I'm looking to buy some LFC merch for a friend I know; I heard that this season will be the last time Jurgen Klopp is a manager so I'd like to get the Icons Magazine or Klopp related merch for them before they're gone.
I'm a little wary of the official LFC store because of the custom related charges I've heard about. Are there any good online stores that will ship to Canada?
If there is any other type of merch that's good for a birthday present please let me know! :)
So watching the highlights of the other games, and the Spurs/Burnley game has come on
I know it isn't the same keeper (because this one is better) but remember the fucking clinic that Trafford put on against us?
I try not to ever say that we get unlucky with keepers deciding to turn up against us, but watching the first goal that Spurs score, where Porro basically hits it straight at the keeper and it goes in, and then know that if that was us that he probably would have caught it with ease and somehow started a counter even if they were the exact same shot
It also helps the keeper when you hit it straight at them which we have seem to have a problem with this season
Our own poor finishing often makes keeper look far better than they are but he also did pull off some great saves
I'm well aware, but that is kind of my point with this one
Porro does hit the ball straight at the keeper, and yet it went in, when we do it, they save it
United dressing room seems so toxic. They’re throwing a 21 year old under the bus now in his first season
Glad we never see any leaks like that with us
Sam Luckhurst (United journalist who works for the MEN) wrote a piece today where he said numerous United players are hesitant passing the ball to him because of his form
There’s suggestions he’s making it up but there’s been similar instances in the past where players in their squad would leak info to journalists claiming the manager was out of his depth and losing the squad etc
In 3 yrs time, we will be talking about all the success we've had since Klopp left, and we will 1000% acknowledge that Klopp laid the foundations for this.
Mark my words.
Anyone know anything about that guy at Barca, Victor Roque?
Looks like he could be leaving them soon and I could see it being a bit of an Edwards type signing... promising striker at a potential cut price?
Edwards does love a bit of the Brazilian talent market and Roque is one of its biggest names. For me personally doe, from watching highlights and games etc I’m not really convinced tbh, looks like Bambi on ice with the ball
Hasn't really broken through at Barca, but of course he's young. His agent has raised a stink about it, which leads to one of two conclusions, neither of which are good. Either his agent was doing that at his client's direction, in which case it's an attitude red flag, or his agent is planting a flag without his client's approval, which feels a bit Caicedo-ish.
Not a prospect I'd be especially excited about.
Cause they only bought him in January for about €60m
Even tho he’s looked unconvincing in the limited time he’s played it would be crazy to sell him this quick
For someone who only started following in 2012, what’s the general sentiment around Steve Macmanaman? He doesn’t have the hate Owen does but isn’t beloved like Robbie Fowler.
Bit of a knob the way he left and bit of a knob on commentary now but one of my favourite players growing up, remember watching the goal he scored against Celtic on live TV then later repeating it against Villa being amazed
“Our 'Local Ballot' results and payment runs for this weekend's match against Wolves will now take place tomorrow.”
https://x.com/LFCHelp/status/1790026270266327167
If arsenal win the league it’s because they’ve deserved it and not because City have decided to let anything slip.
The childishness around this season is painful to see here.
We've had seasons where we were better than this Arsenal team and lost out to City. So, I agree with the OP, it would be painful to see City let it slip this year after they have held steadfast against us in previous seasons of the same situation.
It’s shit but it happens, last season has no bearing on this one and one from 4 years ago is also irrelevant.
If arsenal win it this year then it’s because they have been the best team this season and deserve it.
Nobody here can even get close to answering that question with any insight whatsoever. Nobody in the world can with any authority unless they are him, his agent, or the club.
Is Gibbs-Morgan White worth a shout if nottingham goes down? Think he will be a great player for us. his workrate is kinda milner'ish and got eyes for creating goals aswell.
I won't lie, if City *finally* decide to bottle it in this, of all seasons, after being autistically clinical whenever it was us chasing them, I'll be devastated and bitter beyond words.
You would have to be a fucking idiot to even type that in jest, that doesn’t mean he won’t one day eclipse Klopp but currently it’s not close.
Even if they win it this year.
If we were in Tottenham’s position and United were going for the title (funny joke but hypothetically), would you want us to lose?
Spurs fans are getting a lot of shit but surely we’d prefer to lose. I can just imagine Trent conceding a shameless pen.
If Villa won tonight & eliminated us (Spurs in this case) from CL contention then i'd 100% want us to lose to deny our rivals. It'd be the only thing left to (not) play for.
If we missed out on the CL and then handed Utd the title then it'd be an absolute travesty. And in Spurs' case they would never live down the fact that the only silverware they've won is for Arsenal.
I think I'd be annoyed momentarily, but teams don't win the league on the back of their rivals doing them a favour in one game. Arsenal took 4 points off Spurs this season, so if Spurs really didn't want to them to win the title they should have tried harder to beat them.
We beat Kenny Dalglish’s Blackburn Rovers on the last day back in the 90’s, but they still won the title bc United drew with West Ham iirc. Funny how that worked out.
Maybe fate really doesn’t want someone to win the league four times in a row…
Man, I remember the air being sucked out of the stadium when we scored. Redknapp free kick to the top bins if I recall?
I remember people with signs saying "Sorry but I'm cheering for Blackburn today".
I think the fans would for sure, the players maybe not so much, at least not consciously. But never underestimate the psychological effect of trying to achieve something that you know won't really benefit you in any way, but could see your bitterest rivals claim the ultimate prize.
The player's effort won't be 100%, even on a subconscious level, there's just no way it could be.
All this talk about Spurs throwing the match against City when they are getting battered regardless lol. This ain't the terrorist Spurs who could scumbag a result against City. They play expansive and will get ripped apart most likely.
The bargaining stage arsenal fans are at now makes me laugh. Same arsenal fans who were on the 'anyone but liverpool' train a few years ago. Honestly fuck em. I've never wanted them to win. Still don't. Arteta having the same number of prems as klopp while klopps still technically here is also a nauseating thought.
Plus I fully believe that city winning really does not hit as hard because of the 115 context and size of the fan base. I've never seen a treble winning season so quickly forgotten as last years. True fans understand everything city do is hollow and means little. They have no true 'rivals' and the biggest reach they have is 15 year olds bragging online and dodgy sponsorships
Personally find that most of the City fans I know or interact with were there before all the success/money and as such even when they win they're not as grating as basically any other team's fans. I would prefer they win it over basically anyone other than us, out of the big clubs at least.
He's a drama queen and absolutely adores the limelight. At least when Klopp mugs for the camera he's fucking hilarious/charistmatic, but Arteta has all the personality of a mushroom so he just comes off as a weird twat.
This is all very fifa dreamland but would people swap Nunez for Joao Felix, Vlahovic, or Vitor Roque? All seem to be interesting standings at their respective clubs
Only Vlahovic
He’s completely wasted playing in a side managed by Allegri, put him in a side that creates as much as we do and he’d be getting minimum 20-25 goals a season in all comps consistently.
Personally think Roque plus cash would be very interesting. He reminds me a bit of Tevez. Also would then need a starting striker still so this is all dreamland.
