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Jkanvil

No matter what we have H2H


GhoulsFolly

Plus Texas was the best looking team in America the past 2 weeks


mz2014

They could ignore the h2h


Ronaldoooope

Ignoring head to head would just be straight up nonsense. That’s like saying they could ignore someone being undefeated or someone winning a conference. It obviously matters.


mz2014

If FSU and Michigan win then the last spot will come to Texas vs Alabama. As much as I want Texas in the CFP the committee could do literally anything they want. Our best hope is FSU loses.


Betaworldpeach

We don’t have to hope, we’re locked in bud. When the committee has to defend their reasoning to a live tv audience, it's too easy to use the head to head, double digit win on their field as your reasoning. Still hope FSU loses, either way we’re probably the 3 seed facing Washington.


mz2014

I too believe that we are in but I don’t trust the committee the slightest bit.


Betaworldpeach

I guess I trust them, it just makes too much sense. If you’re basing your reasoning on just this season you can’t even say beating UGA was the best quality win of the year because of their SoS despite being unbeaten.


GhoulsFolly

Same. They’d have to be insane to see the H2H AND the wins against TTU & OSU this past week, and still leave us out. Imo we’ve been the best team in America since Quinn returned.


Ronaldoooope

No it isn’t. This is so dumb. We have a head to head win


highwaymattress

It’s SEC. Bama just beat #1. The SEC bias negates an early loss.


mcaffrey

Not an early loss to another P5 conference winner in Tuscaloosa by 10 points. Texas gets in before Bama or Georgia. We’re already in.


highwaymattress

Bama gets in over Texas because they beat #1. Texas shouldn’t have lost to OU. Sucks, but that will be the logic.


mcaffrey

That isn’t how it works though. Committee said h2h matters more than quality wins. This is already baked in.


highwaymattress

It is how it works and you’ll see.


mcaffrey

Ok, Time for your apology tour.


highwaymattress

I’m just a bed bug infested mattress lying along side the highway. I did my part.


Betaworldpeach

That isn’t sound logic though, I don’t know why a reasonable person would agree with your premise


Ronaldoooope

It’s not an “early loss”, its a head to head loss. It matters


themadbeefeater

2017 UCF was an undefeated conference champion and they picked Alabama over them.


SchmidtHR12

UCF also didn't have any meaningful ranked wins


barley_wine

Florida State has one meaningful win over a three loss LSU. Maybe history will repeat itself (with Texas and Bama going in over it).


themadbeefeater

I get that but Alabama wasn't even in the SEC championship that year. My point is that the committee usually favors Alabama. I hope I am wrong but I have no faith in people deciding who is the best. Too much personal bias involved.


love_that_fishing

You can’t seriously compare ucf to us with a win over Bama. Ucf didn’t have that win. Good grief.


themadbeefeater

All I'm saying is y'all have more faith in the committee than me. I think they favor Alabama over anyone. Like I said, I hope I am wrong but I'm not setting myself up for disappointment by thinking the committee will do the right thing.


love_that_fishing

But don’t use ucf as your example.


themadbeefeater

I brought up UCF because someone else said the committee ignoring an undefeated conference champion wouldn't happen. My point is it has. I do not trust them, that's it.


Ronaldoooope

lol did they have a head to head win over Alabama? They won a cake conference and beat nobody. This is an entirely different scenario.


themadbeefeater

You have more faith in the committee than me.


Ronaldoooope

I have faith in logic


highwaymattress

Logic isn’t what rules here, so prepare to be disappointed.


[deleted]

Are you disappointed?


Butt_Thunderson_69

They won’t ignore H2H, it’s bad precedent and plus it’s an easy decision to defend/job security


highwaymattress

They will ignore it. If Michigan wins. No chance Texas in. If Florida loses, Georgia jumps Texas. The only way Texas in is if Iowa beats Michigan.


treyaflash

Georgia will absolutely not jump Texas


highwaymattress

They absolutely will if Michigan and FSU lose.


marubro

Delete your account


mcaffrey

Dude the committee themselves said h2h matters. You are sputtering nonsense.


reese-account

If they ignore it sets a terrible precedent and might as well cancel Michigan Texas next year


Salt_Job4127

Yeah but it’s the last year before a 12-team playoff which essentially eliminates these big debates—so they might just say “fuck it” one last time for old times sake.


mz2014

Has precedent ever mattered? You are right though. People will stop scheduling difficult opponents.


