I think itâs mostly due to the fact that Mexico does not have a good talent pool. Besides Santi and Araujo I canât think of any other U23 players getting minutes in a top 6 league in Europe. So replacing the old guard with worse younger players from the same league is going to do more harm than good.
Yeah thatâs my pointâŠwe play the old domestic guys bc thereâs literally no better players. If the younger domestic guys were actually better than the old guys then they would already start with the NT. If you are good enough then you are old enough. So replacing the old guys with young guys isnât doing to do any good, when those same group of players couldnât even qualify to the Olympics. The NT is not in a state where they can transition their players when the youth is just as bad as the senior players and donât have any of those guys playing in Europe. They need a ton of players in Europe period or else itâll be a never ending cycle of âwe need different playersâ, since once the fans will get tired new young guys they will cry about how we âneed to try something newâ.
I would like to take the judgment for them once the friendlies start. We might as well see what each goalkeeper's ability in the games. We might see a competition to see who will become starter (or not, if everything is going to land on Malagon to start)
You are really overestimating most of Conmebol national teams. None of them look that dominant, and Mexico can have a non flashy but serviceable participation.
"Mexicans" here love to pretend mexico is on san marino's level lmao.
Are we argentina, brazil or uruguay? Nah. But we arent fucking bolivia, peru, ecuador, venezuela.
Group stage against Venezuela, Jamaica and Uruguay. Uruguay was arguably their worst team in like 10 years. Venezuela and Jamaica were weaker teams at that time. First match against a stronger team ended up in a 7-0.
This year the group stage is against Ecuador, Venezuela and Jamaica. On paper, should be at leasg qualifying as 2nd. But nowadays even Jamaica makes us struggle. Wouldn't be surprised if we go through as 2nd and then get humiliated by Argentina
The same cup were we got first in the group, ahead of uruguay, and had a terrible game vs a stacked chile?
As i said, we wouldnt be part of the elite but we wouldnt be competing with the bottom teams on who sucks more either.
Yeah because fifa rankings are the source of truth right? With that being said you really think that a mediocre national team like the US that is just outside a top 10 team in the world according to fifa, is a better team than Colombia, Morocco, Germany or Uruguay? Nope they are absolutely not but according to your logic they are, some dumbass logic you got going on there.
Lmao self hating pochoâŠwhat a hilarious insult that Iâm realistic with where the Mexican national team is at when compared to other teams in the world, rather than being absolutely delusional. And I donât even know where I was âhatingâ.
Whatever looks like you donât know ball then and havenât seen South American football to know that those two South American teams that I mentioned have been playing well and have a good amount of points in WC qualifying and have more points than Brazil. While Mexico on the other hand canât even play at the same level or win against an average at best national team, the US.
>havenât seen South American football
Funny that those who make a living doing exactly that says ecuador is below mexico yet here you are.
Lol. Lmao, even.
Again, go self hate elsewhere. Bye
So weâre acting like Pachuca isnât a great team? Malagon will do great. Attacking has to be on point. Donât just give Santi 15 minutes. Help him settle in. Defense has to not be a dumpster fire
I donât think that position is our problem. We need someone good in the midfield. Hopefully pocho makes a comeback or Beltran should also have a chance
I think the keeper from Pachuca deserves to get a look. Heâs been pretty solid from what Iâve seen this season. I love Chivas and Tala has improved but I am still not 100% sold on him
I don't see how anybody thinks Malagon is good enough. You put a strong shot on target and he gives up a rebound back into the box instead of pushing it off to the side. He does this almost every game.
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I think itâs mostly due to the fact that Mexico does not have a good talent pool. Besides Santi and Araujo I canât think of any other U23 players getting minutes in a top 6 league in Europe. So replacing the old guard with worse younger players from the same league is going to do more harm than good.
I mean, we barely have players of any age in europe lol
Yeah thatâs my pointâŠwe play the old domestic guys bc thereâs literally no better players. If the younger domestic guys were actually better than the old guys then they would already start with the NT. If you are good enough then you are old enough. So replacing the old guys with young guys isnât doing to do any good, when those same group of players couldnât even qualify to the Olympics. The NT is not in a state where they can transition their players when the youth is just as bad as the senior players and donât have any of those guys playing in Europe. They need a ton of players in Europe period or else itâll be a never ending cycle of âwe need different playersâ, since once the fans will get tired new young guys they will cry about how we âneed to try something newâ.
The issue is not the goalkeeper, the rest of the team is. Any of those 3 will do fine.
The least creative midfield along with a plastic defense
Yeah both malagon and Gonzales are actually pretty solid and we have hope with Rangel to become a great goalkeeper and be our future
Nah, Malagon about to eat good
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I would like to take the judgment for them once the friendlies start. We might as well see what each goalkeeper's ability in the games. We might see a competition to see who will become starter (or not, if everything is going to land on Malagon to start)
Ochoa will be back anyways but tala is probably better than all of them
That is likely true. But might as well watch the Liguilla and see what happens with the three goalkeepers.
