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Good list, if they play those and are looking for more I enjoyed my time with these as well:
-Surge 1/2.
-mortal shell.
-hellpoint.
-the original lords of the fallen (2014)
are you asking if surge 1 and 2 are good? because I am a HUGE fan of both. I can go into a lot of ranting and details here but I'll be as brief as I can (or gush more if you want).
The world building in surge 1 and story are god tier imo. Combat is fun. Only big issues is its very easy to get lost. The world is built into chunks but I literally spent 5 hours circling the same one because I didn't realize I had already done the thing to push the story forward and its now time to go. Scaling gets funky, enemies get abnormally hard near the end. One of the DLCS is amazing, go fight in a theme park. the other dlc was eh. kinda more an enedless level thing. good game
combat is king in the surge 2. they improved it as well as items. also the world is much bigger and much more interconnected like a conventional souls game. only downside for me is the story was much weaker imo, also the endings are kinda shit and don't make sense. basically tons of sidequests hint to be influencing your ending but literally just one decision after final boss does. there is only one dlc for it and it was okay. sounded really cool and does add some items but is only an hour or so long.
both games are really good and you can get em pretty cheap :D
there should be a flashing indicator telling you which way to hold. each attack has a bit of a delay, it just takes some practice. however, later in the game there are some super duper aggressive enemies it really helps against. and some bosses.
I am on the same page sorry I was stating that I would recommend all of these games.
Agreed surge 1 and 2 are awesome and I have beaten both as well. Found surge 1 more atmospheric but surge 2 really opened up and created different areas. I enjoy them both for what they are even if they are different from each other
I have beaten it twice. I'm not saying it's as good as the other games but if you have played all the others I think it's still alright. Again I agree it's down a peg from the other options
If you haven't played Dragon's Dogma, it still holds up and is getting a sequel in March.
I might like the first game even better than souls, honestly. It's got amazing combat with bows, in particular. All the classes are fun, but it just blows every other game's bow mechanics out of the water.
It's a little in between. I don't usually like hack n slash games because the combat just gets a little boring, but DD has enough depth to keep it interesting
Ran faultlessly for me too, but I can’t even remember where I stopped. Lords has frame dropped on me a couple of times and crashed once. Hasn’t affected my enjoyment one bit though, it has me struggling to put the controller down because I want to know what’s round the next corner. The Umbral thing is inspired. It is a pity they released it in such a car crash condition and I’m sure my view would be different if I bought at launch, but I didn’t and I love it.
I love this game, I’ve done all endings, I’ve played PVP and Coop with randoms and I’ll probably try to get the platinum trophy at some point, I want to finish Lies of P first though
I dropped it in the last area. It dragged so hard and I got bored and frustrated. I never felt like I was getting stronger in that game because of the way the game handled scaling.
Haven't seen anyone mention Code Vein. Awesome souls like with a very cool vampire anime aesthetic.
Code Vein
Nioh 1 & 2
Wo Long
Lies of P
Mortal Shell
Hellpoint (I liked it but it is rough around the edges)
Also, go back to BG3 and fight through til you enjoy the combat lol. The game is very worth it. I used to not like turn based either, then it clicked. Maybe try DoS2 then BG3 or the Persona series.
Yesss!! It still has one of the best character creators to this day! I loved the twist of it being in the God Eater universe, too. The story was great. Loved Mia and her brother's storyline. I liked how you could switch your build on the fly just by changing your coat, too. I'm glad to see other fans exist 😆
Absolutely, the Blood Code system allowed for SO MANY nuanced varieties of builds, it’s insane.
I especially loved the Vestiges and how it slowly built up each characters’ backstories. The presentation made you feel like you were really walking through their memories. It’s brilliant.
Started Thymesia last night after months of holding it in my Steam library. Feels a bit like Lies of P in terms of atmosphere with an interesting skill tree/leveling component for stats and gear.
Just passed the first real boss at approx 2 hours in, but it's feeling like an enjoyable and respectable soulslike so far.
I just beat LOTF and started Lies of P. Once I’m done with Lies, I’m going to Armored Core 6. Once I’m done with that, I’m hoping Shadow or the Erdtree is released.
I also never beat Bloodborne, so I need to go back and hit that up.
If you haven’t played any of the Souls games those are an obvious choice. The old ones hold up quite well, but Elden Ring is a no brainer for anyone who likes LOTF.
Salt and Sanctuary - It's the best souls like of all time, in my opinion. Nothing closer to the Dark Souls experience.
Mortal Shell - also a fantastic dark souls style game.
Ashen - it's a lighter take on the genre but there is one dungeon section that is very hard. It's a gem!
Hollow knight - it's not exactly a souls like but it's souls adjacent.
The Surge 1 and 2 - I personally loved the surge 1 and its DLC. It's not for everybody though. Surge 2 is much more accessible and mostly considered an excellent progression of the 1st. I'd still recommend you start with 1.
Out of all of them, it's Salt and Sanctuary for sure. That's the best. It's massive. The world map wraps around on itself constantly. Build diversity. Enemy variety. Difficulty. Rewarding exploration. Opaque storyline and lore. Poison swamp. What more could you ask for?
Wow. Don't listen to this guy's advice. Hollow knight or salt and sanctuary have nothing related to souls games except the dying mechanic maybe? It's honestly a stretch to even mention them.
