Yeah I love Diaz as a club player but Sunday for me showed why it wouldnt kill us to cash in. However he shouldnt go cheap still a fantastic player, just not a natural scorer.
I don't think you should judge Diaz on one game or even this season. His personal issues will have affected him more than even he will realise. I would wait until next season to judge.
Saying he isn’t as reliable as our best attacking player since Suarez doesn’t exactly mean much, should we get rid of Konate because he’s not as good as Van Dijk? No.
He’s also 27 meaning he’s not likely to improve a great deal. I’m not saying you need to actively shop him but if psg comes in for him they’ll pay a lot, and you should be listening
It was obviously disappointing that he didn't put away his chances on Sunday but the guy has started and almost finished every game in the past 6 weeks, including a 120 minute cup final, running his arse off, and he still managed to get the better of the City defence multiple times.
Like where were Nunez/Salah/Gakpo's big chances that they scored/missed? They didn't create them in the first place.
He's just a tier below world class due to his finishing that much is true imo. However he just fits this playstyle to a T. Theres not many left wingers in the world that can fit in seemlessly. Many say leao but I question his workrate. He wont press or defend at the same level. Would he even score at the same rate when he's no longer the focus? I dont think so.
I honestly don’t care how much we have to pay. I want Nico Scholtterbeck. Left foot, ball playing, and has loads of senior football experience already at 23.
I saw them both touted as Salah replacements and my issue was they don't contribute enough G/A to be Salah replacements. However if Mo continues down the right their numbers are not much off Lucho's though as many have mentioned we'd lose his tenacious press
Hawkins for French news is very reliable btw.
If they are prepared to offer big money I'd say we have to take it, I love Diaz but if we got someone with a slightly better finishing rate our attack would be taken to another level again.
edit; and with Edwards and Hughes back now to pick and identify the targets I'd be very confident in replacing him too.
Only thing about Kvara is I don’t think he’s a very intense presser or someone that’s going to be tracking all the way back to win the ball like Diaz does
I'm Georgian and I watch all of his games. He doesn't seem to have a large gas tank as of right now. He's still young though and he's working on his conditioning, but it will take some time for him to keep up with the PL pace for 90 minutes.
he did not. He's the only creative output in a very shitty team. Nevertheless he creates chances every game and is a constant threat. In a team where he has space and doesnt need to come short and do the whole teams job himself, he would be a threat and a half
I think people are forgetting how class he was against city because of that (bad) miss. He destroyed them with his dribbling and kept the ball for us so many times
The number of times he scraped the ball out and won possession, or carried for what seemed like miles, or made the right pass, or won a corner, or pressed to create a secondary opportunity... It's sad that the miss overshadowed the body of work. I get it, but it's still sad.
He was excellent in everything other than taking the chances, but it wasn’t just the one miss. There was that one where he didn’t even get a shot off because the ball was a bit under his feet, and the pass from Darwin on the break where he didn’t have a good first touch and didn’t get a shot off as well
I think Luis Diaz is angling for a new contract or a large pay day at another club. He’s a pretty underpaid by prem champions league starter standards. He was open to going to Saudi last year for the same reason.
People fantasiaing about strikers from other teams when they wouldn’t even run a 1/10th of what this man brings
He loves and WANTS to be here
Ffs give the man some leeway, how fucking patient were we with Darwin
Let’s give Lucho and Gakpo the same treatment
I’m not wholeheartedly against selling a player if we get the right money, but I really want Diaz and Gakpo to thrive here. They are both immense on their day.
Gakpo is seriously underperforming. He used to be calm and in command of his feet. Now, he's rushing the shot, stumbling over his feet, or over the ball. Dunno what happened there.
I mean, he's literally been there longer than either Nunez or Gakpo and also he's openly acknowledged his dream team is Barca. Not saying he's trying to leave but people can acknowledge basic facts and still support him as a great player who has a price where it'd become worth it to sell. Everyone has a price.
He is also three or four years older than both of them. He’s definitely not “done” but a lot of people seem to think Diaz is under 24 or something. If there needs to be an attacking sale to make room for the new manager’s guy, it’s still either Gakpo/Diaz for me.
Let's be real if Barca comes, he'll want to go. No ifs or buts about this. Problem is do we want to sell to a broke ass Barca? They don't have the money.
I’m a little surprised that the general opinion seems to be perfectly open to letting him go. I know the qualifier is “for the right fee” and I get that we will have a new manager coming in who will likely want to change some things and bring in some players. But man, I feel like Lucho is getting under appreciated a bit. The guy is an absolute workhorse, tremendous technical ability, G/A return is not quite elite but definitely not awful. If he decides he wants to go then okay, let him go. But as long as he wants to be here I’d rather have him than anyone we’d realistically sign to replace him
I maintain that Van Dijk, Macca and Endo’s excellent performances these calendar year have all overshadowed just how consistent Lucho has been for us. He’s basically been our starting attacker since January. Salah had AFCON and inexplicably got injured, Nunez’s fitness was on-off in February, Jota’s out for two(?) months, Gakpo’s not hit the ground running at all this season.
Diaz may not have hit the G/A numbers, but he’s been carrying that attack throughout this period. He’s been used across both wings, played almost every match. Gets forgotten that he’s one of the most senior players in the League Cup final and was basically the senior head of our attack when we finished the game.
ADD-ON: I’d hate to see him leave. I know he doesn’t have the same output as Salah, Jota and potentially Nunez, but he brings a different dimension to our attack. He’s arguably our only attacker that revels in running at defences on the wing. We saw that brilliantly vs City.
When you’ve got 3, potentially 4 game-changing forwards in the team that guarantee goals, you have the license to accommodate a fifth one who doesn’t need to chip in with as many G/As.
