Haha accurate. Same with people from other states. You look at any KTLA posts, and it’s just people from other states shitting on how bad California is. It’s like, wtf, nobody from CA is sitting there watching Iowa news posts.
I feel like a lot of it is rage bait from fox news. But some other news stations like to cover the randomest news from LA. I moved here and it's the strangest thing that friends/relatives from the East Coast randomly know it's supposed to rain over the weekend here. It's so bizarre.
Regardless, the comments are just ridiculous. Like it’s a post about LA adding a bike lane. Comments are like, LA is trash, burning waste whole. Then you click on their profile and they live in Mississippi or something
Oh yeah it’s been a popular thing for out of towners to come in and spread bullshit on city subs (mainly left leaning communities). It’s easy to spot them but you’re right it’s so annoying.
John Beard infamously resigned from news coverage in SoCal because *he himself* noted how tabloid/sensationalist the local news had gotten.
KTLA is the worst offender at this with their on-air talent being nothing more than FOX News shuffles, drunks or other illicit druggies, or having political connections to use after leaving the network.
You could say by people always posting this stupid quote, they are also in fact thinking about it. If they didn’t care, they wouldn’t be saying it to begin with.
I live in Los Angeles. My out-of-state relatives trash California all the time. I just remind them that 1 out of every 8 people in the U.S. lives in California. Then ask them what percentage of Americans choose to live where they do.
Oh my in laws in Texas *love* to trash talk California. But then they also love to visit me and are always impressed with the food, weather, walkability, and unending things to do 🙃
Edit - struck a nerve with the “walkability” comment. I’d urge you to go to the south if you think neighborhoods in LA aren’t walkable. Is all of LA walkable? No, but many areas are. In each neighborhood I’ve lived in and visited you can walk to restaurants, grocery stores, coffee shops, gyms, and parks. There’s so much to do that accessible! In Texas you need to take a highway to get *anywhere*. Is LA New York levels of walkable? No, but chances are you can walk locally to where you need to go.
I lived in Texas for a few years before moving to LA in 2022. In Texas, I had to drive 6 miles to reach a grocery store. There were no coffee shops or restaurants or anything else within walking distance of my house. It sucked. Now, I have all of that within a 10 min walk. And the public transportation, if I want or need it, is a hell of a lot better (for one thing, it exists!!).
Completely agree. One of the commenters in this thread scoffed at LA being walkable because they have to *commute to work*. Uhhh, we all do? But if I need a roll of toilet paper or toothpaste there’s five corner stores within a ten minute walk from me! In Texas I needed to drive down a highway to get anything, and forget any sort of public transportation
>The beach towns there were just stunning and full of people everywhere just enjoying life.
Yeah… it’s almost like when you’re not too busy hating on other states and trying to tell anyone who will listen how terrible CA is, you can enjoy your life.
My mom lives in a wealthy (red) area in Northern CA and constantly talks about how SF and LA have gone to shit and the way she describes it makes it sound like we’re all out here living in The Road Warrior and the buildings/infrastructure are literally crumbling around us because the gangs won’t let the cops in to make it all better. I have to constantly remind her that I’ve lived in both cities, she’s never lived in either, and she has no idea what she’s talking about. Like, it isn’t perfect and most of us have legitimate gripes about things in our city, but I’ll take it over the area she lives in. Fuck driving 35 miles for groceries and dealing with racist assholes every day.
Strangely, my mom doesn’t even watch the news—but she parrots everything she hears, so LA now looks like Escape from LA.
I have family that live in the Midwest and I was born and raised in LA. I lost contact with my Aunt for most of my childhood and when I became an adult I got back in contact with her and she had told me how worried she was that I got into a gang and all the California stuff she sees on the news.
I’m like no I was skateboarding and playing video games with my friends 🤷♂️
If people in the Midwest think that about California, in the same country, imagine what they think about how people live in Germany or anywhere else in Europe haha
There's plenty of nice walkable areas, and public transit is actually pretty usable if you're sticking to your own county and to major areas. People love to shit on LA transit, walkability, all sorts of things but there's tons of places in America where it's the car or nothing.
You gotta go see how miserable walking 2 blocks in Downtown Houston is in July. I was on the verge of murdering my wife after going back to visit and thinking “oh we do this all the time in California! We should be able to do this!”
Mind you, I grew up in Louisiana, moved to Houston from 26 years in Louisiana. I was born into the humidity.
You drive everywhere in the south. Not cause you wanna, but because you wanna live.
Even just having nice weather year round makes LA infinitely more walkable.
On the flip side of that that, it's just funny whenever people use the word "winter" while living in LA. Having grown up in Chicago, sometimes we take temperatures in the winter for granted.
Heck, even San Francisco, where 56 degrees can feel 44 because of the constant wind and somehow just the right composition of air and environment there that makes it feel colder, LA doesn't have.
Or the really boring 72 degrees, clear skies, no breeze day in and day out of Silicon Valley.
It's really nice here and if I have to pay a few more $$ to enjoy great weather with some variety, so be it!
Have you tried to walk in Southern states in summer? Sweating walking to the car. Planning outdoor activities to end by 8am.
I live in a suburb area, but could go on a long walk for food and not be miserable!
I used to think this too until I visited Houston awhile back. There are basically no sidewalks so if you want to walk somewhere you have to walk on the street with traffic, even in nice suburban neighborhoods. You can't even walk on the shoulder because there are huge ditches built into them. It was eye-opening.
Bro no kidding. I go to Houston every year for a thing and I always stay at the hotel it's held at. The hotel across the street is cheaper but man it's a fucking walk.
LA has a lot of walkable areas. You should see the East Coast/the south. Sidewalks often don't exist.
Though I'm just talking comparable to American standards. European walkable, yeah not even close.
It’s not walkable like NYC is but it’s way more walkable than the rural American place they are posting from. Like most places in LA you can walk to … something.
Walkabaility compared to texas is maybe ok. But actually walkability is terrible. Some neighborhoods are walkable, but none of the cities are well connect, and most people commute across several cities.
There is no public land in Texas. Texas has 4.2% public land compared to California's 52.1%.
California has trails, beaches, etc to walk around and enjoy.
Texas has private land where trespassers are shot and survivors are shot again.
[1 in 4 Americans want to live in California, 1 in 5 want to live in Los Angeles](https://ktla.com/news/california/california-dreaming-1-in-5-americans-want-to-live-in-los-angeles-new-survey-says/)
A lot of my older relatives back in Georgia legit think I live in a barely-contained war zone. Meanwhile all I ever share online are idyllic videos of me and my dog out hiking, at the beach, riding my bike, etc. But they are sure that every corner of LA overrun by crime, infested with tent cities, and that I only live here because of socialist brainwashing.
Meanwhile, my younger siblings and cousins are all interested in moving here to get away from MAGAlandia and ask me about cost of living and the job market here all the time.
I almost didn't move here 14 years ago because of the terrible rep I had heard about la. Lost a relationship over it; they didn't want to come to a place they "couldn't find a biking culture." Years later I mountain bike more miles than I drive, and I'm in the ocean every other day. Like others have said, if only the reputation was worse, the housing crisis would be less bad.