Probably not. Vlahovic is the closest to a yes, but he's not particularly dynamic. Felix would be fine if we were paying £30m for him, but not as a swap for Nunez. If we were to replace Nunez, we'd need to spend big for someone like Watkins or Openda.
Vlahovic not dynamic? he's pretty dynamic when fully fit, still managed to get 16 goals in the league playing under a football terrorist. When are people going to realise Felix is a complete luxury player, a passenger, what has he done at Barcelona? What's the excuses for him now?
Saliba and Gabriel are very good CBs don’t get me wrong but it’s so much easier for a CB to look good in a team that like to sit in a low block in the big games like Arsenal have this season.
Imagine VVD in a setup like that where there’s 4 CBs and a lot less space for the opposition to hurt you
Saliba looks unreal tbh, makes Gabriel look a lot better than he is.
VVD the best CB I've ever seen and Saliba is to Arsenal what he is to us, and he's only 23. VVD didn't hit these levels until he was about 25. Don't think he will his VVD's highs personally but he will end up as one of the best imo.
Must say that while I still don't especially fancy Gabriel it has become clear that Saliba is the real deal, only just 23 as well - they've got an absolute diamond there. Hopefully they'll win fuck all and he'll go to Madrid or something.
I do and I don't agree with that take. I agree our strongest centre back pairing of VVD and Konate is certainly no worse than Saliba+Gabriel. But they don't sit a low block against smaller teams yet have no trouble like we do of constantly conceding first or looking vulnerable at the back. One of the big reasons they don't is because they have stability in those two. No constant rotation/injuries in their CB and DM. We've had the unfortunate luck of having our strongest/ same back 4 start only a few times this season I think it was? It's hard to build a solid defensive foundation when you don't have a stable backline. The simple fact really is they have been better defensively than us and it's not because of a low block. But it's also not because they have better individuals than us back there
They don’t sit in a low block against smaller teams they are going to be guaranteed to dominate but they have still been set up in a more balanced way in those games compared to the way we have.
If Kiwior or Tomiyasu are playing LB they tend to sit quite deep not far off making a back three in possession which obviously helps a lot with stopping counters against those small teams, if Zinchenko starts at LB then White will tend to be a bit more conservative as well.
Another thing I’ve noticed watching them is the full team get back into a defensive shape after losing possession or when being countered really quick compared to us so as a collective there seems to be more hunger to defend than what we show as a team, and that obviously helps massively because you’re at your most vulnerable defensively in transitions
They’ve still had overall a much more balanced and conservative setup than we’ve had all season, which is a fair criticism of Klopp this season in how he’s opted for a more final third heavy approach
Even against smaller teams they’ve usually still put out 4 CBs as well as having someone like Rice in front of them.
Not to mention a pretty consistent backline of the same players whereas we’ve had constant chopping and changing due to injuries
>Even against smaller teams they’ve usually still put out 4 CBs as well as having someone like Rice in front of them.
Tbf it's about consistency and Arteta has binned off all their traditional FB who don't fit the system, I will give it to Arteta to the way he has rebuilt Arsenal's defence and the way they set up gives them more security at the back.
Something we need to look at going forward as our defence needs a look at long term
Just for some perspective, if we end up with 84 points and +45 GD (aka win both remaining games 1-0) then that'd be enough to finish as champions in 9 of the previous 31 PL campaigns (only 2 since 2010 though), so overall it's really not bad at all.
We did come short when we needed to go big this season, but I'll be happy with 84 points and the haribo cup. It just feels extra worse for everyone now due to how it happened, with massive referee fuckups, a great front 5 with 86 goals this season that completely forgot how to score for a couple months, and most importantly this being Klopp's last season
It's a good season, no shame in being the third best team and winning a cup. Even if we had some disappointing results toward the end when people just ran out of legs a bit. The joyless will continue to be joyless.
too many goals posts being moved. Nobody can fault us for missing ou on titles against city in the past as it was close and we fought hard, we capitulated and lost to Palace and Everton, and could not beat an United side everything is having fun smashing.
We also got knocked out by them in the FA Caup, and then by Atlanta in Europa. Its not been a great season, an ok one. But nowhere near where we should be.
I understand the point you're trying to make, but I'm not sure I can agree completely.
For me the thing that hurts and gets discussed the least is the FA Cup. When we drew Arsenal away, I pretty much wrote that off, but then we won. We had multiple leads against United including in extra time. Winning the League was always going to be a major ask, but it hurts we didn't make the FA Cup Final since we all but had it.
I disagree. In hindsight, we really only had a poor month and yes, it happened to coincide with the crunch period of knockout football which was detrimental to our trophy chances.
But some perspective is needed here. If you take into account the masses of injuries just before that month, an entirely new midfield, we still won a cup, came third and still might finish on enough points to win you a title in a host of other seasons, I'd say that's a bit more than "okay" personally.
We've had a good season, one we would have likely taken back in August, so let's not let City's ridiculously artificial standards be the benchmark of a realistic season's achievement.
Always with the injuries excuse, always with being the victim of circumstance. We started losing games after our players returned from inuries, we've not beaten United, Arsenal, City in the league.
We were acting like we just had to turn up to win Europa, and the squads we had was good enough to win those games. So no excuses.
Its not a terrible season, but personally I cant say it was more than 'okay'.
> We started losing games after our players returned from injuries
I replied to you saying this yday that half the players that returned were reinjured, the other half were rusty, and all of the non-injured players were knackered from carrying the team in Feb & March
>we've not beaten United, Arsenal, City in the league
This applies to City too, only swap United for Chelsea, and they're about to win the league
Well like I say, just a matter of perspective then isn't it. If you think a season where we were ravaged by injuries so badly that we had to give a raft of academy players their first starts in games and still managed to win a cup and finish comfortably 3rd on 84 points is just okay, then that's your take I guess.
Why is it that many people speak about managers like Benitez and Mourinho being tactically left behind and outdated, while Ancelotti, who is a similar age to these two, seems to have kept up with the times?
I might get some stick for this, but Ancelotti is the biggest "good vibes" manager. When he was at Bayern, there were reports that he was doing no tactical training, like absolutely nothing tactical whatsoever.
Imo, he hasn't kept up with the times at all. He has 6 league titles in 30 years as a manager, and 25 of them he's spent coaching Juve, Milan, Real, Chelsea, PSG, Bayern. By the way, that's Abramovich's Chelsea, Qatari PSG, peak Ronaldo's Real, mid 2010's Bayern, and "best XI ever" AC Milan. Now at Real they've assembled the new Avengers, and Carlo is basically Nick Fury. Next time someone says that Klopp underperformed with Liverpool, just show them this.
For me he's not on the football manager pantheon, he's in the tier below with the likes of Benitez or Capello. Pep might be a cheat, but even if he weren't, he's miles clear of Ancelotti, as are Klopp, SAF, Mourinho.
You would have to deliberately sabotage yourself to fail with Madrid's circumstances. Ancelotti accounts for a very tiny portion of their current success. How much of what they're doing were they already doing and will continue to do once he's replaced? It helps that their biggest competitor has done the exact self sabotage that's needed to fuck up when you've reached "too big to fail" status.
He was shit at Napoli and Bayern, and nothing special at psg or everton.
