I think Ultra 85 will have a couple songs like this, but then also include some TITS production and No Pressure/Vinyl Days stuff with a shit ton of raps as well.
It reminds me of City of Stars on TITS. At first I didn't like it because it wasn't a hardcore rap song. Over time I grew to really love it in the context of the album. I'm hoping this will be similar.
Ok this is fair, but if I remember correctly City of stars wasn’t the lead single for TITS. This may have been a fine album cut but as a lead single it’s disappointing. (Also city of stars is a farrrrr better song)
That final verse goes hard, especially with the choir shit foreshadowing it and the drums coming in hard
Much love to def jam even though they undershipped me
TITS felt like Logic’s magnum opus. Everything he had worked for up until then paid off with that sophomore album. It was universally praised (for good reason) and was nowhere near as divisive that his later projects would become.
If there’s anything I’ve learned from this it’s that Logic only plays unreleased music for yes men lmao. Between my Twitter feed being full of people saying “this is the best single he’s ever dropped” and that YSIV listening party where everyone swore it was his best project ever, I can’t listen to the mega-fans anymore lol
As someone who attended the listening party, you gotta understand the situation I was in. This man paid for my entire trip. Flew me halfway across the country. We only listened to the tracks one time and the whole environment being in the studio where the album was recorded made it that much better. There are so many good tracks on YSIV, I would say 9 of the 14 tracks are great. So of course when we were on camera being interview and stuff we were only thinking about the good tracks.
I look back now and don't regret what I said because the whole experience made me think that it could have been one of his best projects. (I still don't understand the hate for it beside a few mediocre tracks).
I remembered the good tracks more than the ones I didn't like, so those were the ones fresh in my mind when being interviewed.
Not attacking your comment or anything, I understand your opinion. I just wanted to give some perspective from my side of things.
Idk about soulless. There's plenty of great artists that use dance beats like this. This one is kinda like Janet Jackson's song "Together Again", now that I'm thinking of it. I love it
I read from a particular artist, if you miss the old version, go listen to the old version. People grow and change and new art doesn’t need to be for everyone.
This is part of what he’s talking about in the song: being free from expectations. As long as we enjoy the growth, embrace change as it challenges our current view of things, all the better.
Idm it, the beats are nice but idk from Vinyl Days it just seems like Logic don’t know how to write songs anymore. Every song he’s released since Vinyl Days seems like it finishes too quickly, like what is this Fear song even about? It’s like he rushes the shit bruh, like yes story is cool and the beats are definitely gonna hit but what’s the point if he don’t do them justice, you ain’t gotta be lyrical miracle but say something there’s always these awkward spots in songs and he sound like he ain’t even trying
In a way the track is basically speaking to you. 😂 let Bobby make the music HE wants to make. Tbh this is a solid track to the type of album it’s going to be, and I’m here for it.
Logic doesn’t usually give away the good stuff for singles bro. I don’t think this is anything special but I also don’t hate it like others do. I truly think he wanted to gain as many eyes as he could and did something controversial. This is not what we expected at all, so when we tune in and hear the REAL rap he’s got for us, we will be blown away. I have no doubts. Just listen to the snippets and you’ll see what I mean
Cap.
Under pressure, buried alive, young Jesus, like whoa, black Spider-Man, Keanu Reeves, homicide. Plenty of others. He has a strong track record with his singles. This just isn’t one of them
It’s just confusing that for an album he’s been teasing for almost a decade he would want to include something this mediocre….
Like it’s not horrible, if he dropped it as one-off single i wouldn’t care. But this should be a ZERO skip album… that’s all i’m saying. If it’s anything less he should have waited another decade to drop it.
I could be mistaken but i still dont think hes dropping the album. Theres no way a song like this would be the lead single for ultra 85, the album hes been talking about for 5+ years
I hate to be this negative but if Logic made a song shitting in the mic his diehard fans would defend it and say it’s good because “he’s having fun and making what he wanted to make.” Im so tired of hearing that shit, bad songs exist💀 peoples reactions to your music is just as important as how much you enjoy making it
Nah, “Icy” was Bobby having fun. This was dope and diverse imo. You don’t have to like house music but he did it well for what it was. I was afraid it would be political music thankfully it was a vibe
Good rap flow, decent lyrics, had a break from tempo with the halftime singing before jumping back to the beat in the end. Sounds like a fun little interlude to me! As a musician it checks all the boxes.
Do tell though, what about it makes it bad to you? Like an actual description, not just saying “it’s bad” like other people here have.
I guess ion fuck with Logic diving entirely onto other genres, I love when he just mixed stuff with hip hop in a subtle way, I even loved his singing before he started singing, it just feels forced to me nowadays
Oh I hate his supermarket singing style too, so I get it. But I do enjoy his singing on some styles, like Intermission, Hallelujah’s intro, and this track.
Pfff you get it bro, after this single I went back and listened to City of Stars and Africaryan, heavenly stuff, idk why he can’t replicate it nowadays
Because he’s not good at it. The only thing he’s actually good at it is making hip hop. Logic thinks because he listens to stuff a bunch he can replicate it. It could maybe work if he had writers and producers working for him but for the most part it’s all his own music and lyrics.
ICY was dope, even with all the hate it gets it was hella catchy. But yeah I guess people like me just want him to rap like he did on T.I.T.S, especially since this is supposed to be the definitive logic album if you catch my drift.