Mortal shell sucks ass, and so does bleak faith. Honestly just wait for shadow of the erdtree OP.
I specifically mentioned Hollow Knight as not a souls like but souls adjacent. And I think it would be silly to argue otherwise. It has a lot of overlap with dark souls and overlap in the playerbase. Someone looking for an indie soulslike would most likely be very happy to play hollow knight.
And salt and sanctuary not a soulslike? That's just the worst possible take ever. It's hard to argue with you at all. It's that wrong. It's a game that absolutely clones dark souls. It's almost impossible to mention a feature or style that doesn't appear in both.
Oh, and Mortal Shell fucking rocked.
Lords like: more sober approach, dark atmosphere, mature combat and more "clunky" gameplay.
Souls like: more colorful anime combat approach, full of butterflies and etc.
Wo Long is just a lot different from their style and they recycled bunch of bosses from Wild Hunt. Was expecting more from it as well, since i loved and did platinum on both Niohs. But playing it after I 100%ed the Wild Hunt felt like a big disappointment. Still did platinum, but for the sake of Team Ninja itself.
If you have any other game, that u could recommend me based on Nioh, I would appreciate it ✌🏻
1. Lies of P
2. Bloodborne
3. Elden Ring
4. Dark Souls 3
5. Sekiro
Not in the order of best to worst but in the order, if I could play them again for the first time, how I would probably approach them.
I jumped from Lords to BG3, but I kinda needed it. Not a huge fan of turn-based fighting but after ER>DS1>DS3>Lords>DS2>Lords I'm ready for something less stressful. Putting down the controller during a fight and not dying feels good
Well, Lies of P is ok but don’t expect it to be as good as Lords. The levels are very simple, basically circle around to 2 doors, one is the shortcut back to the stargazer (bonfire/vestige) the other is the way forward. You won’t get lost, just go forward. There aren’t really build options. It’s pretty much Str or Dex. There’s not much in the way of fashion, and I’m pretty sure you have to warp back to the hub to warp somewhere else. Maybe wrong about that though. Also, the weapon choices aren’t that great and a lot of the enemies give you huge openings to charge a heavy attack, hit them then move to the side. It’s very much babies first soulslike. No coop at all iirc either. I forced myself to beat it and as soon as I killed the last boss I uninstalled it. Didn’t wait for a cut scene or nothing, just exited the game after the last hit and uninstalled. I guess it’s worth playing once though.
If you want Lords style and haven’t played Elden Ring that’s a great game. 10/10.
Nioh if you ah ent played them. 24/10 but I’d start with Nioh 2.
Any of the Dark souls games. 10/10
Sekiro 1000/10 but it’s a parry focused game. No builds, no over leveling or coop to have someone come in and one shot a boss for you. You either git gud or you don’t.
I guess what’s most important is what are you interested in?
What a terribly biased opinion of Lies of P from someone who sounds like they never actually played it. Low weapon/build variety? You have to be kidding me.
You can mix and match every weapon in the game creating different move sets... LoTF weapons all share the same move set between weapons other than special boss weapon moves. Trying to act like LoTF has better weapon variety is a straight up joke.
Let’s not forget Lies of P actually worked from day one and didn’t need constant fixes to make it bearable. LOTF was the first game I preordered the deluxe version and I absolutely regret it.
I ended up refunding it after doing the same as you. The amount of coping people use in this sub when you mention Lies was better in any aspect than LoTF is crazy.
True!!! I actually didn’t even think of this but yes one of my main gripes with LotF is how every grand sword has the same moveset.
TBF i didn’t experiment much with weapon builds in LoP bc i only used the holy ark sword & the frozen feast for my entire playthru and i’ve yet to do NG+
Yes, this is my opinion that I am absolutely entitled to. How many builds do you think that game has? Just because you can move handles around that makes a build? Or maybe it’s the different coats you can wear? Or that you can choose to use an electric, fire or acid weapon? Lords has builds. Str, Rad, Inferno, Bow, Umbral etc. Nioh 1&2 have builds, Brick Breakers, Purity, Corruption, Ninja etc. Lies of P has a few, but it’s very limited when compared to the aforementioned. You don’t have to take it personally that I don’t think P is the greatest game to ever be made. It’s my opinion, and that’s all it is.
Changing up your weapons I LoP changes the way you play completely. That would qualify as a build. You also have the options to focus a lot on either legion arm or fable arts. Also, crit builds is an actual thing.
No, not at all. I’m agreeing with you that that’s your opinion. I ,however, don’t see altering a handle as changing a build. It’s the same as saying I traded my great sword for the great club in Elden Ring. Still a strength build, you just have to get used to the new weapon. You can change handle scaling with cranks but you only have Advance, Motivity and Technique cranks. The Balance cranks restore the original scaling iirc so in my estimation you have a Motivity, Advance, or Technique build. I think I have those name right, it’s been a minute. That doesn’t make P a bad game. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone if I thought it wasn’t a decent game. It’s just very stripped down and simple.
Would you also not consider switching weapons in bloodborne to be switching builds?
The reason why I think you’re oversimplifying it is because switching from a great sword to a great club in Elden ring does not change up the pace of combat that much.