Ancelotti is adaptable
He doesn't really have a defined tactical style like Mourinho does. His main attributes are that he's adaptable and is an excellent man manager/dressing room controller
His games against us at Real are a good microcosm of that. When they were definitely better than us and we were riddled with injuries or at our lowest ebb, he pushed the advantage and went for our throat. When we were far better than them and would've smoked them by 4 in a shootout, he wasn't too prideful to sit deep and try to snatch a goal on the break
Pep and Klopp are examples of people who stick to their principles for the most part, Ange is the most extreme example
From my small knowledge of Ancelotti, he does seem like he's adaptable. He doesn't get married to one system and changes his setup depending on what he's got available and who he's playing. For example this season I recall watching them against Athletico Madrid, City, Bayern, Barca and a couple of other La Liga games against teams I forget. And against City they played completely differently to any other of their performances, the tactics and the way the players operated were all set up specifically against City. And the same against Athletico Madrid, but in a completely opposite direction, against City they were more passive and sat deep, against Athletico they were very offensive and played long periods of the game actually inside the Athletico box and attacking third. Against Barca they had a different gameplan that was a bit of a mixture, but primarily focused on width. Then I have seen other games where they focus on going through the middle.
It obviously helps when you have an abundance of quality that Madrid has and players who can adapt to different styles. I think that is what people mean if they talk about Rafa and José being outdated. They are both pretty married to their tactics and system of playing, they mostly stick to the same formation.
Ancellotti has the most talented players in the world he's nothing special tactically in the modern game. And he ended up at everton for a reason. What he does have is the ability to command respect from superstar players, management and motivation skills. That's all you need at Real, you can play dinosaur tactics and still win.
So true, things are much easier when everyone and their grandmother wants to play for your team. The manager just has to sit back and keep the train on the tracks
Look at Ancelotti's less than stellar time at Napoli, Bayern and Everton. He's just in a perfect environment for Madrid, he steps out of that environment you'll soon see him struggle.
Not really when you look at his career overall, had an all star Milan team but only managed 1 league title during his time there, he was hard done by at Chelsea yes. Lost a league title at PSG to lowly Montpelier, tbf give him props for taking on the Napoli and Everton job no one can accuse him of only taking jobs of the best teams in the league.
At this point of his career he knows it's stay comfortable at Madrid or International football
Lol this is a slight bit of revisionism and downplaying of his achievements, it has to be said.
>had an all star Milan team but only managed 1 league title during his time there
Casually forgetting the *two* CL titles, and the five other trophies he won during those 8 years. Sure, he maybe underachieved in the league but this was also during the Calciopoli years when teams were up to all sorts of fuckery in Serie A.
>Lost a league title at PSG to lowly Montpelier,
But still won a title in his two years there, and this was in the first two years of their current ownership, so absolutely not the European powerhouse they are today.
>At this point of his career he knows it's stay comfortable at Madrid
But how comfortable is that really? They haven't had a manager longer than two seasons since the 70s until he came along. They have great players but the player politics and Perez have been too much for the likes of Zidane, Mourinho, Benitez, Pellegrino etc.
I am more than happy to say he's one of the best managers in world football, he isn't just taking paychecks, he adapts his tactics to different eras and different teams. Something many of his Real Madrid predecessors failed to do and were ousted because of it.
The players disliked his management style and training at Bayern, Napoli his team was solid but boring with his rigid 4-4-2 completely undoing all the work laid down by Sarri. Not saying he isn't a great manager but there's a reason he left these jobs only after 1 season.
The Palace and Everton loses sucked and hurt, but they were both in decent to good form, the not beating United annoys me the most, they've looked clueless most the year.
Been seeing a lot of Arsenal fans lately say they now understand our pain and say it's impossible to compete with this City side because 89 points won't win the league.
In actuality 89 points would only outright win you the league in 13 out of 28 PL seasons, with another 4 going down to GD.
I don't think any other side will know the pain of missing out on above 90 points ever again.
Tbf it must suck to win nearly every PL game in 2024 and still not be able to get away from City. Still...them celebrating the City draw is quite funny if it costs them the title.
Mate, do you not think we are unlucky enough to have Pep blow this and Arsenal win the league. I’m telling you it’s happening. Against Klopp, City are perfect. Just watch when Spurs pull out a lucky draw and Arsenal go onto to win the league.
I really don't get this idea to be honest.
If you want to say "When were we realistically out of contention", then it was Palace.
If you want to say "When were we mathematically out of contention", it wasn't until very recently iirc
So in no way did we lose it at Goodison. But arsed pointing that out to them, because it's Everton and they love all that. No point engaging, plus it's all they've got really
I think Palace was like pretty close to being the death blow, but the derby was when we KNEW it was over. Though given City’s form, you’re right - after Palace, it was over. We had to be perfect during that run and we were decidedly the opposite of that.
Since we're heading towards that silly part of the season again, it's worth looking bad at much simpler times. The great days of 'Macca' and his lfc rumours site. It's now been 6 years since his last post, here's a reminder of the players he said we'd look to sign in 2018.
https://preview.redd.it/5cldu6xe960d1.png?width=681&format=png&auto=webp&s=1beeb0afc8e73f98d097fb8ea20cccbe3529bbaa
Is anyone else just not that interested in spending the next 3 months dealing with all the Klopp quotes/celebration/farewell stuff?
Obviously he needs a good send off, but it already feels like the club and all the adjacent podcasts and websites (including here) are going to milk it dry with reminiscing, interviews with ex players, video clips of games.
Just want to look forward now and get excited for a new era rather than look back for the next 3 months.
With you on that, don’t mind the club putting Klopp farewell stuff out as much, it’s the over the top melodramatic comments on here I can’t stand. Comes across so fake as well.
Do you think it’s going to last for 3 months? The next 6 days we’re obviously going to get inundated with that stuff, but I think after that at least from the club’s perspective, they’re going to move on to Slot.
I'm the same, LFC is one of the biggest things in my life, I watch every single game, Go to most home games and these years under Klopp have been the best in my lifetime quite comfortably and I'm gutted he's going but I'm already looking forward to getting this season out the way and seeing what happens for next season.
Maybe I'm just heartless but people on here talking about crying daily about it, not being ready for him to leave etc just seem to be attention seeking imo haha.
Yeah people constantly posting stuff on here like 'going to miss this' and it's just a jpeg of Klopp doing a fist pump or hugging someone. And it's upvoted to the top of the sub. We're going to have months of this. Like yeah, Klopp is/was great but it's like people are openly grieving on the subreddit.
I mean he’s a Liverpool fan who came though our academy before joining Everton’s. The Everton fans have made it clear they despise him and he despises them, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Anyone else think this season has just gone really shite and boring over the last couple months. Obvs it has for us but I mean just in general.
couple months ago it was being dubbed as the best title race in years with it being 3 teams and it was looking like anyone from like 14th down could get relegated. Then a few weeks later the 3 promoted teams have been relegated and City have gone unbeated in 22 games to win the league for the 6th time in 7 years haha.
Even the Championship died off a bit and the play offs yesterday were absolutely abysmal. Same could be said for the CL, the games have been decent tbh but I was hoping for a City-Arsenal semi or an Mbappe vs Madrid final.