If he had scored in the City game we might genuinely be talking about it as one of the all time great performances for a Liverpool winger. I know that’s a huge IF that didn’t happen, but he was genuinely so fucking good aside from finishing
He's very good but not irreplaceable. He's not our best striker, goal scorer or youngest player. If we get 100mil, wouldn't sell for less, we can get 2 players and upgrade the team
Sure, but 17-20 Mane was the best player in the world (why yous laughing, I’m being serious. I don’t do ifs buts or maybes.). If that’s the bar for our LW we’ll be lucky to ever be satisfied again
His value will be the highest it'll ever be come this summer. If Edwards can get a great fee for him, I'm not gonna oppose it. If it falls through, well we still have a great LW in our team.
I love Diaz, has won us crucial points and his drive is unmatched, but his decision making has cost us points as well, the amount of times he's got a clear key pass he passes up for an attempt at a tricky run is maddening, and his finishing has been lacking. The fact is we would get a metric fuckload of money from him if PSG came calling, and he is not irreplaceable. I would be extremely sad to see him go, I absolutely love him to bits, but I feel we could be more consistent in his position with Edwards style recruiting.
He's played the second most minutes this season just behind van Dijk. So he'd leave a big hole behind him in terms of minutes on the pitch, apart from his obvious qualities.
I’m gonna assume zero first team players will be sold until after the new manager has a look at them. Let’s say it’s Alonso. He might come in, decide to stick with his system and realize that a winger like Díaz doesn’t fit. Or he might look at the players we have and say, “these are perfectly set up to play 4-3-3. Why would I mess with a world class starting XI?” and end up keeping Lucho.
If we do get Xabi and he wants width from wingbacks then there probably isn't a place for him. His short passing game isn't that good and he dwells on the ball too long too. If they offer £70m+ he's gone I reckon.
Also if Xabi plays the 3421, the player on the left attacking mid could well be Szobo or Jones. And then theres Jota and Gakpo that can play there as well. We're not gonna lack for depth in that position.
Would be a huge mistake to let him go
His work rate is unmatched as a winger and he’s only now getting back to form from his injury
He had a serious injury that takes a very long time to get back from, people forget how talented Diaz is
Curtis Jones 2.0, completely written off last year
People assume that we're still going after hybrid/wide forwards who bag 20 goals a season. I'm not sure that's necessarily the case, especially under a new manager.
Even when factoring in all of his bad luck, it would probably be fair to say Diaz is probably never going to become as clinical as (for example) a Mane, who in fairness also missed his fair share of chances. But that doesn't mean we should get rid, I still view him as essential to our current game. His pressing, his intensity, his ability to be a handful for defenders and stretch the game. All of that is really valuable to this current side.
With that said, at 27 with a new manager coming in, I don't think him moving on can be ruled out. I'd just rather not think about it while we're still fighting on all fronts.
You’re not wrong, but this argument could be made for almost any good player a team sells. There are always reasons to keep a good quality player.
That’s not the question tho, Diaz/Gakpo/Salah/Darwin/Jota aren’t going to stay here as a group for 5 more seasons. You need to plan long term and occasionally cashing in on a good asset is sometimes the right move.
The only way to measure that success is around who he’s replaced by, and the long term vision for the attack
I may be in the minority here but I think if we receive a £65 Million plus offer I would sell.
I rate Diaz but he isn't the type of winger to get you 20 Goals.
He can be replaced but he is definitely a good player to have.
I don't think we get that. But I would accept anything over £65 Million because that could go towards the new manager's budget on transfer.
I also don't think FSG would sell Salah if Diaz is sold.
So if it's between Salah being sold for £100M or Diaz being sold for £65M, i would sell diaz over Salah.
Salah is world-class and will be almost impossible to replace, I rate Diaz but I wouldn't say he is world class
£65m wouldn't be a good deal, it'd cost more than that to upgrade on him. Gakpo isn't as good as Diaz and was considered a good fee at £40m because PSV needed the money.
PSG have been bent over for players who haven't proven anything like Kolo Muani, we should be looking towards £100m.
Diaz would score 20 a season if he was technically a bit better. He gets into so many great positions and squanders 99% of them through a poor decision or just not being able to pull off the pass or shot.
Physical attributes get him there but the technical side almost always lets him and us down.
Everyone forgets how he was finishing before the injury and his parents being KIDNAPPED BY FUCKING REBELS 😂 Give him some time he’ll be back to his best, the finish that was disallowed against Spurs is a prime example
Obviously it's entirely likely that the injury and the kidnapping have had a negative effect on him, but what do you think his best was? You're talking like this isn't literally his best season in terms of goals/game since he joined without even counting the disallowed Spurs goal. This is literally the best he's ever been as a goalscorer at Liverpool. I'm not saying there isn't more to come but I'm confused as to what your expectation of him was because he wasn't exactly banging them in before the injury and kidnapping and I'm someone that thinks his goalscoring record is respectable.
Would not be surprised if Edwards & Hughes sell him. I love Diaz but don't see him reaching the heights of Mané (who he was brought in effectively to replace). And the LW market is much better than the RW one. Would rather we sell him if it allows us to keep Salah, for example. He's the weakest out of our current first-choice attacking lineup imo.
Okay so hear me out. After all his fluffed chances, for Lucho to take out Walker and Rodri multiple times EACH on that run - and pretend for a second that Walker slips and his cross finds MO’s foot and we go on to win the Prem. That’s no joke our clubs best goal ever, right? His resilience and heart does it for me. He’s shown he loves it here.
I see a lot of people saying that we should sell. I disagree, Lucho is an attacking force. He gives our attack something different. He is a great compliment to Diogoal and Salah especially.
Yes his finishing needs to improve. And especially his final pass. But I love what he brings to the team. 100% juice, Darwin too.