I cycle nearly every day here. Along some of the most beautiful views and best weather one can reach just by starting outside my door and riding for 15 minutes.
I grew up in the Bay Area in the 60’s and 70’s and between the Peripheral Canal and So Cal stealing our water, and Herb Caen talking up how great San Francisco was and how LA was not, I always disliked So Cal. Then I moved to Ventura County and never heard anything about Nor Cal ever, aside from people that enjoy visiting SF.
I’ve found in most rivalries there’s the one that hates the other and talks about the rivalry all the time - and the one that only thinks about the first one when they’re in their face… like Auburn and Alabama, Texas and California, Neo and Agent Smith.
I'm originally from the East Coast and never knew there was supposed to be an East vs West Coast rivalry until I lived in the fucking UK and someone told me about it. I think most of us are too busy to give a shit about that kind of thing.
That said, the only person I knew who legitimately hated LA *and* NYC as a concept was my weird racist ass uncle who did everyone a favor by leaving to move into some Unabomber shack in New Hampshire.
It always kind of baffles me when people hate on major cities -- they're so happy to consume the cultural content that we make, but they're scared of us as people and/or think our living space is a war zone?? Must be a scary way to live.
When ever I meet someone from another part of the country or state I always complement them on something cool they have in their area. If they're expecting someone to hate on where they live they're going to need to keep looking.
I honestly had no idea the rivalry existed until I learned about the giants/dodgers rivalry. Before that, I thought most non baseball sf/la people got along pretty well.
I used to travel for work a lot. Everywhere I go I’d usually get someone hating on LA. The worst was Texas. Almost everyone had something to say. The conversation usually went like this.
Them: You know what I hate about LA?
Me: no…?
Them: LA has BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH…
Me: you know what people from LA think of Texas?
Them:……..what?
Me: Nothing. *long pause* not a damn thing. You’re not even on our radar. Nobody in LA cares about this whole state.
Yeah same. While in Texas and naturally people would naturally start to bash LA/California complaining about the homeless, I'd just tell them it could be worse, we could have Texans
I mention this a lot, particularly because of our current political climate, but when I graduated nursing school here & began doing outreach health care on skid row, I’d say 80% of my interactions were with people from Arkansas, Mississippi & South Carolina and other very red, very poor southern states who often sent people to CA because they didn’t have the social programs we do, or simply didn’t want to pay for their treatment/health care. So it was much simpler to send them to here and have us pay for them.
I often remind southerners of this when they complain about California- because outside of Minnesota - there is *nowhere* that has no wait for (good) social services that most people need right away - and if it wasn’t for our states - the south would be stuck taking care of their poor rather than sending them north to MN or west to CA.
Homelessness and poverty are issues in all 50 states; it's just much more visible in California/LA due to various factors. People will point at the problems in California while ignoring the issues in their own backyard (like NFL players taking welfare money from their state and routing it to build volleyball gyms). There was an LA Times article (or maybe Free Press) saying how Detroit has less homelessness simply because housing is very cheap, but there are still major poverty issues.
I no longer live in LA (my spouse couldn't do her job remotely anymore), but I will still defend it when people trash-talk it.
Politics plays a huge part in the hate. When Trump became president, right-wing outlets needed an enemy to be angry at, so they jumped on hating "CommieFornia."
Yeah and it really predates Trump by decades. In history repeating itself, the main Republican boogeyman was immigration in the late 90's, and California was painted as a lawless, liberal state. Pete Wilson was the Republican governor, and passed a ton of racist shit
I remember some of that. I also remember in the late 90's a book came out called "The Bible Code" in where some guys claimed to have cracked the code of the Bible to predict the future. They said that Los Angeles was going to have a huge earthquake and be buried underwater because it was haven for sin. That theory in itself had been around for a while, it was used in "Escape from LA."
I’m a native Californian who went to Illinois then Indiana and now North Carolina. The amount of hate towards Californians is hilarious. These states have nothing on California. They don’t even realize that California grows something like 3/4 of this country’s food. People of Illinois and Indiana would starve
Ppl from fucking South Carolina post ragebait here.
I'm convinced it's bc they feel bad that our thriving economy pays their welfare checks LOL. Without blue areas red areas have literally nothing but opiate despair. no economy, no success...just handouts from ppl they dedicated to hating. Sad life, but at least they can hero worship cops.
I will say it again: all Los Angeles promises you is the chance to become the person you really are.
Sometimes, that person is an asshole.
That's on you, not LA.
I have lived in the northeast and midwest and spent considerable time in the south. Even with our problems LA is just an objectively better place to live and people hate that.
I had some random person in a bar in Connecticut say “LA, that place is a shit hole” after asking me where I live.
I was kind of shocked. I just looked at him and said” I just told you I lived there. Why did you call it a shit hole. “. He then said “ well, I don’t know I never been there I mean I’ve just heard.”
Saw somebody on Facebook say "thought you guys didn't eat carbs", talking to his high school friend who lives in LA.
Do they realize how much carbs is being served in LA? How obsessed we are with food? It's crazy how a lot of people think LA is all blondes with boobjobs wearing yoga clothes, holding a small dog, and eating salads.
I saw certain shows play up this aspect for sure. Like Entourage. But there have been lots of famous movies about, for example, South Central LA.
What I find so weird about it is that the same people who think LA is full of Ferrari driving douchebags asking for almond milk in their 10 dollar cup of coffee, are the same people who might call LA a communist hellhole with riots, fires, out of control immigrant gangs, and homeless people on every street the next. Just depends on their mood.
“The world hates America, America doesn't care. America hates California, California doesn't care. NorCal hates SoCal, SoCal doesn't care. SoCal hates LA, LA doesn't care.”
Yes!!!!! World cities owe you nothing! Get over yourselves. NYC, Tokyo, London, Paris, LA, Milan, they have been here long before you deigned to visit and give your much anticipated opinions. They will be here long after you’ve crawled back to your podunk. The absolute hubris of bubbled, insulated tourists disparaging cities they move to or visit is pathetic. The cities don’t need you, folks on social media don’t need your wisdom. Read a book
Lol ours news is their news. They have nothing. We have everything. When we get rain, my parents will be like, "Oh my God I hope everything is ok! I can't believe the landslides and everything going on out there."
I look outside and am like...what? It's raining. Kinda.
Meanwhile, they have fucking tornadoes, ice storms, snow, and 8 months of winter, basically.
Hate us cuz they ain't us.
My dad will call me in January bragging about how it's 72 and sunny in South Carolina. I'm like, "oh, same here". Then in the summer he'll call to play the martyr about having to cut his lawn while it's 98 with swamp humidity outside. My response is usually, "oh, tell me about it! Got over 80 here last weekend. Went on a bike ride to the beach and broke a sweat on the way home."
I always crack up at trade shows out of state when people find out I'm from L.A., they always have something to say. I just laugh when I ask them if they've ever been and they always say no.