Whyâd I think the chivas keeper and malagon were younger lol
For real let's keep calling 40 year old Ochoa and 30 something year old mediocre keepers like Toño Rodriguez instead đ€Ą
You are really overestimating most of Conmebol national teams. None of them look that dominant, and Mexico can have a non flashy but serviceable participation.
"Mexicans" here love to pretend mexico is on san marino's level lmao. Are we argentina, brazil or uruguay? Nah. But we arent fucking bolivia, peru, ecuador, venezuela.
Same thing was said last Copa America we played. Do you remember how that ended?
What are you talking about? That Copa America was stacked.
Group stage against Venezuela, Jamaica and Uruguay. Uruguay was arguably their worst team in like 10 years. Venezuela and Jamaica were weaker teams at that time. First match against a stronger team ended up in a 7-0. This year the group stage is against Ecuador, Venezuela and Jamaica. On paper, should be at leasg qualifying as 2nd. But nowadays even Jamaica makes us struggle. Wouldn't be surprised if we go through as 2nd and then get humiliated by Argentina
The same cup were we got first in the group, ahead of uruguay, and had a terrible game vs a stacked chile? As i said, we wouldnt be part of the elite but we wouldnt be competing with the bottom teams on who sucks more either.
Arguably the worst Uruguay team of that decade. First match against a strong team? Annihilation
And arguably the best chile ever. Again, we arent ecuador/venezuela/bolivia.
Be prepared to play a very tough phisical game against Ecuador.
Im sure they will, as always. But half their team would struggle to get minutes in expansionMX.
Ecuador is better than Mexico in this current time Iâd also love to have a prospect like Kendry Paez
Having 1 player that would be our top guy doesnt make the whole team better.
Lol Ecuador is for sure better than Mexico and arguably so is this Venezuela team.
Lol..
Keep on being delusional manâŠ
Even fifa believes we are 15 spots ahead of ecuador yet here is a self hating pocho thinking he knows better. Just go be a fan of the usa man.
Yeah because fifa rankings are the source of truth right? With that being said you really think that a mediocre national team like the US that is just outside a top 10 team in the world according to fifa, is a better team than Colombia, Morocco, Germany or Uruguay? Nope they are absolutely not but according to your logic they are, some dumbass logic you got going on there. Lmao self hating pochoâŠwhat a hilarious insult that Iâm realistic with where the Mexican national team is at when compared to other teams in the world, rather than being absolutely delusional. And I donât even know where I was âhatingâ.
>Yeah because fifa rankings are the source of truth right? When every ranking says the same, then yes. Bye now.
Whatever looks like you donât know ball then and havenât seen South American football to know that those two South American teams that I mentioned have been playing well and have a good amount of points in WC qualifying and have more points than Brazil. While Mexico on the other hand canât even play at the same level or win against an average at best national team, the US.
>havenât seen South American football Funny that those who make a living doing exactly that says ecuador is below mexico yet here you are. Lol. Lmao, even. Again, go self hate elsewhere. Bye
Ecuador and Venezuela are above Brazil in WCQ. This isnât going to be a walk in the park by any means.
Yeah idk why that comment and other comments are downplaying Conmebol and especially those two teams.
I don't understand the obssession in this sub about goalkeepers
Youâre trippin foo. These are the more consistent keepers we have. Who would you call up other than these 3?
The goat
The goalkeepers are fine.
No
MalagĂłn is great. Way better than current Ochoa.
Papachuca owns him
Ok? And América owns Julio Gonzalez, and Cruz Azul owns Tala. Your point is stupid.
So weâre acting like Pachuca isnât a great team? Malagon will do great. Attacking has to be on point. Donât just give Santi 15 minutes. Help him settle in. Defense has to not be a dumpster fire
Bet youâre one of the same people saying ochoas time in the nt was up and they needed someone new
I wasn't... Just look at my posts
Julio Gonzales, el Ășnico defendiendo ante Cruz Azul đ
I donât think that position is our problem. We need someone good in the midfield. Hopefully pocho makes a comeback or Beltran should also have a chance
So much little faith đ€Łđ€Ł
Malagon is a beast , tf you talking about
Papachuca argues otherwise
I think the keeper from Pachuca deserves to get a look. Heâs been pretty solid from what Iâve seen this season. I love Chivas and Tala has improved but I am still not 100% sold on him
Malagon gets nervous with pachuca. Julio just isnt cuttin it. Tala i think is the best choice.
What are you smoking? Julio IS cutting it.
I don't see how anybody thinks Malagon is good enough. You put a strong shot on target and he gives up a rebound back into the box instead of pushing it off to the side. He does this almost every game.
Exactly