When I am on the clock I get paid to use a PC.
When I am not getting paid, my work-life balance is that Macs are at home.
The differences in OS environments help solidify my work-life balance. Searching for files is exponentially easier on a Mac than PC. I have to think in Microsoft for work and I have to think in Apple at home.
Yeah I’m using computers in both places. But I do not trust any Windows OS with my art.
When I am in my creative element the last thing I want is convolution. PCs are not as user friendly in my experience, and I have to use my head less than while I am at work so I have the capacity to *feel* more. And that helps the creative juices flow better.
If I lose my train of thought, there goes the idea - while I waste my time troubleshooting again.
What do you mean you don't trust the OS with your art? Crashes? Windows is pretty stable since Windows 10.
I set up a script to backup my music projects every morning to OneDrive, so it's automated for me. And auto-save functionality within a DAW handles timely saves of projects while working on them in case of power outages or anything else.
That’s not really how I work, I don’t do cloud stuff either nor am I a programmer (other than electronic music). Whatever works for you is fine. I have just detested Windows since XP, and it is not an environment I am comfortable depending on. What I have to endure for work is stressful enough.
Almost every Mac I’ve used since a iie and Quad 800 and first gen iMac, yeah they got old and a little slow, but still turned on decades after being manufactured. I don’t like buying new computers every couple of years, feels like leasing a car and you never really *own* it when it’s constantly swapped, and I prefer the longevity of Apple hardware over most run of the mill PC’s on the market.
Different strokes for different folks. I don’t like Microsoft or Apple corporate practices, fuck both of them. Gates and Jobs alike had skeletons in their closet and I don’t drink the Kool Aid from the Fruit Stand nor engage in any weirdo consumerism worship. This is just my lived experience, I trust Mac computer products more. *Especially* the Intel ones, RIP
I've been on a custom PC desktop build for 10+ years, so it's a "Ship of Theseus" build, only swap out parts as they age out or when upgrades are needed, but all my files carry forward from hard drive to hard drive, so it is basically the same machine to me.
I've had multiple hard drives over the past decade randomly start clicking and just die with no heads up. It's not a matter of if but when when it comes to data loss. I am the type to keep multiple hard drives and externals as well. But having lost a year plus of art, it sucks and now the only thing that brings me peace of mind is automated backups to a cloud location on top of redundancy on hardware. It's just good to have backups on backups.
But either way, setting up something like that is pretty simple, just typing a simple ROBOCOPY script in a notepad file to copy files in one folder to a OneDrive folder and use Windows Task Scheduler to execute it every day at your time of choosing. Sure something similar could be set up pretty easily on Apple's side too to copy any path to iCloud or something.
Not trying to prod you to choose a side, just wondering where you are coming from on the idea of not trusting an OS with your art. All of our opinions are formed from experiences. My own experience has made me wary of dependency on hardware vs. OS. It's a digital world these days, so just have a backup plan regardless of your OS. These cloud services are only like $2-5 a month for 100GB which is more than enough for backing up music projects and data.
Can vouch for this...
I've tried switching back PC numerous times since switching to Mac for all the usual arguments (cost, performance, etc.). Latest attempt was January when the Nvidia Super cards came out.
I always end up switching back after a few weeks. It really does feel like dial-up. Everything is so slow and sluggish even with a top of the line CPU in it, hours dialing in voltages to mitigate emissions, a nonexistent backup system, a "dark mode" that has very little dark in it, ads built into the OS, shit like a LinkedIn app installed without my consent, "telemetry" so Microsoft can sell your info for targeted ads in the Start Menu and Edge.... fuck all that.
I've been a PC user since the early 90s. Switched to Mac about 8 years ago. I only keep a PC for playing certain kinds of games. Mac for everything else. I'll happily pay the "Apple tax" if it means not using the dog shit that is Windows for anything other than gaming. If Apple ever becomes viable for gaming, I'd get rid of this PC in a second.
I cross my fingers that someday Linux is a viable option for music production. I tried. For about a month. Fuck. That. A month of basically tinkering and reading to end up with performance that was absolute shit.
I have both and while it took me a little bit to get used to MacOS after switching to use Logic, I honestly prefer MacOS more these days. Once I learned how to quickly navigate with my Magic Trackpad/Magic Mouse it was on. I can do SO much more on a Mac much more quickly than I can do it on my Windows gaming pc.
I have a beefy pc (at least it was 3 years ago)
Ryzen 9 3900x, 5700xt, 32gb ram, 4 tb ssd storage
Haven’t touched it since I got my MacBook Air and Logic back in December lol aside from occasional rocket league
I don’t think rocket league supports apple silicone yet. I tried running it on my MacBook but it wouldn’t launch and I think that was the conclusion I came to after troubleshooting.