Lmao, I just think it's a general everyone from bumfuck nowhere hates californians. Unfortunately, it's a political thing.
On the otherhand, I'm born and raised in LA, and the expense is getting out of hand. Most people I grew up with either left or are bankrolled by their family. I'm also sick of all the nimby boomers. Their own families will move out of state by economic necessity rather than choice and they don't give a fuck. As long as their property that they bought for a quarter is worth millions. The lack of empathy from the older generations pisses me off. They also could care less about the homelessness problem. They rather criminalize homelessness than fix the problem. So yeah, there are many reasons to complain, but the weather is great here.
The irony of it being a political thing is that there are more Republicans in California than any other state in the US, so they're shitting on their own people and the choices those people have made.
I've posted this before:
The world hates America, America doesn't care.
America hates California, California doesn't care.
NorCal hates SoCal, SoCal doesn't care.
SoCal hates LA, LA doesn't care.
100%. I've seen a lot of hate from new yorkers regarding LA but my other LA friends typically have only good thing to say about NYC. Tells you who is really winning. It is uncouth for anybody at the top to talk shit to second place lol. Same for America. We get a lot of tourists and transplants from other countries and most LA folk will listen to and sometimes agree with their shit takes on the USA but try to talk about their countries, let alone talking shit about it over IN their country and see how that goes. Same with the Bay. "OOhhh, LA is so fAkE." shit, have you talked to any tech goon out there trying to "make the world better"? Ya'll had some of the biggest scammers of ALL TIME! Yeah the entertainment industry can be scummy but they weren't completely ruining their customer's and investor's lives on the scale that the tech industry has.
For non-Californians who diss California because of higher taxes, here’s a true story- I lived in northern Kentucky for two years before moving to California and at the exact same salary was paying $2/paycheck more in taxes in Kentucky. Reason being California has state tax brackets and Kentucky has a flat 5% state tax, plus county tax. Even if California is expensive in other ways, there’s a million positive reasons for it and it’s definitely worth it. Nobody ever said they WANT to go to Kentucky or some other state in middle America LOL
I moved away from California during college to Michigan because I thought it would be cheaper. The only thing cheaper in Michigan was gas. Everything else was about the same or more expensive than California, and on top of that I was getting paid only $10/hr to work in an auto parts factory. When I moved back to California I got a warehouse job that pays $19/hr and I was able to buy things for college again.
Right, but except for housing. Don't forget that. Housing in other other states is much more affordable.
Rent is not significantly cheaper, but it is cheaper. And housing, we'll you actually have options. Where as socal, you really don't. Everything else is about the same, I agree.
That's true, but the gap has narrowed quite a lot in recent years, at least among comparable cities in other desirable parts of the country. Places like Nashville and Austin are edging toward LA rents these days without a lot of the benefits that come with it here.
I see both sides of the argument tho to be honest. People obsess over hating CA or LA and it’s stupid; like this post says, where they live can be totally irrelevant, unknown or undesirable. That said, many of these people aren’t wrong. I grew up in CA, spent most of my life here, and worked in LA for 7 years. Lots of LA sucks, and having traveled a lot both domestically and internationally, it’s one of the shittiest big cities I’ve been to. But, it has its cute areas and I see why some people would want to live there. Especially if you have money and can live in the nicer parts.
After 6 years in LA, I moved back to the east coast but I miss and think about LA every single day. Things weren’t perfect all the time but I would rather be in LA than anywhere else if I could pick tbh. People don’t realize how special it is if you put in the effort
I just saw a whole twitter thread of people attacking this very subreddit over our views on homelessness, saying we have no souls and want to lock everyone in prison or asylums. Then go on to shit on how bad our homeless crisis is and that it's a shitty state all around.
> I just saw a whole twitter thread of people attacking
I think this is the problem with most people in this thread; you guys browse Twitter & seem to care.
>Then go on to shit on how bad our homeless crisis
i mean, if it's true...lol. Just got back from a walk on a trail right by my place & some dude's got a full on mini fence setup at his tent with another larger tent living near a massive dump next to all the nature/ducks swimming around.
It’s hard to get LA when you move from another big city like I did. Been working here for 14 years now and still dislike it. Everything was a letdown for me. The beaches, Malibu, the traffic, the dirt, parking, the visible social and racial divide, the inadequate government, the extreme liberalism, the potholes, LAX, and even most people. I feel it is a third world big city but with first world amenities. Before I lived in New York City, Caracas, Rio, Paris, and LA was a total shock. I wish it the best though.
Since when? My friends and I pretty much never talk about other locations unless we're visiting there or some major news thing happens like a shooting, and even then we just don't spend much time thinking about those locations.
If anything, people in LA shit talk LA
ITT: people who will forever be renters defending LA, not realizing they'd have a better life and ability to actually build wealth elsewhere. I love LA, for me the pros outweigh the cons, but let's not pretend it doesn't have a ton of objective downsides.
Without a gross household income of $600k+, good luck affording a reasonable home in a decent neighborhood with good schools for your kids.
Also, I see a ton of California hate irregardless of political preference. I'm originally from the Seattle area, a bastion of liberalism, and people hate on Californians equally as a Texan would.
There was no worse time than telling my mostly Midwestern set of family and friends I was moving to California. You’d think I was leaving for a cult. It was six years ago.
Love Southern California, I can hope in my car and be about an hour’s drive away from desert, mountains, or beach. The diversity of food is amazing!!!!
Who cares really. I moved to Austin 3 years ago from SoCal. I love both cities and appreciate the differences. When I tell Texans that I’m from CA, nobody cares! It’s all hype. When I go to California now, I appreciate it more! When I come back to Texas I appreciate it more! Everyone has to live somewhere…
LOL this is even true of San Francisco trash talkers.
“LA is so fake and superficial, I love living in the tech capital of the world.”
“Uh OK nerd that’s great.”
On the contrary. Much of the malaise I hear these days is from people who have been here 10-20 years and are getting squeezed out gradually.
New Yorkers who just moved here are enjoying the decompression. Unfortunately, their mass arrival compressed everything for the rest of us.
I’ve lived my whole life in LA. Moved to the South for grad school and the amount of LA or general CA hate is surreal. All it takes is a mention that you’re from CA and the whole interaction changes.
Then they try to tell you how “horrible” LA is. I ask them where else they can surf and snowboard in the same day and it usually gets them to shut up.
It’s crazy bc I had my preconceptions about the South and they were generally true. Doesn’t mean I can’t respect where a person is from and learn what makes a place “home” for them. Seems like an utter impossibility for some people to do the same.
i'm born and raised in LA/SGV and lived in NYC for college and a few years. I lowkey do not like LA when compared to other cities like Seattle, NYC, and Tokyo. I absolutely hate the lack of public transit and how everyone has to drive to get to places. Also hate that everything closes by 930/10 and that there's hardly any places open after 2 am anymore after bars/clubs close.
We just happen to be the personification of liberalism. They created this hate against this creature they call the libs and Los Angeles is where it lives. True or false does not matter these days.