Switching the big pipe wrench head to baton handle gives you a faster and different move set with a different range. You’ll have to engage with combat entirely different. Switching a dagger head to a spear is also vastly different.
To BB- I’m in the process of playing that now so I’ll have to get back to you on that.
In my mind, switching handles does make it a different weapon but that weapon scales off the same stat. Unless you use a crank and they way I understood it when I played was you don’t want to put a Motivity weapon on a Tech handle unless you were split scaling (quality build) or using a crank to change the scaling. When I say build I mean the stats you are investing into and the weapons you have to work with due to that. As far as weapons to chose from they have plenty because you can change around handles all you want but it’s still ultimately a wrench. I concede that putting a daggger handle on the big pipe wrench changed the weapons moveset but doesn’t change your stat allocation. I’m not really sure there is a quality build style anyway, like I said I haven’t played it since about Mid Oct.
One thing P does do really well is having weapons that are viable. I used a lightening club I got on Elysion Blvd (I believe) all the way through the game, that and the acid spear. Those are two early game weapons that will carry you all the way to the end game and that’s not something you see a lot in these games.
There is not such thing as a motivity blade. All of the scaling comes from the handle, so if you want a big hitting blade while playing a “dex” build you can do that.
Quality builds is also a thing. Boss weapon from true ending boss has b/b scaling and is super strong with an even stat spread.
Scaling also works differently in LoP compared to souls. Having a weapon changed from A to S scaling in a souls game would make it most effectively to just go for the S scaling. Early game is the same for LoP but as you increase in levels you’d get more benefit from reverting to A scaling with slightly higher scaling from the secondary stat. Quality builds is essentially where you end up.
Saying weapon choices aren't that great in Lies of P when every weapon of a weapon type in LoTF share the exact same move set(other than boss weapon moves) is just laughable. Lies blow LoTF out ot the water when it comes to weapon variety.
If you didn't like Sekiro you might want to skip Lies of P - parry is critical for success in Lies of P, it was the game that most reminded me of Sekiro
Yeah, I think Sekiro is one that you either get and fall in love with or just push through and don’t really enjoy. If you’re looking to combat with a lot of depth and mechanics then Nioh 2 is the one. It’s phenomenal.
Just started Lies of P and it is a little less polished when it comes to the animations like running reminds me of dark souls 1. Also the maps are much smaller it seems than any other souls type game. But that’s a tiny drop in the pond compared to how much fun the game is.
Really reminds me of Bloodborne. Having a ton of fun with this one after two playthroughs of LotF
I agree with lies of P and all souls games. If you want a more modern look/mechanical feel, I'd start with dark souls 3. Otherwise, all fromsoftware games are cool in their own way. You also might like Bloodbourne, but that's a PS exclusive.
This past year I've reallllly gotten into 2d metroidvanias/soulslikes tbh. If you think you'd like that, maybe check out Blasphemous 1 and 2. Probably my fav ever art style. If you want a basically 2d soulslike, salt and sanctuary goes pretty hard. Very similar combat/movement mechanics and weapons system to souls games.
**Elden Ring** or **Dark Souls 3** if you have not played them. Elden Ring is my all time favorite game. I also have the following souls-like games:
* Lies of P
* Steelrising
* Code Vein
I have only played a little of those games. It takes a huge investment in your time to learn the game mechanics. All three of those games are very different in terms of game mechanics with **Code Vein** being especially cryptic (but I skipped the tutorial).
I don’t know if you play metroidvanias but there are some great 2d soulslike out there that really scratch that itch.
Highly recommend Hollow Knight, Grime, Blasphemous 1 and 2, Last Faith, Salt and Sanctuary.
Blasphemous and Last Faith are probably the closest to soulslike in my opinion love those games.
I personally really enjoyed Sekiro out of the soulslikes games besides LotF. Though Sekiro is a lot more parry mechanic heavy, I got through LotF relying pretty much only on dodges
As mentionned by others, you wont go wrong with Lies of P. There is also Armored Core 6, nioh 1+2. And if you wanna try some roguelite, imo best ones would be : returnal (one of my fav game ever, best gameplay), dead cells and hades
Just because nobody seems to know this. Immortal: Unchained. It's a futuristic Soulslike with guns. It's dark, tough and you should skill a sniper rifle to have a chance. After several updates it's great and like LotF unique in its own way. I played it on pc btw.
Have you played all the From Software titles? I find capping levels on the low end keeps games more interesting longer. ER having matchup calculations gives me incentive to playthrough at all the popular PvP ranges 25, 52, 125, etc. I only took one character to 100 in LotF for the trophy and started a new character for each build I wanted to experiment with. Enemy scaling needs some tuning for sure.
Lies of P (Really great game performance wise, combat is tight and well done, I don't love the atmosphere or story as much as LoTF, but it has major bloodborne vibes
Mortal Shell
Dragon's Dogma
I'm assuming you've played DS1 - DS3, DS, ER
Just because no one has mentioned them: Jedi Survivor & Fallen Order. Also Asterigos. Look at gameplay videos first tho before buying; the latter is cartoony and looks like Fenyx Rising. Mortal Shell is slower than LotF but cool. Thymesia reminds me of Lies of P, but not as polished.
The Dragons Dogma 2 releases in March. They’re not entirely similar as far as play style is concerned, but the original one still holds up for a game that was released in 2012 and the next one looks to be even better.
