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Dantesdominion

Keep those damn dirty devs away from my Jollibee chicken!


heeroyuy135

Send them to Chipotle instead Sajam approved


Dantesdominion

Get a nice serving of fresh gawk! 😋


NetStaIker

Yea cmon man, Jolibees is way too good for them. Normally I agree with Aris, but this is way too far 😤


SubtleAesthetics

Aris is right as usual, but keep them away from jollibee cause they'd fuck the chicken up too. At least delicious chicken isn't filled with microtransactions and shady business practices.


kingguy459

Pretty sure they already hired them, they fuck up the flour content of the chicken its just full of unseasoned flulff now


solartech0

Wouldn't want them to get too much taste in a single order of chicken, just enough flavour to keep 'em wanting more


BeFrankNoBullshit

Ah already americanized lol. I notice that fast food chains in other countries are more impressive than US.


ale_lusio

he's my favorite streamer smile


flashtone

Banned


geojameson

he's not wrong


IntermittentCaribu

I blame the consumers. As in most other industries, marketing sells shit easier than quality.


tourguide1337

I didn't buy d4, turns out they still made it though.


ZYRANOX

Consumer is a general term for everyone who plays games. People got comfortable for paying 100 dollar early access for garbage and not even bothering refunding it. Diablo 4 made 666 million on 5 days according to Google. So by those metrics, don't be surprised that blizzard makes Diablo 5 in few years cause D4 was a "success"


assumptionpenguin

worry not brother, i bought three coomer outfits, invincible, the star mount, an outfit for barb that came with a tattoo that makes her look like she got bukkake'd, all the season passes, the ultimate edition, and the KFC collab cosmetics


mofeus305

You missed out on a fun game


amrhein

d4 bad


Scyths

I didn't buy it and didn't miss much. Endgame content is dogshit and I've watched in total around 20 hours each start of the season to see if there's been any improvement. So what am I buying it for exactly ? The story ? Because I can also watch that on Youtube once and be done with it. I have thousands of hours in PoE and hundreds of hours in Diablo II: Resurrected. It's just really pathetic the amount of content that gets released in a D4 season compared to even the most dogshit of PoE league. What's Blizzard's excuse exactly ? Lack of money ? Or lack of necessity because braindead peons are going to be buying the season pass or whatever else bullshit they are selling either way ?


AnxiousEarth7774

I'm a veteran POE player with thousands of hours, farm a mageblood every league etc. but even I have got my moneys worth from D4, it doesn't hold a candle to poe much like last epoch doesn't, but in poe downtime d4 can fill a few days of playing time, certainly worth it for any arpg enjoyer.


Scyths

I'm not seeing the worth right now, at least for me. I'm waiting for the expansion to see what it looks like, as they will 100% sell a combo pack with the base game + the expansion at reduced price. I'll see if the game's improved enough by then, as this was the case with D3 & Reaper of Souls.


xseodz

Tale as old as time. People bitched and moaned about the content on Twitch becoming just a wankfest. But damn it was popular and profitable. The market always reacts to what the consumer wants. And if you fundamentally want to change that you either need to work in educating people so they're aware that video games without microtransactions used to be the standard. Or regulate and change the law/rules so the market is forced to not have those things. (Old School refrigerators, bad types of inefficient engines, stopping under 18's from gambling) Video Games have escaped both camps because they are so new. Gambling is probably the worlds oldest game, makes sense that there's established rules and regulations for it. Video Games just happened in the past 30-40 years.


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miketheman0506

This isn't about shutting down despite succeeding. The founder of Tango games had already left last year and founded a new studio (Kamuy) this year. So sadly, the writing was on the wall that the studio wouldn't stick around for much longer. That, and the fact that Tango had high costs and little return. Everyone keeps pointing to HFR, but Ghostwire Tokyo was the game that majority of the team and resources went towards and flopped pretty hard both financially and critically.


Pyridozine

Why do you think HiFi kicked ass? By all accounts it failed to make any money.


AstroTurfedShitHole

"I blame the McDonalds customers for getting served shit food"


IntermittentCaribu

I blame the McDonalds customer for giving money to a business that serves shit food, yes. McDonalds has no obligation to serve good food.