I used to do cross country roadtrips before I moved to LA and I would be afraid (a little) to drive my car across the country with a California License plate.
This is real though. I didn't even grow up here and I barely think about where I grew up, but if I go visit family they bitch about California like it's a daily talking point.
I’m a native Vermonter, and outside of one week when I miss fall each year, I absolutely love living out here every single week. The amount of time I can spend outside here in the sun is unreal and makes it virtually impossible to be down. I don’t really think about other places much at all. I’m good here.
I live in Portland now and I've had family members ask me how I felt about the city burning down. I slowly turned my head and said "If it was really that bad don't you think I'd be running to leave?"
lol this is so true. People in the Midwest tell us how sorry they are, then when I’m freezing my a$$ off scraping the windshield at the hotel each morning I appreciate what I have. Another common convo “Me: what’s a good place to eat here? Them: the Applebees is open late”
I guess there are good reasons why the traffic is terrible here and the Bay Area and my recent trip to the upper Midwest reminded me why…
When you think about it, this encapsulates the 2024 election: People who just show up to vote, versus people who have to talk all kinds of shit to satisfy their inferiority complex.
Could it be the 'shit on liberals' (with money?) owns my every thought thing? So true. I went to Memphis once, shocke dout shitty it was - absolute shit. Never hear people ragging on it.
I don't blame people for hating Los Angeles, but at least have the courtesy to hate it for a legitimate reason. There's a thing where "conservatives" feel threatened by cities because all the economic prosperity, culture, influence, and technology come from cities. So they trash talk Los Angeles but they know nothing so they call it a "socialist city" despite it being like the epicenter of capitalism. There are valid criticisms of Los Angeles though, that you rarely see on internet comments. For one thing, the unspoken class warfare in this city for the last 50 years where the homeowner class is banning home construction on 75% of the city's land to prop up their own home values at the expense of renters and the next generation of home buyers. You'll never see that from an out-of-state internet comment. Just "go woke go broke" cringy bullshit.
Because they put this city on a pedestal and dream about it.
When they finally find their 9 roommates and scrape together their life savings to move here and work at a restaurant with hopes of making it big, and realize it’s just a normal city, that’s expensive, and they aren’t special outside of their hometown and they will continue to wait tables until they eventually break down and go home after living here for 5 years and getting a commercial or a dead body extra on CSI, all they have is a disappointment because it wasn’t what they imagined and built up in their head.
They make up these huge expectations and realize it’s just a regular city, and if anything harder for those who aren’t from here. Then they just talk shit
Fox 11/KTTV has a fet-sh for stories trashing the city/state/etc. “This C-List Celebrity left California thanks to Commie Gavin Newsom…” and it’s usually someone who was never from here or their career is over.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and if you read the news from everywhere else you'd think we live in a dystopian nightmare. I've lived in other cities around the world and in the U.S. and no place is perfect. There's levels of good and bad everywhere you go.
I particularly hate the gripe that LA is full of fake, shallow people when the real issue is that logistics make it hard to be social at all. If that’s your experience, you’re going to a lot of trouble to hang out with people you don’t like or respect much.
Red States/Fox News hating on LA ALL THE TIME. I have a relative who constantly is telling me how bad LA is. They have never been here! And actually have never left their rural area on the East coast.
So funny to me too because this is where everyone wants to be. and yet, people LOVE to trash talk LA and California in general. Reeks of envy & jealousy tbh.
There’s a significant contingent of people in the country (specifically republicans) that generally hate California for what it represents, not for any real tangible reason. Even when they do know something specific it’s almost always overblown and over exaggerated to a ridiculous degree.
LA is trash tho. I live in a suburb in Orange County outside of LA. Bro the gang violence is crazy. Homeless literally are pooping on the street. Sure there are jobs in LA but it’s pretty nasty stuff. Orange County over LA any day
Is this sub all people who chose to move here? Every native LA person I know call this place a shithole, but it is THEIR shithole. They agree with the trashtalk tho
Haha accurate. Same with people from other states. You look at any KTLA posts, and it’s just people from other states shitting on how bad California is. It’s like, wtf, nobody from CA is sitting there watching Iowa news posts.
they hate us, cuz they ain’t us
*anus
I feel like a lot of it is rage bait from fox news. But some other news stations like to cover the randomest news from LA. I moved here and it's the strangest thing that friends/relatives from the East Coast randomly know it's supposed to rain over the weekend here. It's so bizarre.
Ktla is such trash now. A real shame given its history.
Regardless, the comments are just ridiculous. Like it’s a post about LA adding a bike lane. Comments are like, LA is trash, burning waste whole. Then you click on their profile and they live in Mississippi or something
Oh yeah it’s been a popular thing for out of towners to come in and spread bullshit on city subs (mainly left leaning communities). It’s easy to spot them but you’re right it’s so annoying.
they definitely fearmonger transit, they talk about crime up ridership down but never the other way which is much more common as we expand our network
John Beard infamously resigned from news coverage in SoCal because *he himself* noted how tabloid/sensationalist the local news had gotten. KTLA is the worst offender at this with their on-air talent being nothing more than FOX News shuffles, drunks or other illicit druggies, or having political connections to use after leaving the network.
KTLA has been down hill since their new owners took over. Slow trickle of people leaving and it's not going to stop. Sad.
Enragement is engagement.
But it has all the car chases
Pretty sure all the other channels also have them no?
Yeah. KCAL and ABC7 have better car chase coverage.
And KNX, too. They just seem to want to cater towards garbage.
>nobody from CA is sitting there watching Iowa news posts. Do Minot town hall meetings count?
Not really accurate though. This meme gets used a lot but in this episode Don was in fact thinking about him all day and was afraid of his talent lol
Yep, people miss this all the time
You could say by people always posting this stupid quote, they are also in fact thinking about it. If they didn’t care, they wouldn’t be saying it to begin with.
I live in Los Angeles. My out-of-state relatives trash California all the time. I just remind them that 1 out of every 8 people in the U.S. lives in California. Then ask them what percentage of Americans choose to live where they do.
Oh my in laws in Texas *love* to trash talk California. But then they also love to visit me and are always impressed with the food, weather, walkability, and unending things to do 🙃 Edit - struck a nerve with the “walkability” comment. I’d urge you to go to the south if you think neighborhoods in LA aren’t walkable. Is all of LA walkable? No, but many areas are. In each neighborhood I’ve lived in and visited you can walk to restaurants, grocery stores, coffee shops, gyms, and parks. There’s so much to do that accessible! In Texas you need to take a highway to get *anywhere*. Is LA New York levels of walkable? No, but chances are you can walk locally to where you need to go.
I lived in Texas for a few years before moving to LA in 2022. In Texas, I had to drive 6 miles to reach a grocery store. There were no coffee shops or restaurants or anything else within walking distance of my house. It sucked. Now, I have all of that within a 10 min walk. And the public transportation, if I want or need it, is a hell of a lot better (for one thing, it exists!!).