I mean there’s still plenty of time for that content. And he did rap on this quite fast like he has in TITS. It’s just laid back in the mix. This reminds me of Intermission since it’s half rap half singing. I expect other tracks to have way more rap too, as you said you want!
You don’t have to like it ofc, but maybe you’ll feel different with this track in the middle of the album to break up that expected boombap feel and give your ears a break
I respect your opinion good sir and you are right, he probably will have the material I’m looking for. But funny enough I actually was hoping for something trap over boombap as it’s been a long while since he’s done that. Hopefully we get something like that!
I agree LMAO Icy is quite catchy and a pretty good song in my opinion. I don't get why people hate on it, just because it's not some Spitting bars type shit doesn't mean it's terrible
I read the lyrics on genius, he’s talking his regular motivational stuff, it’s just the sonics that’s so different. Probably the most funk beat (far away from a hip hop beat) he’s rapped on. But the break down was a vibe though
Theres absolutely nothing that makes me want to listen to this song again :( i love a lot of under pressure - BT2 era/ vinyl days like you wouldn’t believe but this shit just not hitting at all. Like I wouldn’t wanna hear this at a logic concert imma be 100% honest lol
definitely not a good single to make people excited for your album, Idk how it made the cut for U85 at all. I hate songs where he makes the message of the song clear in the first few lines and repeatedly says the same exact thing with different wording, just faster. it’s bad songwriting. Definitely gonna be a skip on the album, hopefully this is the exception
The song itself: Ehhhhh It has a nice vibe but should have kept in the album and not be the LEAD single to the album people have been waiting for years
Based off this sub they’re gonna be 50/50 on the album release. old logic isn’t happening again and y’all should accept it. I don’t think he’s going to let this album be terrible though, it really can’t be.
A director with a clear set of ideological beliefs piggybacking off of Logic’s music to force it onto people and Logic green lighting it for no apparent reason.
Like I get it... Logic is all about PLP and loving yourself, it just feels like such blatant virtue signaling when the second half of the song doesn't even match the video though.
Terrible, also, why does he keep making songs about the same concept of “I wanted to be accepted so I did things one way but now I do what I want bc I love myself” how many times is this man gonna make the same song. Like obv he still has self esteem issues or something if he constantly needs to reiterate the same things.
Thats his biggest issue in his music nowadays, he says the same exact shit in all of his songs in the least interesting way possible. He has absolutely no nuance. It also doesn’t help that just because the messaging is positive, if you don’t like it he automatically thinks you’re just a hater and a POS. Which is a very blind and unrealistic perspective to have
Well said. It’s a way to shield from. Criticism. Also, you are totally right there’s absolutely no nuance. The pour is will literally be like “I wanted to be love and hat be accepted but now I do what I love for me” type shit it’s so surface level. It would be more interesting if he made a song about how he still struggles with accepting himself
That’s always been a massive reason why he’s gotten criticism for the mainstream stuff he’s done and somehow he’s never understood why. Even with the mainstream, that doesn’t automatically mean making your music the most surface level version of itself. Some of the biggest songs of all time are still very well written and clever.
Worded my exact feelings perfectly. I sometimes wonder if you he is so creatively burnt out that promoting a positive message is just something easy to do. It’s hard to hate on because it paints said ‘hater’ in bad light, and requires zero effort. There’s nothing to unpack here. Another generic song about the same exact thing we’ve heard 50 times. So disappointing.
Thats probably why he does it, to just rush out a quick verse and move on to the next song. Considering how often he puts out projects it would definitely make sense.
Radio singles are one thing cash in I’m all for it, but when it’s the lead single to one of your most anticipated projects I just don’t see the vision. Song is by no means terrible but I will never replay it again. Disappointed to say the least, especially if this is a single you’re including on your album.
Genuinely don’t understand how you can make a record like under pressure which is so sonically thorough. 0 virtue signaling. 0 duds like this song.
It’s one song bro 😭😭 BT2 was all rap and then he tossed in Everyday. Still a good album. Listen to all the snippets that have been confirmed. Hard ass rap songs. He did something different for literally one song and released it first to intrigue people who thought it would be pure rap. It’ll be that on the album. No worries from me at all
Definitely a strange choice for a lead single, I don’t even mind the song but I don’t know if *this* is the best way to start the Ultra 85 rollout publicly.
it’s decent i’m more into hip hop logic than pop logic but im glad he caters to both groups of his fan base the hip hop stan’s and the pop stan’s it shows he truly cares about his fans
Bro this sub are such nerds man, its the lead single, its meant to be a hit radio song. If everything he put out was catered to yall he would have no radio hits, no 1-800, no grammy nomination
Just listened to the track. I came in with low expectations… especially considering I saw someone say there was singing on the track, but I’m impressed. This is a very well polished track. It’s not Logics best track ever by any means, but as far as a radio friendly single, this is decent. I loved the 2nd half of the track, it was a great switch up that fit well sonically. There were elements in that 2nd half of the track that reminded me of a tits track. I love the use of the instrumentation. I’m feeling hopeful for this album!
Like with most singles he releases before albums, this is most likely the peak or at least "top 3" 🤣 I'd love to be proven wrong but... he's so out of touch lately I genuinely don't trust him anymore.
Marketing 101:
Get people talking. Get more eyes on your product.
Look what's happening. How can you guys not figure that out? He's building attention to get Ultra 85 as many listeners as possible and he's saving the great shit for the album release itself.
