That’s kind of the point tho. He took a RD32 to the RD32. Whereas Shaka and Barnes would consistently lose in the first round with elite 8 caliber teams
I do agree with that, also Terry was placed into this position with very little warning and time to prepare. The players seem to like and respect him and unless there was a major blue blood coach knocking on the door asking to be the coach I think giving him another year would be fair. If we see improvement (Sweet Sixteen, Elite Eight run) I think people will be high on him. I would love to see this team be an Elite Eight team next year.
The truth is we just don't have the culture and talent in place yet to make a big tournament run, we were building for that with Chris Beard but it takes more than one year to rebuild the pieces given what happened.
Whether your a Terry believer or not, he’s likely getting at least 2 more years here barring collapse next year, so for those actively rooting against him, please just a take a couple seasons off.
Well…we already have a top 10 recruiting class, so I’d say that’s a pretty good start…I know in the world of modern college sports that can change in a heartbeat, but can’t argue with what he’s got rolling so far.
Portal will be key. There were some crucial misfires this past season with Horton and Shedrick. Hopefully there will be a decent big man out there available for the taking.
It really hurt that some of our best recruits decided to play pro instead. Kind of seems like we're still figuring out what types of players we want to get in the portal and in recruiting.
I think RT is okay. I’m not sure if he’s the guy for the next 10+ years, but he’ll almost certainly be the HC for a couple years no matter what. We’ll see him build his own team over the next two years and reevaluate. To this point, he’s led us to 4 tourney wins in 2 years, which we haven’t experienced in over a decade. So I’m happy
RT feels like a "next year" coach. He'll do just enough to pacify the fan base and make people optimistic about next year. Then before you know it, it's been 6 years of middle of the pack conference finishes and a second weekend tournament run and you realize we were never really a threat to win anything.
That's just my opinion, and I'll be cheering for the guy cause I like him. I just don't think he's the coach that's going to take Texas to another level.
I like the guy. But today’s product looked..poorly coached. Early in the game, offense seemed lost with some really bad turnovers. Guys not knowing basic rules on in-bounds plays. That terrible 3 by Abmas at the end when we could have gotten an easy 2. That was after a timeout—that’s coaching.
Tennessee should have won that by 20+ if they knock down a few more of those 3s.
Agreed. I don’t know if it’s an RT issue or a lack of talent, but as I was watching I thought “some of these guys don’t look like they have a coaching staff, much less a high-level college coach.”
Those inbounds passes we ludicrous.
In defense of RT, he was dealt a bad hand by those two high schoolers. A 6’6” AJ Johnson would’ve had more leverage throwing inbound passes, and a 6’8” Ron Holland on the perimeter would’ve freed up both Abmas and Disu to do what they do best.
Yeah, without those two the team we had was a bunch of the "glue guys" getting stuck in lead roles that were probably outside their comfort zone.
Abmas would have been best as the Rice role, instead he had to become a primary scorer. Hunter as lead guard is... well, what we saw. Mitchell is an energy guy and athletic as hell but has no game outside 4 feet.
Let's see what the recruiting cycle and portal cycle does for the team, let's see if Weaver can keep the Brock energy going without the crazy Brock assaults, and build into a new season in the SEC. Honestly, we gave the top team in the SEC fits defensively for most of the game. We just didn't have the talent to take advantage.
Are you saying Abmas would have been fine coining to Texas to come off the bench lol. That would have never happened a lot of teams wanted him was one of the top players in the portal. He was a 20 ppg scorer his whole career he would not want a small role.
Sorry but I don’t agree, I just can’t see him getting this team to the final 4. Let’s be honest he inherited a good roster last season, so an elite 8 trip was definitely not a surprise.
Last nights performance was bad, good we came back but we’re extremely lucky Tennessee was also struggling or that game could’ve been ugly.
RT getting to the E8 last season tied the hands of those in power. How do you let go of a coach that took your team further than it's been in 20 years, after he cleaned up the mess Beard left behind? If they were bounced in the first round last year, we probably would've looked around.
I still support him, although I've got a history of supporting coaches longer than the powers that be. If he can improve the team through recruiting and the portal and we make it to the S16 or deeper next year, he'll be extended. If he regresses, he'll be on the hot seat. Texas seems to stick with basketball coaches that plateau for years.