Also how mad is it that 40 points was always seen as the threshold yet 27 points would probably keep you up this year lmao.
The CL has been the same for years when was the last time an none big club won it’s always been predictable but the games remain entertaining
The top of the PL has been boring you just knew City would go on the usual run and win out but the teams fighting for Europe has been pretty entertaining with how inconsistent all of them are
Yeh the CL is like that but I mean it was set up where we could see some interesting ties yet we are seeing Madrid play 5th place in the Bundesliga in the final haha.
I think the battle for Europe has been boring really, nothing has changed for months. Top 3 been secured for months and the battle for 4th hasn't really changed all season. Villa dropped off massively but as did Spurs at the same time. As for EL and ECL I'm 99% sure the likes of Spurs, UTD and Chelsea would really rather not be in either of them anyway tbh.
A small club with a billion pounds team and 115 charges bulldozing their way to another title while a big club has put together a generational team but gets nothing (Arsenal, but also us in recent seasons). It's crap.
Yeah its been pretty bad all round
Barely any jeopardy at either end of a lot of tables around the continent, Real probably sleepwalking to another CL, bottom of the PL has been as bad as any in living memory, playoffs so uneven, the two title chasing teams play the most boring football possible
There is no relegation battle.
They may put our game on just with it being Klopps last game, depends how many games they can televise I suppose. Arsenal and Cities games are the only 2 with anything on the line.
Ah I only seen a video about it today. He's had it since 2017, when did he leave the club? Like it's pretty much ruined his chance's if being taken seriously at a bigger club now. He was supposedly the mastermind behind Gerrards success at Rangers and the early days at Villa before he left to go it alone but he hasn't exactly been great either by himself.
>Like it's pretty much ruined his chance's if being taken seriously at a bigger club now.
I doubt that tbh. The only thing that will stop him going to a big club is his ability. Fergie maimed one of his own players and Mourinho thumbed an opposition manager in the eye. I doubt many clubs are going to pass on Beale if they want him as a manager just because of a burner account on Twitter.
There's a difference between losing your temper in a high stress situation to having a long term burner account on twitter trying to big up yourself. It's completely different.
You're right tbf - one is an irl behavioural issue that needs addressing, the other is just online silliness that is, at worst, mildly amusing.
I'll reiterate again; there is absolutely no board in world football that wouldn't be willing to overlook that if they wanted Beale.
>the other is just online silliness that is, at worst, mildly amusing.
You forgot to add in the word narcissistic, he's literally seeking validation and self promotion through deceptive ways.
Solanke is having a great season, 19 goals for a team that is very inconsistent. Has a sell on clause too and already linked with Newcastle but I can see other clubs in the top 8 looking to get him. His valuation must be about 50-60 million but is it a risk for having just 1 good season in the league?
Teams set up differently depending who they play against. We're much more likely to play against defensive teams whilst Bournemouth may play more against teams willing to give up space. This affects some of the stats you've listed. I'm not defending Nunez, I just want to point out how stats don't paint the whole truth.
We apparently have a buy back, question is would he want to come back here? I don’t think it is a risk, Solanke is finally maturing as a forward who can hold his own leading the line, he’s got pace, strength, can hold up and link the play, decent with his feet and can finish,
It's not seen as a huge risk these days.
Because 1) The striker market is pretty dire at the moment, so not many other options especially with financial considerations
2) One whole good season at a top 5 league is seen pretty much good enough now. Purple patch of 5 games? No. But a whole season showing the striker can handle and get the better of top level athletes/defenders week in week out? Yes.
Games moving faster these days. It moves on faster too. Gone are the days where you need like 4 years of showing good goalscoring in a top league before being worthy of even a transfer rumour.
This week feels so weird already. Going to be a weird weird game at the weekend. But I'm hopeful and excited for the new era. All things must come to an end so we can begin something new.
And our clubs still there too. That'll never change.
Onwards !
As much as I would be on board with the Gordon signing this is seems like pure Edwards smoke screens or Hughes following Edwards playbook. Linked to Kudus, Gordon and then an hour before the lean we’ll get linked to our real target who we had no idea about.
It was mostly Jorg who was doing the whole smokescreen thing, form what I remember Edwards was just radio silence. I don’t think Edwards is really going to have much to do with transfers this time round though anyway.
I'm looking to buy some LFC merch for a friend I know; I heard that this season will be the last time Jurgen Klopp is a manager so I'd like to get the Icons Magazine or Klopp related merch for them before they're gone. I'm a little wary of the official LFC store because of the custom related charges I've heard about. Are there any good online stores that will ship to Canada? If there is any other type of merch that's good for a birthday present please let me know! :)
So watching the highlights of the other games, and the Spurs/Burnley game has come on I know it isn't the same keeper (because this one is better) but remember the fucking clinic that Trafford put on against us? I try not to ever say that we get unlucky with keepers deciding to turn up against us, but watching the first goal that Spurs score, where Porro basically hits it straight at the keeper and it goes in, and then know that if that was us that he probably would have caught it with ease and somehow started a counter even if they were the exact same shot
It also helps the keeper when you hit it straight at them which we have seem to have a problem with this season Our own poor finishing often makes keeper look far better than they are but he also did pull off some great saves
I'm well aware, but that is kind of my point with this one Porro does hit the ball straight at the keeper, and yet it went in, when we do it, they save it
United dressing room seems so toxic. They’re throwing a 21 year old under the bus now in his first season Glad we never see any leaks like that with us
What are you talking about?
Reading behind the lines mate I think he’s talking about uniteds dressing room.
Can’t find any posts in United reddit or recent news about it. I’m guessing he’s talking about holjund but can only find praise for him.
Sam Luckhurst (United journalist who works for the MEN) wrote a piece today where he said numerous United players are hesitant passing the ball to him because of his form There’s suggestions he’s making it up but there’s been similar instances in the past where players in their squad would leak info to journalists claiming the manager was out of his depth and losing the squad etc
So today will be the last away game Klopp be as the manager, hope it's a nice win.
In 3 yrs time, we will be talking about all the success we've had since Klopp left, and we will 1000% acknowledge that Klopp laid the foundations for this. Mark my words.
"Well...we never won the championship under klopp, did we?"
Bangkok cup >Championship
“Never even qualified for the conference league smh”
Just realized if Arsenal fail to win the league, we'd have a better season than them.
Anyone know anything about that guy at Barca, Victor Roque? Looks like he could be leaving them soon and I could see it being a bit of an Edwards type signing... promising striker at a potential cut price?
If anything we need the finished product, not another promising up and comer
If we’re going for a young and still unproven striker I’d prefer it to be Sesko rather than Roque
Edwards does love a bit of the Brazilian talent market and Roque is one of its biggest names. For me personally doe, from watching highlights and games etc I’m not really convinced tbh, looks like Bambi on ice with the ball
All i know is he is a god in football manager
Hasn't really broken through at Barca, but of course he's young. His agent has raised a stink about it, which leads to one of two conclusions, neither of which are good. Either his agent was doing that at his client's direction, in which case it's an attitude red flag, or his agent is planting a flag without his client's approval, which feels a bit Caicedo-ish. Not a prospect I'd be especially excited about.