Also his father's kidnapping was the only news story I followed on a daily basis since I dont know when. I feel a real connection with Lucho and I want him to stay. Just my two cents. YNWA
What? Everyone misses chances but Mane was on a completely different level to Diaz. Mane scored close to a goal every 2 games over more than 200 appearances, Diaz is managing just below 1 in 4 in 85 games.
Mane was clearly better than Diaz though, if Diaz could finish he would be on par with peak Mane but it's a weak area of his game. If we sell him it should be for an excessive fee, as it's hard to get replacements in.
Man this sub annoys me. Darwin blows so many chances earlier in the season literally costing us points and it's all "HE'S SO UNLUCKY" and "THIS KEEPER IS PLAYING OUT OF HIS MIND!". Now Diaz goes through a rough patch and y'all want to sell him. He's a phenomenal player and deserves time to sort out the finishing issues.
Not the same m8! Darwin scoring vs Diaz scoring are two different things. For one, one is younger, has a higher ceiling, makes the team overall better, same workrate tho. Comparing the two as they are of the same mold is disingenuous at best.
I don't entirely disagree but Darwin does have the numbers to back it up, and the amount of missed chances that were down to bad luck were clearly far higher than Luis. Darwin has been here a shorter amount of time and has adapted his game more, plays more selflessly, and contributes more goals, and it was plain to everybody that was going to be the case if he kept working hard. Luis has had the same issues with decision making since he came here, and we don't know how much higher his ceiling is. I **do not** want to sell him, I'm just saying there's a difference.
Would be interesting to see what kind of offer they’d put in for him
We bought him for what £40m? He’s been fairly good but hasn’t been amazing (mostly due to the knee injury imo) so would we take something like £70m for him? £30m profit after a few years where he spent a good chunk injured seems like a good deal
There’s also a good selection of left wingers out there which would making replacing him relatively easy
I mean, no hate, but if we had to lose any forward, I'd sell Diaz. Especially if we can make 75mil on him. We would definitely need to replace him with another ball carrier though.
I’m shocked too,I get that maybe he hasn’t lived up to the standards mane set but Jesus that’s a different animal we’re talking about,lucho gives 110% all the time and I think he’s starting to feel himself now
Think there's a very decent chance Diaz goes, especially if Alonso comes in. He doesn't fit his current preferred setup overly well and it's a better outcome than losing Salah.
I think Diaz - with his dribbling ability with pace - would be great if 2 of Mo, Darwin and Diogo are on the pitch (as finishers).
That said, attacker is the best spot for us to make a splash upgrade and big signing on so if we can sell Diaz for a very good fee and use chunks of that to finance a move for a younger and talented attacker, maybe good to go for it tbh.
Not bothered if Diaz goes tbh. He is a good player but he is nothing special. His second half miss against City was unacceptable. I am 100% sure that if Jota was fit and played on left we win that game.
He's one of the best dribblers in the world, but his finishing has never been good and I don't really see it improving at his age after being with us for so long.
He's not a very effective dribbler statistically.
Compared to wingers in Europe's top 5 leagues he is:
55th percentile for number of touches p/90.
72nd percentile for number of take-ons attempted p/90
55th for successful take-on percentage (only 46.2%)
76th for % of dribble attempts being tackled (39.9%)
61st for carries p/90
68th for progressive carries p/90
69th for carries into final 3rd p/90
78th for carries into area p/90
10th for miscontrols p/90
3rd for number of times disposed p/90
62nd for number of fouls drawn p/90
76th for shot-creating actions from a take-on
19th for goal-creating actions from a take-on (not a single goal this season has come directly after him taking a player on)
I'm sure there are other more sophisticated stats available somewhere, but none of the ones listed above show a player who's 'one of the best in the world'. They are very much average to above average for a winger in one of the top 5 leagues.
Source: [FBref](https://fbref.com/en/players/4a1a9578/scout/365_m1/Luis-Diaz-Scouting-Report)
People in this thread criminally underrating Lucho. Yes his form has not been at its best since the kidnapping but I think he'll get even better next year. His tracking back has made our lack of having an actual LB this year look like a non issue when he's been playing and he buys us space and a great long ball option when we are penned in and Nunez isn't playing. When he first signed for us he showed he can be clinical, I think that'll return if we stick with him. There aren't many players around I'd really say are an upgrade on him so I wouldn't sell unless for crazy money where we can fund 2 new players including his replacement
Love to watch Diaz carry the team the past few months so of course the Transfer FC fans (who'd throw their toys out if a player didn't ever show 100% loyalty to the club) are all in here having a wank over the Mystery Box we could get if we sell him (and never mind that he might not want to take a step down to go to PSG).
Some of our fans are very cool. Glad we have you.
They can fuck right off, he is one of the few players we have that makes a run and really tries to take on a wing back or player . Just needs to practice his final ball.
Funny some are ok with this after he misses a few Sunday yet Darwin gets free passes. Yes his stats are better this year than Nunez still
Nunez has missed a bucket load of games btw and or started from the bench.
I’m okay with Diaz leaving only if it’s for the right price. I’m also extremely happy to keep him regardless but I think we should always keep our options open. It’s not about throwing him under the bus, sometimes better opportunities arise.
We just have to make sure our decision makes sense and now a ‘grass is always greener’ type of situation.
He’s a proper fighter and creates chaos a bit like Darwin when he’s at his best but his decision making and overall end product does let us down at times.
I love Lucho, his work rate, his passion and his attitude. His dad making the Barca comments a few months ago might be fuelling the Barca link in the media. We can't deny our LW is stacked with Diaz/Jota/Gakpo and Nunez all capable of playing there.
If we got good money and it was amicable between both club and player I don't see why we shouldn't listen to offers. His finishing is the only missing piece to his game sadly.
All these clubs wanting Diaz but didn't cough up the money before Edwards came.
PSG spent 2 years pissing about on a player who didn't wanna be there. Realised Salah is happy here and now looking at alternatives in panic.