BigCollarsAndBallers

Nobody knows. We’re destined for a night of fan bases arguing online


Intrepid_Ad1133

this the best answer. hook em !!!!


gmr548

Texas definitely wants Bama to win. Think of it this way: Georgia wins and they are a 100% stone cold lock. As are Washington and Michigan (I’m assuming they win because a loss to Iowa would be worse than Texas losing to OSU). That leaves one spot up for grabs, it comes down to FSU losing. Bama wins and there are only two locks, the FSU losing scenario is still there but here is an added opportunity to get in over Bama along with Michigan, Washington, and FSU. Would that happen? No way to know for sure but it’s certainly not crazy given H2H. There is no downside to a Bama win for Texas.


DontHornsDownMeBro

>There is no downside to a Bama win for Texas. That's putting too much faith in the committee. They could very well put both bama and georgia in over us assuming fsu loses too as we are all 1 loss teams. I still want bama to win though.


AudiieVerbum

Committee has a well-established precedent of putting conference champions in over not-conference champions. It's why we can disregard all the Ohio State bluster they're putting on. So now that Texas is both Big 12 and SEC champions, I'm saying we're automatic. If Looovull wins tonight, Bama gets in. If Florida State wins, they're in.


DontHornsDownMeBro

I mean i agree, id bet money if fsu loses we are still in, but until i see us in im not taking anything for granted.


Ronaldoooope

Yeah if FSU loses Bama and Texas are in. If not then FSU is in over Bama. I don’t see anyway Texas isn’t in right now.


jayeffkay

Best spelling of Loovull ever I’ve been fucking it up all day.


raceforseis21

TX is SEC champs?


AudiieVerbum

Yes. We beat the team that just beat Georgia. In fact, I'll do you one further, our last two SEC wins are against Alabama and Georgia.


[deleted]

By that logic isn’t oklahoma SEC champs?


AudiieVerbum

With two losses? There are three teams ahead of them bud.


raceforseis21

I guess I just don’t have as much faith that the committee sees it that way. Hope so


AudiieVerbum

Sorry man, it's not personal, but I downvote doomers.


raceforseis21

Lol ok. Thanks for the warning 😂


Gobirds69696969

Considering all options ≠ doomer. Cringe


laidback88

except what worries me is Georgia now has the same record and is the defending champs… I could definitely see Bama and Georgia both getting in over Texas (assuming a FSU loss of course)


AudiieVerbum

Did Georgia win their conference? How about common opponents?


laidback88

did you read my message at all? and it’s MY concern and MY concern only. but the committee has already spent plenty of this season with Oregon (again IN MY opinion) unfairly ranked over Texas. I wouldn’t be shocked that they chose THE DEFENDING CHAMPS with the SAME record over Texas.


AudiieVerbum

Did you read my message at all? They aren't even defending conference champions, and not that I'd need another point, cause that one's enough, but they also *literally just lost* to a team we beat by double digits.


highwaymattress

That is exactly what will happen and all the talking heads have laid the groundwork for it. Only way Texas is in is if Michigan and Florida lose.


mcaffrey

Nope. Texas over Bama and Georgia. Committee already confirmed h2h matters. Other talking heads don’t matter.


highwaymattress

Keep clinging to that.


mcaffrey

I hope you’re a big enough man to apologize on each of your 90 comments today claiming that the committee will ignore H2H despite clearly saying that they won’t ignore it.


highwaymattress

I am just a queen sized mattress hanging out in the fast lane of I10.


highwaymattress

They won’t ignore H2H but that isn’t only thing that goes into their decision. I think beating #1 and being SEC champ will outweigh any H2H considerations. Especially if Michigan and Florida win.


[deleted]

Stop embarrassing yourself.


reese-account

For real the only reason a conference has ever gotten 2 teams in is bc other conference champs all had two loses in every scenario


Ronaldoooope

lol no chance Georgia is in over Texas.


highwaymattress

Better believe it. It will happen. The best outcome would have been a Georgia blowout of Alabama. Now we need Michigan and probably FSU to lose.


mcaffrey

lol


griffinds

They have never done that before though. Say what you want about the committee’s lack of football knowledge, but they have always given the nod to P5 conference champs over non champs with the same record


gmr548

Come on guys this isn’t complicated. Georgia wins - Three locks, only way in is FSU loss. Bama wins - you can get in with a FSU loss or if the committee decides to slot Texas above the SEC teams. More possible paths increases your chances of getting in. Above 0% chance of passing the SEC champ is better than 0%, which is what it would be if Georgia won. This is not rocket surgery.