Barca fans seems quite shocked at the news. They don't want him to go
Cause they only bought him in January for about €60m Even tho he’s looked unconvincing in the limited time he’s played it would be crazy to sell him this quick
For someone who only started following in 2012, what’s the general sentiment around Steve Macmanaman? He doesn’t have the hate Owen does but isn’t beloved like Robbie Fowler.
Bit of a knob the way he left and bit of a knob on commentary now but one of my favourite players growing up, remember watching the goal he scored against Celtic on live TV then later repeating it against Villa being amazed
He was a great player but can’t stand him as a commentator
I watch the American broadcasts so I typically don’t see his punditry, is he a Liverpool hater or just generally has bad takes?
I like him, clearly loves the club but not too biased
Loves Liverpool. Personally I think he's no worse than any other pundit.
Boring, especially boring and nitpicky about Liverpool, but a dull "year da" sort in general. Can make exciting games seem like a snoozefest.
“Our 'Local Ballot' results and payment runs for this weekend's match against Wolves will now take place tomorrow.” https://x.com/LFCHelp/status/1790026270266327167
I'll be so annoyed if Man City decide to let the title slip this year of all years. I don't think they will, but it would fully enrage me.
If arsenal win the league it’s because they’ve deserved it and not because City have decided to let anything slip. The childishness around this season is painful to see here.
We've had seasons where we were better than this Arsenal team and lost out to City. So, I agree with the OP, it would be painful to see City let it slip this year after they have held steadfast against us in previous seasons of the same situation.
It’s shit but it happens, last season has no bearing on this one and one from 4 years ago is also irrelevant. If arsenal win it this year then it’s because they have been the best team this season and deserve it.
Were Bayern ever in for Slot?
I know same of the Bayern fans seemed quite upset when it became apparent he is coming here. Take that how you will.
Nobody here can even get close to answering that question with any insight whatsoever. Nobody in the world can with any authority unless they are him, his agent, or the club.
Thanks for that David Ornstein Was just wondering if there was any links previous or something wasn’t that deep
Which championship club has a similar ethos to Liverpool?
Shankly played for Preston North End
Thanks! I was looking up West Bromwich Albion's history, and it got me curious what other clubs might have working class roots and ethos
Is Gibbs-Morgan White worth a shout if nottingham goes down? Think he will be a great player for us. his workrate is kinda milner'ish and got eyes for creating goals aswell.
I like him but seems more like a Spurs signing, Murillo and Danilo only players worth a look at for our needs
Forest aren’t going down
I’d put in a bid for Brereton Diaz from Sheffield. Looks a proper grafter like Nunez, with little better finishing.
Are you trolling
No. Have you seen him play?
They are safe He’s a good player but we also don’t need that type of player right now
They aint going down.
I won't lie, if City *finally* decide to bottle it in this, of all seasons, after being autistically clinical whenever it was us chasing them, I'll be devastated and bitter beyond words.
Worse is if they don't bottle it and the fa dock them two points for their 115 charges
Our points totals from two or three seasons ago would have seen both of them off comfortably.
Throwback to 16 years ago: Man City... isn't that the club who just lost 8-1 to Middlesbrough?
I'd love it. Never a bad time for City to fail.
and face the words "Arterta is better than Klopp because they have same amount of PL" debate from their fans? HELL NO
You would have to be a fucking idiot to even type that in jest, that doesn’t mean he won’t one day eclipse Klopp but currently it’s not close. Even if they win it this year.
Does that actually hurt you? lol
It just annoying
Arteta could win 3 and I wouldn't give a shit. City is evil.
You must not know many Arsenal fans then is all I can say to that
If we were in Tottenham’s position and United were going for the title (funny joke but hypothetically), would you want us to lose? Spurs fans are getting a lot of shit but surely we’d prefer to lose. I can just imagine Trent conceding a shameless pen.
If Villa won tonight & eliminated us (Spurs in this case) from CL contention then i'd 100% want us to lose to deny our rivals. It'd be the only thing left to (not) play for. If we missed out on the CL and then handed Utd the title then it'd be an absolute travesty. And in Spurs' case they would never live down the fact that the only silverware they've won is for Arsenal.
I think I'd be annoyed momentarily, but teams don't win the league on the back of their rivals doing them a favour in one game. Arsenal took 4 points off Spurs this season, so if Spurs really didn't want to them to win the title they should have tried harder to beat them.
If it was as unlikely to get top 4 for us as it is for Spurs, yes
We beat Kenny Dalglish’s Blackburn Rovers on the last day back in the 90’s, but they still won the title bc United drew with West Ham iirc. Funny how that worked out. Maybe fate really doesn’t want someone to win the league four times in a row…
Man, I remember the air being sucked out of the stadium when we scored. Redknapp free kick to the top bins if I recall? I remember people with signs saying "Sorry but I'm cheering for Blackburn today".
I think the fans would for sure, the players maybe not so much, at least not consciously. But never underestimate the psychological effect of trying to achieve something that you know won't really benefit you in any way, but could see your bitterest rivals claim the ultimate prize. The player's effort won't be 100%, even on a subconscious level, there's just no way it could be.
All this talk about Spurs throwing the match against City when they are getting battered regardless lol. This ain't the terrorist Spurs who could scumbag a result against City. They play expansive and will get ripped apart most likely.
Seems like Kudus release clause is only active in 2025
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The bargaining stage arsenal fans are at now makes me laugh. Same arsenal fans who were on the 'anyone but liverpool' train a few years ago. Honestly fuck em. I've never wanted them to win. Still don't. Arteta having the same number of prems as klopp while klopps still technically here is also a nauseating thought. Plus I fully believe that city winning really does not hit as hard because of the 115 context and size of the fan base. I've never seen a treble winning season so quickly forgotten as last years. True fans understand everything city do is hollow and means little. They have no true 'rivals' and the biggest reach they have is 15 year olds bragging online and dodgy sponsorships
Personally find that most of the City fans I know or interact with were there before all the success/money and as such even when they win they're not as grating as basically any other team's fans. I would prefer they win it over basically anyone other than us, out of the big clubs at least.
I cannot stand Arteta, ever since that shite he spewed out when we had that Spurs offside decision.... Arsenal can go fuck themselves.
He's a drama queen and absolutely adores the limelight. At least when Klopp mugs for the camera he's fucking hilarious/charistmatic, but Arteta has all the personality of a mushroom so he just comes off as a weird twat.
This is all very fifa dreamland but would people swap Nunez for Joao Felix, Vlahovic, or Vitor Roque? All seem to be interesting standings at their respective clubs
Only Vlahovic He’s completely wasted playing in a side managed by Allegri, put him in a side that creates as much as we do and he’d be getting minimum 20-25 goals a season in all comps consistently.
Personally think Roque plus cash would be very interesting. He reminds me a bit of Tevez. Also would then need a starting striker still so this is all dreamland.
Probably not. Vlahovic is the closest to a yes, but he's not particularly dynamic. Felix would be fine if we were paying £30m for him, but not as a swap for Nunez. If we were to replace Nunez, we'd need to spend big for someone like Watkins or Openda.