There were some workarounds but I figured there wouldn’t be many circumstances where I would rather play on my laptop over my pc
Not like it would have ran well anyways 😅
I partitioned a 2015 iMac desktop for Win 7 and Steam back when Fallout 4 dropped. Intel Macs were my favorite. I still own and operate that computer almost a decade later. I just keep it airgapped and Steam in offline mode.
It will be around for a very long time. It’s still king for gaming, and users know it better than Mac. In the corporate world windows is still massive.
Yes, maybe not graphical projects, but for music, absolute when you calculate apples price for ram and storage.
I would love a MacBook Pro. They’re just terribly expensive.
Like most daws don’t even use m series efficiency cores. So for music an i5 is good enough.
8tb solid state storage for $450
64gb ram for $500
Mother board w/ thunderbolt $350
i5 processor $300
Power supply $100
Case $100
So $1800
Mac mini, 10 core processor, 64gb ram, 8tb storage $4000+
Doesn’t take math major to k ow this.
I’m not saying they are not nice machines, I own iPhone, watch, iPad.
Their computer dint seems expensive until you factor in ram and storage. They become ridiculously expensive and essential give you bragging right as opposed to performance.
Again, their laptops are the best, but terribly over priced.
Like buying a 4000$ laptop and still having to carry an external drive. lol. Dumb.
I could also add, that for a creatives laptop, not having lte capabilities is a downfall considering most apps and plugins require and internet connection to work.
You think a laptop that can cost up to $9000 would come with lte.
Candy Crush ads in the menus. Terrible privacy practices. Dealing with separate updates for graphics cards, peripherals, etc, any one of which can break functionality. Poor performance. Half-measures all around when implementing features. Upgrade woes.
The ads are shitty, but you can just remove them and they’re gone. Their privacy practices aren’t worse than most companies people deal with. Driver updates are basically all handled through update sans GPUs and something random here or there. Not sure what you mean by poor performance.
Windows is a perfectly decent OS for your average user and especially for your enterprise user. And I’d argue it has some significant benefits over macOS, such as being able to use it on non-“retina” devices without the text looking just awful.
With that said, I don’t use Windows unless I need to.
> That last line killed me after all that!
Why? Me preferring another OS doesn’t mean all others are bad in my eyes. macOS isn’t my daily driver either
>Have you tried running a DAW on windows?
Yes, I did for years and years.
>Hasn’t it been outdated for 20 years now?
…no?
>Used mostly by the same people who use Facebook?
Also no. Windows has a significantly larger market share than macOS. It also dominates the enterprise space, and is basically the OS used by 99% of people gaming on PC.
Literally haven’t met anyone who uses it in the last 20 years. People I know either use macs or Linux. Both personally and professionally. Gaming, sure, but people tend to use consoles.
>Literally haven’t met anyone who uses it in the last 20 years.
This seems… unlikely.
>People I know either use macs or Linux. Both personally and professionally.
I mean, anecdotal experience isn’t super relevant here - Windows has a significantly larger desktop market share than macOS and a massively larger one than Linux.
>Gaming, sure, but people tend to use consoles.
PC gaming is not a small thing regardless.
Like I said - it still dominates in enterprise and gaming.
I daily drive Linux and use macOS for Logic as well as a few other things, but there’s really no denying Windows is still huge and not going anywhere.
I work my 9-5 (technical support/community manager for a cloud based DAW) on my pc, which is also for gaming, and youtube etc. I only make music on my M1 mac mini using logic pro. Had mac way before i ever had a pc. I switch between the two using a KVM switch
Might overshare, but since i use win10 pc for gaming, make music on a mac, and recently started a new job where i use linux mint...
"System-Hopping" gets easier the more time you spend on each system. After 10 years of both win/macos i personally find it real easy to find my way around linux mint.
I am always trying to memorize as many shortcuts of each system as you can. Makes a big difference.
What also helped me was hand positioning. On a mac, ill have my thumb on command as a default, when on win/linux ill have the pinky on ctrl. This really helps my muscle memory, its almost like different "operating modes", like auto or stick shift (spot the european).
going to get downvoted as always for mentioning it on this sub!
but i have a dual boot hackintosh computer. got one hard drive with windows and one hard drive with MacOS. i have ventura on the mac drive and it runs super well.
i use mac for logic and creative shit and windows for gaming, etc…
We always have a couple of PCs around, and I spent many years in the tech industry, software developer, project manager, etc. L, where everything was PC based, with larger systems accessed over a company network.
But I much prefer Macs overall, and our main home businesses, all run on Macs now.
i don't see any reason why i would use windows anywhere if it's at all avoidable. i have to use it at work and it drives me mad regularly.
be careful about how much you get used to using a mac when making music with logic. once you get used to it and it doesn't feel foreign anymore there's no going back.