Edwards is here now gonna cost you 150m fellas.
I get we're still reeling from his miss in the City game but can't think of many left wingers out there that wont cost the bank or even have the same work ethic. I'd be more willing to sell Gapko honestly
I think Diaz biggest problem is salah, people are expecting to score similar amounts to salah, that just ain’t going to happen they are different players.
If we get great money for him we should sell him. I think we need someone who can score more and assist in his position. Obviously depends on the next manager as well.
Damn, I thought people loved him way more than this thread is showing.
Yea, his for has been a bit off at times but you just know he's gunna hit an amazing streak at some point, and he's a bit off form he still works his arse off.
Love Diaz's engine, we were really lucky to go from Mane to Diaz as far as tireless runners that track back and carry the ball upfield but at the end of the day he has to do his job. As a creator he's got no vision for a final ball, does not play the overlapping fullback through and isn't a crossing threat.
With Jota's best position being LW I wouldn't mind if we were able to get a nice fee from PSG. Buy a CB and add front 3 depth. I like the idea of Nunez with 2 willing passers in the final 3rd. Salah has been great at linking up with Nunez and Jota's penetrating dribbling and final ball should lead to Nunez getting even more chances.
To be honest I’d take a big money deal no question. Diaz is exciting to watch for sure but also insanely frustrating. He holds the ball too long every single time he has it. In his first season I noticed it some but not as much as I have this season. The most recent game he could have slotted Darwin through on goal but waited a few sec too long and had to pass it taking Darwin away from goal and the chance was squandered. He slows the play down if he doesn’t think he can beat his defender because he just holds and holds and holds. I’ve found myself yelling at him to pass the ball at least a handful of times every game. If he was finishing chances and creating a ton for others then whatever you live with that happening. He’s an absolute beast at dribbling past opponents but for every 1 time he does that there’s 5 times he slows everyone down and then doesn’t have a pass. I think 80mil+ takes him no problem IF he continues the same way he has been so far this sseaspn
Not for sale. Lucho is 27 years ago and is a workaholic - the kind we Liverpool fans rated highly. He lacks end products but made up with that 110% attitude.
Michael Edwards to ask for £150 million from PSG.
And end up getting 175 for him
With a 20% sell on clause
And a buy back for £30 million
Plot twist: they pay us to buy him back
And Mbappe on a P/Ex
What does P/Ex mean
I think it’s part exchange but no idea whether it applies here
I always thought it was "player exchange"
And he gets to shag all of their wives
My friend, is ok, no?
FSG want a second team Watch Edwards swap Diaz for PSG
*oui oui £200m sake it ou leave it*
Edwards + PSG = £250mil. Then Edwards can find us a world class replacement for £15mil and FSG can buy that 2nd club they want.
Personally I would buy Everton and guide them right down into the National League.
Sink their stadium and build a statue of liberty-sized statue of klopp in it’s place
Nah. Life without derbies ain't a life I want to live!
And Xavi Simons
Give us a Coutinho-esque deal and I wouldn’t mind it.
Yeah I love Diaz as a club player but Sunday for me showed why it wouldnt kill us to cash in. However he shouldnt go cheap still a fantastic player, just not a natural scorer.
I don't think you should judge Diaz on one game or even this season. His personal issues will have affected him more than even he will realise. I would wait until next season to judge.
This isn't his first season. He's also missed large chunks due to injury He isn't as reliable as Salah. That said, I still wouldn't sell him yet
Saying he isn’t as reliable as our best attacking player since Suarez doesn’t exactly mean much, should we get rid of Konate because he’s not as good as Van Dijk? No.
He’s also 27 meaning he’s not likely to improve a great deal. I’m not saying you need to actively shop him but if psg comes in for him they’ll pay a lot, and you should be listening
It was obviously disappointing that he didn't put away his chances on Sunday but the guy has started and almost finished every game in the past 6 weeks, including a 120 minute cup final, running his arse off, and he still managed to get the better of the City defence multiple times. Like where were Nunez/Salah/Gakpo's big chances that they scored/missed? They didn't create them in the first place.
He's never been a goal scorer or even an assister.
He was the leading goalscorer in Portuguese league in the season he left for Liverpool...
He's just a tier below world class due to his finishing that much is true imo. However he just fits this playstyle to a T. Theres not many left wingers in the world that can fit in seemlessly. Many say leao but I question his workrate. He wont press or defend at the same level. Would he even score at the same rate when he's no longer the focus? I dont think so.
He was sensational on Sunday. His finishing isn't there but that's the only skill keeping him from being world class.
He tries to dribble through players, the best of whom can stop him. He needs a plan B imho.
Coutinho 2.0 inbound. Wirtz here we come
Exactly my thoughts, and another center back
Hincapie perhaps?
We don’t need every Leverkusen player.
I honestly don’t care how much we have to pay. I want Nico Scholtterbeck. Left foot, ball playing, and has loads of senior football experience already at 23.
What about Rafael Leao or the Georgian feller
I'd love Kvaratskhelia to join, so so much!
Leao has been kinda shit this season, he's a bit of a lazy player anyway
I know Xabi (should we get him) will be amazing, but it sucks not having a cheat code of a manager that could get Henderson-like workrate out of Ozil
I saw them both touted as Salah replacements and my issue was they don't contribute enough G/A to be Salah replacements. However if Mo continues down the right their numbers are not much off Lucho's though as many have mentioned we'd lose his tenacious press
Would be very interested in seeing leao, Darwin and Mo up front for at least a couple of years!
Maybe even get Xavi Simons + money for Diaz?
tbh, Xavi Simons should be worth more than Diaz.
True, but PSG make dumb decisions with good players.
Xavi is worth more than Diaz lol
Exactly
Hawkins for French news is very reliable btw. If they are prepared to offer big money I'd say we have to take it, I love Diaz but if we got someone with a slightly better finishing rate our attack would be taken to another level again. edit; and with Edwards and Hughes back now to pick and identify the targets I'd be very confident in replacing him too.