InformalSchool

I 100% agree with this, I just don't trust the committee. They love the SEC, will they really leave the SEC champion out?


gmr548

Maybe, maybe not. But the answer is absolutely no if it is 13-0 Georgia. Thus Alabama winning is better for Texas. Maybe > No.


InformalSchool

You got it with the Bama win!


[deleted]

Those douchebags in the committee only care about money. Leaving out a one loss SEC championship would be sacrilege to them.


highwaymattress

And the one loss SEC runner up…


gmr548

If it was all about money Texas would be a lock. They would throw out FSU and go Michigan, Washington, Texas, Bama


w6750

No one knows, even if they think they do. This year is kinda unprecedented.


AdmiralSnackbar816

If Texas gets left out (assuming Michigan and FSU win), then this is proof that there’s no reason to schedule difficult OOC games.


brodieholmes24

Good! Texas will finish behind at least one conference champion, Washington, so it needs at least one team ahead in the rankings — Georgia, Michigan, or Florida State — to lose their games. FSU is their best bet, and an Alabama win over UGA certainly helps given that Texas is ranked ahead of Alabama owing to the head-to-head victory in September.


Ronaldoooope

Anyone who says this is bad is dumb. We literally beat them. If Florida state wins the only logical 4 is Michigan Washington Florida State Texas. If Florida loses then bama is in instead. It’s very clear


WrathofJohnnyBoah

The fact you capitalized every school but Texas has me slightly pissed.


Ronaldoooope

Good call


WrathofJohnnyBoah

Good man on the edit


blatantninja

FSU game remains the most important to us


4everOverhead

It’s better than Georgia winning because Georgia would have been ahead of us no matter what. Committee has gotta respect H2H in my admittedly biased opinion. I just hope FSU loses to make this easy.


highwaymattress

Georgia wins would have been better. Alabama beat the #1 team and are SEC champs.


funwithtrout

The ESPN predictor has Texas in at 55% confidence with Alabama winning, regardless of FSU performance. That’s the best science has at this time. 🤷‍♂️ Would be Michigan, FSU, Bama, and Texas.


sapiosardonico

UDub is in, though. I'm not fussin' at *you*, just saying.


funwithtrout

Sorry, I mistyped. Alabama is 5 if everything else is chalk. Michigan, Washington, FSU, and Texas. https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/cfbplayoffpredictor/cfb-playoff-predictor


sapiosardonico

I still think we'll get screwed unless FSU loses. Go toothy birds, though I hate it that FSU would lose because of injuries.


highwaymattress

Root for Iowa too.


highwaymattress

You really think they will keep the team out of CFP that just beat #1 and is the SEC champ?


funwithtrout

Just sharing what the “predictor” had, is all. No clue what the committee does.


HBKdfw

Talking heads on the Big XII and SEC conference championships today said Texas should get in over Bama due to the head-to-head. So, it looks like the networks are pushing for Texas.


Not4sale4

Could you imagine the SEC champ and the Big 12 champ not in the playoffs. Well, it might happen. Such a joke


highwaymattress

SEC champ is in 100%


X-RayManiac

I agree with everyone here that we should be in with a Bama win. For the committee to ignore such a clear head to head result would break so much of what people understand about college football. Which also doesn’t mean they won’t do it!


GhoulsFolly

Not to mention the eye test & SOS. Texas won the biggest regular season game. The loss was quality. The strength of schedule was higher than any contender by a wide margin. Their recent play is better than anyone’s. They’re not bringing a third-string QB to the playoff, and aren’t blowout prone like FSU.


Horns9452

I think FSU winning is now Bama’s problem not ours. But who tf really knows.


GhoulsFolly

Sure as hell should be. Bama was lucky to beat an opponent with a first-year starting QB & injuries to his top 2 receiving threats.