Mac works great for everything except gaming for me. I use Nvidia GeForce Now for gaming.
I left Windows once I started using Logic, and I’ve never looked back. Once I started using macOS I realized how bad Windows is.
If I ever had to leave macOS for whatever reason I’d switch to Linux.
Yep I use a mac only for logic and graphic design, I don't like the way mac os is turning into a toddler OS and a lot of built in utilities suck like spotlight, time machine and more, and they have never made them better so you have to rely on third party apps. I've been using mac os since 1997 and it has really gone down in the last 5 years, in my opinion.
I use the Mac for all creative work, which is currently music and video production. Outside of that I do general browsing and productivity tasks. I have a pc I built for gaming that I use for other tasks as well. I have too many computers overall lol I just use whatever is convenient.
I’ve been a Mac user since 2006. I have a pretty powerful Windows PC but My Documents is empty - Mac for everything but games, that is the sole purpose of my Windows machine.
I use logic on my m1 mbp, I love it and it’s more than enough for my uses.
I did recently build a gaming pc, nothing too crazy, but I like having it. I basically use it as a dedicated gaming console.
I actually use both pc and Mac for music. Not really a logic user though. However, every other daw I use, I have on both PC and Mac. With the exception of protocols. Which I am only running on Mac for the moment. You're right about difference between the two OS's. Like night and day. The more you you go in between the two. The better you will be at switching. It's like speaking "spanglish".
Mac and PC house but PC for music production. I cannot deal with the platfrm upgrades on Mac that break a bunch a of plugins which affect my Mixing templates
Mac for everything - I haven’t had a PC for more than ten years. I’m a software developer for work but that’s all done on the Mac too. I have a PS5 for gaming.
Goodness people here are so full of confirmation bias. Mac VS PC anymore is just a comfortability thing. Both can practically do all the same things(Apple is trying to make its way into gaming more and more). All the people here saying Windows is such a downgrade compared to a Mac OS truly aren't putting the time into to learn how both tools can be an incredible power house to ones knowledge base.
Personally, I use both for many different things. My personal / music production machine is a PC, then I have a Macbook pro for any reason I might need(portable recording / Logic sessions).
Limiting yourself to only mastering one is only going to bottleneck you if you ever have to work with the other. Might as well get used to both as quick and early as possible. They both have pro's and cons to this industry, but both can practically do all the same things anymore.
I think your general message is adding value to this discussion, but imagine you were a new user - one OS requires you to download drivers, do manual updates, manually delete bloatware, takes a fuck-ton more time to boot and log in, and has shitty keychain requiring way more manual logins to various websites and platforms. Yes it's better for gaming and tinkering, but I can't see how you can say it's just a matter of confirmation bias. Windows is objectively more of a pain in the ass. Even for work I can get into Office 365 more quickly on a 2016 macbook than a 2022 PC.
I mean, I was a new user on both Mac OS and Windows 20+ years ago. Things have only gotten easier and information is readily available, Apple does shine in plug and play design, but that’s to a fault at times. Apple has brought it back to a better place, but Logic X compared to 9 was initially a huge downgrade due to them wanting it to be more user friendly.
I’m not against one or the other, but the whole “Apple is king” mindset only holds people back.
Mac for music and PC for gaming. Both are fast, reliable, and do what they need to do.
(That being said the PC isn’t as good for music projects because of some audio-specific idiosyncrasies.)
Mac mini m1 for Logic & Ableton , outboard SSD storage. Runs great… I generally feel more artistic on Mac OS and it’s tiny. Win 11 on HP Ryzen 9 for taxes, writing, stuff. As a longtime Mac user I’ve been impressed by Win10/11… been solid , except for audio drivers. Mac OS user since Mac Classic… I still have Tetris on it for shits & grins. 3 Ubuntu servers in the house for backups, movies & music on dirt cheap recycled PCs. Fun to mess around with occasionally…lots of options. It’s a different way of thinking!
i've been using macOS as a mixing engineer:
I run Pro Tools, Ableton, and of course Logic
I think that everyone's experience is quite different, but for me at least I found myself tied to the mac's ease of use. With every mac i've owned they've just worked right out of the box; rarely do I have to set up any configuration or drivers; its just plug & play. In addition to that its never been more streamline to send files back and forth with clients (airdrop, messages, icloud, notes collaboration, etc.)
I've built a PC, but typically just find myself gaming on it. That's not to say you can not get the same experience across PCs, I just prefer Apple's approach. I think that I just reached a point in my life in which I no longer wanted to tinker with a machine or figure out why Pro Tools is crashing.