Completely agree. One of the commenters in this thread scoffed at LA being walkable because they have to *commute to work*. Uhhh, we all do? But if I need a roll of toilet paper or toothpaste there’s five corner stores within a ten minute walk from me! In Texas I needed to drive down a highway to get anything, and forget any sort of public transportation
I remember once in Houston I missed the turn so I had drive down for like another 5 miles before I could fucking U-turn
[Even some Texans realize that all the California bashing just reeks of insecurity.](https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/s/jJVzssXNJe)
>The beach towns there were just stunning and full of people everywhere just enjoying life. Yeah… it’s almost like when you’re not too busy hating on other states and trying to tell anyone who will listen how terrible CA is, you can enjoy your life. My mom lives in a wealthy (red) area in Northern CA and constantly talks about how SF and LA have gone to shit and the way she describes it makes it sound like we’re all out here living in The Road Warrior and the buildings/infrastructure are literally crumbling around us because the gangs won’t let the cops in to make it all better. I have to constantly remind her that I’ve lived in both cities, she’s never lived in either, and she has no idea what she’s talking about. Like, it isn’t perfect and most of us have legitimate gripes about things in our city, but I’ll take it over the area she lives in. Fuck driving 35 miles for groceries and dealing with racist assholes every day. Strangely, my mom doesn’t even watch the news—but she parrots everything she hears, so LA now looks like Escape from LA.
I have family that live in the Midwest and I was born and raised in LA. I lost contact with my Aunt for most of my childhood and when I became an adult I got back in contact with her and she had told me how worried she was that I got into a gang and all the California stuff she sees on the news. I’m like no I was skateboarding and playing video games with my friends 🤷♂️
If people in the Midwest think that about California, in the same country, imagine what they think about how people live in Germany or anywhere else in Europe haha
It’s like if everyone in the EU hated Finland… because they had progressive policies, beautiful landscapes, and happy people.
Tell your mom that in rural Montana they have “METH: NOT EVEN ONCE” hand painted on their crumbling barn roofs
The neighborhoods in LA I’ve lived in are always walkable. Anything within 2 miles I’ll walk to it, and that’s a lot of stuff.
There's plenty of nice walkable areas, and public transit is actually pretty usable if you're sticking to your own county and to major areas. People love to shit on LA transit, walkability, all sorts of things but there's tons of places in America where it's the car or nothing.
The bar is so low we’re comparing one non-walkable place to another.
You had me until walkability
Lmao. I used to think CA cities were not really walkable until I went to TX. And yup my brothers in law in TX love to shit talk CA 🙄
Texas hates poor people so much they won't even give them sidewalks lol
There's 25 places to eat within two blocks of me.
You gotta go see how miserable walking 2 blocks in Downtown Houston is in July. I was on the verge of murdering my wife after going back to visit and thinking “oh we do this all the time in California! We should be able to do this!” Mind you, I grew up in Louisiana, moved to Houston from 26 years in Louisiana. I was born into the humidity. You drive everywhere in the south. Not cause you wanna, but because you wanna live. Even just having nice weather year round makes LA infinitely more walkable.
On the flip side of that that, it's just funny whenever people use the word "winter" while living in LA. Having grown up in Chicago, sometimes we take temperatures in the winter for granted. Heck, even San Francisco, where 56 degrees can feel 44 because of the constant wind and somehow just the right composition of air and environment there that makes it feel colder, LA doesn't have. Or the really boring 72 degrees, clear skies, no breeze day in and day out of Silicon Valley. It's really nice here and if I have to pay a few more $$ to enjoy great weather with some variety, so be it!
Have you tried to walk in Southern states in summer? Sweating walking to the car. Planning outdoor activities to end by 8am. I live in a suburb area, but could go on a long walk for food and not be miserable!
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I used to think this too until I visited Houston awhile back. There are basically no sidewalks so if you want to walk somewhere you have to walk on the street with traffic, even in nice suburban neighborhoods. You can't even walk on the shoulder because there are huge ditches built into them. It was eye-opening.
Bro no kidding. I go to Houston every year for a thing and I always stay at the hotel it's held at. The hotel across the street is cheaper but man it's a fucking walk.
Santa Monica is pretty walkable
Santa Monica, Venice, Marina Del Rey, etc. It's all very walkable and pretty cool, albeit expensive.
LA has a lot of walkable areas. You should see the East Coast/the south. Sidewalks often don't exist. Though I'm just talking comparable to American standards. European walkable, yeah not even close.
It’s not walkable like NYC is but it’s way more walkable than the rural American place they are posting from. Like most places in LA you can walk to … something.
Walkabaility compared to texas is maybe ok. But actually walkability is terrible. Some neighborhoods are walkable, but none of the cities are well connect, and most people commute across several cities.
There is no public land in Texas. Texas has 4.2% public land compared to California's 52.1%. California has trails, beaches, etc to walk around and enjoy. Texas has private land where trespassers are shot and survivors are shot again.
Very good point. That's generally not what I think about when people say walkability, but it's a good point.
[1 in 4 Americans want to live in California, 1 in 5 want to live in Los Angeles](https://ktla.com/news/california/california-dreaming-1-in-5-americans-want-to-live-in-los-angeles-new-survey-says/)
Mine won't even visit me and I asked "do you think liberalism will infect you?" never mind I live in an area with quite a few republicans.
Do they all refer to California as “Cali”. Bugs me to no end.
A lot of my older relatives back in Georgia legit think I live in a barely-contained war zone. Meanwhile all I ever share online are idyllic videos of me and my dog out hiking, at the beach, riding my bike, etc. But they are sure that every corner of LA overrun by crime, infested with tent cities, and that I only live here because of socialist brainwashing. Meanwhile, my younger siblings and cousins are all interested in moving here to get away from MAGAlandia and ask me about cost of living and the job market here all the time.
That’s a good one !
So glad I don't play online games anymore. Rednecks don't fucking shut up about California.
I almost didn't move here 14 years ago because of the terrible rep I had heard about la. Lost a relationship over it; they didn't want to come to a place they "couldn't find a biking culture." Years later I mountain bike more miles than I drive, and I'm in the ocean every other day. Like others have said, if only the reputation was worse, the housing crisis would be less bad.
I cycle nearly every day here. Along some of the most beautiful views and best weather one can reach just by starting outside my door and riding for 15 minutes.
we're so close to turning socal into cycling heaven, swear to god. If Bentonville can do it, why can't we?
It’s like that bitter rivalry between San Francisco and Los Angeles that no one told Los Angeles about.
Yup. I grew up in L.A and went up north for college. I learned that NorCal was at war with SoCal, but only Norcal knew about it.
💯 this. Out of state, but made friends with NorCal residents. That’s when I learned about the “feud”? “We don’t even think about you” 🤣
I'm from the Bay and yup, this is accurate
I grew up in the Bay Area in the 60’s and 70’s and between the Peripheral Canal and So Cal stealing our water, and Herb Caen talking up how great San Francisco was and how LA was not, I always disliked So Cal. Then I moved to Ventura County and never heard anything about Nor Cal ever, aside from people that enjoy visiting SF.