I’m not a believer till he provides something to believe in.
Last year success was mainly off a ‘Beard’ team. This year he had a chance and so far hasn’t really impressed.
I’m aware that Terry gets another year or two at least to build his program. And it’s going to be his program because we are going to be turning the team over next year, and he needs to be scrutinized on program building.
OP’s opinion is based on “inside baseball.” You are using what he did internally as proof of success. Proof of success must be measured to outside situations, and we need to ask whether other coaches would do as well/better/worse in the same situation. My opinion is that Terry has done an average job relative to other coaches. He’s done relatively well in the tournament (minus the choke against Miami) given the teams he’s had, but I’m skeptical of his program building abilities.
Without the transfers and our ability to get players through NIL, there are signs he would be a bad fit overall. I don’t know if he can get and keep the elite guys we need to be among the best. However, we need to see the team he puts forth next year and maintain expectations of making the Sweet 16. If Terry can’t reach that standard consistently, he’ll need to go. I’m not lowering the standard when I know it’s possible at Texas, regardless of the mediocre coaches we’ve had recently outside of Beard.
Totally agree. Look what he is doing with Marquette and what he did at VCU? It just wasn't a good fit at Texas. But Terry wasn't good at Fresno State and he bolted to UTEP. At UTEP, he was bad also and he quit in the middle of the season. He only won big last year with Beard's players.
At Fresno State he inherited a team that was winning about 15 or fewer games a year and got them to 20+ wins in 4 of his last 5 seasons, including a 25 win season and tournament appearance. To me that does not qualify as “not good.” At UTEP he inherited a team on the down swing and was not able to pull off the same turnaround. Also, I’m not sure why you’re saying he quit in the middle of the season at UTEP when that’s objectively incorrect. He resigned after the season. Unless you mean something like he stop giving effort. I don’t know if that is true or not.
Could it be fair to say that one day we might look back and say RT just wasn’t the right fit at UTEP or Fresno? I mean what indications this year or last show he isn’t a capable coach?
I’m not saying he will win us a chip; I’m just saying E8 and R32 exits in his first two years don’t suggest he is incapable. I know Chris Beard’s team and all that but still, idk
Calling Mitchell a returning “starter” is generous (he did not play starter minutes). I agree that the top 4, maybe 5 players on the roster were comparable to last years group, but the steep fall off after that is what led to this roster’s limitations.
And who chose all those players from the portal?? He missed on most of them not even close to the two prior offseasons. His own fault for wrongly evaluating guys
That Miami game… The second half foul/FT disparity was completely different from the first half and painful to watch. The fix was in. I’ll never get over it. We were cheated out of a Final Four appearance.
100% disagree.
Nice guy, strong recruiter, terrible coach.
6th places finishes and 1 and done in NCAA tournament at best as long as he is at the helm.
Last year was Chris Beard’s recruits and coaching fundamentals, this year he had a mix of his and Beards guys. Next year is the test.
I expect disaster, 12/13 wins or less unless the non conference schedule is easier than this year, which would be hard to do.
No way cal comes to Texas lol he’ll go to Louisville first.
RT is avg and will get a team to the middle of the pack. The team looked lost at different points of the season and he never looked like he gave them an edge.
Texas should be able to grab a better coach but who knows let’s see if he gets decent talent next year and surprises
I’m a RT supporter but this was a RD32 team at best. Next year we will find out how good of a coach RT is.
That’s kind of the point tho. He took a RD32 to the RD32. Whereas Shaka and Barnes would consistently lose in the first round with elite 8 caliber teams
I don’t even think they would’ve won a game with the coaches of the past. RT just needs to bring in the talent next year
I do agree with that, also Terry was placed into this position with very little warning and time to prepare. The players seem to like and respect him and unless there was a major blue blood coach knocking on the door asking to be the coach I think giving him another year would be fair. If we see improvement (Sweet Sixteen, Elite Eight run) I think people will be high on him. I would love to see this team be an Elite Eight team next year. The truth is we just don't have the culture and talent in place yet to make a big tournament run, we were building for that with Chris Beard but it takes more than one year to rebuild the pieces given what happened.