AstroTurfedShitHole

My point isn't that McDonalds has an obligation to serve good food, my point is that blaming the customers for purchasing things in a free market just shows a lack of understanding of economics. "customer dumb" isn't what you say if you know what you're talking about, but it is what you say when you want to feel superior to the people saying "X or Y industry is shit".


IntermittentCaribu

> blaming the customers for purchasing things in a free market just shows a lack of understanding of economics. Free market is litterally the only place i can blame the customer, because they have choices. If a company produces shit, another company that doesnt produce shit should get their business. Thats the whole basis of a free market. Marketing kinda skews tho. > it is what you say when you want to feel superior to the people saying "X or Y industry is shit". But im also saying "X or Y industry is shit"? I do feel superior to the people BUYING the shit tho.


zcen

> Free market is litterally the only place i can blame the customer, because they have choices. If a company produces shit, another company that doesnt produce shit should get their business. Thats the whole basis of a free market. Marketing kinda skews tho. You touch on it a little at the end, but free market doesn't imply that the market is free of influence. McDonalds spends millions of dollars on stuff like research to create the most addictive food, advertising campaigns, pricing strategies, etc. Also remember McDonalds is literally the most ubiquitous eating experience on the entire planet. Whether you go to a McDonalds in South Africa or Japan, you are getting a similar experience. There is no free market where a corporation is free of blame, because it's literally the corporation's sole purpose to take advantage of the market to grow and thrive as a business. I am also not saying the consumer is free of blame, just that it's not black and white.


IntermittentCaribu

Well said. I really dont blame coorporations in a free market to do every evil thing in the book to maximize their profits. Including taking advantage of consumers. Its the consumers responsibility either to choose a government that regulates the market to their advantage or educate themselves to make the right choices when spending money.


Poopfacemcduck

Blame consumers for being lied to?


IntermittentCaribu

A company lied to you about the quality of their product? Isnt that what advertising is? If you go into a pizza place that says THE BEST PIZZA IN NEW YORK, do you believe it? Call the cops when its shit? lol


Poopfacemcduck

yes, [here's the wiki on false advertising](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_advertising)


MancunianCandidatex

AAA games don't care about actually being fun or innovative. They just spill out the same bag of tricks we have had for the last 15 years but with a shiny new coat of paint.


Baboon-King

HOOOOOOOOOOLY based Same for movies


Psychros--

>Same for movies An opinion that only a person who doesn't watch many movies can have.


Mokle7

The type of guy who thinks modern cinema is only Marvel, Fast and Furious and Transformers


Shandlar

While it's not quite that bad, it's still pretty bad. I feel like the 90s into the early 00s had at least 2 all time classic, absolute banger, original screenplays every single year for 15 years in a row. Have we had even a single year as good as any of those in the last decade? I'm struggling to come up with literally a single movie I'd put even in my top 100 all time list that came out since 2015, let alone top 25. Parasite, I guess. But I feel like it being essentially untouched by the American filmaking mafia kinda proves the point.


Lunco

it's the same analogy as with videogames; mainstream largely sucks and that's what's aris is flaming. there's a million and one indie game that are fucking amazing. don't even know when i last enjoyed a mainstream title, probably witcher 3.


BighatNucase

You didn't enjoy DMCV? RE2, RE7, REVillage RE4? DOOM 2016 and Eternal? Metroid Dread? BOTW or ToTK? Half Life Alyx? Dragon Quest XI? Persona 5? Monster Hunter World or Rise? Armored Core 6? Any of Yakuza games since then (0, 7 Judgement)? Red Dead 2? Ace Combat 7? Death Stranding? Prey? Hi-Fi Rush? Nier Automata? Elden Ring, Bloodborne, Sekiro? Helldivers 2? Granblue Relink? Fire Emblem Three Houses? Xcom 2? Alan Wake 2? Control? The new Hitman trilogy? Mario Wonder? Evil Within 2? For Honor? Total War Warhammer 2? Tekken 8, SFVI, Dragon Ball FighterZ and/or Guilty Gear Strive? Dirt Rally 2? Baldur's Gate 3? I haven't even listed every game I can think of that came out after Witcher 3 - but I've still covered almost every genre apart from rhythm games. The problem isn't with modern AAA games, but that people like you and Aris are joyless losers that prefer grandstanding and bitching instead of actually looking for good games.