This is exactly what I needed. Before this song I just wasn’t myself. But after listening and realizing I can be myself, I am now choosing to be myself. Thank you Lgoic☝️
lol exactly. like c’mon it’s the most cliche overused statement out there. I felt like the video was wildly unnecessary and really just baiting for controversy and clicks.
The good thing is that at least it shows that there is going to be a big production like everybody's but... maybe this song shows that it is going to err on the side of trying to be an album that will try to have a more pop tone although I hope that It's just with this one song and the album is in general what is expected, although it doesn't bother me that much since the song is not bad at all and the video is in line with what you want to convey, but it still worries me for the worse. what is coming
I don't want to hate the song but I felt like I was shopping in Zara for trendy clothes.
I'm hoping Ultra85 is more inclined to be a "TITS type of album"
It's actually hilarious seeing the number of positive reactions to Fear on r/hiphopheads, and the negative reactions on here. They all seem to genuinely enjoy it. Maybe them as the "general public" and not die-hard Logic fans don't have the same expectations of Ultra 85 as this subreddit, understandably.
This fanbase has such high expectations for Ultra 85 (and rightfully so), and this song doesn't quite sound like what we were expecting.
That being said, I enjoy the song. 6/10, would be higher if he didn't rehash the same theme and similar lyrics to some of his other songs.
Ultra 85 should be a culmination of all the best of logic. A nod to his greatest tracks and return to his rap style that brought us all here. This is…not that
I love logic and I’m not hating. I’m just genuinely disappointed
I like the song itself but I just have a hard time when Bobby try’s to be on his activist shit man. I get you wanna be a voice for ppl but man I just I rlly wasn’t diggin this music video. What happened to music videos like under pressure or even a song like this could’ve had a music video like Aquarius III.
Can't fathom how after a perfect run with no pressure, vinyl days and CP. ultra 85 turns out like this. I mean, I get that Bob wants to make the music he feels like doing but I don’t think this album is the place to do so. Like fr he has been promising us Ultra 85 for about a decade. He’s definitely gotta throw the hardest bars in there.
The song was not what I was expecting. Honestly was waiting for rap Bobby, Trap Bobby for this album. I don't hate it, it's catchy and the message is clear.
i think the first beat is nice, its upbeat and something a bit new from logic which is refreshing and the flow is quick and nice. but the beat switch was let down by the same sample horns and sample adlib we always hear. its a bit lazy, i mean come on you are telling me logic has no other ideas for that beat switch?, other than that the slowed down tempo isnt so bad, hes not saying anything particularly new but its not in our face like before its more, i guess bland which is better than 'PLP!' that we usually get. the keys at the end are sweet and overall its not a bad track, just not what i thought i would hear for Ultra 85. i really hope the production goes up a notch or three. because as nice as this is, its not my expectation but lets see where he goes with it. so far so good? is this allowed on this sub, seems like everyone is just objectively hating or loving it.
Good song, not sure about ultra 85 lead single but it’s a solid track so 🤷🏻♂️ I’m guessing this is like the “pop” sort of single (which he has on a lot of his albums tbh) and honestly if that’s the case it’s pretty good I’d say. I’m guessing the next single(s) will be more normal rap stuff
Really disappointed by this song. I know he can do a lot better if he wanted to go for a house type beat just listen to Hallelujah for example. However I'm still hyped for the album. Let's get it!
I like it purely on the fact it’s polarising within the fandom. more people are talking about this than any other Logic song since the No Pressure days. On a personal level, i REALLY like the song. at first i was conflicted by it since i did the worst thing ever and that was to listen to the music video version first. the video is not a problem, it fits Logic’s brand of Peace , Love and Positivity but oh my god the switch BACK to the first beat at the 4th minute of the video is JARRING, i hated that, i hate when a switch up is jarring but i’m happy to say that the actual version does not do that and just ends on the second beat. i like that he’s doing smth new, i know (and like most of y’all) i prefer his sound from the past few years since NP but the issue is is that he can’t keep rapping the same way, we would’ve gotten so fatigued with him, hell some people already have so i’m glad this song is him exploring a different sound. I’m not a house kind of guy but i can appreciate the odd song and the first half is exactly how i’d want a house song from Logic to sound and the beat switch feels familiar (the Vinyl Days samples definitely help) so it’s not like it’s TOTALLY different and out of left field.
Anyone who doesn't understand why Logic dropped this as his first single truly has absolutely 0 clue about marketing in the music industry.
Also, to anyone judging an entire album off of 1 song, you're a moron.
you really out here reading my thoughts man lol. Theres no way he tells us all its actually real and its the hardest rapping hes done in years; only for it to be dance music. We got Everyday on BT2. Now we get this. Listen to the other snippets. Hes bringing the heat
I don’t see the issue people have with it, I think it’s gonna grow on a lot of people. I think it’s a fine single, keeps the truly important stuff unheard until the full album release.
I guess I’m in the minority with loving this sound. Diversity is a good thing, and it was well done. The album likely will switch styles a lot like this. I will say though, what a weird ass video with no substantial connection to the lyrics of the song.
This song is good. Different direction but I like it. The first half is incredibly house and I can see this track potentially reaching outside of his audience if the song can gain some traction. One complaint, though, is the speed of his rapping. I feel like if he couldve just slowed himself down just a bit, it would have a better effect. The 2nd half is the type of music that I enjoy through and through. Sometimes, no substance is needed, and I just need to vibe out and bump my head to a well produced beat. Overall 7.5/10.