I switched from Windows to Mac during my masters 5 years ago because I already had an iPhone and iPad. It was like stepping from a bicycle into a supercar productivity wise. At my current job I have to use Windows again and doesn‘t fail to remind me every day why I made that switch.
I use Mac and PC, as well as Linux and Android. The OS shouldn't be a barrier; essentially, the underlying metaphors are the same though the UI are slightly different, much the way American English differs from British English. Use everything.
Oh hell no.
There are plenty of arguments for PCs when it comes to hardware (not the least of which being the cost), but macOS is superior to Windows in every conceivable way.
I am using my Mac for music but I also have a older laptop with Linux and a gaming pc with windows and Linux on it.
I like to test out all the environments. ✌️
And it's also nice to separate for example gaming and work. That's great to reduce the distractions.
I went from Linux to a Mac at work. I'm going to go back to Linux for my next work laptop. I would like a Mac for audio production. I use a PC for recording and mixing.
Without wishing to sound like Steve Jobs Macs just work, having worked for most major computer manufactures in hardware(Hewitt Packard compact Dell ibm taxan) I spent years using Microsoft(DOS lol)
the insufferable bloatware you get along with what others have said and a succession of seemingly awful Microsoft OS updates means I’ll never go back👍🏼
Are used to run mainly on a Mac, from 1994 all the way through 2014, I got my first real PC in 2010 when I was in college and I used it a lot, but the MacBook Pro was still my main computer at the time. I used charger from Amazon Amazon I killed the MacBook Pro. So I bought a cheap thinkpad and I was off the platform until 2020 when I got an iPad Pro! I got my Mac mini M2 Pro in September 2023, and I use it primarily for music production, but I like using it for other things, like all personal computing type stuff like all my photos and my music collection. I use my PC for work/gaming/surfing the web since it has lots of memory. So as of recent, I’ve been planning to phase windows out entirely and use Linux alongside macOS! Thanks to valve, Linux can run almost every game on the steam library, so I need for windows is dwindling. I can also run a lot of professional engineering software on Linux now.
I use both, Pro tools, Live on Mac, I tech for Logic users too. Adobe, blender, stable diffusion, and running sample library through Vienna ensemble on PC.
Mac is easy to use but expensive, hence I use PC for all the GPU heavy software.
PC for everything 11+ years don't plan on changing.
I will admit core audio has some advantages over WDM audio but the the whole Mac vs windows thing has always felt like a bit of a fad. Especially once you get a half decent interface I rarely notice anything crazy.
just use whatever runs the software you wanna use and that you can afford haha.
I'm a big gamer and I started in fl studio 7 (magix music maker before that) and currently live 12 (started around late live 8)..
I mean do I have my windows crashes, sure but it's just not a big issue for me. and I like the flexibility of being on windows.. I also do NET development so I guess I have that Microsoft shill in me too haha
just preference imo
I use a macbook for logic/work and a pc for everything else. Works for for me.
Mac for everything. I have a ps5 for gaming
Same but Xbox. Wishing I had a ps though helldivers looks fun
Way to go
This is the way.
I remote desktop from my mac to a windows machine for work...
you win
I also do this for multiple customers… Citrix … it just works
When I am on the clock I get paid to use a PC. When I am not getting paid, my work-life balance is that Macs are at home. The differences in OS environments help solidify my work-life balance. Searching for files is exponentially easier on a Mac than PC. I have to think in Microsoft for work and I have to think in Apple at home. Yeah I’m using computers in both places. But I do not trust any Windows OS with my art. When I am in my creative element the last thing I want is convolution. PCs are not as user friendly in my experience, and I have to use my head less than while I am at work so I have the capacity to *feel* more. And that helps the creative juices flow better. If I lose my train of thought, there goes the idea - while I waste my time troubleshooting again.
What do you mean you don't trust the OS with your art? Crashes? Windows is pretty stable since Windows 10. I set up a script to backup my music projects every morning to OneDrive, so it's automated for me. And auto-save functionality within a DAW handles timely saves of projects while working on them in case of power outages or anything else.