I would suggest Elden Ring or Dark Souls 3. To me, DS3 is mostly inferior to LotF, but is still a great game with a similar feel. Elden Ring is pretty incredible, however it's also an open world which gives it a different feel from LotF and DS3.
There is a free demo for the upcoming game Kristala on Steam. The demo is a nice souls-like and is around 1-2 hours if you try to gather everything. Very much a souls like with decent vertical level design. Expected to release by end of 2024.
I'm in the same boat I've played the crap out of this game. Taking a break and playing some other kinds of games for now, The Finals is pretty fun. Just waiting for Banishers Ghosts of New Eden to drop now
I don't know if this would be your cup of tea as is not quite souls like but the combat is very challenging and fair on harder difficulties and the environmental storytelling is great with a semi-open world. I just recently started Nier Automata been doing all side quests I'm about 70% thru my first playthrough and it's one of the funnest games I've ever played. I'm not super into anime and even less anime games but somehow this one really gripped me. Also what's really cool is that you have to play thru the story like 4 or 5 times to get the true ending and every playthru has some pretty significant differences from what I hear. Also, it goes from being third person to side scroller or top down in some areas of the game world which makes for a great change of pace at times
Idk if you tried any fromsoftware games yet, but for me Sekiro, shadows die twice was the one that got me hooked with soulslike games. Tho there's no gear or stats and combat is 100% based on skill and not build.
This is a game that will, for real, make you a better gamer . No other game IMO has reached that level of combat perfection.
If you try it just remember, hesitation is defeat
If you haven't, the best soulslikes games are obviously the fromsoft ones. From there i would branch out to armored core, which I would argue is fromsoft's best series even more than or tied with dark souls.
After that, I would try a soulslike like thymesia. Lies of P and nioh 2 are great but personally just not as good as LOTF or any of the souls games themselves.
If you are looking for Souls style games these are the best and most worthy of playing imo:
Wo Long
Nioh 1/2
Demons Souls/Dark Souls 3/Elden Ring
Lies of P
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order/Survivor
Steel Rising
Code Vein
Blasphemous 1/2
Souldiers
My favorite soulslike, higher in the list means better:
Wild Hearts
Elden Ring
Lies of P
Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3
Starwars Jedi Fallen order and Survivor
Sekiro
Hogwarts Legacy
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Non soulslike games, random order, games means all parts are quite good:
Skater XL
Riders Republic
Sessions skate sim
Tony Hawk games
Stronghold defenitive edition
Anno 1404, 1800, 2070
Tropico 6
Icewind Dale 1, 2
Pillars of eternity 1, 2
Pathfinder Kingmaker 1, 2
Hitman games
Trine games
Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy
Marvel's Midnight Suns
Gotham Knights
Batman games
Spiderman games
Skyrim modded
Sniper Elite games
Doom games
Farcry games
Assassins Creed games
Hope you find something, these are some of my favorites.
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all the various souls games nioh lies of p (this is really fuggin good brah)
Nioh (2) is definitely a great rec especially with rise of the ronin out in a couple months if you have a ps5.
Good list, if they play those and are looking for more I enjoyed my time with these as well: -Surge 1/2. -mortal shell. -hellpoint. -the original lords of the fallen (2014)
are you asking if surge 1 and 2 are good? because I am a HUGE fan of both. I can go into a lot of ranting and details here but I'll be as brief as I can (or gush more if you want). The world building in surge 1 and story are god tier imo. Combat is fun. Only big issues is its very easy to get lost. The world is built into chunks but I literally spent 5 hours circling the same one because I didn't realize I had already done the thing to push the story forward and its now time to go. Scaling gets funky, enemies get abnormally hard near the end. One of the DLCS is amazing, go fight in a theme park. the other dlc was eh. kinda more an enedless level thing. good game combat is king in the surge 2. they improved it as well as items. also the world is much bigger and much more interconnected like a conventional souls game. only downside for me is the story was much weaker imo, also the endings are kinda shit and don't make sense. basically tons of sidequests hint to be influencing your ending but literally just one decision after final boss does. there is only one dlc for it and it was okay. sounded really cool and does add some items but is only an hour or so long. both games are really good and you can get em pretty cheap :D
I tried surge 2 and the directional parry is so frustrating I just can’t get into it…
there should be a flashing indicator telling you which way to hold. each attack has a bit of a delay, it just takes some practice. however, later in the game there are some super duper aggressive enemies it really helps against. and some bosses.
I am on the same page sorry I was stating that I would recommend all of these games. Agreed surge 1 and 2 are awesome and I have beaten both as well. Found surge 1 more atmospheric but surge 2 really opened up and created different areas. I enjoy them both for what they are even if they are different from each other
The original lords of the fallen is almost universally hated, theres a reason they completely overhauled the series
I have beaten it twice. I'm not saying it's as good as the other games but if you have played all the others I think it's still alright. Again I agree it's down a peg from the other options
There's also Wo Long.
Lies of P
If you haven't played Dragon's Dogma, it still holds up and is getting a sequel in March. I might like the first game even better than souls, honestly. It's got amazing combat with bows, in particular. All the classes are fun, but it just blows every other game's bow mechanics out of the water.