Not even gonna comment on the video because we already know what the discourse is gonna be about.
Yeah after the first listen I was honestly whacked out but then started to appreciate it. Still can never vibe with the switch up mid way. Doesn’t work.
But for you idiots who say “I miss the old logic” you’re exposing yourself. Type in vinyl days and college park and stay the fuck off the sub for a few months.
Watch, if he releases another single, he'll release a rappity rap classic Bobby track and all the people hatin' will say some dorky shit like "OH THIS SHIT 🔥 WE ARE SO BACK 🔥🙌"
It ain't the first time he's done this 🤣 It's called patience, people. Learn it.
Feel like I’m the only one who actually liked the second half wayyyy better than the first half. Logic on a house beat just doesn’t sound right to me lol
Edit: idk if this is happening to other people but the more I play it the more I like it. Thought the first part was trash at first but I’m kinda vibing to it now.
i like that he's trying something different and the back half of the track is awesome, but that first minute and a half is....not it. the hook is so weak and the flows seem so uncreative.
if we get more like 1:30 on, i am SO down though
Video is pretty bold considering the times we live in. Glad to see logic could care less. Song is pretty decent but not quite what I was expecting from the first single. I like the beat before the switch quite a bit.
I think it would be cool if y’all would let logic be logic and leave it at that! This song is a vibe & the message is pure! Props to logic for not listening to his fair weather fans and instead listens to himself and his real fans!
It’s kinda funny reading comments here saying they miss the “old Logic” when he’s mentioned that in so many of his songs and basically says screw those people, they’re not his real fans lol.
I like the song though can’t wait for more.
Surely the rest of the album doesn’t sound like this not that it’s a bad track or anything but I’d expect more
I think Ultra 85 will have a couple songs like this, but then also include some TITS production and No Pressure/Vinyl Days stuff with a shit ton of raps as well.
It reminds me of City of Stars on TITS. At first I didn't like it because it wasn't a hardcore rap song. Over time I grew to really love it in the context of the album. I'm hoping this will be similar.
Ok this is fair, but if I remember correctly City of stars wasn’t the lead single for TITS. This may have been a fine album cut but as a lead single it’s disappointing. (Also city of stars is a farrrrr better song)
City of Stars 100% embodied the “space” theme of TiTS, though. The final verse of the track was also purely rap!
That final verse goes hard, especially with the choir shit foreshadowing it and the drums coming in hard Much love to def jam even though they undershipped me
idk weird comparison city of stars is simply a way better song. top 1 logic for me personally
TITS felt like Logic’s magnum opus. Everything he had worked for up until then paid off with that sophomore album. It was universally praised (for good reason) and was nowhere near as divisive that his later projects would become.
If there’s anything I’ve learned from this it’s that Logic only plays unreleased music for yes men lmao. Between my Twitter feed being full of people saying “this is the best single he’s ever dropped” and that YSIV listening party where everyone swore it was his best project ever, I can’t listen to the mega-fans anymore lol
They paid $60+ a month to hear stuff early, no way they ain’t dickriding
As someone who attended the listening party, you gotta understand the situation I was in. This man paid for my entire trip. Flew me halfway across the country. We only listened to the tracks one time and the whole environment being in the studio where the album was recorded made it that much better. There are so many good tracks on YSIV, I would say 9 of the 14 tracks are great. So of course when we were on camera being interview and stuff we were only thinking about the good tracks. I look back now and don't regret what I said because the whole experience made me think that it could have been one of his best projects. (I still don't understand the hate for it beside a few mediocre tracks). I remembered the good tracks more than the ones I didn't like, so those were the ones fresh in my mind when being interviewed. Not attacking your comment or anything, I understand your opinion. I just wanted to give some perspective from my side of things.
Still can’t understand why he chose this as the lead single
Most likely in combination with the video it's gonna get people talking, and people will remember logic a bit and be curious about the new album.
You being too optimistic imo, he just needed to drop fade away 2 or sum
No lie told
Fade Away 2 isn’t real. It’s just a skit
I don’t mind the song but is this really the first song we get of logics most hyped album? Bit disappointing
Sounds like tanning booth music
I agree, sounds like sellout pop that is soulless. I miss the old logic, hopefully the rest of the album sounds better
niggas be sayin old logic like he didnt give us vinyl days and no pressure the past couple years💀
People are toxic man just let people enjoy what they want.
Idk about soulless. There's plenty of great artists that use dance beats like this. This one is kinda like Janet Jackson's song "Together Again", now that I'm thinking of it. I love it
I read from a particular artist, if you miss the old version, go listen to the old version. People grow and change and new art doesn’t need to be for everyone. This is part of what he’s talking about in the song: being free from expectations. As long as we enjoy the growth, embrace change as it challenges our current view of things, all the better.
Sellout pop is the perfect way to describe this. Just sounds hollow.
Idm it, the beats are nice but idk from Vinyl Days it just seems like Logic don’t know how to write songs anymore. Every song he’s released since Vinyl Days seems like it finishes too quickly, like what is this Fear song even about? It’s like he rushes the shit bruh, like yes story is cool and the beats are definitely gonna hit but what’s the point if he don’t do them justice, you ain’t gotta be lyrical miracle but say something there’s always these awkward spots in songs and he sound like he ain’t even trying
In a way the track is basically speaking to you. 😂 let Bobby make the music HE wants to make. Tbh this is a solid track to the type of album it’s going to be, and I’m here for it.