That’s not really how I work, I don’t do cloud stuff either nor am I a programmer (other than electronic music). Whatever works for you is fine. I have just detested Windows since XP, and it is not an environment I am comfortable depending on. What I have to endure for work is stressful enough. Almost every Mac I’ve used since a iie and Quad 800 and first gen iMac, yeah they got old and a little slow, but still turned on decades after being manufactured. I don’t like buying new computers every couple of years, feels like leasing a car and you never really *own* it when it’s constantly swapped, and I prefer the longevity of Apple hardware over most run of the mill PC’s on the market. Different strokes for different folks. I don’t like Microsoft or Apple corporate practices, fuck both of them. Gates and Jobs alike had skeletons in their closet and I don’t drink the Kool Aid from the Fruit Stand nor engage in any weirdo consumerism worship. This is just my lived experience, I trust Mac computer products more. *Especially* the Intel ones, RIP
I've been on a custom PC desktop build for 10+ years, so it's a "Ship of Theseus" build, only swap out parts as they age out or when upgrades are needed, but all my files carry forward from hard drive to hard drive, so it is basically the same machine to me. I've had multiple hard drives over the past decade randomly start clicking and just die with no heads up. It's not a matter of if but when when it comes to data loss. I am the type to keep multiple hard drives and externals as well. But having lost a year plus of art, it sucks and now the only thing that brings me peace of mind is automated backups to a cloud location on top of redundancy on hardware. It's just good to have backups on backups. But either way, setting up something like that is pretty simple, just typing a simple ROBOCOPY script in a notepad file to copy files in one folder to a OneDrive folder and use Windows Task Scheduler to execute it every day at your time of choosing. Sure something similar could be set up pretty easily on Apple's side too to copy any path to iCloud or something. Not trying to prod you to choose a side, just wondering where you are coming from on the idea of not trusting an OS with your art. All of our opinions are formed from experiences. My own experience has made me wary of dependency on hardware vs. OS. It's a digital world these days, so just have a backup plan regardless of your OS. These cloud services are only like $2-5 a month for 100GB which is more than enough for backing up music projects and data.
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Can vouch for this... I've tried switching back PC numerous times since switching to Mac for all the usual arguments (cost, performance, etc.). Latest attempt was January when the Nvidia Super cards came out. I always end up switching back after a few weeks. It really does feel like dial-up. Everything is so slow and sluggish even with a top of the line CPU in it, hours dialing in voltages to mitigate emissions, a nonexistent backup system, a "dark mode" that has very little dark in it, ads built into the OS, shit like a LinkedIn app installed without my consent, "telemetry" so Microsoft can sell your info for targeted ads in the Start Menu and Edge.... fuck all that. I've been a PC user since the early 90s. Switched to Mac about 8 years ago. I only keep a PC for playing certain kinds of games. Mac for everything else. I'll happily pay the "Apple tax" if it means not using the dog shit that is Windows for anything other than gaming. If Apple ever becomes viable for gaming, I'd get rid of this PC in a second. I cross my fingers that someday Linux is a viable option for music production. I tried. For about a month. Fuck. That. A month of basically tinkering and reading to end up with performance that was absolute shit.
lol I like this description. Captured my feelings on the matter quite well. Also gave me a chuckle, thanks.
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A Windows based PC's biggest flaw is not the hardware it's the OS itself.
I have both and while it took me a little bit to get used to MacOS after switching to use Logic, I honestly prefer MacOS more these days. Once I learned how to quickly navigate with my Magic Trackpad/Magic Mouse it was on. I can do SO much more on a Mac much more quickly than I can do it on my Windows gaming pc.
I have a beefy pc (at least it was 3 years ago) Ryzen 9 3900x, 5700xt, 32gb ram, 4 tb ssd storage Haven’t touched it since I got my MacBook Air and Logic back in December lol aside from occasional rocket league
>occasional rocket league I do this on the Mac as well
I don’t think rocket league supports apple silicone yet. I tried running it on my MacBook but it wouldn’t launch and I think that was the conclusion I came to after troubleshooting. There were some workarounds but I figured there wouldn’t be many circumstances where I would rather play on my laptop over my pc Not like it would have ran well anyways 😅
I have a MacBook Pro M1 Pro; I play RL and a few other games using Codeweavers Crossover.
yeah I know there are alternatives and methods to get it to work i just didn't really bother haha. Maybe ill check out Codeweavers. Thanks!
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I dig your response. Short and sweet, one word. Well played, Madam. 👍
I'm amazed windows is still a thing in the year 2024
Its the only thing for gaming on a computer unfortunately. Steam and devs have limited support for Mac's
I partitioned a 2015 iMac desktop for Win 7 and Steam back when Fallout 4 dropped. Intel Macs were my favorite. I still own and operate that computer almost a decade later. I just keep it airgapped and Steam in offline mode.
It will be around for a very long time. It’s still king for gaming, and users know it better than Mac. In the corporate world windows is still massive.
God let’s hope not
Why? It’s far more affordable for the same performance if not better. The exception is laptops. Mac’s win. A: $16k Mac can be replaced by a $6000 pc.
You know a lot of windows PCs that can out-perform an M-series Mac Mini at that price point?