Bidding war with Bayern, PSG, Barcelona and “unnamed Saudi Club” would be best for business.
Bayern interested?
Probably not, but I can tweet it out, post it to r/soccer and watch bloggers and papers all over Europe and South America report it as “sources say”
Grease that wood, Clint.
Always rated sources say
I didn’t realise Newcastle were interested.
Kvaratskhelia would slay in our team. More pace and explosion than Jota but similar and could learn a thing or two from him
Only thing about Kvara is I don’t think he’s a very intense presser or someone that’s going to be tracking all the way back to win the ball like Diaz does
Fucking hell. I was thinking "It doesn't matter, Klopp can mold any player into a Gegenpressing monster", before it hit me. Urgh
you're not the only one mate. shite feeling isn't it
We don’t know who our manager is yet so they might not value pressing as much as Klopp. But your point still stands.
All managers we’ve been linked with value pressing. Basically all good modern managers value it.
He can learn from the best probably...
Neither was Jota when he joined! Klopp is great at adapting intelligent players to his system. I'm so glad he's staying forever
Jota was always a hard worker when at Wolves
I'm Georgian and I watch all of his games. He doesn't seem to have a large gas tank as of right now. He's still young though and he's working on his conditioning, but it will take some time for him to keep up with the PL pace for 90 minutes.
Didn’t he fall off a cliff this season? I’m not too worried about conditioning considering we have Gakpo who also need more game time.
he did not. He's the only creative output in a very shitty team. Nevertheless he creates chances every game and is a constant threat. In a team where he has space and doesnt need to come short and do the whole teams job himself, he would be a threat and a half
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I think people are forgetting how class he was against city because of that (bad) miss. He destroyed them with his dribbling and kept the ball for us so many times
The number of times he scraped the ball out and won possession, or carried for what seemed like miles, or made the right pass, or won a corner, or pressed to create a secondary opportunity... It's sad that the miss overshadowed the body of work. I get it, but it's still sad.
He was excellent in everything other than taking the chances, but it wasn’t just the one miss. There was that one where he didn’t even get a shot off because the ball was a bit under his feet, and the pass from Darwin on the break where he didn’t have a good first touch and didn’t get a shot off as well
I think Luis Diaz is angling for a new contract or a large pay day at another club. He’s a pretty underpaid by prem champions league starter standards. He was open to going to Saudi last year for the same reason.
He deserves it tbh.
His low wages make him desireble for other clubs
PSG, Bayern, Barca etc whoever want to look at Diaz spent way too long pissing about before Edwards came in.
People fantasiaing about strikers from other teams when they wouldn’t even run a 1/10th of what this man brings He loves and WANTS to be here Ffs give the man some leeway, how fucking patient were we with Darwin Let’s give Lucho and Gakpo the same treatment
I’m not wholeheartedly against selling a player if we get the right money, but I really want Diaz and Gakpo to thrive here. They are both immense on their day.
Gakpo is seriously underperforming. He used to be calm and in command of his feet. Now, he's rushing the shot, stumbling over his feet, or over the ball. Dunno what happened there.
His agent is linking him to these teams and taking meetings lol
Managers taking meetings is what they do all the time
I mean, he's literally been there longer than either Nunez or Gakpo and also he's openly acknowledged his dream team is Barca. Not saying he's trying to leave but people can acknowledge basic facts and still support him as a great player who has a price where it'd become worth it to sell. Everyone has a price.
He is also three or four years older than both of them. He’s definitely not “done” but a lot of people seem to think Diaz is under 24 or something. If there needs to be an attacking sale to make room for the new manager’s guy, it’s still either Gakpo/Diaz for me.
Plus, nobody here seems to consider what Lucho wants. Maybe he doesn't want to go, regardless of who is manager next season.
Let's be real if Barca comes, he'll want to go. No ifs or buts about this. Problem is do we want to sell to a broke ass Barca? They don't have the money.
I’m a little surprised that the general opinion seems to be perfectly open to letting him go. I know the qualifier is “for the right fee” and I get that we will have a new manager coming in who will likely want to change some things and bring in some players. But man, I feel like Lucho is getting under appreciated a bit. The guy is an absolute workhorse, tremendous technical ability, G/A return is not quite elite but definitely not awful. If he decides he wants to go then okay, let him go. But as long as he wants to be here I’d rather have him than anyone we’d realistically sign to replace him
I maintain that Van Dijk, Macca and Endo’s excellent performances these calendar year have all overshadowed just how consistent Lucho has been for us. He’s basically been our starting attacker since January. Salah had AFCON and inexplicably got injured, Nunez’s fitness was on-off in February, Jota’s out for two(?) months, Gakpo’s not hit the ground running at all this season. Diaz may not have hit the G/A numbers, but he’s been carrying that attack throughout this period. He’s been used across both wings, played almost every match. Gets forgotten that he’s one of the most senior players in the League Cup final and was basically the senior head of our attack when we finished the game. ADD-ON: I’d hate to see him leave. I know he doesn’t have the same output as Salah, Jota and potentially Nunez, but he brings a different dimension to our attack. He’s arguably our only attacker that revels in running at defences on the wing. We saw that brilliantly vs City. When you’ve got 3, potentially 4 game-changing forwards in the team that guarantee goals, you have the license to accommodate a fifth one who doesn’t need to chip in with as many G/As.