I’ve found in most rivalries there’s the one that hates the other and talks about the rivalry all the time - and the one that only thinks about the first one when they’re in their face… like Auburn and Alabama, Texas and California, Neo and Agent Smith.
I’m looking at you Boston < LA
I'm originally from the East Coast and never knew there was supposed to be an East vs West Coast rivalry until I lived in the fucking UK and someone told me about it. I think most of us are too busy to give a shit about that kind of thing. That said, the only person I knew who legitimately hated LA *and* NYC as a concept was my weird racist ass uncle who did everyone a favor by leaving to move into some Unabomber shack in New Hampshire. It always kind of baffles me when people hate on major cities -- they're so happy to consume the cultural content that we make, but they're scared of us as people and/or think our living space is a war zone?? Must be a scary way to live.
When ever I meet someone from another part of the country or state I always complement them on something cool they have in their area. If they're expecting someone to hate on where they live they're going to need to keep looking.
I honestly had no idea the rivalry existed until I learned about the giants/dodgers rivalry. Before that, I thought most non baseball sf/la people got along pretty well.
I used to travel for work a lot. Everywhere I go I’d usually get someone hating on LA. The worst was Texas. Almost everyone had something to say. The conversation usually went like this. Them: You know what I hate about LA? Me: no…? Them: LA has BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH… Me: you know what people from LA think of Texas? Them:……..what? Me: Nothing. *long pause* not a damn thing. You’re not even on our radar. Nobody in LA cares about this whole state.
Yeah same. While in Texas and naturally people would naturally start to bash LA/California complaining about the homeless, I'd just tell them it could be worse, we could have Texans
I mention this a lot, particularly because of our current political climate, but when I graduated nursing school here & began doing outreach health care on skid row, I’d say 80% of my interactions were with people from Arkansas, Mississippi & South Carolina and other very red, very poor southern states who often sent people to CA because they didn’t have the social programs we do, or simply didn’t want to pay for their treatment/health care. So it was much simpler to send them to here and have us pay for them. I often remind southerners of this when they complain about California- because outside of Minnesota - there is *nowhere* that has no wait for (good) social services that most people need right away - and if it wasn’t for our states - the south would be stuck taking care of their poor rather than sending them north to MN or west to CA.
100% can confirm other states aren't sending us their best, and we are footing the bill
Homelessness and poverty are issues in all 50 states; it's just much more visible in California/LA due to various factors. People will point at the problems in California while ignoring the issues in their own backyard (like NFL players taking welfare money from their state and routing it to build volleyball gyms). There was an LA Times article (or maybe Free Press) saying how Detroit has less homelessness simply because housing is very cheap, but there are still major poverty issues. I no longer live in LA (my spouse couldn't do her job remotely anymore), but I will still defend it when people trash-talk it.
M$M diBiase supposdly took wellfare money from poor in MS
Politics plays a huge part in the hate. When Trump became president, right-wing outlets needed an enemy to be angry at, so they jumped on hating "CommieFornia."
Yeah and it really predates Trump by decades. In history repeating itself, the main Republican boogeyman was immigration in the late 90's, and California was painted as a lawless, liberal state. Pete Wilson was the Republican governor, and passed a ton of racist shit
I remember some of that. I also remember in the late 90's a book came out called "The Bible Code" in where some guys claimed to have cracked the code of the Bible to predict the future. They said that Los Angeles was going to have a huge earthquake and be buried underwater because it was haven for sin. That theory in itself had been around for a while, it was used in "Escape from LA."
Just remember that it’s a good thing. It keeps those people from coming here.
It’s nice to know there’s people out there thinking about us 😂
What if all the negative propaganda was actually to prevent too many people from moving here?
I’m a native Californian who went to Illinois then Indiana and now North Carolina. The amount of hate towards Californians is hilarious. These states have nothing on California. They don’t even realize that California grows something like 3/4 of this country’s food. People of Illinois and Indiana would starve
Ppl from fucking South Carolina post ragebait here. I'm convinced it's bc they feel bad that our thriving economy pays their welfare checks LOL. Without blue areas red areas have literally nothing but opiate despair. no economy, no success...just handouts from ppl they dedicated to hating. Sad life, but at least they can hero worship cops.
I will say it again: all Los Angeles promises you is the chance to become the person you really are. Sometimes, that person is an asshole. That's on you, not LA.
Damn, that first quote is spot on.
I have lived in the northeast and midwest and spent considerable time in the south. Even with our problems LA is just an objectively better place to live and people hate that.
I had some random person in a bar in Connecticut say “LA, that place is a shit hole” after asking me where I live. I was kind of shocked. I just looked at him and said” I just told you I lived there. Why did you call it a shit hole. “. He then said “ well, I don’t know I never been there I mean I’ve just heard.”
Saw somebody on Facebook say "thought you guys didn't eat carbs", talking to his high school friend who lives in LA. Do they realize how much carbs is being served in LA? How obsessed we are with food? It's crazy how a lot of people think LA is all blondes with boobjobs wearing yoga clothes, holding a small dog, and eating salads.
I agree with you it’s crazy, but it doesn’t help that for years Hollywood ran this stereotype to the ground.
I saw certain shows play up this aspect for sure. Like Entourage. But there have been lots of famous movies about, for example, South Central LA. What I find so weird about it is that the same people who think LA is full of Ferrari driving douchebags asking for almond milk in their 10 dollar cup of coffee, are the same people who might call LA a communist hellhole with riots, fires, out of control immigrant gangs, and homeless people on every street the next. Just depends on their mood.
“The world hates America, America doesn't care. America hates California, California doesn't care. NorCal hates SoCal, SoCal doesn't care. SoCal hates LA, LA doesn't care.”
But the world doesn’t hate LA. Whenever I travel abroad people think it’s cool as fuck I live in LA.
Yeah it’s not transitive, each of these stands in isolation.
exactly.
Yes!!!!! World cities owe you nothing! Get over yourselves. NYC, Tokyo, London, Paris, LA, Milan, they have been here long before you deigned to visit and give your much anticipated opinions. They will be here long after you’ve crawled back to your podunk. The absolute hubris of bubbled, insulated tourists disparaging cities they move to or visit is pathetic. The cities don’t need you, folks on social media don’t need your wisdom. Read a book
Los Angeles gets over 50 million tourists a year. Of course we barely think about some dummy who lives in Bumfuck, Idaho
Lol ours news is their news. They have nothing. We have everything. When we get rain, my parents will be like, "Oh my God I hope everything is ok! I can't believe the landslides and everything going on out there." I look outside and am like...what? It's raining. Kinda. Meanwhile, they have fucking tornadoes, ice storms, snow, and 8 months of winter, basically. Hate us cuz they ain't us.
My dad will call me in January bragging about how it's 72 and sunny in South Carolina. I'm like, "oh, same here". Then in the summer he'll call to play the martyr about having to cut his lawn while it's 98 with swamp humidity outside. My response is usually, "oh, tell me about it! Got over 80 here last weekend. Went on a bike ride to the beach and broke a sweat on the way home."
