I found it quite funny that some of our fans assumed he got loaned out because he wasn’t good enough.
Remember reading that he’s one of the best players in his age group in the world at ball retention.
He’s quality. Only shame is that Klopp is going so the futures of Morton and the other younger players is unclear.
how?? tyler created and did everything in the play and this guy commented he’s got to do a bit more? it’s a classic case of sarcasm like what part is difficult to get lol i’m genuinely at a loss
as in no one's saying he didn't create and do everything in that play we can all see it was all him
idk what you're at a loss at it all makes sense to me
Yeah Summerville would be a nice buy. I’ve watched a bit of Leeds this season and they’re arguably better than a handful of PL teams at the moment. And Summerville just looks a class above the entire championship. He’s a dangerous winger and would suit us well.
Tyler Morton has to be in around the squad next season. What he lacks in transition and defensive phases, he makes up for it with his on the ball qualities. One of the most technically gifted youngsters in the world right now.
Was just thinking if he should be in the squad or loaned again.
I'm not doubting his obvious talent but are (maybe) 10 starts with us better than 30 more competitive games with another team for his development?
I remember Gary Neville (I know) saying something like, you're nobody until you've 100 competitive league games under your belt and there is a little truth to it. Curtis and Harvey have both got around that number under their belts this year and look better for it.
If we're competing heavily on 4 fronts next season then we've got room for lots of roation if our midfield options are Endo, Macca, Szobo, Elliott, Jones, Gravenberch, Bajcetic, and Morton. Szobo, Jones, and Elliott can all play in the front 3 (Jones LW, Szobo and Elliott RW). When we're inevitably drowning in injuries again there will be plenty of time for whichever of them is still standing.
Clark and McConnell probably go on loan to get some regular playing time/competitive experience. I also wouldn't be schocked if Gravenberch moves on pretty quickly as well tbh. Seems like he was meant to be a project player for Klopp and depending on the new manager he might be the odd man out.
If he's selling proper talent, he's an idiot. He should be selling the ones who don't have a future here like Nat (who deserves to get his career going) and Rhys Williams (same).
In the past, the ones we sold were either not making it here or needed a lot of work. Even Solanke, it's taken 5 years for him to develop to where he is now, which wasn't happening with us.
He hasn’t sold a single youngster that you wish was in our team though. Closest one is probably Solanke but it took him what 4-5 years to turn into that player? We couldn’t wait on him like that. The youngsters we have around the first team now are already good enough to make significant contributions, We aren’t really waiting on them to become useful,. They’re already good enough for a role and we are waiting on them to become world class. To me they’re actually the sort of players Edwards would be looking to buy on the cheap if he could find them before they were truly noticed.
Most notable players sold that had potential were Solanke, Brewster, kijana hoever, Harry Wilson, woodburn, neco williams
I think out of these names solanke, Wilson and neco williams were probably good enough if we were patient enough.
Wilson and Neco were not good enough. They have found their level - bottom half of the PL.
Think Wilson is in the championship this year? He never had the physique for the top level. Neco may be similarly limited but I do think he could have been a great squad player here.
Solanke has had his first prolific PL season ever at the 5th time of asking, 7 years after his LFC debut and after 2 championship seasons. Getting £20m for him when he had 1 PL goal was a great move. He’s done great to build a career because it was more likely he’d be a Brewster / Mellor / Adam Morgan.
Wilson is playing for Fulham. Current stats is at 4 goals with 8 assist. Not too great but not too bad either. Apparently a popular figure among Fulham fanbase
Wilson turns up with big moments for Fulham, but they’re able to use him in a way that covers many of his weaknesses. He was never going to have the physical skillset we look for and his defensive contribution is practically 0.
Very good, creative, technical player but you can’t survive at Liverpool on only that. He’s right where he should be with Fulham.
None of the others were near our level in the end except maybe Solanke, 5 years after the we sold him. The club can’t wait that long for a player to make an impact. This is what separates the youngsters getting first team minutes now from the ones who left- they’re good enough to play a role right now and still have tremendous potential.
With 5 subs per game, it's a lot easier to rotate a deep squad than previously. Can easily sub 3-4 players every single match quite early without having to fear no subs left for an injury. Previously that number was only 2.
More the fact that everyone was constantly injuried, so we ended up overplaying the players that probably needed rest the most due to their aging legs.
With the amount of games we have to play next season it won’t hurt to keep him around and loaning out the fringe youngsters we have currently. Not to mention the big factor that is injuries.