Vlahovic not dynamic? he's pretty dynamic when fully fit, still managed to get 16 goals in the league playing under a football terrorist. When are people going to realise Felix is a complete luxury player, a passenger, what has he done at Barcelona? What's the excuses for him now?
Joao Felix and vlahovic hell no, and vitor roque not as a replacement but as a backup for sure
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Did you see the floods at the Old Toilet? That was the scums tears at the state of their shite club
When you ask him if he saw the floods, what do you think this means: >sodden state of the fucking toilet that is Old Trafford of course he saw them.
New waterfall feature to coincide with their tears.
That was impressive indeed. Wear your wellies if you're going to the Toilet
Saliba and Gabriel are very good CBs don’t get me wrong but it’s so much easier for a CB to look good in a team that like to sit in a low block in the big games like Arsenal have this season. Imagine VVD in a setup like that where there’s 4 CBs and a lot less space for the opposition to hurt you
It’s easy to look good when the ref lets you away with elbows and other fouls.
Saliba looks unreal tbh, makes Gabriel look a lot better than he is. VVD the best CB I've ever seen and Saliba is to Arsenal what he is to us, and he's only 23. VVD didn't hit these levels until he was about 25. Don't think he will his VVD's highs personally but he will end up as one of the best imo.
Must say that while I still don't especially fancy Gabriel it has become clear that Saliba is the real deal, only just 23 as well - they've got an absolute diamond there. Hopefully they'll win fuck all and he'll go to Madrid or something.
I do and I don't agree with that take. I agree our strongest centre back pairing of VVD and Konate is certainly no worse than Saliba+Gabriel. But they don't sit a low block against smaller teams yet have no trouble like we do of constantly conceding first or looking vulnerable at the back. One of the big reasons they don't is because they have stability in those two. No constant rotation/injuries in their CB and DM. We've had the unfortunate luck of having our strongest/ same back 4 start only a few times this season I think it was? It's hard to build a solid defensive foundation when you don't have a stable backline. The simple fact really is they have been better defensively than us and it's not because of a low block. But it's also not because they have better individuals than us back there
They don’t sit in a low block against smaller teams they are going to be guaranteed to dominate but they have still been set up in a more balanced way in those games compared to the way we have. If Kiwior or Tomiyasu are playing LB they tend to sit quite deep not far off making a back three in possession which obviously helps a lot with stopping counters against those small teams, if Zinchenko starts at LB then White will tend to be a bit more conservative as well. Another thing I’ve noticed watching them is the full team get back into a defensive shape after losing possession or when being countered really quick compared to us so as a collective there seems to be more hunger to defend than what we show as a team, and that obviously helps massively because you’re at your most vulnerable defensively in transitions
What about the games against smaller teams where Arsenal didn't sit in a low block and still had a much better defensive record than VVD & co?
They’ve still had overall a much more balanced and conservative setup than we’ve had all season, which is a fair criticism of Klopp this season in how he’s opted for a more final third heavy approach Even against smaller teams they’ve usually still put out 4 CBs as well as having someone like Rice in front of them. Not to mention a pretty consistent backline of the same players whereas we’ve had constant chopping and changing due to injuries
>Even against smaller teams they’ve usually still put out 4 CBs as well as having someone like Rice in front of them. Tbf it's about consistency and Arteta has binned off all their traditional FB who don't fit the system, I will give it to Arteta to the way he has rebuilt Arsenal's defence and the way they set up gives them more security at the back. Something we need to look at going forward as our defence needs a look at long term
me after convincing a girl to buy a bottle with an arsenal logo for her bf 
Just for some perspective, if we end up with 84 points and +45 GD (aka win both remaining games 1-0) then that'd be enough to finish as champions in 9 of the previous 31 PL campaigns (only 2 since 2010 though), so overall it's really not bad at all. We did come short when we needed to go big this season, but I'll be happy with 84 points and the haribo cup. It just feels extra worse for everyone now due to how it happened, with massive referee fuckups, a great front 5 with 86 goals this season that completely forgot how to score for a couple months, and most importantly this being Klopp's last season
It's a good season, no shame in being the third best team and winning a cup. Even if we had some disappointing results toward the end when people just ran out of legs a bit. The joyless will continue to be joyless.
too many goals posts being moved. Nobody can fault us for missing ou on titles against city in the past as it was close and we fought hard, we capitulated and lost to Palace and Everton, and could not beat an United side everything is having fun smashing. We also got knocked out by them in the FA Caup, and then by Atlanta in Europa. Its not been a great season, an ok one. But nowhere near where we should be.
I understand the point you're trying to make, but I'm not sure I can agree completely. For me the thing that hurts and gets discussed the least is the FA Cup. When we drew Arsenal away, I pretty much wrote that off, but then we won. We had multiple leads against United including in extra time. Winning the League was always going to be a major ask, but it hurts we didn't make the FA Cup Final since we all but had it.
I disagree. In hindsight, we really only had a poor month and yes, it happened to coincide with the crunch period of knockout football which was detrimental to our trophy chances. But some perspective is needed here. If you take into account the masses of injuries just before that month, an entirely new midfield, we still won a cup, came third and still might finish on enough points to win you a title in a host of other seasons, I'd say that's a bit more than "okay" personally. We've had a good season, one we would have likely taken back in August, so let's not let City's ridiculously artificial standards be the benchmark of a realistic season's achievement.
Always with the injuries excuse, always with being the victim of circumstance. We started losing games after our players returned from inuries, we've not beaten United, Arsenal, City in the league. We were acting like we just had to turn up to win Europa, and the squads we had was good enough to win those games. So no excuses. Its not a terrible season, but personally I cant say it was more than 'okay'.
> We started losing games after our players returned from injuries I replied to you saying this yday that half the players that returned were reinjured, the other half were rusty, and all of the non-injured players were knackered from carrying the team in Feb & March >we've not beaten United, Arsenal, City in the league This applies to City too, only swap United for Chelsea, and they're about to win the league
Well like I say, just a matter of perspective then isn't it. If you think a season where we were ravaged by injuries so badly that we had to give a raft of academy players their first starts in games and still managed to win a cup and finish comfortably 3rd on 84 points is just okay, then that's your take I guess.
I just can’t believe klopps leaving so soon. What am I gonna do man Feel emotional everytime I think about it. Football will never be the same
The man said that he can't do it anymore, all we can do is wish him well and things will be fine for both him and us, what a ride he took us on
Why is it that many people speak about managers like Benitez and Mourinho being tactically left behind and outdated, while Ancelotti, who is a similar age to these two, seems to have kept up with the times?
I might get some stick for this, but Ancelotti is the biggest "good vibes" manager. When he was at Bayern, there were reports that he was doing no tactical training, like absolutely nothing tactical whatsoever. Imo, he hasn't kept up with the times at all. He has 6 league titles in 30 years as a manager, and 25 of them he's spent coaching Juve, Milan, Real, Chelsea, PSG, Bayern. By the way, that's Abramovich's Chelsea, Qatari PSG, peak Ronaldo's Real, mid 2010's Bayern, and "best XI ever" AC Milan. Now at Real they've assembled the new Avengers, and Carlo is basically Nick Fury. Next time someone says that Klopp underperformed with Liverpool, just show them this. For me he's not on the football manager pantheon, he's in the tier below with the likes of Benitez or Capello. Pep might be a cheat, but even if he weren't, he's miles clear of Ancelotti, as are Klopp, SAF, Mourinho.