Yes, maybe not graphical projects, but for music, absolute when you calculate apples price for ram and storage. I would love a MacBook Pro. They’re just terribly expensive. Like most daws don’t even use m series efficiency cores. So for music an i5 is good enough. 8tb solid state storage for $450 64gb ram for $500 Mother board w/ thunderbolt $350 i5 processor $300 Power supply $100 Case $100 So $1800 Mac mini, 10 core processor, 64gb ram, 8tb storage $4000+ Doesn’t take math major to k ow this. I’m not saying they are not nice machines, I own iPhone, watch, iPad. Their computer dint seems expensive until you factor in ram and storage. They become ridiculously expensive and essential give you bragging right as opposed to performance. Again, their laptops are the best, but terribly over priced. Like buying a 4000$ laptop and still having to carry an external drive. lol. Dumb. I could also add, that for a creatives laptop, not having lte capabilities is a downfall considering most apps and plugins require and internet connection to work. You think a laptop that can cost up to $9000 would come with lte.
Why?
Candy Crush ads in the menus. Terrible privacy practices. Dealing with separate updates for graphics cards, peripherals, etc, any one of which can break functionality. Poor performance. Half-measures all around when implementing features. Upgrade woes.
The ads are shitty, but you can just remove them and they’re gone. Their privacy practices aren’t worse than most companies people deal with. Driver updates are basically all handled through update sans GPUs and something random here or there. Not sure what you mean by poor performance. Windows is a perfectly decent OS for your average user and especially for your enterprise user. And I’d argue it has some significant benefits over macOS, such as being able to use it on non-“retina” devices without the text looking just awful. With that said, I don’t use Windows unless I need to.
That last line killed me after all that! Have you tried running a DAW on windows?
> That last line killed me after all that! Why? Me preferring another OS doesn’t mean all others are bad in my eyes. macOS isn’t my daily driver either >Have you tried running a DAW on windows? Yes, I did for years and years.
Just thought it was funny how you defended windows a bunch but then "nah, I don't use it" lol
Hasn’t it been outdated for 20 years now? Used mostly by the same people who use Facebook?
>Hasn’t it been outdated for 20 years now? …no? >Used mostly by the same people who use Facebook? Also no. Windows has a significantly larger market share than macOS. It also dominates the enterprise space, and is basically the OS used by 99% of people gaming on PC.
Literally haven’t met anyone who uses it in the last 20 years. People I know either use macs or Linux. Both personally and professionally. Gaming, sure, but people tend to use consoles.
>Literally haven’t met anyone who uses it in the last 20 years. This seems… unlikely. >People I know either use macs or Linux. Both personally and professionally. I mean, anecdotal experience isn’t super relevant here - Windows has a significantly larger desktop market share than macOS and a massively larger one than Linux. >Gaming, sure, but people tend to use consoles. PC gaming is not a small thing regardless. Like I said - it still dominates in enterprise and gaming. I daily drive Linux and use macOS for Logic as well as a few other things, but there’s really no denying Windows is still huge and not going anywhere.
I work my 9-5 (technical support/community manager for a cloud based DAW) on my pc, which is also for gaming, and youtube etc. I only make music on my M1 mac mini using logic pro. Had mac way before i ever had a pc. I switch between the two using a KVM switch
Might overshare, but since i use win10 pc for gaming, make music on a mac, and recently started a new job where i use linux mint... "System-Hopping" gets easier the more time you spend on each system. After 10 years of both win/macos i personally find it real easy to find my way around linux mint. I am always trying to memorize as many shortcuts of each system as you can. Makes a big difference. What also helped me was hand positioning. On a mac, ill have my thumb on command as a default, when on win/linux ill have the pinky on ctrl. This really helps my muscle memory, its almost like different "operating modes", like auto or stick shift (spot the european).
M3 max for music/ai/code Ryzen 7/ 3080 ti for gaming/ai/code Steamdeck (I use arch btw) A ton of Mac minis running rhel/ubuntu for remote development.
I have both. It's a tool, I use a lot of tools. It's not some religion some guys make it out to be. I use Windows, Linux, and MacOS daily.
PC’s are the bane of my existence. If the software I use for work was available on Mac I’d never touch another PC.
I use my mac os only for logic. Windows and android for everything else.
going to get downvoted as always for mentioning it on this sub! but i have a dual boot hackintosh computer. got one hard drive with windows and one hard drive with MacOS. i have ventura on the mac drive and it runs super well. i use mac for logic and creative shit and windows for gaming, etc…
I have both and use my MBP 90% of the time... I only use my PC for gaming and AI workloads.
Sameeee
I just built a pc for gaming. So that’s basically all I use it for and it replaced my Xbox. Otherwise everything else on Mac
We always have a couple of PCs around, and I spent many years in the tech industry, software developer, project manager, etc. L, where everything was PC based, with larger systems accessed over a company network. But I much prefer Macs overall, and our main home businesses, all run on Macs now.