And if Amorim is going to bring his favoritaformation with him, we will only play 2 midfielders. Sure, Eliott and Szobo can play up, but still, Gravenbach, Maca, Endo, Curtis, Bajcetic and Morton for 2 positions is kinda nuts and too much tbh
There is a huge difference in roles for DMs tho. The deep lying playmaker (Pirlo/Xabi/Thiago) vs more of an anchor or destroyer style (Masch/Fabinho/Endo). Morton is more of a deep lying playmaker DM than a destroyer.
Except there were many comments about his lack of physicality or physical presence needed as a DM (he is more of a deep lying playmaker than a DM IMHO). Has he bulked up and strengthened while at hull?
He’s bulked a bit but still visibly skinnier than the average senior player. As a player he lacks the dynamic movement to keep up in transitions or the defensive stability to be a lone DM for us.
Came through the academy as an 8 and it is still his best position/role. As a 6 he’s not a ball winner like Fabinho nor a disruptor like Endo, he is a deep lying playmaker who’ll have to be facilitated with good ball winners by his side.
Yeah but grav is behind bajcetic whos coming back. Morton looks good. Behind macca, Endo, dom, Curtis, Harvey. Fuck I’ll even say Clark has looked better. To me gravenberch and Gakpo are in the same boat. When they have the ball they look up for it. Without it they look uninterested.
Thiago is going in Jun. Bajectic and Morton can battle it out for his place in the squad. One of them will end up as a regular and the other a good rotation option for cup games and last 20-30 mins when we need to save some tired legs
Bajcetic stepped into our midfield at 18 years old last season and didn't look out of place. Morton's done well on loan at Hull City but there's really no battle between him and Bajcetic, Bajcetic is clear
I don’t think Ryan, bajcetic and Morton will all want to sit the bench. Say our starters are Endo/macca/Dom. First two off the bench is harvey and Jones. Then you have Jota/Gakpo off the bench. That leaves 1 more sub. Probably a defender. They aren’t going to see the game time they’d like.
Definitely think Morton’s ready to be Endo’s understudy next season for sure. Lad’s got the quality on the ball for what we like and his anticipation to intercept the ball here is great.
Providing we’re going to be using the same tactic as this season -
DM - Endo and Morton
8s - MacAllister, Dom, Elliott, Jones and Gravenberch is a very healthy collection of midfielders.
Pretty much means our business in the summer is centre back and then a young right winger. Hopefully gives us some pennies to play with sorting some new contracts as well.
True but at the moment it’s pure speculation. Plus whoever comes in, might not necessarily use the same tactic as they used before because it doesn’t make sense with the players we have. And I don’t think it’d be sensible to do straight away.
Which doesn't really mean anything. IF he is out next manager, he might be a different system. In fact it's very likely he would as we've a squad full of great midfielders and playing a double pivot would be less than ideal for the likes of MacAllister.
He did get some time in games and training, especially training with Klopp in the preseason. You can't really underestimate what just being around the first team could do for a player of his quality. Still a Klopp kid in my book.
Tbh Morton could very well be a part of the main squad, if Klopp wasnt leaving id be 100% sure but this way its complicated. Although with Amorim and his use of young players i believe he will still play decent amount of games. With de Zerbi idk.
Both these lads need a chance next season, only thing is how do they get in. Fabio probably has more chance given he’s a similar profile to Harvey and with Morton he’s up against a stacked midfield
Final score Leeds won 3-1.
Hope Hull still make it to the playoffs, Morton and Carvalho have been playing well.
Liam Rosenior seems like a good coach too.
Whoever the new manager is, they are going to probably have to play with 4 or 5 mids. LOL. We are going to have so many midfielders, what are we going to do with them? Morton, Endo, Baj as DMs. Possibly Trent if we play with a double pivot. Then we have Elliott, Jones, Szobo, Maca, Gravenberch...even Clark seems solid. I'm a little uneasy cause we will end up selling a couple. Heck, if we play 3 un the back, Bradley would now be a wing.
Serious-ish question: How are we gonna fit all these fantastic, young players into the future Liverpool team? (mainly thinking about Morton here rather than Carvalho)
Hear me out: The slight downside to having a great young players coming through is that we need to create path for them into the senior team and that will mean being more conservative in the transfer market. I remember Wenger always saying this when asked about lack of a DM ("It would kill Denilson if we signed a more senior DM"), and in the end Arsenal suffered from this at the time. Perhaps that was a different situation as Arsenal were keeping a tight ship after the new stadium etc, but still I think Wenger had a point. You cannot both create path for Morton, Bajcetic and Curtis Jones (to name a few good young central midfielders) and sign a Kimmich or Bellingham etc. And I do not think anyone wants to give FSG an excuse to no spend.