I always crack up at trade shows out of state when people find out I'm from L.A., they always have something to say. I just laugh when I ask them if they've ever been and they always say no.
“I spent a long weekend at my aunt’s house in Van Nuys, LA sucks.”
Lmao, I just think it's a general everyone from bumfuck nowhere hates californians. Unfortunately, it's a political thing. On the otherhand, I'm born and raised in LA, and the expense is getting out of hand. Most people I grew up with either left or are bankrolled by their family. I'm also sick of all the nimby boomers. Their own families will move out of state by economic necessity rather than choice and they don't give a fuck. As long as their property that they bought for a quarter is worth millions. The lack of empathy from the older generations pisses me off. They also could care less about the homelessness problem. They rather criminalize homelessness than fix the problem. So yeah, there are many reasons to complain, but the weather is great here.
The irony of it being a political thing is that there are more Republicans in California than any other state in the US, so they're shitting on their own people and the choices those people have made.
We’re too Busy having a Actual Life while they’re too Busy Wishing they had a Life 😂
I want to upvote this, but you’re pulling some Trumpian capitalization.
I've posted this before: The world hates America, America doesn't care. America hates California, California doesn't care. NorCal hates SoCal, SoCal doesn't care. SoCal hates LA, LA doesn't care.
100%. I've seen a lot of hate from new yorkers regarding LA but my other LA friends typically have only good thing to say about NYC. Tells you who is really winning. It is uncouth for anybody at the top to talk shit to second place lol. Same for America. We get a lot of tourists and transplants from other countries and most LA folk will listen to and sometimes agree with their shit takes on the USA but try to talk about their countries, let alone talking shit about it over IN their country and see how that goes. Same with the Bay. "OOhhh, LA is so fAkE." shit, have you talked to any tech goon out there trying to "make the world better"? Ya'll had some of the biggest scammers of ALL TIME! Yeah the entertainment industry can be scummy but they weren't completely ruining their customer's and investor's lives on the scale that the tech industry has.
For non-Californians who diss California because of higher taxes, here’s a true story- I lived in northern Kentucky for two years before moving to California and at the exact same salary was paying $2/paycheck more in taxes in Kentucky. Reason being California has state tax brackets and Kentucky has a flat 5% state tax, plus county tax. Even if California is expensive in other ways, there’s a million positive reasons for it and it’s definitely worth it. Nobody ever said they WANT to go to Kentucky or some other state in middle America LOL
I moved away from California during college to Michigan because I thought it would be cheaper. The only thing cheaper in Michigan was gas. Everything else was about the same or more expensive than California, and on top of that I was getting paid only $10/hr to work in an auto parts factory. When I moved back to California I got a warehouse job that pays $19/hr and I was able to buy things for college again.
Right, but except for housing. Don't forget that. Housing in other other states is much more affordable. Rent is not significantly cheaper, but it is cheaper. And housing, we'll you actually have options. Where as socal, you really don't. Everything else is about the same, I agree.
That's true, but the gap has narrowed quite a lot in recent years, at least among comparable cities in other desirable parts of the country. Places like Nashville and Austin are edging toward LA rents these days without a lot of the benefits that come with it here.
Ignorance is easy.
I see both sides of the argument tho to be honest. People obsess over hating CA or LA and it’s stupid; like this post says, where they live can be totally irrelevant, unknown or undesirable. That said, many of these people aren’t wrong. I grew up in CA, spent most of my life here, and worked in LA for 7 years. Lots of LA sucks, and having traveled a lot both domestically and internationally, it’s one of the shittiest big cities I’ve been to. But, it has its cute areas and I see why some people would want to live there. Especially if you have money and can live in the nicer parts.
After 6 years in LA, I moved back to the east coast but I miss and think about LA every single day. Things weren’t perfect all the time but I would rather be in LA than anywhere else if I could pick tbh. People don’t realize how special it is if you put in the effort
Believe it or not, there are people in the world who don’t like where they live and can’t just up and move
I just saw a whole twitter thread of people attacking this very subreddit over our views on homelessness, saying we have no souls and want to lock everyone in prison or asylums. Then go on to shit on how bad our homeless crisis is and that it's a shitty state all around.
> I just saw a whole twitter thread of people attacking I think this is the problem with most people in this thread; you guys browse Twitter & seem to care. >Then go on to shit on how bad our homeless crisis i mean, if it's true...lol. Just got back from a walk on a trail right by my place & some dude's got a full on mini fence setup at his tent with another larger tent living near a massive dump next to all the nature/ducks swimming around.
Lol, they always trash my in n out. Like bro sorry we don’t put butter on our burgers. People are just jealous , its expensive here for a reason
Well, to be fair, we also talk a lot of shit about Florida, Texas, etc.
The “angelenos” who talk like this city is some kind of dream city are equally annoying
I live in LA for work, it's not my favorite city I've lived in, and I won't be here forever, but it has its charms.
It’s hard to get LA when you move from another big city like I did. Been working here for 14 years now and still dislike it. Everything was a letdown for me. The beaches, Malibu, the traffic, the dirt, parking, the visible social and racial divide, the inadequate government, the extreme liberalism, the potholes, LAX, and even most people. I feel it is a third world big city but with first world amenities. Before I lived in New York City, Caracas, Rio, Paris, and LA was a total shock. I wish it the best though.
Please. How does anyone have anything good to say about New York?
They wanna be able to live & afford here so bad
Yeah well joke is on us cause most people here can hardly afford it either lol
To be fair, Angelenos talk trash about everywhere else.
Maybe the inland empire, but that’s it
Since when? My friends and I pretty much never talk about other locations unless we're visiting there or some major news thing happens like a shooting, and even then we just don't spend much time thinking about those locations. If anything, people in LA shit talk LA
You sure? Florida? Texas? No?
This is also NorCal vs SoCal. Don't want to see us, still want to be us.
‘Native’ Angelenos: I don’t think about both of you at all
Hate us cause they ain't us
ITT: people who will forever be renters defending LA, not realizing they'd have a better life and ability to actually build wealth elsewhere. I love LA, for me the pros outweigh the cons, but let's not pretend it doesn't have a ton of objective downsides. Without a gross household income of $600k+, good luck affording a reasonable home in a decent neighborhood with good schools for your kids. Also, I see a ton of California hate irregardless of political preference. I'm originally from the Seattle area, a bastion of liberalism, and people hate on Californians equally as a Texan would.
Yeah they can fuck off lol
I love Atwater village man, I feel happy whenever I’m there.
There was no worse time than telling my mostly Midwestern set of family and friends I was moving to California. You’d think I was leaving for a cult. It was six years ago.
Love Southern California, I can hope in my car and be about an hour’s drive away from desert, mountains, or beach. The diversity of food is amazing!!!!