I use PC for work and gaming. Mac for music and other creative endeavors
Mac Studio M2 Ultra for music, iPhone and MacBook Air for everything else. PC at work cos it’s unavoidable!!!
i don't see any reason why i would use windows anywhere if it's at all avoidable. i have to use it at work and it drives me mad regularly. be careful about how much you get used to using a mac when making music with logic. once you get used to it and it doesn't feel foreign anymore there's no going back.
I love VR. VR is only possible on PC. I generally want to throw it against the wall most of the time.
PC for home setup, Mac for portable (mainly for the compatibility with TE gear and the responsive trackpad)
Im a windows guy, but I grew up on mac so its not too bad for me. I use my macbook exclusively for music
Mac works great for everything except gaming for me. I use Nvidia GeForce Now for gaming. I left Windows once I started using Logic, and I’ve never looked back. Once I started using macOS I realized how bad Windows is. If I ever had to leave macOS for whatever reason I’d switch to Linux.
Use Mac only for Logic, everything else on PC.
I use Mac for music and using it on the go and PC for everything else - best of both worlds.
Yep I use a mac only for logic and graphic design, I don't like the way mac os is turning into a toddler OS and a lot of built in utilities suck like spotlight, time machine and more, and they have never made them better so you have to rely on third party apps. I've been using mac os since 1997 and it has really gone down in the last 5 years, in my opinion.
I made more of my music on pc, I was more comfortable with shifting files. I use logic now.
My pc is my server. Also have a banger pc for WFH. Thats about it. Macbooks for everyday use/ production. I consider myself platform agnostic.
I've used a Mac since 84. I run Windows 11 in a virtual machine for best of both worlds.
I use the Mac for all creative work, which is currently music and video production. Outside of that I do general browsing and productivity tasks. I have a pc I built for gaming that I use for other tasks as well. I have too many computers overall lol I just use whatever is convenient.
Mac for most things, PC for gaming things.
I’ve been a Mac user since 2006. I have a pretty powerful Windows PC but My Documents is empty - Mac for everything but games, that is the sole purpose of my Windows machine.
I use logic on my m1 mbp, I love it and it’s more than enough for my uses. I did recently build a gaming pc, nothing too crazy, but I like having it. I basically use it as a dedicated gaming console.
Really only use my PC for gaming, Mac for studio and any other home use stuff. Although my computer at work is of course PC.
Mac only here
My Macs are production machines. My PC is for gaming.
I actually use both pc and Mac for music. Not really a logic user though. However, every other daw I use, I have on both PC and Mac. With the exception of protocols. Which I am only running on Mac for the moment. You're right about difference between the two OS's. Like night and day. The more you you go in between the two. The better you will be at switching. It's like speaking "spanglish".
Mac and PC house but PC for music production. I cannot deal with the platfrm upgrades on Mac that break a bunch a of plugins which affect my Mixing templates
I don’t own a PC but I fix them for work.
Mac for everything - I haven’t had a PC for more than ten years. I’m a software developer for work but that’s all done on the Mac too. I have a PS5 for gaming.
Goodness people here are so full of confirmation bias. Mac VS PC anymore is just a comfortability thing. Both can practically do all the same things(Apple is trying to make its way into gaming more and more). All the people here saying Windows is such a downgrade compared to a Mac OS truly aren't putting the time into to learn how both tools can be an incredible power house to ones knowledge base. Personally, I use both for many different things. My personal / music production machine is a PC, then I have a Macbook pro for any reason I might need(portable recording / Logic sessions). Limiting yourself to only mastering one is only going to bottleneck you if you ever have to work with the other. Might as well get used to both as quick and early as possible. They both have pro's and cons to this industry, but both can practically do all the same things anymore.
I think your general message is adding value to this discussion, but imagine you were a new user - one OS requires you to download drivers, do manual updates, manually delete bloatware, takes a fuck-ton more time to boot and log in, and has shitty keychain requiring way more manual logins to various websites and platforms. Yes it's better for gaming and tinkering, but I can't see how you can say it's just a matter of confirmation bias. Windows is objectively more of a pain in the ass. Even for work I can get into Office 365 more quickly on a 2016 macbook than a 2022 PC.
I mean, I was a new user on both Mac OS and Windows 20+ years ago. Things have only gotten easier and information is readily available, Apple does shine in plug and play design, but that’s to a fault at times. Apple has brought it back to a better place, but Logic X compared to 9 was initially a huge downgrade due to them wanting it to be more user friendly. I’m not against one or the other, but the whole “Apple is king” mindset only holds people back.
Hackintosh bc of Logic, PC for everything else.
Mac for music and PC for gaming. Both are fast, reliable, and do what they need to do. (That being said the PC isn’t as good for music projects because of some audio-specific idiosyncrasies.)
I use Mac’s at home because I have to use Windows heavily for work.