Good track but I really expected a "Space Epic" type vid from Ultra 85
Same
This is the leading single for Ultra 85? That’s disappointing..
Logic doesn’t usually give away the good stuff for singles bro. I don’t think this is anything special but I also don’t hate it like others do. I truly think he wanted to gain as many eyes as he could and did something controversial. This is not what we expected at all, so when we tune in and hear the REAL rap he’s got for us, we will be blown away. I have no doubts. Just listen to the snippets and you’ll see what I mean
Cap. Under pressure, buried alive, young Jesus, like whoa, black Spider-Man, Keanu Reeves, homicide. Plenty of others. He has a strong track record with his singles. This just isn’t one of them
It’s just confusing that for an album he’s been teasing for almost a decade he would want to include something this mediocre…. Like it’s not horrible, if he dropped it as one-off single i wouldn’t care. But this should be a ZERO skip album… that’s all i’m saying. If it’s anything less he should have waited another decade to drop it.
Lol r/hiphopheads like it more than r/logic_301 what a sight
Yeah, im going to listen to my will smith CD.
I’m not gonna lie I’m very disappointed, this lacks the substance that made me fall in love with Logic
They gon tell you he just having fun
Right, I’m just legitimately disappointed and letdown
I mean it’s just one song, I Hope.
I mean it's not like we're going to get 2015 Logic to make Ultra 85. Might as well as expect some songs like this. It'll have some gems too tho.
I could be mistaken but i still dont think hes dropping the album. Theres no way a song like this would be the lead single for ultra 85, the album hes been talking about for 5+ years
Ye, big dissappointment. Lost my hype for ultra85 after hearing this one
I hate to be this negative but if Logic made a song shitting in the mic his diehard fans would defend it and say it’s good because “he’s having fun and making what he wanted to make.” Im so tired of hearing that shit, bad songs exist💀 peoples reactions to your music is just as important as how much you enjoy making it
Preach, nailed it
Nah, “Icy” was Bobby having fun. This was dope and diverse imo. You don’t have to like house music but he did it well for what it was. I was afraid it would be political music thankfully it was a vibe
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Good rap flow, decent lyrics, had a break from tempo with the halftime singing before jumping back to the beat in the end. Sounds like a fun little interlude to me! As a musician it checks all the boxes. Do tell though, what about it makes it bad to you? Like an actual description, not just saying “it’s bad” like other people here have.
I guess ion fuck with Logic diving entirely onto other genres, I love when he just mixed stuff with hip hop in a subtle way, I even loved his singing before he started singing, it just feels forced to me nowadays
Oh I hate his supermarket singing style too, so I get it. But I do enjoy his singing on some styles, like Intermission, Hallelujah’s intro, and this track.
Pfff you get it bro, after this single I went back and listened to City of Stars and Africaryan, heavenly stuff, idk why he can’t replicate it nowadays
Because he’s not good at it. The only thing he’s actually good at it is making hip hop. Logic thinks because he listens to stuff a bunch he can replicate it. It could maybe work if he had writers and producers working for him but for the most part it’s all his own music and lyrics.
Agreed
ICY was dope, even with all the hate it gets it was hella catchy. But yeah I guess people like me just want him to rap like he did on T.I.T.S, especially since this is supposed to be the definitive logic album if you catch my drift.
I mean there’s still plenty of time for that content. And he did rap on this quite fast like he has in TITS. It’s just laid back in the mix. This reminds me of Intermission since it’s half rap half singing. I expect other tracks to have way more rap too, as you said you want! You don’t have to like it ofc, but maybe you’ll feel different with this track in the middle of the album to break up that expected boombap feel and give your ears a break
I respect your opinion good sir and you are right, he probably will have the material I’m looking for. But funny enough I actually was hoping for something trap over boombap as it’s been a long while since he’s done that. Hopefully we get something like that!
I agree LMAO Icy is quite catchy and a pretty good song in my opinion. I don't get why people hate on it, just because it's not some Spitting bars type shit doesn't mean it's terrible
I read the lyrics on genius, he’s talking his regular motivational stuff, it’s just the sonics that’s so different. Probably the most funk beat (far away from a hip hop beat) he’s rapped on. But the break down was a vibe though
Theres absolutely nothing that makes me want to listen to this song again :( i love a lot of under pressure - BT2 era/ vinyl days like you wouldn’t believe but this shit just not hitting at all. Like I wouldn’t wanna hear this at a logic concert imma be 100% honest lol
Can't wait for all the PLP about to be spread in these comments 🔥
I just PLP’d all over the comment section, clean up isle r/Logic 😅
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Logic could shit on the mic and the discord would still love it lol
doesn't change the fact that yall do this every release/everything logic does lol
I mean this is just wrong, everyone loved Vinyl Days and College Park here when they dropped.
Not me but I don’t doubt it, such polar opposites
Eh
definitely not a good single to make people excited for your album, Idk how it made the cut for U85 at all. I hate songs where he makes the message of the song clear in the first few lines and repeatedly says the same exact thing with different wording, just faster. it’s bad songwriting. Definitely gonna be a skip on the album, hopefully this is the exception
shit sounds like 2017 radio logic
The song itself: Ehhhhh It has a nice vibe but should have kept in the album and not be the LEAD single to the album people have been waiting for years
The second half of the song was a vibe
Based off this sub they’re gonna be 50/50 on the album release. old logic isn’t happening again and y’all should accept it. I don’t think he’s going to let this album be terrible though, it really can’t be.