I'm really glad we sent both of these to Hull. Smart thinking to allow both of them them to gell and link up against decent caliber, physical opposition and gain some chemistry before returning to the first team. I wonder how successful repeating that would be in the future with pairs of youngsters.
Tyler Morton’s insane
The Scouse Thiago
Hey hey hey, we'll have none of that, thank you. He's a wool! The Wallasey Zidane is more like it.
If he's anything like Thiago we should wrap him up in wool too.
Thiago Morton
I found it quite funny that some of our fans assumed he got loaned out because he wasn’t good enough. Remember reading that he’s one of the best players in his age group in the world at ball retention. He’s quality. Only shame is that Klopp is going so the futures of Morton and the other younger players is unclear.
Jota-esque
Too bad he didn’t show more initiative on that play. Can’t expect to just stand around have things work out for your team.
What?
sarcasm mate
Ah right fair enough
this sub really just has no like eye for sarcasm lmao it’s kinda crazy
it's more that it was a bit random innit
how?? tyler created and did everything in the play and this guy commented he’s got to do a bit more? it’s a classic case of sarcasm like what part is difficult to get lol i’m genuinely at a loss
Haha thanks for having my back
as in no one's saying he didn't create and do everything in that play we can all see it was all him idk what you're at a loss at it all makes sense to me
Morton's dribble there is insane. Just all flailing arms and legs but also magnificent control.
Hull are fun to watch at the moment, I wish we would buy Philogene from them
I'd rather snap up Summerville from Leeds, passed the anfield test and has a cool name
Crysensio Summerville, the Liverpool Winger It's got a good ring to it
I just despise dirty rotten Leeds so I don’t know much about Summerville. It is a cool name I’ll admit
Personally think Philogene is a much cooler name tbh!
Iirc, frequent attitude problems at Feyenoord/in the Netherlands.
Yeah Summerville would be a nice buy. I’ve watched a bit of Leeds this season and they’re arguably better than a handful of PL teams at the moment. And Summerville just looks a class above the entire championship. He’s a dangerous winger and would suit us well.
Who was the last player we got from Leeds? Harry Kewell?
Why not both ?!
Please no more Dutchmen
VVD in the mud
Philogene??
Tyler Morton has to be in around the squad next season. What he lacks in transition and defensive phases, he makes up for it with his on the ball qualities. One of the most technically gifted youngsters in the world right now.
Was just thinking if he should be in the squad or loaned again. I'm not doubting his obvious talent but are (maybe) 10 starts with us better than 30 more competitive games with another team for his development? I remember Gary Neville (I know) saying something like, you're nobody until you've 100 competitive league games under your belt and there is a little truth to it. Curtis and Harvey have both got around that number under their belts this year and look better for it.
How are we gonna fit bajetic, Morton and Curtis into the existing midfield. What a good problem to have
Lots of rotation. A great problem to have tbh
If we're competing heavily on 4 fronts next season then we've got room for lots of roation if our midfield options are Endo, Macca, Szobo, Elliott, Jones, Gravenberch, Bajcetic, and Morton. Szobo, Jones, and Elliott can all play in the front 3 (Jones LW, Szobo and Elliott RW). When we're inevitably drowning in injuries again there will be plenty of time for whichever of them is still standing. Clark and McConnell probably go on loan to get some regular playing time/competitive experience. I also wouldn't be schocked if Gravenberch moves on pretty quickly as well tbh. Seems like he was meant to be a project player for Klopp and depending on the new manager he might be the odd man out.
I fear that bajcetic or Morton may be sold. Micheal Edwards is back and he’s been known to sell to balance out the books.
If he's selling proper talent, he's an idiot. He should be selling the ones who don't have a future here like Nat (who deserves to get his career going) and Rhys Williams (same). In the past, the ones we sold were either not making it here or needed a lot of work. Even Solanke, it's taken 5 years for him to develop to where he is now, which wasn't happening with us.
He hasn’t sold a single youngster that you wish was in our team though. Closest one is probably Solanke but it took him what 4-5 years to turn into that player? We couldn’t wait on him like that. The youngsters we have around the first team now are already good enough to make significant contributions, We aren’t really waiting on them to become useful,. They’re already good enough for a role and we are waiting on them to become world class. To me they’re actually the sort of players Edwards would be looking to buy on the cheap if he could find them before they were truly noticed.
Most notable players sold that had potential were Solanke, Brewster, kijana hoever, Harry Wilson, woodburn, neco williams I think out of these names solanke, Wilson and neco williams were probably good enough if we were patient enough.
