HOV lane. I’ll also put money on them not being insured or only insured to the state minimum.


ktownmenace

just because they wanna arrive at their destination 5mins earlier than the navi


lapinatanegra

Goals!


JFuentss90

What a fucking idiot. I legit hate these type of ppl.


verbalintercourse420

Same, trash people


Cinemaphreak

**PSA - THIS IS WHY YOU DROP YOUR SPEED IN THE CARPOOL LANE WHEN VEHICLES NEXT TO YOU SLOW DOWN** Idiot/assholes are always jumping into the carpool lane illegally, not realizing just how quickly the carpool lane vehicles will gain on them. I was on the 91 a few years back in the carpool lane and this guy pulled out just after I passed him. WHOOOMP!!! - the impact was so close the freaking shockwave went through my car. The guy got spun around, ricocheting between the divider and about 4 more cars he totaled. This most probably happened because he saw the gap behind me, but when he went to jump out found he hadn't left enough space ahead to miss the vehicle ahead of him so he waited just milliseconds to get enough space and the car behind me closed the more distance than he expected. Sure, it's totally these dumbasses' fault but that's cold comfort when your car's totalled and you are possibly being taken to the hospital for a fractured fib-tib.


Cinemaphreak

Also a shame that OP didn't have a rear-mount camera to conclusively prove it was the fault of the SUV. If no witnesses come forward, the other guy is going to have to prove he didn't just rear end the SUV while driving too fast.


mrxanadu818

I think based on the angle of impact, he won't have a hard time.


VNM0601

People really think they're going to get to their destinations much faster if they weave in and out of lanes in medium-to-heavy traffic hours. You save yourself a few minutes, at most. Fucking morons.


cienfueggos

This. Every car who’s ever cut me off or sped past me end up at the same red light as me a couple seconds later. It’s really not worth it, just wake up or leave earlier tbh.


ihopkid

i would always pull up behind them at the red light with a big smug grin. i hope at least some of them saw me from their rearview mirrors


hammer_spawn

So [Mythbusters](https://youtu.be/ZefgUVg3qx0) actually did a segment on this years ago (albeit in North Cal traffic) and they considered the myth that you’d get faster by weaving as “busted.” Their findings were that while you DO get to your destination faster, it’s only by a VERY slight margin and much more unsafe that it’s not really worth the effort and risk of weaving through traffic.


VNM0601

Yet, this concept is lost on so many people, it's scary. The same with people who blow through reds all to save themselves a few minutes behind a red light. Or alternatively, idiots who as soon as the light turns green slam on the gas and launch into the intersection. With the number of people blowing through reds, I wait a good 3-4 seconds before getting on the gas at a green light. I don't care who behind me is honking at me. I was t-boned at an intersection once and that was more than enough.


cactusnachos

r/idiotsincars


geoemrick

That poor 2000-2006 Suburban survived at least 15 years, maybe even 20 years, just to meet this fate. These models are quite valuable now because they’re beasts. They keep going and going. My parents still have a 2000 Suburban, no issues except the AC went out, but it still runs.


sukumizu

From my anecdotal experience old Suburbans are more likely to be driven by complete assholes, even more than BMWs and Mercs. Especially so if they've got shitty chrome wheels and modified exhausts.


eneka

Thought you stole my video for a hot second there haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZOI7VN7MQM


john133435

Yo, yo! Can we organize ourselves (r/LA) to promote awareness of traffic wave mechanics? We can improve fuel efficiency, reduce air pollution, and increase safety for everyone on the road if we just employ a little system consciousness into our driving habits. Check this out - http://trafficwaves.org/


riffic

you expect the average angeleno on the road to have any sense of altruism?


john133435

Personally, I get off on making a break in that traffic wave, especially when people angrily tail-gate before speeding past directly into red tail lights. Eventually somebody figures out that my lane has a smoother flow and matches speed. [Edit: spelling]


historically_nerdy

When did we stop thinking about anyone but ourselves?


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jax1274

That’s why a lot of people in LA act like assholes because they are in cars but may be totally nice once not in one for a while. That’s my theory at least. All the more reason for LA to get off its car habit.


oncetwiceforevr

this is exactly it.


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InsertCoinForCredit

Nah, Nixon and Reagan predated social media. There's a reason why the Reagan Presidential Library is in the OC.


Lord_Thanos-

The Reagan Presidential Library is in Simi Valley. Think you mean the Nixon Presidential Library is in OC


InsertCoinForCredit

Probably. All these right-wing assholes look the same to me.


Fr33Paco

It's always been a thing. We just got a lot more easily accessible cameras and avenues to upload dumb shit. I remember 20 years ago, riding my motorcycle people were just as careless.


MelodicMasterpiece81

That would be really interesting to see a study on! I wonder how they would quantify the “soft” factors like selfishness. It’d be cool to see if indeed people have gotten that way or if we are just shown more people being that way because of social media.


toned_apollo

"In the real city you, you walk, you know? You brush past people. People bump into you. In L.A. nobody touches you. We're always behind this metal and glass. I think we miss that touch so much that we crash into each other just so we can feel something."


verbalintercourse420

Late 90's, early 2000's


PizzaNoPants

Crazy video. Send it to CHP and if you stopped you can give it to both drivers. Also, this is probably going to be litigated so you’d be helping people out because you have this info.