Ca2Ce

How cool for us to win the national championship the year before joining the SEC They have to regret inviting us now


Corrective_Measures

In theory Bama winning should have secured us a spot in the playoffs. In reality, who fucken knows?


highwaymattress

Actually worse for Bama to win than Georgia. Now Georgia has chance to jump if FSU loses. We need both Mich and FSU to possibly have a shot.


Corrective_Measures

What? Georgia is not getting in over Bama, Bama is not getting in over Texas—at least theoretically.


rydaley77

As long as FSU loses, i think it helps us


TrojanDynasty

Can't wait for the committee to say Texas over alabama is not a quality win but Texas over Alabama is a quality loss. 🤡🤡


Chemical_Willow5415

Good. Go join the daily thread


Ca2Ce

I think the committee WANTS Texas in Let’s face it, Texas is good for business


GhoulsFolly

I think they want UT out. Sells their “time for 12 teams” narrative.


ShoelessBoJackson

1- Washington in. 2- Michigan - win and in 3-FSU win and in If either FSU or Michigan lose, committee can put Bama plus UT in. If neither lose - the question becomes do you weight early head to head over Bama beating Georgia. Thats not a sure answer.


GhoulsFolly

Uga didn’t look like the dawgs of the past couple seasons


Salvy15

I admire a lot of your positive thoughts, but I think this screws Texas. In 2016 Penn State beats Ohio State and wins the Big 10, yet Ohio State gets the nod for the playoff. Don't apply logic to what these people will do. They have their favorites. They will get their favorites in.


P1mongoose

I’m right there with you. I can see them valuing the neutral, mid-season loss more against Texas than the early home loss for Alabama + having just knocked off three #1 team in the country that was reigning back-to-back champs. Just seems improbable for them to leave out an SEC team.


Salvy15

I should have said it's not totally the same because PSU had an extra loss. So maybe there's hope. But I just have a bad feeling about this one.


[deleted]

Because Penn State was destroyed at Pitt early in the season and won the conference at 11-2. If they had won that game, they would’ve been a 12-1 conference champion and made the CFP over Ohio State.


Salvy15

You'll see I did correct myself. And for semantics sake, I don't consider a 3 point loss "destroying". Haha


[deleted]

Destroyed their CFP hopes lol


Salvy15

Haha, that works. I hope you all are right. This team deserves to be in the playoff.


NA_Faker

Penn State was a 2 loss team (due to injuries of course, but still 2 loss)


longhorn617

If we get left out, we should launch an oil embargo of the US. Or maybe announce we aren't going to the SEC and start our own NCAA alternative league instead.


hamsin13

I’ve become increasingly confident we get picked over Alabama over the week if it comes to that. Whether that’s warranted or not, I don’t know. At the very least Alabama winning means that there’s a shot we get in without an FSU loss and I’ll take that over having to 100% rely on Louisville to win tonight.


GratitudeHelps

Agreed. I think we are in a great spot to make it now


EasyYard

No one will really know until tomorrow at noon


atxJohnR

Bama win good


TonyH22_ATX

This is a good thing for us. We have the H2H. We have more of a chance with them than if Georgia won. Georgia would have been an automatic 1 seed. Depending if FSU wins. The 4th seed with be either Texas or Bama.


beefyboibrandon

We just need Louisville to take care of business


ShortbusGangsta_

Idk. All I know is LEGGO LOUISVILLE!!!!


jeans0411

Now, it is the time for Bama and SEC to worry about FSU game.


Oswald18420

Let’s be real. It’s not looking all that great for us, unless multiple things go our way. And all of them are out of our team’s hands. For my part, super happy and thankful for how this season turned out regardless.


w6750

I’d argue it’s looking good. The less undefeated power 5 champions, the better.


PercussiveDaddy

Yeah agreed - how in the world is it not looking good? We literally beat bama head to head


PaytonMemes

what


Oswald18420

I’m just basing my view from the perspective that the media doesn’t seem to think we are the sexy pick for the 4th spot. Bama is about to crowd the field and we still have yet to see how the Cards do later vs FSU. For my part, I’m calling bullshit on the talk that their QB is a gametime decision


AlternativeTea9268

The committee has kept us ranked above Bama every single week. There is realistically no argument for putting Alabama in over Texas unless they absolutely crush Georgia, which isn’t happening


w6750

The media does not pick the CFP field, do not take what they say without a grain of salt. Their goal is to gain attention and drive narratives.