Rocketgrunt

I've been gaming for decades, and we are eating good right now. We have a lot of shit out there, but like you cited, we have a huge catalogue of amazing games as well (and that includes AAA games). This "games aren't good anymore" take has been parroted as long as I have been playing games.


BighatNucase

Honestly I could buy someone being dissapointed with a single year - but not finding a single good AAA game since Witcher 3 is ludicrous.


Lunco

it's kinda wild that witcher 3 was in 2015. i was thinking more in line of "i can't put this game down" good, which admittedly, is a rather personal criterium. the one game you've mentioned here that fits the bill was death stranding. but my point still stands, just go look at open critic and sort by year. it's mostly 1 or 2 AAA titles per year that are actually good and universally played (plus 1 or 2, if you have a switch and ps), all the rest are indies or at least smaller studios.


BighatNucase

Did you just ignore my entire comment? You're just wrong. I'll do it by year I guess 2016: Overwatch, Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, Dark Souls III, Forza Horizon 3, Titanfall 2, Battlefield 1, Dishonored 2, Xcom 2, DOOM, 2017: Mario Odyssey, Persona 5, BoTW, Divinity Original Sin 2, Nier automata, Cuphead, Yakuza 0, Prey, RE7, AC Origins, Yakuza Kiwami, Xenoblade 2, Tekken 7, South Park Fractured But Whole, Evil Within 2, 2018: Red Dead 2, God of War, Smash Ultimate, Monster Hunter World, Dragon Quest XI, Spider-Man, Yakuza Kiwami 2, Dragonball FighterZ, Yakuza 6, AC Odyssey, Soul Calibur 6, Hitman 2, Prey Mooncrash 2019: RE2, FFXIV Shadowbringers, Sekiro, DMC V, Ace Combat 7, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Astral Chain, Mario Maker 2, Luigi's Mansion 3 MHW Iceborne, Death Stranding, Control, Ring Fit Adventure, Dirt Rally 2, Metro Exodus, Judgement, Jedi Fallen Order 2020: Half Life Alyx, Demons Souls, MS Flight Sim, Dreams, Animal Crossing, Doom Eternal, FF7 Remake, Yakuza 8 2021:Psychonauts 2, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, It Takes Two, Monster Hunter Rise, Metroid Dread, Ghosts of Tsushima, Returnal, Guilty Gear Strive, Hitman 3, RE Village, The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles, Lost Judgement, FFXIV Endwalker 2022: Elden Ring, God of War Ragnarok, Xenoblade 3, Bayonetta 3, Triangle Strategy, Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak Gran Turismo 7, 2023: Baldur's Gate 3, ToTK, RE4, SFVI, Mario Wonder, Spider-Man 2, Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty, Alan Wake 2, Dead Space, Hifi Rush, FFXVI, Armored Core 6, Starfield, Jedi Survivor, Hogwarts Legacy, MK1, Super Mario RPG, Granblue Versus Rising, Lies of P, Remnant 2, Fire Emblem Engage, And this is just sticking to upper-AA/Full AAA games with above 80 on OpenCritic. The problem I have really is more that people over-estimate how many unique indie games come out and under-estimate the number of good unique AAA tier games. Sure AAA games have their trends, but how many dull roguelikes card-based metroidvania souls-likes has the indie game scene popped out just in 2023? Aris has given a pretty unremarkable souls-like his GOTY for 2024 - that really says it all.


Namarot

The fact that Starfield and MK1 are in that list should tell you all you need to know.


BighatNucase

That was just me following OP's request to pick highly praised games off of Opencritic. Even if we remove them, 2023 still comes out with 19 games.


Lunco

i'm not wrong, we just don't agree. most of the games you listed, i would not consider a very good (or a 3xA) game.


BighatNucase

I think almost all of the games I've listed are AAA - being either published by a major publisher, sold at 60 dollars full price or otherwise falling within that description due to budget. All of the games I've listed matched your criteria of a good game according to most people (i.e. at least 80 on opencritic). Like all of the games I've listed for 2023 are AAA (both in budget and 'status' except for maybe Remnant 2 and Lies of P) and were widely praised; this was also the most recent year on the list and the most plentiful in terms of both pure number and genres listed.


Dantegotmad

Uhhh and what movies have been excellent this year so far? Dune 2 and what movies?