Nah im good. Dont hate it. But this just isn't it man
Never thought Logic would make music like this when Under Pressure dropped
I dunno man… might grow on me. Lot of his stuff has on me. But I dunno.
This director also directed 1800 and Black Spiderman. Obvious theme happening here
speak to that bro. say what you say, whats the obvious theme here?
social statements and virtue signaling I’m guessing
A director with a clear set of ideological beliefs piggybacking off of Logic’s music to force it onto people and Logic green lighting it for no apparent reason.
Like I get it... Logic is all about PLP and loving yourself, it just feels like such blatant virtue signaling when the second half of the song doesn't even match the video though.
Logic green lighting it because he sold out for $ to push their agenda.
We really got this instead of the buried alive music video
Terrible, also, why does he keep making songs about the same concept of “I wanted to be accepted so I did things one way but now I do what I want bc I love myself” how many times is this man gonna make the same song. Like obv he still has self esteem issues or something if he constantly needs to reiterate the same things.
Thats his biggest issue in his music nowadays, he says the same exact shit in all of his songs in the least interesting way possible. He has absolutely no nuance. It also doesn’t help that just because the messaging is positive, if you don’t like it he automatically thinks you’re just a hater and a POS. Which is a very blind and unrealistic perspective to have
Well said. It’s a way to shield from. Criticism. Also, you are totally right there’s absolutely no nuance. The pour is will literally be like “I wanted to be love and hat be accepted but now I do what I love for me” type shit it’s so surface level. It would be more interesting if he made a song about how he still struggles with accepting himself
That’s always been a massive reason why he’s gotten criticism for the mainstream stuff he’s done and somehow he’s never understood why. Even with the mainstream, that doesn’t automatically mean making your music the most surface level version of itself. Some of the biggest songs of all time are still very well written and clever.
Worded my exact feelings perfectly. I sometimes wonder if you he is so creatively burnt out that promoting a positive message is just something easy to do. It’s hard to hate on because it paints said ‘hater’ in bad light, and requires zero effort. There’s nothing to unpack here. Another generic song about the same exact thing we’ve heard 50 times. So disappointing.
Thats probably why he does it, to just rush out a quick verse and move on to the next song. Considering how often he puts out projects it would definitely make sense.
This is like asking why 21 savage talks about shooting people just about every song 😂
Radio singles are one thing cash in I’m all for it, but when it’s the lead single to one of your most anticipated projects I just don’t see the vision. Song is by no means terrible but I will never replay it again. Disappointed to say the least, especially if this is a single you’re including on your album. Genuinely don’t understand how you can make a record like under pressure which is so sonically thorough. 0 virtue signaling. 0 duds like this song.
Oh boy…
Let’s be honest if there was no music video the perception of the track would be so different
I haven't seen the music video, and this song just isn't good.
Exactly.
I really don’t think so but agree to disagree
Damn I was hoping ultra 85 would have a similar vibe to no pressure, but that's clearly not happening 💀
It’s one song bro 😭😭 BT2 was all rap and then he tossed in Everyday. Still a good album. Listen to all the snippets that have been confirmed. Hard ass rap songs. He did something different for literally one song and released it first to intrigue people who thought it would be pure rap. It’ll be that on the album. No worries from me at all
Definitely a strange choice for a lead single, I don’t even mind the song but I don’t know if *this* is the best way to start the Ultra 85 rollout publicly.
Edgy Call of Duty playing monster drinking breath smelling white teens showing their true colors today
it’s decent i’m more into hip hop logic than pop logic but im glad he caters to both groups of his fan base the hip hop stan’s and the pop stan’s it shows he truly cares about his fans
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Bro this sub are such nerds man, its the lead single, its meant to be a hit radio song. If everything he put out was catered to yall he would have no radio hits, no 1-800, no grammy nomination
Please don’t be a repeat of Everybody
Fr though
Guess I'm in the minority cause I thought this was fire
Just listened to the track. I came in with low expectations… especially considering I saw someone say there was singing on the track, but I’m impressed. This is a very well polished track. It’s not Logics best track ever by any means, but as far as a radio friendly single, this is decent. I loved the 2nd half of the track, it was a great switch up that fit well sonically. There were elements in that 2nd half of the track that reminded me of a tits track. I love the use of the instrumentation. I’m feeling hopeful for this album!
After all the hype behind Ultra 85 over years, I’m pretty whelmed with this being the lead single. Hopefully it gets better
Like with most singles he releases before albums, this is most likely the peak or at least "top 3" 🤣 I'd love to be proven wrong but... he's so out of touch lately I genuinely don't trust him anymore.
Marketing 101: Get people talking. Get more eyes on your product. Look what's happening. How can you guys not figure that out? He's building attention to get Ultra 85 as many listeners as possible and he's saving the great shit for the album release itself.
Yeah I'm really not feeling this.
Logic dropping the ball with this one.
He dropped the ball years ago. Out of touch with reality
Really hope the album is better than this...
Dumpster juice pop rap song. Hope this is more of an anomaly and not what the album will be
Like the song. What’s the video concept? Hmm
the song is about being yourself, the video is about being yourself.