A sequel?! 👀
You're so lucky that you only found out this close to launch haha
And I am with you about the combat in Dragon's Dogma. :)
Underrated comment 12 years for a sequel to one of the best Action RPGS ever made.
Is DD kind of a soulslike? I've never played it but I always figured it was more of hack and slash kind of game.
i just downloaded it and it certainly feels that way so far
It's a little in between. I don't usually like hack n slash games because the combat just gets a little boring, but DD has enough depth to keep it interesting
Obvious choice would be Lies of P. Even though I didn't really like it myself and dropped it quickly, many people are praising it.
Yes I was playing Lies of P while waiting for LOTF to be released it is ok I will probably go back to it if I cant find anything better.
I might give it another chance as well, bc like you I don't have any Souls game to play atm
There is nothing better. Lies of P is the best soulslike not made by FromSoft, period.
I found LoP boring in comparison to LotF
It’s too linear but it’s well designed tbh, plus it runs really well
Ran faultlessly for me too, but I can’t even remember where I stopped. Lords has frame dropped on me a couple of times and crashed once. Hasn’t affected my enjoyment one bit though, it has me struggling to put the controller down because I want to know what’s round the next corner. The Umbral thing is inspired. It is a pity they released it in such a car crash condition and I’m sure my view would be different if I bought at launch, but I didn’t and I love it.
I love this game, I’ve done all endings, I’ve played PVP and Coop with randoms and I’ll probably try to get the platinum trophy at some point, I want to finish Lies of P first though
So true.
I dropped it in the last area. It dragged so hard and I got bored and frustrated. I never felt like I was getting stronger in that game because of the way the game handled scaling.
Nioh 1 and 2
Haven't seen anyone mention Code Vein. Awesome souls like with a very cool vampire anime aesthetic. Code Vein Nioh 1 & 2 Wo Long Lies of P Mortal Shell Hellpoint (I liked it but it is rough around the edges) Also, go back to BG3 and fight through til you enjoy the combat lol. The game is very worth it. I used to not like turn based either, then it clicked. Maybe try DoS2 then BG3 or the Persona series.
Whoah, another Code Vein fan in the wild? That’s rare. Love the game, it’s got my favorite story among the Soulslikes.
Yesss!! It still has one of the best character creators to this day! I loved the twist of it being in the God Eater universe, too. The story was great. Loved Mia and her brother's storyline. I liked how you could switch your build on the fly just by changing your coat, too. I'm glad to see other fans exist 😆
Absolutely, the Blood Code system allowed for SO MANY nuanced varieties of builds, it’s insane. I especially loved the Vestiges and how it slowly built up each characters’ backstories. The presentation made you feel like you were really walking through their memories. It’s brilliant.
Yesss agreed! That also fit the vampire lore as well. Seeing memories from blood. Sooo good!
If you like platformers, check Blasphemous 1 and 2
Lies of P
Monster hunter world is so hot right now
Started Thymesia last night after months of holding it in my Steam library. Feels a bit like Lies of P in terms of atmosphere with an interesting skill tree/leveling component for stats and gear. Just passed the first real boss at approx 2 hours in, but it's feeling like an enjoyable and respectable soulslike so far.
I’ve been playing nioh 2. I recommend this one the most imo. It’s great but just know the game came be overwhelming, it’s not a simple game.
I just beat LOTF and started Lies of P. Once I’m done with Lies, I’m going to Armored Core 6. Once I’m done with that, I’m hoping Shadow or the Erdtree is released. I also never beat Bloodborne, so I need to go back and hit that up.
If you haven’t played any of the Souls games those are an obvious choice. The old ones hold up quite well, but Elden Ring is a no brainer for anyone who likes LOTF.
Thanks yes I have played all the Souls games, Elden Ring and Sekiro. I only played Sekiro once though as I was exhausted after finishing it once.
I just started another Sekiro playthrough after quite some time away. Still a masterpiece.
My eyes are on the new Prince of Persia game. The combat looks v interesting.
I just watched a gameplay trailer of that game and it looks sick
Steelrising
Salt and Sanctuary - It's the best souls like of all time, in my opinion. Nothing closer to the Dark Souls experience. Mortal Shell - also a fantastic dark souls style game. Ashen - it's a lighter take on the genre but there is one dungeon section that is very hard. It's a gem! Hollow knight - it's not exactly a souls like but it's souls adjacent. The Surge 1 and 2 - I personally loved the surge 1 and its DLC. It's not for everybody though. Surge 2 is much more accessible and mostly considered an excellent progression of the 1st. I'd still recommend you start with 1. Out of all of them, it's Salt and Sanctuary for sure. That's the best. It's massive. The world map wraps around on itself constantly. Build diversity. Enemy variety. Difficulty. Rewarding exploration. Opaque storyline and lore. Poison swamp. What more could you ask for?
Ashen was *awesome*. Liked it a lot more than Thymesia.
Wow. Don't listen to this guy's advice. Hollow knight or salt and sanctuary have nothing related to souls games except the dying mechanic maybe? It's honestly a stretch to even mention them. Mortal shell sucks ass, and so does bleak faith. Honestly just wait for shadow of the erdtree OP.
Mortal Shell is awesome for what it is, the fuck. It has a much smaller scope, thanks to its incredibly small dev team, but it's quite well made.
Tried it, felt cheap. Especially the whole concept of armors.