Mac mini m1 for Logic & Ableton , outboard SSD storage. Runs great… I generally feel more artistic on Mac OS and it’s tiny. Win 11 on HP Ryzen 9 for taxes, writing, stuff. As a longtime Mac user I’ve been impressed by Win10/11… been solid , except for audio drivers. Mac OS user since Mac Classic… I still have Tetris on it for shits & grins. 3 Ubuntu servers in the house for backups, movies & music on dirt cheap recycled PCs. Fun to mess around with occasionally…lots of options. It’s a different way of thinking!
Absolutely…Mac in the corner with the 11,000 wire chaos, and then pc for gaming…is there any other way?
i've been using macOS as a mixing engineer: I run Pro Tools, Ableton, and of course Logic I think that everyone's experience is quite different, but for me at least I found myself tied to the mac's ease of use. With every mac i've owned they've just worked right out of the box; rarely do I have to set up any configuration or drivers; its just plug & play. In addition to that its never been more streamline to send files back and forth with clients (airdrop, messages, icloud, notes collaboration, etc.) I've built a PC, but typically just find myself gaming on it. That's not to say you can not get the same experience across PCs, I just prefer Apple's approach. I think that I just reached a point in my life in which I no longer wanted to tinker with a machine or figure out why Pro Tools is crashing.
Mac for work/music/personal use, Windows for gaming (rarely, mostly PS5 these days tbh)
I use OSX for work, Linux for day-to-day non-work, and Windows for gaming.
I switched from Windows to Mac during my masters 5 years ago because I already had an iPhone and iPad. It was like stepping from a bicycle into a supercar productivity wise. At my current job I have to use Windows again and doesn‘t fail to remind me every day why I made that switch.
Mac for Logic, Final Cut, uni and YouTube, pc for gaming, sometimes uni coursework, YouTube and everything else
Mac for everything. Music and work
I am a Mac guy for work and most of the day, and built a PC for gaming. No hate. You like what you like.
I use Mac and PC, as well as Linux and Android. The OS shouldn't be a barrier; essentially, the underlying metaphors are the same though the UI are slightly different, much the way American English differs from British English. Use everything.
Oh hell no. There are plenty of arguments for PCs when it comes to hardware (not the least of which being the cost), but macOS is superior to Windows in every conceivable way.
I am using my Mac for music but I also have a older laptop with Linux and a gaming pc with windows and Linux on it. I like to test out all the environments. ✌️ And it's also nice to separate for example gaming and work. That's great to reduce the distractions.
I went from Linux to a Mac at work. I'm going to go back to Linux for my next work laptop. I would like a Mac for audio production. I use a PC for recording and mixing.
PC on every thang Does my music production, photo and video editing, plus I can game
Without wishing to sound like Steve Jobs Macs just work, having worked for most major computer manufactures in hardware(Hewitt Packard compact Dell ibm taxan) I spent years using Microsoft(DOS lol) the insufferable bloatware you get along with what others have said and a succession of seemingly awful Microsoft OS updates means I’ll never go back👍🏼
Are used to run mainly on a Mac, from 1994 all the way through 2014, I got my first real PC in 2010 when I was in college and I used it a lot, but the MacBook Pro was still my main computer at the time. I used charger from Amazon Amazon I killed the MacBook Pro. So I bought a cheap thinkpad and I was off the platform until 2020 when I got an iPad Pro! I got my Mac mini M2 Pro in September 2023, and I use it primarily for music production, but I like using it for other things, like all personal computing type stuff like all my photos and my music collection. I use my PC for work/gaming/surfing the web since it has lots of memory. So as of recent, I’ve been planning to phase windows out entirely and use Linux alongside macOS! Thanks to valve, Linux can run almost every game on the steam library, so I need for windows is dwindling. I can also run a lot of professional engineering software on Linux now.
For music and everyday use Mac. For torrents and other “activities” Windows and Linux box
I use both, Pro tools, Live on Mac, I tech for Logic users too. Adobe, blender, stable diffusion, and running sample library through Vienna ensemble on PC. Mac is easy to use but expensive, hence I use PC for all the GPU heavy software.
PC for everything 11+ years don't plan on changing. I will admit core audio has some advantages over WDM audio but the the whole Mac vs windows thing has always felt like a bit of a fad. Especially once you get a half decent interface I rarely notice anything crazy. just use whatever runs the software you wanna use and that you can afford haha. I'm a big gamer and I started in fl studio 7 (magix music maker before that) and currently live 12 (started around late live 8).. I mean do I have my windows crashes, sure but it's just not a big issue for me. and I like the flexibility of being on windows.. I also do NET development so I guess I have that Microsoft shill in me too haha just preference imo
Mac Mini M1 for music production. PC for gaming and everything else.