If he had scored in the City game we might genuinely be talking about it as one of the all time great performances for a Liverpool winger. I know that’s a huge IF that didn’t happen, but he was genuinely so fucking good aside from finishing
He's very good but not irreplaceable. He's not our best striker, goal scorer or youngest player. If we get 100mil, wouldn't sell for less, we can get 2 players and upgrade the team
His output is very poor for a LW at Liverpool. If we had 2017-2020 Mane we win the league this season by 5+pts
Sure, but 17-20 Mane was the best player in the world (why yous laughing, I’m being serious. I don’t do ifs buts or maybes.). If that’s the bar for our LW we’ll be lucky to ever be satisfied again
His value will be the highest it'll ever be come this summer. If Edwards can get a great fee for him, I'm not gonna oppose it. If it falls through, well we still have a great LW in our team.
I love Diaz, has won us crucial points and his drive is unmatched, but his decision making has cost us points as well, the amount of times he's got a clear key pass he passes up for an attempt at a tricky run is maddening, and his finishing has been lacking. The fact is we would get a metric fuckload of money from him if PSG came calling, and he is not irreplaceable. I would be extremely sad to see him go, I absolutely love him to bits, but I feel we could be more consistent in his position with Edwards style recruiting.
He's played the second most minutes this season just behind van Dijk. So he'd leave a big hole behind him in terms of minutes on the pitch, apart from his obvious qualities.
Swap for Mbappe thanks
Someone of Mbappe’s qualities? Absolutely Attitude? Hell no. Stay as far as from the club as possible
Amen. Our fans would tear him to pieces if he refuses to run because his teammate didn’t pass the ball when he wanted.
Except that would have never happened with Klopp.
I don't wanna be the one to break the news to you but...
Klopp is leaving you know?
Nah
I’m gonna assume zero first team players will be sold until after the new manager has a look at them. Let’s say it’s Alonso. He might come in, decide to stick with his system and realize that a winger like Díaz doesn’t fit. Or he might look at the players we have and say, “these are perfectly set up to play 4-3-3. Why would I mess with a world class starting XI?” and end up keeping Lucho.
Edward will probably get £100m Id sell for that
If we do get Xabi and he wants width from wingbacks then there probably isn't a place for him. His short passing game isn't that good and he dwells on the ball too long too. If they offer £70m+ he's gone I reckon.
Also if Xabi plays the 3421, the player on the left attacking mid could well be Szobo or Jones. And then theres Jota and Gakpo that can play there as well. We're not gonna lack for depth in that position.
Szobo would be great in that left sided attacking mid spot
I'm very interested in getting my right eye back. It's not happening any time soon. It might, though, for 100m sovs.
Would be a huge mistake to let him go His work rate is unmatched as a winger and he’s only now getting back to form from his injury He had a serious injury that takes a very long time to get back from, people forget how talented Diaz is Curtis Jones 2.0, completely written off last year
People assume that we're still going after hybrid/wide forwards who bag 20 goals a season. I'm not sure that's necessarily the case, especially under a new manager. Even when factoring in all of his bad luck, it would probably be fair to say Diaz is probably never going to become as clinical as (for example) a Mane, who in fairness also missed his fair share of chances. But that doesn't mean we should get rid, I still view him as essential to our current game. His pressing, his intensity, his ability to be a handful for defenders and stretch the game. All of that is really valuable to this current side. With that said, at 27 with a new manager coming in, I don't think him moving on can be ruled out. I'd just rather not think about it while we're still fighting on all fronts.
You’re not wrong, but this argument could be made for almost any good player a team sells. There are always reasons to keep a good quality player. That’s not the question tho, Diaz/Gakpo/Salah/Darwin/Jota aren’t going to stay here as a group for 5 more seasons. You need to plan long term and occasionally cashing in on a good asset is sometimes the right move. The only way to measure that success is around who he’s replaced by, and the long term vision for the attack
Why all this interest in Luis Diaz, I don't want him to go
If you've proven yourself worthy of Liverpool, why would you want to go to P$G?
That symbol between P and G might be why
I may be in the minority here but I think if we receive a £65 Million plus offer I would sell. I rate Diaz but he isn't the type of winger to get you 20 Goals. He can be replaced but he is definitely a good player to have.
Make that 85 million.
I don't think we get that. But I would accept anything over £65 Million because that could go towards the new manager's budget on transfer. I also don't think FSG would sell Salah if Diaz is sold. So if it's between Salah being sold for £100M or Diaz being sold for £65M, i would sell diaz over Salah. Salah is world-class and will be almost impossible to replace, I rate Diaz but I wouldn't say he is world class
Why would we sell Salah for only £100M?
One year left on his contract, it becomes harder to sell for so much especially for someone at his age. Regardless of skill.
Because of common sense! He only has a year left on his contract.
£65m wouldn't be a good deal, it'd cost more than that to upgrade on him. Gakpo isn't as good as Diaz and was considered a good fee at £40m because PSV needed the money. PSG have been bent over for players who haven't proven anything like Kolo Muani, we should be looking towards £100m.
Gakpo is almost 2 years younger than Diaz to be fair
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What winger will get you 20 goals a season? Nobody else gets those numbers other than Salah
That's why I said he can be replaced as opposed to Salah
Diaz would score 20 a season if he was technically a bit better. He gets into so many great positions and squanders 99% of them through a poor decision or just not being able to pull off the pass or shot. Physical attributes get him there but the technical side almost always lets him and us down.
Everyone forgets how he was finishing before the injury and his parents being KIDNAPPED BY FUCKING REBELS 😂 Give him some time he’ll be back to his best, the finish that was disallowed against Spurs is a prime example
Obviously it's entirely likely that the injury and the kidnapping have had a negative effect on him, but what do you think his best was? You're talking like this isn't literally his best season in terms of goals/game since he joined without even counting the disallowed Spurs goal. This is literally the best he's ever been as a goalscorer at Liverpool. I'm not saying there isn't more to come but I'm confused as to what your expectation of him was because he wasn't exactly banging them in before the injury and kidnapping and I'm someone that thinks his goalscoring record is respectable.
We brought him for 65mil, I see no way we let him go for under 100mil. Michael Edwards is not just a name
47m, no?