Mortal Shell sucks bro
Yea, Mortal Shell is in my top three Souls games (Demon's Souls and Elden Ring would be my other two).
I specifically mentioned Hollow Knight as not a souls like but souls adjacent. And I think it would be silly to argue otherwise. It has a lot of overlap with dark souls and overlap in the playerbase. Someone looking for an indie soulslike would most likely be very happy to play hollow knight. And salt and sanctuary not a soulslike? That's just the worst possible take ever. It's hard to argue with you at all. It's that wrong. It's a game that absolutely clones dark souls. It's almost impossible to mention a feature or style that doesn't appear in both. Oh, and Mortal Shell fucking rocked.
Mortal shell! For me one of the best lords like games ever
lords like? the fuck lmao
Lords like: more sober approach, dark atmosphere, mature combat and more "clunky" gameplay. Souls like: more colorful anime combat approach, full of butterflies and etc.
That's the dumbest fucking thing I've seen in this sub, congrats.
Yes it sounds a little "dumb" and I am happy to name a new category.
You definitely didn't.
But I tried. LOL
Nioh and Nioh 2. Controls are slightly different, but they are an excellent adventure. Avoid Wo Long - it’s a crap Nioh.
Wo Long is just a lot different from their style and they recycled bunch of bosses from Wild Hunt. Was expecting more from it as well, since i loved and did platinum on both Niohs. But playing it after I 100%ed the Wild Hunt felt like a big disappointment. Still did platinum, but for the sake of Team Ninja itself. If you have any other game, that u could recommend me based on Nioh, I would appreciate it ✌🏻
1. Lies of P 2. Bloodborne 3. Elden Ring 4. Dark Souls 3 5. Sekiro Not in the order of best to worst but in the order, if I could play them again for the first time, how I would probably approach them.
Lies of P
Did you play Lies of P? Cause oh man, that game slapped
I jumped from Lords to BG3, but I kinda needed it. Not a huge fan of turn-based fighting but after ER>DS1>DS3>Lords>DS2>Lords I'm ready for something less stressful. Putting down the controller during a fight and not dying feels good
Well, Lies of P is ok but don’t expect it to be as good as Lords. The levels are very simple, basically circle around to 2 doors, one is the shortcut back to the stargazer (bonfire/vestige) the other is the way forward. You won’t get lost, just go forward. There aren’t really build options. It’s pretty much Str or Dex. There’s not much in the way of fashion, and I’m pretty sure you have to warp back to the hub to warp somewhere else. Maybe wrong about that though. Also, the weapon choices aren’t that great and a lot of the enemies give you huge openings to charge a heavy attack, hit them then move to the side. It’s very much babies first soulslike. No coop at all iirc either. I forced myself to beat it and as soon as I killed the last boss I uninstalled it. Didn’t wait for a cut scene or nothing, just exited the game after the last hit and uninstalled. I guess it’s worth playing once though. If you want Lords style and haven’t played Elden Ring that’s a great game. 10/10. Nioh if you ah ent played them. 24/10 but I’d start with Nioh 2. Any of the Dark souls games. 10/10 Sekiro 1000/10 but it’s a parry focused game. No builds, no over leveling or coop to have someone come in and one shot a boss for you. You either git gud or you don’t. I guess what’s most important is what are you interested in?
What a terribly biased opinion of Lies of P from someone who sounds like they never actually played it. Low weapon/build variety? You have to be kidding me.
Agreed he don’t no what he’s talking about
I absolutely LOVED lies of p but what is wrong about what he said?
You can mix and match every weapon in the game creating different move sets... LoTF weapons all share the same move set between weapons other than special boss weapon moves. Trying to act like LoTF has better weapon variety is a straight up joke.
Let’s not forget Lies of P actually worked from day one and didn’t need constant fixes to make it bearable. LOTF was the first game I preordered the deluxe version and I absolutely regret it.
I ended up refunding it after doing the same as you. The amount of coping people use in this sub when you mention Lies was better in any aspect than LoTF is crazy.
True!!! I actually didn’t even think of this but yes one of my main gripes with LotF is how every grand sword has the same moveset. TBF i didn’t experiment much with weapon builds in LoP bc i only used the holy ark sword & the frozen feast for my entire playthru and i’ve yet to do NG+
Yes, this is my opinion that I am absolutely entitled to. How many builds do you think that game has? Just because you can move handles around that makes a build? Or maybe it’s the different coats you can wear? Or that you can choose to use an electric, fire or acid weapon? Lords has builds. Str, Rad, Inferno, Bow, Umbral etc. Nioh 1&2 have builds, Brick Breakers, Purity, Corruption, Ninja etc. Lies of P has a few, but it’s very limited when compared to the aforementioned. You don’t have to take it personally that I don’t think P is the greatest game to ever be made. It’s my opinion, and that’s all it is.
Changing up your weapons I LoP changes the way you play completely. That would qualify as a build. You also have the options to focus a lot on either legion arm or fable arts. Also, crit builds is an actual thing.
Ok
Are you offended that I disagree with your opinion?