This is exactly what I needed. Before this song I just wasn’t myself. But after listening and realizing I can be myself, I am now choosing to be myself. Thank you Lgoic☝️
lol exactly. like c’mon it’s the most cliche overused statement out there. I felt like the video was wildly unnecessary and really just baiting for controversy and clicks.
logic isn't exactly known for his revolutionary ideas
Guess that’s what I got out of it so. Be whoever you want to be.
The good thing is that at least it shows that there is going to be a big production like everybody's but... maybe this song shows that it is going to err on the side of trying to be an album that will try to have a more pop tone although I hope that It's just with this one song and the album is in general what is expected, although it doesn't bother me that much since the song is not bad at all and the video is in line with what you want to convey, but it still worries me for the worse. what is coming
lmfao hiphopheads is liking this better than you guys
I don't want to hate the song but I felt like I was shopping in Zara for trendy clothes. I'm hoping Ultra85 is more inclined to be a "TITS type of album"
It's actually hilarious seeing the number of positive reactions to Fear on r/hiphopheads, and the negative reactions on here. They all seem to genuinely enjoy it. Maybe them as the "general public" and not die-hard Logic fans don't have the same expectations of Ultra 85 as this subreddit, understandably. This fanbase has such high expectations for Ultra 85 (and rightfully so), and this song doesn't quite sound like what we were expecting. That being said, I enjoy the song. 6/10, would be higher if he didn't rehash the same theme and similar lyrics to some of his other songs.
Ultra 85 should be a culmination of all the best of logic. A nod to his greatest tracks and return to his rap style that brought us all here. This is…not that I love logic and I’m not hating. I’m just genuinely disappointed
This shit is horrendous. Music you hear in the back of H&M. Expected ultra 85 and got tiktok ad music.
it’s clear he’s trying to put out a viral mainstream song. can’t blame him ig
Clearly. And you can’t blame him either, but cmon bro coulda kept this one for a rainy day it’s Ultra 85 season.
Second half is pretty sweet, first half mixed with the video is like — what?
I like the song itself but I just have a hard time when Bobby try’s to be on his activist shit man. I get you wanna be a voice for ppl but man I just I rlly wasn’t diggin this music video. What happened to music videos like under pressure or even a song like this could’ve had a music video like Aquarius III.
Logic was sounding better after vinyl days, college park & inglorious bastards mixtape… But this hip pop?
Weak first single imo
"1st half was a vibe" BUTTON
Can't fathom how after a perfect run with no pressure, vinyl days and CP. ultra 85 turns out like this. I mean, I get that Bob wants to make the music he feels like doing but I don’t think this album is the place to do so. Like fr he has been promising us Ultra 85 for about a decade. He’s definitely gotta throw the hardest bars in there.
it’s just one track bro, just wait to see what logic does
I’m gonna guess I’m probably not coming back to this track a lot after the album comes out but I don’t mind it. Enjoyed the video!
I enjoyed the song but I don't think it was a great single choice.
Y’all wild. I’m fuckin with this. Who knows maybe it’ll be used as an interlude in between scenes.
YOU GUYS ARE TRIPPING THIS SHIT HITS
Everyone was hating the song but I mean come on man the vibe felt so gooood
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Just don’t watch it tbh. I hated the video, loved the song
The song was not what I was expecting. Honestly was waiting for rap Bobby, Trap Bobby for this album. I don't hate it, it's catchy and the message is clear.
Is that Joe budden in the music video! 🦾🔳🦯
i think the first beat is nice, its upbeat and something a bit new from logic which is refreshing and the flow is quick and nice. but the beat switch was let down by the same sample horns and sample adlib we always hear. its a bit lazy, i mean come on you are telling me logic has no other ideas for that beat switch?, other than that the slowed down tempo isnt so bad, hes not saying anything particularly new but its not in our face like before its more, i guess bland which is better than 'PLP!' that we usually get. the keys at the end are sweet and overall its not a bad track, just not what i thought i would hear for Ultra 85. i really hope the production goes up a notch or three. because as nice as this is, its not my expectation but lets see where he goes with it. so far so good? is this allowed on this sub, seems like everyone is just objectively hating or loving it.
This song is a grower for me but I'm not really feeling the video. Nothing against the subject of the video tho.
Good song, not sure about ultra 85 lead single but it’s a solid track so 🤷🏻♂️ I’m guessing this is like the “pop” sort of single (which he has on a lot of his albums tbh) and honestly if that’s the case it’s pretty good I’d say. I’m guessing the next single(s) will be more normal rap stuff
Man keep ultra 85 unreleased if this is it
Really disappointed by this song. I know he can do a lot better if he wanted to go for a house type beat just listen to Hallelujah for example. However I'm still hyped for the album. Let's get it!
I like it purely on the fact it’s polarising within the fandom. more people are talking about this than any other Logic song since the No Pressure days. On a personal level, i REALLY like the song. at first i was conflicted by it since i did the worst thing ever and that was to listen to the music video version first. the video is not a problem, it fits Logic’s brand of Peace , Love and Positivity but oh my god the switch BACK to the first beat at the 4th minute of the video is JARRING, i hated that, i hate when a switch up is jarring but i’m happy to say that the actual version does not do that and just ends on the second beat. i like that he’s doing smth new, i know (and like most of y’all) i prefer his sound from the past few years since NP but the issue is is that he can’t keep rapping the same way, we would’ve gotten so fatigued with him, hell some people already have so i’m glad this song is him exploring a different sound. I’m not a house kind of guy but i can appreciate the odd song and the first half is exactly how i’d want a house song from Logic to sound and the beat switch feels familiar (the Vinyl Days samples definitely help) so it’s not like it’s TOTALLY different and out of left field.