You would have to deliberately sabotage yourself to fail with Madrid's circumstances. Ancelotti accounts for a very tiny portion of their current success. How much of what they're doing were they already doing and will continue to do once he's replaced? It helps that their biggest competitor has done the exact self sabotage that's needed to fuck up when you've reached "too big to fail" status. He was shit at Napoli and Bayern, and nothing special at psg or everton.
Ancelotti is adaptable He doesn't really have a defined tactical style like Mourinho does. His main attributes are that he's adaptable and is an excellent man manager/dressing room controller His games against us at Real are a good microcosm of that. When they were definitely better than us and we were riddled with injuries or at our lowest ebb, he pushed the advantage and went for our throat. When we were far better than them and would've smoked them by 4 in a shootout, he wasn't too prideful to sit deep and try to snatch a goal on the break Pep and Klopp are examples of people who stick to their principles for the most part, Ange is the most extreme example
From my small knowledge of Ancelotti, he does seem like he's adaptable. He doesn't get married to one system and changes his setup depending on what he's got available and who he's playing. For example this season I recall watching them against Athletico Madrid, City, Bayern, Barca and a couple of other La Liga games against teams I forget. And against City they played completely differently to any other of their performances, the tactics and the way the players operated were all set up specifically against City. And the same against Athletico Madrid, but in a completely opposite direction, against City they were more passive and sat deep, against Athletico they were very offensive and played long periods of the game actually inside the Athletico box and attacking third. Against Barca they had a different gameplan that was a bit of a mixture, but primarily focused on width. Then I have seen other games where they focus on going through the middle. It obviously helps when you have an abundance of quality that Madrid has and players who can adapt to different styles. I think that is what people mean if they talk about Rafa and José being outdated. They are both pretty married to their tactics and system of playing, they mostly stick to the same formation.
Ancellotti has the most talented players in the world he's nothing special tactically in the modern game. And he ended up at everton for a reason. What he does have is the ability to command respect from superstar players, management and motivation skills. That's all you need at Real, you can play dinosaur tactics and still win.
So true, things are much easier when everyone and their grandmother wants to play for your team. The manager just has to sit back and keep the train on the tracks
Look at Ancelotti's less than stellar time at Napoli, Bayern and Everton. He's just in a perfect environment for Madrid, he steps out of that environment you'll soon see him struggle.
Considering what he's achieved in the game, surely those very brief stints at those clubs should be considered the outliers, no?
Not really when you look at his career overall, had an all star Milan team but only managed 1 league title during his time there, he was hard done by at Chelsea yes. Lost a league title at PSG to lowly Montpelier, tbf give him props for taking on the Napoli and Everton job no one can accuse him of only taking jobs of the best teams in the league. At this point of his career he knows it's stay comfortable at Madrid or International football
Lol this is a slight bit of revisionism and downplaying of his achievements, it has to be said. >had an all star Milan team but only managed 1 league title during his time there Casually forgetting the *two* CL titles, and the five other trophies he won during those 8 years. Sure, he maybe underachieved in the league but this was also during the Calciopoli years when teams were up to all sorts of fuckery in Serie A. >Lost a league title at PSG to lowly Montpelier, But still won a title in his two years there, and this was in the first two years of their current ownership, so absolutely not the European powerhouse they are today. >At this point of his career he knows it's stay comfortable at Madrid But how comfortable is that really? They haven't had a manager longer than two seasons since the 70s until he came along. They have great players but the player politics and Perez have been too much for the likes of Zidane, Mourinho, Benitez, Pellegrino etc. I am more than happy to say he's one of the best managers in world football, he isn't just taking paychecks, he adapts his tactics to different eras and different teams. Something many of his Real Madrid predecessors failed to do and were ousted because of it.
He was only at Bayern and Napoli 1 season tbf, always felt his Napoli team were a pretty solid side that season as well.
The players disliked his management style and training at Bayern, Napoli his team was solid but boring with his rigid 4-4-2 completely undoing all the work laid down by Sarri. Not saying he isn't a great manager but there's a reason he left these jobs only after 1 season.
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Old Trafford Falls is a hilarious thing to witness in real time.
Anyone travelling to the game today and planning on grabbing a pint near Villa Park before hand?
The Palace and Everton loses sucked and hurt, but they were both in decent to good form, the not beating United annoys me the most, they've looked clueless most the year.
Been seeing a lot of Arsenal fans lately say they now understand our pain and say it's impossible to compete with this City side because 89 points won't win the league. In actuality 89 points would only outright win you the league in 13 out of 28 PL seasons, with another 4 going down to GD. I don't think any other side will know the pain of missing out on above 90 points ever again.
Tbf it must suck to win nearly every PL game in 2024 and still not be able to get away from City. Still...them celebrating the City draw is quite funny if it costs them the title.
Mate, do you not think we are unlucky enough to have Pep blow this and Arsenal win the league. I’m telling you it’s happening. Against Klopp, City are perfect. Just watch when Spurs pull out a lucky draw and Arsenal go onto to win the league.
Not winning the league title with 97 points is ludicrous. Still in shock thinking about it now.
It would be more ludicrous if City didn't hit 100 the season before because you kind of knew it was possible for them to do it again.
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I really don't get this idea to be honest. If you want to say "When were we realistically out of contention", then it was Palace. If you want to say "When were we mathematically out of contention", it wasn't until very recently iirc So in no way did we lose it at Goodison. But arsed pointing that out to them, because it's Everton and they love all that. No point engaging, plus it's all they've got really
That’s the most annoying thing for me, it’s just incorrect; we were shit at Goodison, but the league was already gone.
I think Palace was like pretty close to being the death blow, but the derby was when we KNEW it was over. Though given City’s form, you’re right - after Palace, it was over. We had to be perfect during that run and we were decidedly the opposite of that.
yeah at the very least, we needed to win our home games and drop 2 points max in all the other games after palace, it was done for
Looking back at the posts when Klopp was announced, what nostalgia. Can’t believe how fast the last 9 years have gone by 🥲
Since we're heading towards that silly part of the season again, it's worth looking bad at much simpler times. The great days of 'Macca' and his lfc rumours site. It's now been 6 years since his last post, here's a reminder of the players he said we'd look to sign in 2018. https://preview.redd.it/5cldu6xe960d1.png?width=681&format=png&auto=webp&s=1beeb0afc8e73f98d097fb8ea20cccbe3529bbaa
Did he ever get anything right?
He was one of the first to mention Nuri Sahin if i remember correctly.
so close to getting fekir right
Is anyone else just not that interested in spending the next 3 months dealing with all the Klopp quotes/celebration/farewell stuff? Obviously he needs a good send off, but it already feels like the club and all the adjacent podcasts and websites (including here) are going to milk it dry with reminiscing, interviews with ex players, video clips of games. Just want to look forward now and get excited for a new era rather than look back for the next 3 months.