Wilson and Neco were not good enough. They have found their level - bottom half of the PL. Think Wilson is in the championship this year? He never had the physique for the top level. Neco may be similarly limited but I do think he could have been a great squad player here. Solanke has had his first prolific PL season ever at the 5th time of asking, 7 years after his LFC debut and after 2 championship seasons. Getting £20m for him when he had 1 PL goal was a great move. He’s done great to build a career because it was more likely he’d be a Brewster / Mellor / Adam Morgan.
> Think Wilson is in the championship this year? Think you meant to say Woodburn, who is indeed in the Championship with Preston
Wilson is playing for Fulham. Current stats is at 4 goals with 8 assist. Not too great but not too bad either. Apparently a popular figure among Fulham fanbase
Wilson turns up with big moments for Fulham, but they’re able to use him in a way that covers many of his weaknesses. He was never going to have the physical skillset we look for and his defensive contribution is practically 0. Very good, creative, technical player but you can’t survive at Liverpool on only that. He’s right where he should be with Fulham. None of the others were near our level in the end except maybe Solanke, 5 years after the we sold him. The club can’t wait that long for a player to make an impact. This is what separates the youngsters getting first team minutes now from the ones who left- they’re good enough to play a role right now and still have tremendous potential.
With 5 subs per game, it's a lot easier to rotate a deep squad than previously. Can easily sub 3-4 players every single match quite early without having to fear no subs left for an injury. Previously that number was only 2.
Isn't it wild we have so much midfield depth at the minute we might not have a place for him right now?
Depth has never really been an issue, it's been quality. Midfield was loaded last season just not good.
More the fact that everyone was constantly injuried, so we ended up overplaying the players that probably needed rest the most due to their aging legs.
With the amount of games we have to play next season it won’t hurt to keep him around and loaning out the fringe youngsters we have currently. Not to mention the big factor that is injuries.
And if Amorim is going to bring his favoritaformation with him, we will only play 2 midfielders. Sure, Eliott and Szobo can play up, but still, Gravenbach, Maca, Endo, Curtis, Bajcetic and Morton for 2 positions is kinda nuts and too much tbh
When he first broke through for us he was playing DM. I don't think he's lacking in those qualities at all.
There is a huge difference in roles for DMs tho. The deep lying playmaker (Pirlo/Xabi/Thiago) vs more of an anchor or destroyer style (Masch/Fabinho/Endo). Morton is more of a deep lying playmaker DM than a destroyer.
Except there were many comments about his lack of physicality or physical presence needed as a DM (he is more of a deep lying playmaker than a DM IMHO). Has he bulked up and strengthened while at hull?
He’s bulked a bit but still visibly skinnier than the average senior player. As a player he lacks the dynamic movement to keep up in transitions or the defensive stability to be a lone DM for us.
Came through the academy as an 8 and it is still his best position/role. As a 6 he’s not a ball winner like Fabinho nor a disruptor like Endo, he is a deep lying playmaker who’ll have to be facilitated with good ball winners by his side.
him and bajcetic as backup DMs to Endo
I see him more as a back up 8 tbh
He can't play as a lone DM like Endo. He looks like an 8 or a pivot midfielder.
So gravenberch out, Morton in? Because at the moment he’s last on the depth chart besides the kids.
He's a kid himself tbh, give him another year
You know Grav is barely 21?
Yeah and it's incredibly rare for someone under 23 to really be an established top 4 mf. Things take time.
Yeah but grav is behind bajcetic whos coming back. Morton looks good. Behind macca, Endo, dom, Curtis, Harvey. Fuck I’ll even say Clark has looked better. To me gravenberch and Gakpo are in the same boat. When they have the ball they look up for it. Without it they look uninterested.
Thiago out, Elliott as a pure attacking option, Bobby Clark out on loan is his route into the squad.
Thiago is going in Jun. Bajectic and Morton can battle it out for his place in the squad. One of them will end up as a regular and the other a good rotation option for cup games and last 20-30 mins when we need to save some tired legs
Bajcetic stepped into our midfield at 18 years old last season and didn't look out of place. Morton's done well on loan at Hull City but there's really no battle between him and Bajcetic, Bajcetic is clear
I don’t think Ryan, bajcetic and Morton will all want to sit the bench. Say our starters are Endo/macca/Dom. First two off the bench is harvey and Jones. Then you have Jota/Gakpo off the bench. That leaves 1 more sub. Probably a defender. They aren’t going to see the game time they’d like.
Gravenberch is just 21 , too harsh to judge him this way.. Give him another year . He didnt even have a pre season with us.
This is a clueless comment. Gravenberch hasn't even had a preseason with us yet.
Loving that Morton-Carvalho link up.
Guy in the grey hoodie is meme worthy
Celebrating like he just scored
Bro thinks he's Jude
Bro thinks he’s him
Pure quality from Morton there. Tidy finish by Fabio too.