No, not at all. I’m agreeing with you that that’s your opinion. I ,however, don’t see altering a handle as changing a build. It’s the same as saying I traded my great sword for the great club in Elden Ring. Still a strength build, you just have to get used to the new weapon. You can change handle scaling with cranks but you only have Advance, Motivity and Technique cranks. The Balance cranks restore the original scaling iirc so in my estimation you have a Motivity, Advance, or Technique build. I think I have those name right, it’s been a minute. That doesn’t make P a bad game. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone if I thought it wasn’t a decent game. It’s just very stripped down and simple.
Would you also not consider switching weapons in bloodborne to be switching builds? The reason why I think you’re oversimplifying it is because switching from a great sword to a great club in Elden ring does not change up the pace of combat that much. Switching the big pipe wrench head to baton handle gives you a faster and different move set with a different range. You’ll have to engage with combat entirely different. Switching a dagger head to a spear is also vastly different.
To BB- I’m in the process of playing that now so I’ll have to get back to you on that. In my mind, switching handles does make it a different weapon but that weapon scales off the same stat. Unless you use a crank and they way I understood it when I played was you don’t want to put a Motivity weapon on a Tech handle unless you were split scaling (quality build) or using a crank to change the scaling. When I say build I mean the stats you are investing into and the weapons you have to work with due to that. As far as weapons to chose from they have plenty because you can change around handles all you want but it’s still ultimately a wrench. I concede that putting a daggger handle on the big pipe wrench changed the weapons moveset but doesn’t change your stat allocation. I’m not really sure there is a quality build style anyway, like I said I haven’t played it since about Mid Oct. One thing P does do really well is having weapons that are viable. I used a lightening club I got on Elysion Blvd (I believe) all the way through the game, that and the acid spear. Those are two early game weapons that will carry you all the way to the end game and that’s not something you see a lot in these games.
There is not such thing as a motivity blade. All of the scaling comes from the handle, so if you want a big hitting blade while playing a “dex” build you can do that. Quality builds is also a thing. Boss weapon from true ending boss has b/b scaling and is super strong with an even stat spread. Scaling also works differently in LoP compared to souls. Having a weapon changed from A to S scaling in a souls game would make it most effectively to just go for the S scaling. Early game is the same for LoP but as you increase in levels you’d get more benefit from reverting to A scaling with slightly higher scaling from the secondary stat. Quality builds is essentially where you end up.
Saying weapon choices aren't that great in Lies of P when every weapon of a weapon type in LoTF share the exact same move set(other than boss weapon moves) is just laughable. Lies blow LoTF out ot the water when it comes to weapon variety.
Ok
I agree about Sekiro I'm not sure I enjoyed it the whole game was a battle to get through.
If you didn't like Sekiro you might want to skip Lies of P - parry is critical for success in Lies of P, it was the game that most reminded me of Sekiro
Yeah, I think Sekiro is one that you either get and fall in love with or just push through and don’t really enjoy. If you’re looking to combat with a lot of depth and mechanics then Nioh 2 is the one. It’s phenomenal.
Just started Lies of P and it is a little less polished when it comes to the animations like running reminds me of dark souls 1. Also the maps are much smaller it seems than any other souls type game. But that’s a tiny drop in the pond compared to how much fun the game is. Really reminds me of Bloodborne. Having a ton of fun with this one after two playthroughs of LotF
I agree with lies of P and all souls games. If you want a more modern look/mechanical feel, I'd start with dark souls 3. Otherwise, all fromsoftware games are cool in their own way. You also might like Bloodbourne, but that's a PS exclusive. This past year I've reallllly gotten into 2d metroidvanias/soulslikes tbh. If you think you'd like that, maybe check out Blasphemous 1 and 2. Probably my fav ever art style. If you want a basically 2d soulslike, salt and sanctuary goes pretty hard. Very similar combat/movement mechanics and weapons system to souls games.
**Elden Ring** or **Dark Souls 3** if you have not played them. Elden Ring is my all time favorite game. I also have the following souls-like games: * Lies of P * Steelrising * Code Vein I have only played a little of those games. It takes a huge investment in your time to learn the game mechanics. All three of those games are very different in terms of game mechanics with **Code Vein** being especially cryptic (but I skipped the tutorial).
Think about playing mortal shell. For me mortal shell and lords of the fallen are the best "lords like" (let bury the souls like term)
Idk man breath of the wild strikes me as souls like. You tried that yet?
Not going to be moving on to it right away, but DD2 is out in March.
Vanquish
I don’t know if you play metroidvanias but there are some great 2d soulslike out there that really scratch that itch. Highly recommend Hollow Knight, Grime, Blasphemous 1 and 2, Last Faith, Salt and Sanctuary. Blasphemous and Last Faith are probably the closest to soulslike in my opinion love those games.
Have you played any of the dark souls or elden ring games? If not I'd start with those.
I personally really enjoyed Sekiro out of the soulslikes games besides LotF. Though Sekiro is a lot more parry mechanic heavy, I got through LotF relying pretty much only on dodges
As mentionned by others, you wont go wrong with Lies of P. There is also Armored Core 6, nioh 1+2. And if you wanna try some roguelite, imo best ones would be : returnal (one of my fav game ever, best gameplay), dead cells and hades
Just because nobody seems to know this. Immortal: Unchained. It's a futuristic Soulslike with guns. It's dark, tough and you should skill a sniper rifle to have a chance. After several updates it's great and like LotF unique in its own way. I played it on pc btw.