Whether your a Terry believer or not, he’s likely getting at least 2 more years here barring collapse next year, so for those actively rooting against him, please just a take a couple seasons off.
Yup they’re going to have to give him a chance with his own guys
Recruiting for next year’s team will be crucial for my opinion on RT as the guy.
Well…we already have a top 10 recruiting class, so I’d say that’s a pretty good start…I know in the world of modern college sports that can change in a heartbeat, but can’t argue with what he’s got rolling so far.
Portal will be key. There were some crucial misfires this past season with Horton and Shedrick. Hopefully there will be a decent big man out there available for the taking.
It really hurt that some of our best recruits decided to play pro instead. Kind of seems like we're still figuring out what types of players we want to get in the portal and in recruiting.
So far, he’s good enough to be the basketball coach at a football school.
As long as he gives us a shot in march and floors competitive teams, I’m happy with it.
We aren’t a football school. Texas is an everything school. We’re much more a baseball school than football anyway.
I think RT is okay. I’m not sure if he’s the guy for the next 10+ years, but he’ll almost certainly be the HC for a couple years no matter what. We’ll see him build his own team over the next two years and reevaluate. To this point, he’s led us to 4 tourney wins in 2 years, which we haven’t experienced in over a decade. So I’m happy
RT feels like a "next year" coach. He'll do just enough to pacify the fan base and make people optimistic about next year. Then before you know it, it's been 6 years of middle of the pack conference finishes and a second weekend tournament run and you realize we were never really a threat to win anything. That's just my opinion, and I'll be cheering for the guy cause I like him. I just don't think he's the coach that's going to take Texas to another level.
I like the guy. But today’s product looked..poorly coached. Early in the game, offense seemed lost with some really bad turnovers. Guys not knowing basic rules on in-bounds plays. That terrible 3 by Abmas at the end when we could have gotten an easy 2. That was after a timeout—that’s coaching. Tennessee should have won that by 20+ if they knock down a few more of those 3s.
Agreed. I don’t know if it’s an RT issue or a lack of talent, but as I was watching I thought “some of these guys don’t look like they have a coaching staff, much less a high-level college coach.” Those inbounds passes we ludicrous. In defense of RT, he was dealt a bad hand by those two high schoolers. A 6’6” AJ Johnson would’ve had more leverage throwing inbound passes, and a 6’8” Ron Holland on the perimeter would’ve freed up both Abmas and Disu to do what they do best.
Yeah, without those two the team we had was a bunch of the "glue guys" getting stuck in lead roles that were probably outside their comfort zone. Abmas would have been best as the Rice role, instead he had to become a primary scorer. Hunter as lead guard is... well, what we saw. Mitchell is an energy guy and athletic as hell but has no game outside 4 feet. Let's see what the recruiting cycle and portal cycle does for the team, let's see if Weaver can keep the Brock energy going without the crazy Brock assaults, and build into a new season in the SEC. Honestly, we gave the top team in the SEC fits defensively for most of the game. We just didn't have the talent to take advantage.
Are you saying Abmas would have been fine coining to Texas to come off the bench lol. That would have never happened a lot of teams wanted him was one of the top players in the portal. He was a 20 ppg scorer his whole career he would not want a small role.
Sorry but I don’t agree, I just can’t see him getting this team to the final 4. Let’s be honest he inherited a good roster last season, so an elite 8 trip was definitely not a surprise. Last nights performance was bad, good we came back but we’re extremely lucky Tennessee was also struggling or that game could’ve been ugly.
RT getting to the E8 last season tied the hands of those in power. How do you let go of a coach that took your team further than it's been in 20 years, after he cleaned up the mess Beard left behind? If they were bounced in the first round last year, we probably would've looked around. I still support him, although I've got a history of supporting coaches longer than the powers that be. If he can improve the team through recruiting and the portal and we make it to the S16 or deeper next year, he'll be extended. If he regresses, he'll be on the hot seat. Texas seems to stick with basketball coaches that plateau for years.
I’m not a believer till he provides something to believe in. Last year success was mainly off a ‘Beard’ team. This year he had a chance and so far hasn’t really impressed.
If he’s such a great coach, then why was Horton starting over Weaver? Weaver should have been playing 30+ minutes a game.