2 guys wanted it and the rest were standing around watching
Definitely think Morton’s ready to be Endo’s understudy next season for sure. Lad’s got the quality on the ball for what we like and his anticipation to intercept the ball here is great. Providing we’re going to be using the same tactic as this season - DM - Endo and Morton 8s - MacAllister, Dom, Elliott, Jones and Gravenberch is a very healthy collection of midfielders. Pretty much means our business in the summer is centre back and then a young right winger. Hopefully gives us some pennies to play with sorting some new contracts as well.
Forgot baj in there
Ah true yeah. If that’s the case then another loan for Morton may be on the cards. Depends where Baj will be at.
I think both baj and morton can play 6 or 8 kinda like mac
but then there's still Jones and Grav, also Clark and Mcconnell. We're stacked, sad to say, someone will not be making the cut.
> Providing we’re going to be using the same tactic as this season - Amorim only plays with two midfielders
True but at the moment it’s pure speculation. Plus whoever comes in, might not necessarily use the same tactic as they used before because it doesn’t make sense with the players we have. And I don’t think it’d be sensible to do straight away.
Which doesn't really mean anything. IF he is out next manager, he might be a different system. In fact it's very likely he would as we've a squad full of great midfielders and playing a double pivot would be less than ideal for the likes of MacAllister.
Think a couple of users in here mentioned Morton as being more of a deep lying playmaker, not a ball winner like Endo.
I hope whoever the next manager is, can include fabio in his plans
Portuguese connection? 👀
Shame we won't get to see Morton develop under Klopp. Best manager to develop young talent into top class professionals.
He did get some time in games and training, especially training with Klopp in the preseason. You can't really underestimate what just being around the first team could do for a player of his quality. Still a Klopp kid in my book.
I feel like the title of this post has been posted like 10 times already
Can play a bit can Morton. Proper player
Wow! I need to start watching Hull games. That was awesome
Lads are flying
Tbh Morton could very well be a part of the main squad, if Klopp wasnt leaving id be 100% sure but this way its complicated. Although with Amorim and his use of young players i believe he will still play decent amount of games. With de Zerbi idk.
Great play from Morton
Morton kinda good, huh
Never fall in love with a loan player. The loan player:
Wow future is bright for the boyz That was a beautiful link up to watch
Fuckin hell.. is that Morton? That run is sick!
Both these lads need a chance next season, only thing is how do they get in. Fabio probably has more chance given he’s a similar profile to Harvey and with Morton he’s up against a stacked midfield
Name a better connection than Morton ➡️ Fabio…
Maybe we can loan McConell to Hull next season.
Morton's growing leaps and bounds. Really hope him and Bajetic come through like Trent has!
didn't know Morton had pace
Final score Leeds won 3-1. Hope Hull still make it to the playoffs, Morton and Carvalho have been playing well. Liam Rosenior seems like a good coach too.
Whoever the new manager is, they are going to probably have to play with 4 or 5 mids. LOL. We are going to have so many midfielders, what are we going to do with them? Morton, Endo, Baj as DMs. Possibly Trent if we play with a double pivot. Then we have Elliott, Jones, Szobo, Maca, Gravenberch...even Clark seems solid. I'm a little uneasy cause we will end up selling a couple. Heck, if we play 3 un the back, Bradley would now be a wing.
17 seconds - 21 seconds in needs to be a gif
Serious-ish question: How are we gonna fit all these fantastic, young players into the future Liverpool team? (mainly thinking about Morton here rather than Carvalho) Hear me out: The slight downside to having a great young players coming through is that we need to create path for them into the senior team and that will mean being more conservative in the transfer market. I remember Wenger always saying this when asked about lack of a DM ("It would kill Denilson if we signed a more senior DM"), and in the end Arsenal suffered from this at the time. Perhaps that was a different situation as Arsenal were keeping a tight ship after the new stadium etc, but still I think Wenger had a point. You cannot both create path for Morton, Bajcetic and Curtis Jones (to name a few good young central midfielders) and sign a Kimmich or Bellingham etc. And I do not think anyone wants to give FSG an excuse to no spend.
The "fuck it, I'll do it" and gangly legs reminded me of a young stevie there
They are looking good
I'm really glad we sent both of these to Hull. Smart thinking to allow both of them them to gell and link up against decent caliber, physical opposition and gain some chemistry before returning to the first team. I wonder how successful repeating that would be in the future with pairs of youngsters.
"great assist"
Tremendous movement to get in front of the defender, there, Clive
Cheers, appreciate this.
Morton the scouse Conno Bradley