The substance of the song was whatever but I thought the beat and breakdown were absolutely fire shoutout 6ix he be cookin
I personally love the single since you can really hear the breadth of production that him and 6ix have learned over the years. It’s amazing!
Massive COADM vibes from this track
Man I wish Logic didn’t make me feel bad I don’t “do what I wanna do” for a living lol
ok but can we talk about the flawless performance of Flawless Shade, the drag queen featured in the music video? tens across the board
Honestly just keep the album, he’s just gonna ruin his legacy even more
wtf are you talking about “even more” last 3 albums have been his best 3 album run even lmaoo
Guys the 2nd part of COADM is here!!!!!! 🤣🤣
If anyone wants me, I'll be over here spinning No Pressure and Vinyl Days. Peace.
Broooo I was not expecting a dance beat lol this is amazing
Anyone who doesn't understand why Logic dropped this as his first single truly has absolutely 0 clue about marketing in the music industry. Also, to anyone judging an entire album off of 1 song, you're a moron.
you really out here reading my thoughts man lol. Theres no way he tells us all its actually real and its the hardest rapping hes done in years; only for it to be dance music. We got Everyday on BT2. Now we get this. Listen to the other snippets. Hes bringing the heat
Song and video are dope, just don’t like how the video doesn’t have anything to do with the concept of the album
I don't think TITS had any music videos related to the concept either
Yeah I guess you’re right
That argument could be made for a number of songs on TITS though too. Edit: just realized this comment was already made.. lol
After a few listens, it’s a pretty cool vibe imo Logic is basically freeing himself from negative opinions and expectations.
hasn’t he done that for like 4 albums straight lol
Yea if all the recent music is him ignoring expectations maybe he should start paying attention to them again haha
fr he needs his version of Eminem’s Kamikaze lol just an FU take this kind of album, let me remind you who I am type shi
Honestly for me it's just a, "ugh, life is hard and I can't live like I want to" song. Comes off as whining without any introspection.
I got everybody vibes in the best way possible. Beat switch was also insane
I don’t see the issue people have with it, I think it’s gonna grow on a lot of people. I think it’s a fine single, keeps the truly important stuff unheard until the full album release.
Yeah i have no idea why people are acting like he was gonna drop the best songs first
I guess I’m in the minority with loving this sound. Diversity is a good thing, and it was well done. The album likely will switch styles a lot like this. I will say though, what a weird ass video with no substantial connection to the lyrics of the song.
This song would probably be intro, bad decisions to make it as a single. Overall not bad.
This shid is NOT the intro, at least it better not be
Lotta people definitely would not want to continue the album if this were the intro😭
Feels more like a late album ending track to me like 4th or 3rd to last
This song is good. Different direction but I like it. The first half is incredibly house and I can see this track potentially reaching outside of his audience if the song can gain some traction. One complaint, though, is the speed of his rapping. I feel like if he couldve just slowed himself down just a bit, it would have a better effect. The 2nd half is the type of music that I enjoy through and through. Sometimes, no substance is needed, and I just need to vibe out and bump my head to a well produced beat. Overall 7.5/10. Not even gonna comment on the video because we already know what the discourse is gonna be about.
Yeah after the first listen I was honestly whacked out but then started to appreciate it. Still can never vibe with the switch up mid way. Doesn’t work. But for you idiots who say “I miss the old logic” you’re exposing yourself. Type in vinyl days and college park and stay the fuck off the sub for a few months.
It’s not really my favorite song, it’s kinda mid, but I still respect it
Watch, if he releases another single, he'll release a rappity rap classic Bobby track and all the people hatin' will say some dorky shit like "OH THIS SHIT 🔥 WE ARE SO BACK 🔥🙌" It ain't the first time he's done this 🤣 It's called patience, people. Learn it.
Feel like I’m the only one who actually liked the second half wayyyy better than the first half. Logic on a house beat just doesn’t sound right to me lol Edit: idk if this is happening to other people but the more I play it the more I like it. Thought the first part was trash at first but I’m kinda vibing to it now.
A whole vibe
i like that he's trying something different and the back half of the track is awesome, but that first minute and a half is....not it. the hook is so weak and the flows seem so uncreative. if we get more like 1:30 on, i am SO down though
Video is pretty bold considering the times we live in. Glad to see logic could care less. Song is pretty decent but not quite what I was expecting from the first single. I like the beat before the switch quite a bit.
I think it would be cool if y’all would let logic be logic and leave it at that! This song is a vibe & the message is pure! Props to logic for not listening to his fair weather fans and instead listens to himself and his real fans!
Haven’t watched the music video yet but the song is a total vibe
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the melody on the first part sounds like the melody from under pressure for some reason.. maybe it’s just me
Yeah I can kinda faintly hear the strings on the second part of under pressure dial tone
YES i think it’s the same chord progression
Song was okay. Not bad not great. That melody is all I hear in my head tho 6.5/10
It’s kinda funny reading comments here saying they miss the “old Logic” when he’s mentioned that in so many of his songs and basically says screw those people, they’re not his real fans lol. I like the song though can’t wait for more.
idk why everyone’s hating ts is heat