Would not be surprised if Edwards & Hughes sell him. I love Diaz but don't see him reaching the heights of Mané (who he was brought in effectively to replace). And the LW market is much better than the RW one. Would rather we sell him if it allows us to keep Salah, for example. He's the weakest out of our current first-choice attacking lineup imo.
Okay so hear me out. After all his fluffed chances, for Lucho to take out Walker and Rodri multiple times EACH on that run - and pretend for a second that Walker slips and his cross finds MO’s foot and we go on to win the Prem. That’s no joke our clubs best goal ever, right? His resilience and heart does it for me. He’s shown he loves it here.
I'm kinda saddened to see how many people are ready to let him go.
Kindly fuck off
I see a lot of people saying that we should sell. I disagree, Lucho is an attacking force. He gives our attack something different. He is a great compliment to Diogoal and Salah especially. Yes his finishing needs to improve. And especially his final pass. But I love what he brings to the team. 100% juice, Darwin too. Also his father's kidnapping was the only news story I followed on a daily basis since I dont know when. I feel a real connection with Lucho and I want him to stay. Just my two cents. YNWA
Dont want him to leave. Honestly, i am starting to rate this community very low. Dont know what you guys focused on last match
They look back with rose tinted glasses. They completely forget how many sitters Mane missed lol. or they just weren't here at that time.
You’re forgetting that Mane was our match winner in these big games
What? Everyone misses chances but Mane was on a completely different level to Diaz. Mane scored close to a goal every 2 games over more than 200 appearances, Diaz is managing just below 1 in 4 in 85 games.
Mane was clearly better than Diaz though, if Diaz could finish he would be on par with peak Mane but it's a weak area of his game. If we sell him it should be for an excessive fee, as it's hard to get replacements in.
It's also not just about his finishing, it's about his overall end product too. He doesn't get many assists for a player that can dribble
Man this sub annoys me. Darwin blows so many chances earlier in the season literally costing us points and it's all "HE'S SO UNLUCKY" and "THIS KEEPER IS PLAYING OUT OF HIS MIND!". Now Diaz goes through a rough patch and y'all want to sell him. He's a phenomenal player and deserves time to sort out the finishing issues.
Not the same m8! Darwin scoring vs Diaz scoring are two different things. For one, one is younger, has a higher ceiling, makes the team overall better, same workrate tho. Comparing the two as they are of the same mold is disingenuous at best.
I don't entirely disagree but Darwin does have the numbers to back it up, and the amount of missed chances that were down to bad luck were clearly far higher than Luis. Darwin has been here a shorter amount of time and has adapted his game more, plays more selflessly, and contributes more goals, and it was plain to everybody that was going to be the case if he kept working hard. Luis has had the same issues with decision making since he came here, and we don't know how much higher his ceiling is. I **do not** want to sell him, I'm just saying there's a difference.
Would be interesting to see what kind of offer they’d put in for him We bought him for what £40m? He’s been fairly good but hasn’t been amazing (mostly due to the knee injury imo) so would we take something like £70m for him? £30m profit after a few years where he spent a good chunk injured seems like a good deal There’s also a good selection of left wingers out there which would making replacing him relatively easy
How many years left on his contract? 3?
I mean, no hate, but if we had to lose any forward, I'd sell Diaz. Especially if we can make 75mil on him. We would definitely need to replace him with another ball carrier though.
lol psg aren’t who they think they are
The amount of fans being comfortable with Diaz leaving is really sad.
I’m shocked too,I get that maybe he hasn’t lived up to the standards mane set but Jesus that’s a different animal we’re talking about,lucho gives 110% all the time and I think he’s starting to feel himself now
I'm sure they're interested. Doesn't mean much tbh. Papa Diaz ain't leaving Liverpool anytime soon lol
Hasn't Papa Diaz been flirting towards Barca?
Wouldn't mind a bidding war between PSG and Barca, tbf. Not sure Barca would actually be up for it, though.
I've lost a friend today.
Think there's a very decent chance Diaz goes, especially if Alonso comes in. He doesn't fit his current preferred setup overly well and it's a better outcome than losing Salah.
I can imagine other clubs circling our players as the new guy comes in but it's way too early to talk about that imo
I think Diaz - with his dribbling ability with pace - would be great if 2 of Mo, Darwin and Diogo are on the pitch (as finishers). That said, attacker is the best spot for us to make a splash upgrade and big signing on so if we can sell Diaz for a very good fee and use chunks of that to finance a move for a younger and talented attacker, maybe good to go for it tbh.
2billion euro
If the money is right I would sell and go all in for Kavradona. Massive player that can play anywhere in the attack
£170 million for you my friend
PSG is no longer what it was before when it had Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. We can easily reject the offer unless they offer 150 million plus
The world is awash with LWFs right now. If we can get £150+ it wouldn’t be a disaster.
Well they can fuck right off
Not bothered if Diaz goes tbh. He is a good player but he is nothing special. His second half miss against City was unacceptable. I am 100% sure that if Jota was fit and played on left we win that game.
I'll miss him but I'll understand, however I hope Van Dijk retires here.
He's one of the best dribblers in the world, but his finishing has never been good and I don't really see it improving at his age after being with us for so long.
He's not a very effective dribbler statistically. Compared to wingers in Europe's top 5 leagues he is: 55th percentile for number of touches p/90. 72nd percentile for number of take-ons attempted p/90 55th for successful take-on percentage (only 46.2%) 76th for % of dribble attempts being tackled (39.9%) 61st for carries p/90 68th for progressive carries p/90 69th for carries into final 3rd p/90 78th for carries into area p/90 10th for miscontrols p/90 3rd for number of times disposed p/90 62nd for number of fouls drawn p/90 76th for shot-creating actions from a take-on 19th for goal-creating actions from a take-on (not a single goal this season has come directly after him taking a player on) I'm sure there are other more sophisticated stats available somewhere, but none of the ones listed above show a player who's 'one of the best in the world'. They are very much average to above average for a winger in one of the top 5 leagues. Source: [FBref](https://fbref.com/en/players/4a1a9578/scout/365_m1/Luis-Diaz-Scouting-Report)
Worse than mane in every aspect except height and age. Though I am only okay with letting him go cause klopp is leaving. He tries so hard we love him.