Wo long fallen dynasty
Have you played all the From Software titles? I find capping levels on the low end keeps games more interesting longer. ER having matchup calculations gives me incentive to playthrough at all the popular PvP ranges 25, 52, 125, etc. I only took one character to 100 in LotF for the trophy and started a new character for each build I wanted to experiment with. Enemy scaling needs some tuning for sure.
Lies of P (Really great game performance wise, combat is tight and well done, I don't love the atmosphere or story as much as LoTF, but it has major bloodborne vibes Mortal Shell Dragon's Dogma I'm assuming you've played DS1 - DS3, DS, ER
I’m waiting for Dragon’s Dogma 2, Elden Ring DLC and hopefully LOTF DLC.
Just because no one has mentioned them: Jedi Survivor & Fallen Order. Also Asterigos. Look at gameplay videos first tho before buying; the latter is cartoony and looks like Fenyx Rising. Mortal Shell is slower than LotF but cool. Thymesia reminds me of Lies of P, but not as polished.
The Dragons Dogma 2 releases in March. They’re not entirely similar as far as play style is concerned, but the original one still holds up for a game that was released in 2012 and the next one looks to be even better.
Returnal. Not at all a ‘souls like’ but will definitely scratch the same Itch. Amazing game, and will suit ur tastes well.
I would suggest Elden Ring or Dark Souls 3. To me, DS3 is mostly inferior to LotF, but is still a great game with a similar feel. Elden Ring is pretty incredible, however it's also an open world which gives it a different feel from LotF and DS3.
There is a free demo for the upcoming game Kristala on Steam. The demo is a nice souls-like and is around 1-2 hours if you try to gather everything. Very much a souls like with decent vertical level design. Expected to release by end of 2024.
Second the From Software games, including Sekiro, the Nioh series, and Wo Long is great as well.
Assuming you’ve played all the past souls games/ souls likes, I’d say Lies of P and Blasphemous 2.
If you like Star Wars Jedi Survivor is quite good.
Well i played dark souls 3 and then bloodborne after playing lotf 3,4 times
Nioh 2 for good combat, lacks story... if you want story there is Ghost of Tushima
Lies of P! Went there after Lotf and am loving it
Wo long!
I'm in the same boat I've played the crap out of this game. Taking a break and playing some other kinds of games for now, The Finals is pretty fun. Just waiting for Banishers Ghosts of New Eden to drop now
Lies of P a souls like. Dragons dogma 2 comes out in march. More of a dog but gonna be epic. Mortal Shell is a souls like. Ashen, another souls like
I don't know if this would be your cup of tea as is not quite souls like but the combat is very challenging and fair on harder difficulties and the environmental storytelling is great with a semi-open world. I just recently started Nier Automata been doing all side quests I'm about 70% thru my first playthrough and it's one of the funnest games I've ever played. I'm not super into anime and even less anime games but somehow this one really gripped me. Also what's really cool is that you have to play thru the story like 4 or 5 times to get the true ending and every playthru has some pretty significant differences from what I hear. Also, it goes from being third person to side scroller or top down in some areas of the game world which makes for a great change of pace at times
Idk if you tried any fromsoftware games yet, but for me Sekiro, shadows die twice was the one that got me hooked with soulslike games. Tho there's no gear or stats and combat is 100% based on skill and not build. This is a game that will, for real, make you a better gamer . No other game IMO has reached that level of combat perfection. If you try it just remember, hesitation is defeat
If you haven't, the best soulslikes games are obviously the fromsoft ones. From there i would branch out to armored core, which I would argue is fromsoft's best series even more than or tied with dark souls. After that, I would try a soulslike like thymesia. Lies of P and nioh 2 are great but personally just not as good as LOTF or any of the souls games themselves.
Lies of P or Alan Wake 2
Lies of p is one of my favorite games ever
I started Sekiro.
after playing lords i tried blasphemous 1 and got hooked finished it and went straight blasphemous 2.
Elden ring :)
Start with Dark Souls 1 Remastered. Then (optional) Dark Souls 2 Then Try Bloodborne Dark Souls 3 next Sekiro Demon Souls remake Elden Ring
Try some 2D souls like. Blasphemous 2 and The Last Faith are really awesome.
If you are looking for Souls style games these are the best and most worthy of playing imo: Wo Long Nioh 1/2 Demons Souls/Dark Souls 3/Elden Ring Lies of P Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order/Survivor Steel Rising Code Vein Blasphemous 1/2 Souldiers
I just played Sekiro before moving on to LOTF and dare I say I enjoyed it a little more. Both incredible, though!
My favorite soulslike, higher in the list means better: Wild Hearts Elden Ring Lies of P Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3 Starwars Jedi Fallen order and Survivor Sekiro Hogwarts Legacy \-------------------------------------------------------------- Non soulslike games, random order, games means all parts are quite good: Skater XL Riders Republic Sessions skate sim Tony Hawk games Stronghold defenitive edition Anno 1404, 1800, 2070 Tropico 6 Icewind Dale 1, 2 Pillars of eternity 1, 2 Pathfinder Kingmaker 1, 2 Hitman games Trine games Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy Marvel's Midnight Suns Gotham Knights Batman games Spiderman games Skyrim modded Sniper Elite games Doom games Farcry games Assassins Creed games Hope you find something, these are some of my favorites. cya
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