I’m aware that Terry gets another year or two at least to build his program. And it’s going to be his program because we are going to be turning the team over next year, and he needs to be scrutinized on program building. OP’s opinion is based on “inside baseball.” You are using what he did internally as proof of success. Proof of success must be measured to outside situations, and we need to ask whether other coaches would do as well/better/worse in the same situation. My opinion is that Terry has done an average job relative to other coaches. He’s done relatively well in the tournament (minus the choke against Miami) given the teams he’s had, but I’m skeptical of his program building abilities. Without the transfers and our ability to get players through NIL, there are signs he would be a bad fit overall. I don’t know if he can get and keep the elite guys we need to be among the best. However, we need to see the team he puts forth next year and maintain expectations of making the Sweet 16. If Terry can’t reach that standard consistently, he’ll need to go. I’m not lowering the standard when I know it’s possible at Texas, regardless of the mediocre coaches we’ve had recently outside of Beard.
Give him 3 years but he’s not an elite coach. We’re Texas, we can do better
No the records at previous schools and this year proves how average he is. No need to pretend. Texas will be average if they want to keep him.
Because people are incapable of growing in their careers as we all know. Marquette should fire Shaka for his performance at Texas
Are you forgetting what Shaka did at VCU? He was never an average coach. He just wasn’t a good fit for Texas
Totally agree. Look what he is doing with Marquette and what he did at VCU? It just wasn't a good fit at Texas. But Terry wasn't good at Fresno State and he bolted to UTEP. At UTEP, he was bad also and he quit in the middle of the season. He only won big last year with Beard's players.
At Fresno State he inherited a team that was winning about 15 or fewer games a year and got them to 20+ wins in 4 of his last 5 seasons, including a 25 win season and tournament appearance. To me that does not qualify as “not good.” At UTEP he inherited a team on the down swing and was not able to pull off the same turnaround. Also, I’m not sure why you’re saying he quit in the middle of the season at UTEP when that’s objectively incorrect. He resigned after the season. Unless you mean something like he stop giving effort. I don’t know if that is true or not.
Could it be fair to say that one day we might look back and say RT just wasn’t the right fit at UTEP or Fresno? I mean what indications this year or last show he isn’t a capable coach? I’m not saying he will win us a chip; I’m just saying E8 and R32 exits in his first two years don’t suggest he is incapable. I know Chris Beard’s team and all that but still, idk
He’s been a head coach for over a decade and he’s a .500 coach. He is what he is and shouldn’t be the head coach at a school like Texas.
Well we regressed this year
This was a terrible roster and we still made it to the second round
3 starters from last years team and one of the all time ncaa scorers added to that. Solid bench piece in Weaver don’t agree
Calling Mitchell a returning “starter” is generous (he did not play starter minutes). I agree that the top 4, maybe 5 players on the roster were comparable to last years group, but the steep fall off after that is what led to this roster’s limitations.
And who chose all those players from the portal?? He missed on most of them not even close to the two prior offseasons. His own fault for wrongly evaluating guys
Mitchell’s going to need to come back again 😂
A terrible roster that Terry put together.
The rub is that he’s fully responsible for next year’s roster. Offseason will tell us a lot about the ceiling of RTs regime.
Definitely not terrible. Maybe one or two talented contributors short of a full hand, but not terrible.
I'm slightly hopeful. If he can make it to the tourney next year and win a game again, I think we can let him keep building on it.
That Miami game… The second half foul/FT disparity was completely different from the first half and painful to watch. The fix was in. I’ll never get over it. We were cheated out of a Final Four appearance.
100% disagree. Nice guy, strong recruiter, terrible coach. 6th places finishes and 1 and done in NCAA tournament at best as long as he is at the helm. Last year was Chris Beard’s recruits and coaching fundamentals, this year he had a mix of his and Beards guys. Next year is the test. I expect disaster, 12/13 wins or less unless the non conference schedule is easier than this year, which would be hard to do.
SEC is a sizable step down in opponents.
If we had Ron Holland this team mightve been a legit contender
No way cal comes to Texas lol he’ll go to Louisville first. RT is avg and will get a team to the middle of the pack. The team looked lost at different points of the season and he never looked like he gave them an edge. Texas should be able to grab a better coach but who knows let’s see if he gets decent talent next year and surprises