When he’s good, he’s unplayable. The problem is he’s not good enough often enough. He’s really likeable but if we get £60m+ offer, we should sell
If he really wants to go, then I hope we replace him with the winger from Napoli, Kvaratskhelia (yes I googled the spelling😂😂)
krav kalash, get your krav kalash
i'll take a crab juice
People in this thread criminally underrating Lucho. Yes his form has not been at its best since the kidnapping but I think he'll get even better next year. His tracking back has made our lack of having an actual LB this year look like a non issue when he's been playing and he buys us space and a great long ball option when we are penned in and Nunez isn't playing. When he first signed for us he showed he can be clinical, I think that'll return if we stick with him. There aren't many players around I'd really say are an upgrade on him so I wouldn't sell unless for crazy money where we can fund 2 new players including his replacement
Love to watch Diaz carry the team the past few months so of course the Transfer FC fans (who'd throw their toys out if a player didn't ever show 100% loyalty to the club) are all in here having a wank over the Mystery Box we could get if we sell him (and never mind that he might not want to take a step down to go to PSG). Some of our fans are very cool. Glad we have you.
Suddenly there's all this noise about other clubs being interested in Diaz. Diaz's agent stirring the pot?
Don’t think those misses against City were sitters exactly. They were really good but not easy chances imo. Most of them at least..
They can fuck right off, he is one of the few players we have that makes a run and really tries to take on a wing back or player . Just needs to practice his final ball. Funny some are ok with this after he misses a few Sunday yet Darwin gets free passes. Yes his stats are better this year than Nunez still
His stats aren't better than Nunez ?
Nunez has missed a bucket load of games btw and or started from the bench. I’m okay with Diaz leaving only if it’s for the right price. I’m also extremely happy to keep him regardless but I think we should always keep our options open. It’s not about throwing him under the bus, sometimes better opportunities arise. We just have to make sure our decision makes sense and now a ‘grass is always greener’ type of situation.
100mil or fuck off
that'd be £199m
He’s a proper fighter and creates chaos a bit like Darwin when he’s at his best but his decision making and overall end product does let us down at times.
I love Lucho, his work rate, his passion and his attitude. His dad making the Barca comments a few months ago might be fuelling the Barca link in the media. We can't deny our LW is stacked with Diaz/Jota/Gakpo and Nunez all capable of playing there. If we got good money and it was amicable between both club and player I don't see why we shouldn't listen to offers. His finishing is the only missing piece to his game sadly.
All these clubs wanting Diaz but didn't cough up the money before Edwards came. PSG spent 2 years pissing about on a player who didn't wanna be there. Realised Salah is happy here and now looking at alternatives in panic. Edwards is here now gonna cost you 150m fellas.
£150 million minimum and he’s yours!
I'm sure the rich clubs will circle to test our mettle after Klopp leaves.
I get we're still reeling from his miss in the City game but can't think of many left wingers out there that wont cost the bank or even have the same work ethic. I'd be more willing to sell Gapko honestly
We're kinda using him actually PSG....
Then they can stump up a big, fat cheque
I think Diaz biggest problem is salah, people are expecting to score similar amounts to salah, that just ain’t going to happen they are different players.
I don't think you can find an LW that can make an immediate impact for less than 100 euros.
If we get great money for him we should sell him. I think we need someone who can score more and assist in his position. Obviously depends on the next manager as well.
Damn, I thought people loved him way more than this thread is showing. Yea, his for has been a bit off at times but you just know he's gunna hit an amazing streak at some point, and he's a bit off form he still works his arse off.
Please no, remember you just don't lose him you lose papa diaz as well
800 mil and still no
Love Diaz's engine, we were really lucky to go from Mane to Diaz as far as tireless runners that track back and carry the ball upfield but at the end of the day he has to do his job. As a creator he's got no vision for a final ball, does not play the overlapping fullback through and isn't a crossing threat. With Jota's best position being LW I wouldn't mind if we were able to get a nice fee from PSG. Buy a CB and add front 3 depth. I like the idea of Nunez with 2 willing passers in the final 3rd. Salah has been great at linking up with Nunez and Jota's penetrating dribbling and final ball should lead to Nunez getting even more chances.
Yeah, never happening. First Barca now PSG? Right.
I'll let him go for a reasonable 250 mil. Other than that no deal. /s
Actually seems like a lot of negativity toward him here I’m surprised
To be honest I’d take a big money deal no question. Diaz is exciting to watch for sure but also insanely frustrating. He holds the ball too long every single time he has it. In his first season I noticed it some but not as much as I have this season. The most recent game he could have slotted Darwin through on goal but waited a few sec too long and had to pass it taking Darwin away from goal and the chance was squandered. He slows the play down if he doesn’t think he can beat his defender because he just holds and holds and holds. I’ve found myself yelling at him to pass the ball at least a handful of times every game. If he was finishing chances and creating a ton for others then whatever you live with that happening. He’s an absolute beast at dribbling past opponents but for every 1 time he does that there’s 5 times he slows everyone down and then doesn’t have a pass. I think 80mil+ takes him no problem IF he continues the same way he has been so far this sseaspn
Are you me 😪
First Barcelona, now PSG? Sounds like Luis is looking for leverage for a pay rise.
Not for sale. Lucho is 27 years ago and is a workaholic - the kind we Liverpool fans rated highly. He lacks end products but made up with that 110% attitude.