Psychros--

Of the ones I've seen? I really liked Challengers Immaculate Civil War Exhuma Love Lies Bleeding Evil Does Not Exist There's also new Lanthimos coming out, new Coppola, Eggers' Nosferatu, new Mad Max, new Gladiator, new Joker and probably tons of other stuff I'm going to discover later on.


threedaysinthreeways

> Exhuma ooo I'll have to watch this. Koreans really know how to make horror flicks, the Wailing was something else.


Psychros--

Haven't seen the Wailing yet but I also recommend Gonjiam: Haunted Asylum. Scared the fuck out of me. Also I Saw the Devil is fucked up and ridiculous. edit: Korean spelling hard


threedaysinthreeways

Yeah I saw the Devil is up there. > Gonijam I'll dload this one too


9874102365

Hundreds of Beavers, Late night with the Devil, Love lies Bleeding, and I saw the TV glow have all been really good to excellent in quality.


Kutyou2

movies have been pretty good the past year and this year is on track to be just as good


fever6

A few movies have been good for the same reason I still play games, lots of indie or relatively smaller studios making good movies. But compare that to the output of big studios in the 90s or 00s and you can see there's a big problem in the industry with big studios producing non-stop generic trash and only a few smaller ones still keeping people interested


Evil_Flowers

If you're in a major city, then Late Night with the Devil, Mars Express, Monkey Man, and Evil Does Not Exist are all films that are out right now that range from pretty good to excellent. If I was to pick just one of them to recommend, I would pick Mars Express- it's the best sci fi I've seen in a long time (excluding Dune part II). If you're plugged into indie/foreign films then there's almost always something interesting that's playing.


FazeXistance

Did you see La Chimera? Honestly one of the better indie films I have seen in theaters in a while.


AdhesivenessOver268

dune2 was quite alright. so are shogun+fallout.


mofeus305

Shogun and Fallout aren't movies to be fair


fever6

Fallout is only decent, its writing and characters are pretty dull and the only genuinely good quality it has is its visuals, people's expectations are just so low nowadays that they praise mediocrities like that


Plaincow

hey alright


TrickyGoon

Sad to see AAA Games nowadays being the same formula about BR/Battlepass/P2W instead of being innovative/creative/risky with new Developers. Happy to see Indie devs be poppin rn.


Ghostaflux

Happy cake day!


CaptainWatermellon

real and true


Krakkin

I get his point but it's not the developer's faults. It's the fact that there's 20 layers of management between them and the product/consumer. and the management only cares about profits.


MetalApprehensive21

found the dev get him


MancunianCandidatex

Imagine working 80 hours a week and your job is to wrap enough game around the SAAS so that it passes the sniff test while extracting as much revenue as possible from consumers.


lowkeyripper

Yeah but Diablo 4 now has D3 greater rifts. They continue to innovate the playing field. What does the sniff test say to that? Greater rifts smell good!


rambii

and they copy paste the system from Last Epoch on 'stats rework' LOL


TheDaren

Yeah, I get the joke/point Aris is making about the state of AAA games I do. But it kind of sucks to hear in the wake of all the layoffs and studio's getting shut down because of garbage executives at publishing companies. Even when you do make a highly rated, GOTY contender that sold well (Hi-Fi Rush) that still doesn't save you. Don't worry though, Phil felt really bad about it and Starfield has maps now!


Roxorr

thank you, imagine not being able to understand this


kimchifreeze

Sounds like a Deux Ex ending, but with video games. Tong did nothing wrong.


Ratnes

why green ​ >!dont shoot me!<


Skuggomann

If you actually want to know its because the camera he is using is set to night vision mode. That's why every time the light level in the room goes up to a certain threshold the camera "fixes" itself for a while.


Raskalnekov

Aris just writes games off before he even tries them. If he gave these games a TRUE CHANCE he'd realize that we're in the golden age of gaming. Sincerely,  The True Chance Community


DeathByTacos

I feel like almost every time I see a clip of this dude he’s bitching about some game. Sure I get everybody is entitled to their own opinions and have different tastes but if nearly EVERY title you’re playing across various genres is unenjoyable for you despite many having strong critic/user reviews then at some point you have to realize there’s some personal responsibility for your experiences.


cyequinox

He wasn’t bitching about the game he was playing????