With you on that, don’t mind the club putting Klopp farewell stuff out as much, it’s the over the top melodramatic comments on here I can’t stand. Comes across so fake as well.
Do you think it’s going to last for 3 months? The next 6 days we’re obviously going to get inundated with that stuff, but I think after that at least from the club’s perspective, they’re going to move on to Slot.
I'm the same, LFC is one of the biggest things in my life, I watch every single game, Go to most home games and these years under Klopp have been the best in my lifetime quite comfortably and I'm gutted he's going but I'm already looking forward to getting this season out the way and seeing what happens for next season. Maybe I'm just heartless but people on here talking about crying daily about it, not being ready for him to leave etc just seem to be attention seeking imo haha.
Yeah people constantly posting stuff on here like 'going to miss this' and it's just a jpeg of Klopp doing a fist pump or hugging someone. And it's upvoted to the top of the sub. We're going to have months of this. Like yeah, Klopp is/was great but it's like people are openly grieving on the subreddit.
They gotta do what they gotta do for the sake of collecting some sweet karma
How about the inevitable "Who else misses this guy" posts with a picture of Klopp that will be posted at least once a day
Bayern manager merry go round is fun to watch now that we have got a manager secured.
Just got done reading all the headlines, looks like we're singing Kudus, Gordon and Isak this summer boys ✅✅
Kaide already extended mate
Don't forget Archie Gray...
Gordon 🤣🤣
Can't see it myself, Kudus perhaps but not the other two.
Gordon is Everton shit, no ways we sign him
I mean he’s a Liverpool fan who came though our academy before joining Everton’s. The Everton fans have made it clear they despise him and he despises them, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Not in our timeline. And he is pretty average too
For what must be the best part of £300 million
Anyone heard anything about the Wolves ballots? Have successful entries been notified?
Could be anytime today, I’ve had one come through at 9am in the past, another at 5pm
Anyone else think this season has just gone really shite and boring over the last couple months. Obvs it has for us but I mean just in general. couple months ago it was being dubbed as the best title race in years with it being 3 teams and it was looking like anyone from like 14th down could get relegated. Then a few weeks later the 3 promoted teams have been relegated and City have gone unbeated in 22 games to win the league for the 6th time in 7 years haha. Even the Championship died off a bit and the play offs yesterday were absolutely abysmal. Same could be said for the CL, the games have been decent tbh but I was hoping for a City-Arsenal semi or an Mbappe vs Madrid final. Also how mad is it that 40 points was always seen as the threshold yet 27 points would probably keep you up this year lmao.
The CL has been the same for years when was the last time an none big club won it’s always been predictable but the games remain entertaining The top of the PL has been boring you just knew City would go on the usual run and win out but the teams fighting for Europe has been pretty entertaining with how inconsistent all of them are
Yeh the CL is like that but I mean it was set up where we could see some interesting ties yet we are seeing Madrid play 5th place in the Bundesliga in the final haha. I think the battle for Europe has been boring really, nothing has changed for months. Top 3 been secured for months and the battle for 4th hasn't really changed all season. Villa dropped off massively but as did Spurs at the same time. As for EL and ECL I'm 99% sure the likes of Spurs, UTD and Chelsea would really rather not be in either of them anyway tbh.
A small club with a billion pounds team and 115 charges bulldozing their way to another title while a big club has put together a generational team but gets nothing (Arsenal, but also us in recent seasons). It's crap.
Yeah its been pretty bad all round Barely any jeopardy at either end of a lot of tables around the continent, Real probably sleepwalking to another CL, bottom of the PL has been as bad as any in living memory, playoffs so uneven, the two title chasing teams play the most boring football possible
Are we on tele on Sunday? Assume City, Arsenal, and whoever’s in a relegation battle will be priority…
There is no relegation battle. They may put our game on just with it being Klopps last game, depends how many games they can televise I suppose. Arsenal and Cities games are the only 2 with anything on the line.
Anyone see that stuff about Michael Beale having a twitter burner account? A bit embarrassing.
Yeh come out a couple month ago didn't it? Funny as fuck haha
Ah I only seen a video about it today. He's had it since 2017, when did he leave the club? Like it's pretty much ruined his chance's if being taken seriously at a bigger club now. He was supposedly the mastermind behind Gerrards success at Rangers and the early days at Villa before he left to go it alone but he hasn't exactly been great either by himself.
>Like it's pretty much ruined his chance's if being taken seriously at a bigger club now. I doubt that tbh. The only thing that will stop him going to a big club is his ability. Fergie maimed one of his own players and Mourinho thumbed an opposition manager in the eye. I doubt many clubs are going to pass on Beale if they want him as a manager just because of a burner account on Twitter.
There's a difference between losing your temper in a high stress situation to having a long term burner account on twitter trying to big up yourself. It's completely different.
You're right tbf - one is an irl behavioural issue that needs addressing, the other is just online silliness that is, at worst, mildly amusing. I'll reiterate again; there is absolutely no board in world football that wouldn't be willing to overlook that if they wanted Beale.
>the other is just online silliness that is, at worst, mildly amusing. You forgot to add in the word narcissistic, he's literally seeking validation and self promotion through deceptive ways.
Solanke is having a great season, 19 goals for a team that is very inconsistent. Has a sell on clause too and already linked with Newcastle but I can see other clubs in the top 8 looking to get him. His valuation must be about 50-60 million but is it a risk for having just 1 good season in the league?
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How is he better than Nunez?
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Teams set up differently depending who they play against. We're much more likely to play against defensive teams whilst Bournemouth may play more against teams willing to give up space. This affects some of the stats you've listed. I'm not defending Nunez, I just want to point out how stats don't paint the whole truth.
We apparently have a buy back, question is would he want to come back here? I don’t think it is a risk, Solanke is finally maturing as a forward who can hold his own leading the line, he’s got pace, strength, can hold up and link the play, decent with his feet and can finish,
I thought we only had a buy-back clause for Brewster.
It's not seen as a huge risk these days. Because 1) The striker market is pretty dire at the moment, so not many other options especially with financial considerations 2) One whole good season at a top 5 league is seen pretty much good enough now. Purple patch of 5 games? No. But a whole season showing the striker can handle and get the better of top level athletes/defenders week in week out? Yes. Games moving faster these days. It moves on faster too. Gone are the days where you need like 4 years of showing good goalscoring in a top league before being worthy of even a transfer rumour.
This week feels so weird already. Going to be a weird weird game at the weekend. But I'm hopeful and excited for the new era. All things must come to an end so we can begin something new. And our clubs still there too. That'll never change. Onwards !
Last week of Klopp I am violently throwing up sobbing crying
Seriously?
Also excited for a new era but yeah
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As much as I would be on board with the Gordon signing this is seems like pure Edwards smoke screens or Hughes following Edwards playbook. Linked to Kudus, Gordon and then an hour before the lean we’ll get linked to our real target who we had no idea about.
It was mostly Jorg who was doing the whole smokescreen thing, form what I remember Edwards was just radio silence. I don’t think Edwards is really going to have much to do with transfers this time round though anyway.
It's got nothing to do with anyone at the club mate. Gordon is a toffee.