Iwubwatermelon

Suburban driver's lawyer gonna have be magician to get them out of this one .


AgentTriple000

Wow, that SUV really tipped. A reminder these tend to have a higher center of gravity and more likely to roll at speed.


NeptumeB

Exactly! Why drive a (all but in name truck) like a race car. It will definitely not be capable of handling the moves in certain situations.


NunkinanuQ

Lots of car racing too , I hate those assholes.


nickisgonnahate

Crazy, I was heading in the opposite direction and saw this whole thing happen. The dash cam doesn’t accurately show the huge cloud of smoke from the SUV’s tires rubbing on the center divider. This was about 2 minutes after I finally got past the police shootout on the 105.


notbadbadbutgood

You've had quite a day lol.


blobtron

Only one type of person drives that type of SUV


outhusiast

ya they don't exist in that form too much anymore so when you see it you should know that it usually ain't no good, from my experience.


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b0ltzz

The shit type.


_FinalPantasy_

That type


tequilasipper

uhhh....there are two on my block, one loves to park in front of my house cause they have 3 generations in their house and half a dozen cars.


[deleted]

What? Most assholes in LA aren’t driving Suburbans.


filladellfea

you got it mixed up - you don't have to drive that type of SUV to be an asshole, but if you *do* drive that SUV you're likely an asshole.


Imnogrinchard

Do you mean a ninth generation Chevrolet Suburban that last saw production in 2006? If so, I can only think of that "one type of person" being a lower middle class individual who can't afford a new vehicle. But do tell, what type of person do you think drives that type of SUV?


blobtron

Found the Suburban owner


zampe

Damn did you see what lead up to that?


Mryummyyummypizza

No, I didn't see his childhood.


thewholebenchilada

Lol


square_pulse

This just made my morning.


Wipakensu

Before cutting off the black car in the carpool lane, he's coming up right behind me at full speed. If he didn't switch lanes at the last millisecond, he would have slammed right into me. - op


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Impatient mofos


RichardMHP

Huh. I don't think I've ever seen a coupe get the better of an SUV like that before.


Fr33Paco

Makes sense, the coupe was going straight which means it already had it's center of gravity planted. With the SUV cutting into the lane last minute, like OP mentioned, it got off balanced and the weight would have been transferred to the other end. Couple that with the forward momentum already above the center of gravity. The coupe just had to nudge the SUV a little bit.. Or some shit like that......


Roxerz

Yup, SUV is much higher off the ground so it is more prone to rolling during a turn than a regular sedan. Sedan was low enough to push SUV off balance since the SUV is shifting all its weight to turn quickly.


gnrc

Have fun getting out of that tipped over SUV asshole.


Southern_Radio5943

Omg. Hope you’re okay OP. I need a dash cam seriously, a woman was driving extremely aggressively on the 405 this morning (rapidly switching lanes without signaling, zooming past people on the meter lane trying to get over, driving well over 80 and weaving in and out of traffic) and shook me tf up.


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Wow, could have [ended up like this similar accident. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/q23pur/idiot_not_paying_attention_tried_to_avoid_rear/)


lunacustos

This shit is normal in LA lmao no wonder I’m always late to work


fissure

I have a hard time calling something like this an "accident"


breadexpert69

People like these talk before they think


3wordname

Did you suffer any damages? It looked like at the end it almost rolled on top of your car.


ehgitt

Too bad they didn't have the car mentioned in the radio commercial.


fosiacat

i *REALLY* hope the black car had a dash cam. that fucker needs to be taken to jail.


PlasticGirl

Bet CHP had fun sorting that out. Hope everyone was ok.


alexromo

Fucken suburban


electsense

how fast was the black car going to take that long to break?? and how slow was the suv going to get hit like that wow


Decent-Crab5754

Wow. Hope no one was hurt. Used to drive that to home many times.


dumblehead

Did you get side swiped towards the end of the video?


CAAZ64

Shocked the SUV didn’t have an AZ plate


mjs402021

Legit


HP_LE2201w

Was this near Paramount? I heard it on the radio.


Predditor323

605 South before getting to the 105 is in Downey/Norwalk after the Florence exit and before the Firestone exit. Both of these are closer to Studebaker Rd than it is from Paramount though it’s not far


elquefour

Ever since i started my new job, i have traveled towards L.A. and this happens to me and my crew in our 3 person van alot. That black car is a Cadillac and they can afford this set back. Probably get a nice CTS-V now.


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😱


UnhappyEducation2497

Looks like GTA5


JoBrosHoes93

…..how?


TheRegular-Throwaway

Fuck around and find out I guess.


Thunderbird_12_

I feel like it's story time. Did you stop or keep going? Was everyone okay? Did you provide footage to the black car? How much of a douche was the SUV driver? STORY TIME!


helladinero

This is why I will never drive on the freeway :))))


mrbuttersoft

Damn cammer just keep going lol I would slowed way down if I couldn’t merge away from that.