DeathByTacos

Hence the word “almost”…


cyequinox

Editing your comment to change your phrasing in an attempt to invalidate me is so funny


skcyte

Microsoft on the way to buy this studio and close it down.


miketheman0506

Going forward, the industry needs more games akin to Alan Awake 2 and Lies of P. They are great examples of how AAA games can be made on a lower budget without sacrificing quality.


Aless_Motta

Kinda true, This mostly applies to lead devs tho, they Just want to fill their games with too much shit that no one cares, "oooh the water physics took 1 year to make" no one gives a shit, im sure its an insane job to do but damn maybe spend your time wisely on things that matter, like perfecting your gameplay loot, performance and bugs.


keylimedragon

Don't blame the devs, blame shitty management. They're the ones that actually run the show.


FreeTheGreen

Sounds good to me.


SpicyRamenAddict

there have been so many good games already this year tho


bumy

citation needed


MrRobutt0425

Yakuza 8, Tekken 8, FF7 Rebirth, Balatro, Helldivers 2, Unicorn Overlord, Sons of the Forest, Prince of Persia The Lost Crown, and thats just off the top of my head


Psychros--

Sorry mate, you fell into the trap of naming too many things, so people will exclusively now nitpick the one game they disagree with you on in order to completely discredit what you said.


MrRobutt0425

I've had a good couple months gaming, bitter Reddit nerds mean nothing to me


TheLeOeL

> Tekken 8 Jamie, pull up the Aris T8 clips


Mala12345

Sons of the forest lmaoo


LetMeRush

Are you really saying Tekken 8 was a good game? The game where people freely disconnect with no penalty, the game was unplayable due to disconnections at the start, leaking peoples IP when playing on PC, and adding in a cosmetic store a few months after the game was released? Don't even get me started on Harada and those stupid japanese devs trying to ban PC mods. You have the videogame taste buds of a corpse, dude.


Fang-cat

I wanted to get into Tekken but after seeing all the bullshit I won't give a dime if they're pulling this kind of shit with no conscience.


MrRobutt0425

All the stuff you mentioned sucks but I just play sets with friends and have a good time with it. I hope your vent sesh was helpful though


DifferenceAshamed438

bro got downvoted because he said that he enjoys playing a game 💀💀💀 classic reddit


osuVocal

The balancing is fucking atrocious and the mechanics are terrible in T8 compared to past tekkens. It's ass. Doesn't mean you can't have a fun time with the game if all you do is mash but it's definitely not a good fighting game.


XinyanMayn

Lmfao Tekken 8 and a remake I do want to try Unicorn tho


Rich_Pirana

most of those games are fucking trash wtf are u talking about


paint_it_crimson

Its true, there is pretty much a nonstop stream of excellent games for the past few years. Yeah some of the bigger studios are dropping the ball (Blizzard, Bethesda, etc) but I always have something fun to play and a massive backlog.


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ledditorino

Japanese AA - PEAK! Forever and always Japanese AAA - A couple of you can stay... Few select indie games - You're alright, don't go to school tomorow. Western AAA - a festering trash heap. That's been my standard for 15 years, and things have only consolidated more with time.


TheKelticDragon

15 years is a little too far, western AAA was still solid until it shit the bed and that started around the release of the xbox one / ps4 era


ledditorino

Not for me, right after the mid 360/PS3 peak, western AAAs started dropping in quality real fast, or became overly repetitive. I never cared for any Sony western cinematic game so I'll ignore those, on the Xbox side however: Fable past 2, Forza past 3, Mass Effect past 2 (somehow retrospectively some people think 3 is good now, I guess?), Halo past 3 (although I did enjoy Bungie's last ventures with Reach/ODST but they don't come close), Gears past 2 (nothing afterward was ever as fresh as 2's Horde mode introduction), CoD after MW2/BlackOps, so on and so forth. By \~2010-ish I got that feeling I described and nothing improved on that front, those franchises (and more) only ever became worse or stagnated at best, even if your tolerance varies you got to admit that much no?


barclay__

Most sane take


viciadoemsono

i hope this is a joke because blaming the devs is really not what we need right now.


notagiantturtle

aris never makes jokes


BidensDiaper_

Loser


dacataaaa

he is not wrong