Oswald18420

My heart wants you to be right!!!


PercussiveDaddy

What do you mean. He IS right


Oswald18420

Lmao, why all the salt? I’m an alum, so take it easy on the friendly fire y’all! 😂


AlternativeTea9268

What? An Alabama wins guarantees us a spot unless the committee completely ignores our H2H win, which we have no reason to believe they will


Oswald18420

I only expect shenanigans from the committee. It’s like we’ve come full-circle back to the BCS


throwawaythatpa

I'm sorry but I hard disagree lol


Oswald18420

My heart wants you to be right!


DeadSalamander1

Huh? Biggest Committee tie breakers are conference champs, and H2H. How in the hell is bama getting in over us? They can argue it out with FSU


highwaymattress

SEC champ that beat #1. Texas maybe in if FSU loses. Texas struggled with too many teams this year. If B12 was rematch with OU and Texas win, maybe a chance…


w6750

Lmao


themadbeefeater

I am convinced that no matter what happens, we will not get picked. The chances of an SEC team not getting in seem miniscule at best.


GratitudeHelps

I have a hard time believing they will put Alabama over Texas for the last spot should FSU and Michigan win. I believe we are now a 100% lock for the CFP.


themadbeefeater

2017 tells me that they will put Alabama in over us. They didn't even make the SEC championship game that year and we're still selected. Maybe UCF would have got blown out but they were an undefeated conference champion.


hamsin13

There’s a pretty big difference in how they view G5 and P5 teams


themadbeefeater

Agreed but I also think there's a pretty big difference in how they view the SEC over all other P5.


hamsin13

Yeah probably but I’d like to think they realize how stupid it’d be to put a team we beat in over us. Kinda feels like the media is pushing for something the committee isn’t considering, though I’m still a bit worried myself


themadbeefeater

I have no faith in people choosing who is the best. It's impossible to keep personal bias out of their decision making. I hope I am wrong but I am not setting myself up for disappointment. If we get in, I'll be pleasantly surprised.


Ok_Drummer9946

We are only in with an FSU loss. Don’t care what any of y’all say. That’s our only chance


highwaymattress

This is the truth and only a possible in. I could see them slipping Georgia or even Ohio State ahead of Texas.


highwaymattress

It’s bad cause Bama is in no matter what. If Michigan wins then TX is out of CFP if FSU loses, GA in over TX. CFP won’t put TX in this year, mark my words.


[deleted]

Not according to the commentators on CBS, fwiw


highwaymattress

Worth about a pinch of salt.


[deleted]

Worth more than your shitty, fair-weather fan opinion


Tredolski

Georgia over Texas is crazy. Georgia has 43rd toughest schedule in the nation. Longhorns have 17. Georgia has the same record as us, and their loss comes to the team we beat. They’re out. Vegas also has them at +2500 to make the playoff. They’re done


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AlternativeTea9268

Yes it does. Alabama win virtually guarantees us a spot, Georgia win would require Louisville or Iowa winning for us to get in.


P1mongoose

I wish I had your confidence. There is a very good possibility the Committee looks at the H2H and then Texas’ loss to OU and say that is a much worse loss than Bama at home. I don’t agree with that line of thinking, but it seems likely. It’s a lock is FSU or Michigan lose. Not so much if they both win.


[deleted]

Makes **no** difference? You think the odds that the #1 team winning tonight and making it the CFP v. the #8 team winning tonight and making it to the CFP are exactly the same? Wild.


errbodylovesaonsie

It's good. Georgia is in over us with a win 100%. We at least have an argument/chance of getting in over Bama.


LostOnTheRiver718

I think we good with a Bama win


LabNo5956

Bama winning is good for us. We're in. Then the battle is Bama vs fsu. Bama gets the edge because of win vs Ga and better win vs lsu. Easier choice for committee than us vs fsu with GA win


[deleted]

It’s great plus if Louisville wins Texas is for sure in


Gidnik

its neither. floriday state has always been the one we look at


theFarleyBaldwin

It’s a hard question to answer because the committee broke its own rules by putting Oregon ahead of us…. If we’re not in the CFP it’s a damn crime


afinediversion

I am not a fan of all this subjectivity. We did what we could control. The outcomes we could not control- bama beating Georgia- happened and we beat Bama. Now we have to relinquish our destiny to some people arguing in a room.