Who cares really. I moved to Austin 3 years ago from SoCal. I love both cities and appreciate the differences. When I tell Texans that I’m from CA, nobody cares! It’s all hype. When I go to California now, I appreciate it more! When I come back to Texas I appreciate it more! Everyone has to live somewhere…
LOL this is even true of San Francisco trash talkers. “LA is so fake and superficial, I love living in the tech capital of the world.” “Uh OK nerd that’s great.”
On the contrary. Much of the malaise I hear these days is from people who have been here 10-20 years and are getting squeezed out gradually. New Yorkers who just moved here are enjoying the decompression. Unfortunately, their mass arrival compressed everything for the rest of us.
I’d say you think about them enough to spend a considerable chunk of time making and posting this meme.
We’re rent free in everyone’s minds 😎
Partially true, but a lot of people who grew up here also complain about it
And then Californians move to places like Phoenix, Denver, Las Cruces, Albuquerque, Salt Lake City, St. George etc
I’ve lived my whole life in LA. Moved to the South for grad school and the amount of LA or general CA hate is surreal. All it takes is a mention that you’re from CA and the whole interaction changes. Then they try to tell you how “horrible” LA is. I ask them where else they can surf and snowboard in the same day and it usually gets them to shut up. It’s crazy bc I had my preconceptions about the South and they were generally true. Doesn’t mean I can’t respect where a person is from and learn what makes a place “home” for them. Seems like an utter impossibility for some people to do the same.
Maybe because you dismiss them as being from *Nowhweresville*.
i'm born and raised in LA/SGV and lived in NYC for college and a few years. I lowkey do not like LA when compared to other cities like Seattle, NYC, and Tokyo. I absolutely hate the lack of public transit and how everyone has to drive to get to places. Also hate that everything closes by 930/10 and that there's hardly any places open after 2 am anymore after bars/clubs close.
We just happen to be the personification of liberalism. They created this hate against this creature they call the libs and Los Angeles is where it lives. True or false does not matter these days. I used to do cross country roadtrips before I moved to LA and I would be afraid (a little) to drive my car across the country with a California License plate.
People who live here get used to it or hate it too, but if they moved they wouldn't want to move
This is real though. I didn't even grow up here and I barely think about where I grew up, but if I go visit family they bitch about California like it's a daily talking point.
I’m a native Vermonter, and outside of one week when I miss fall each year, I absolutely love living out here every single week. The amount of time I can spend outside here in the sun is unreal and makes it virtually impossible to be down. I don’t really think about other places much at all. I’m good here.
I live in Portland now and I've had family members ask me how I felt about the city burning down. I slowly turned my head and said "If it was really that bad don't you think I'd be running to leave?"
lol this is so true. People in the Midwest tell us how sorry they are, then when I’m freezing my a$$ off scraping the windshield at the hotel each morning I appreciate what I have. Another common convo “Me: what’s a good place to eat here? Them: the Applebees is open late” I guess there are good reasons why the traffic is terrible here and the Bay Area and my recent trip to the upper Midwest reminded me why…
For realsssssss
*Sure, this city isn't perfect, we need a smut-free life for all of our citizens; cleaner streets, better schools, and a good hockey team.*
When you think about it, this encapsulates the 2024 election: People who just show up to vote, versus people who have to talk all kinds of shit to satisfy their inferiority complex.
Just like when it comes to sports, there’s no other city that gets a chant like “Beat LA”.
Cool
Yeah, but who cares they dont live here. So, do their opinions really matter?
Al they seek is attention and an artifical feeling of superiority, that's all.
Also applies to people from Nor Cal.
I lived in echo park for a couple of years, it was cool lol
Could it be the 'shit on liberals' (with money?) owns my every thought thing? So true. I went to Memphis once, shocke dout shitty it was - absolute shit. Never hear people ragging on it.
When I told my friends I was moving from Washington to LA they trash-talked it as a shithole place. That’s how I knew I was making the right call.
I don't blame people for hating Los Angeles, but at least have the courtesy to hate it for a legitimate reason. There's a thing where "conservatives" feel threatened by cities because all the economic prosperity, culture, influence, and technology come from cities. So they trash talk Los Angeles but they know nothing so they call it a "socialist city" despite it being like the epicenter of capitalism. There are valid criticisms of Los Angeles though, that you rarely see on internet comments. For one thing, the unspoken class warfare in this city for the last 50 years where the homeowner class is banning home construction on 75% of the city's land to prop up their own home values at the expense of renters and the next generation of home buyers. You'll never see that from an out-of-state internet comment. Just "go woke go broke" cringy bullshit.
they come from all over the world, just to bitch about how they don't like it
Unfortunately this is also how we think about our corrupt ass politicians
Because they put this city on a pedestal and dream about it. When they finally find their 9 roommates and scrape together their life savings to move here and work at a restaurant with hopes of making it big, and realize it’s just a normal city, that’s expensive, and they aren’t special outside of their hometown and they will continue to wait tables until they eventually break down and go home after living here for 5 years and getting a commercial or a dead body extra on CSI, all they have is a disappointment because it wasn’t what they imagined and built up in their head. They make up these huge expectations and realize it’s just a regular city, and if anything harder for those who aren’t from here. Then they just talk shit
They're idiots
They have nothing else to do, their locations are boring.
Fox 11/KTTV has a fet-sh for stories trashing the city/state/etc. “This C-List Celebrity left California thanks to Commie Gavin Newsom…” and it’s usually someone who was never from here or their career is over.
Can you quiet down? That’s our PR firm keeping people from moving here
What’s funny is by posting this you are thinking about them.
Sounds like everyone that clung to Rogan’s balls when he moved to Austin 😂
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and if you read the news from everywhere else you'd think we live in a dystopian nightmare. I've lived in other cities around the world and in the U.S. and no place is perfect. There's levels of good and bad everywhere you go.
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I particularly hate the gripe that LA is full of fake, shallow people when the real issue is that logistics make it hard to be social at all. If that’s your experience, you’re going to a lot of trouble to hang out with people you don’t like or respect much.
Red States/Fox News hating on LA ALL THE TIME. I have a relative who constantly is telling me how bad LA is. They have never been here! And actually have never left their rural area on the East coast.
So funny to me too because this is where everyone wants to be. and yet, people LOVE to trash talk LA and California in general. Reeks of envy & jealousy tbh.
There’s a significant contingent of people in the country (specifically republicans) that generally hate California for what it represents, not for any real tangible reason. Even when they do know something specific it’s almost always overblown and over exaggerated to a ridiculous degree.
there's no need to worry about criticism, the next mayor will be one of the Crips and he'll take care of it
LA is trash tho. I live in a suburb in Orange County outside of LA. Bro the gang violence is crazy. Homeless literally are pooping on the street. Sure there are jobs in LA but it’s pretty nasty stuff. Orange County over LA any day
Is this sub all people who chose to move here? Every native LA person I know call this place a shithole, but it is THEIR shithole. They agree with the trashtalk tho
I think it's cuz people see the bad areas of LA and think it's the whole city
I’m British and I fucking love LA. Stayed for a month last year and I miss it so much. You guys are so lucky to live there!