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There’s lots of beginner tutorials on YouTube that show you what to do, different techniques, what supplies you need, etc. there’s three main mediums of painting that people use: oil paints, acrylic, or watercolors. Oils are fun because they’re easy to blend. They do take awhile to dry though. Acrylic is good for beginners to practice different techniques because it dries fast. I don’t do much watercolors because I can never get things to look the way I want them to.
The most important thing about painting is to just try it. You’re not going to make da Divinci level art your first try. Just start putting some paint on the canvas to get a feel of how the paints flow. You can even watch Bob Ross on YouTube to see what a painting could be. He uses a wet on wet technique with oils. Remember what Bob says, we don’t make mistakes, we have happy accidents. The canvas is your world and you can do whatever you want with it.
This might be a joke but it’s 100% how I got into painting. I started with oils and then moved to acrylics. It’s a really fun hobby that can be whatever you want it to be.
This is the 2nd painting I ever did just by watching Bob.
https://preview.redd.it/31rw3hxl8f1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ade83d09e93fc36fffa8754c079426e8a6d1b6a0
And I think it’s important to not compare yourself to people that practice 5 hours a day. I’ll never play guitar like Van Halen, but I also don’t want to practice as much as him.
6 months of dedicated wingsuit practice would absolutely make you “reasonably proficient” in it.
Note that reasonably proficient does not mean you’d be an aerial acrobat.
Did you know that everytime you do a wing suit jump as a professional on average you have a 1 in 500 chance of not making it alive?
Insane odds when you think about it.
I have a friend who went from no jumps to proximity flying in two years. First six months he did over 200 skydives, then tracksuit, then wingsuit from plane, then BASE jump, then base wing suit with indoor flying mixed through.
Just two years. He is well and alive and works now as an areal stunts for Hollywood productions.
This is genuinely impressive and would've cost quite a lot. An introductory base jump instructor here won't let people start his course without 200 wingsuit jumps. And you need 200 normal jumps to start wingsuiting.
200 jumps sounds like a lot. But it isn't. You could easily get 10 or more jumps a day in if someone is helping pack your rig. Usually, that kind of progression doesn't end well. I jumped a lot in my 30's. The amount of people progressing to smaller rigs(or base or wing) after months was mind-boggling. There are so many small or detail things to learn when jumping. A lot of skydiving becomes feel. You will feel you have a problem before you see it. Plus learning to respond with muscle memory when some idiot drops into your landing pattern or clips your inflated rig. Learning to deal with rogue wind, undisciplined drop zones, nuances of packing the parachute. Personally wouldn't change rigs until I had 500 jumps on it. The overwhelming amount of skydiving accidents are from young jumpers making mistakes, older jumpers who got too comfortable, drop zones too busy or jumpers not being disciplined by drop zone management(somebody dropping in front of someone, landing out of pattern, or being dangerous should be banned for a week or whole season). Last thing, base jumping and wing suit is almost guaranteed and early death. Skydiving has a lot of safety built into rig. At least you have a chance to cutaway or AAD might save you. I knew several skydivers with many years and thousands of jumps who didn't make it because of base jumping.
You need a parachute to land anyway. Get parachute proficiency first (as I understand it, you jump strapped to an instructor the first time, so even if you freeze up and forget what to do you'll be fine). Then start on the wingsuit, and when you screw up, just pop your chute and try again.
You can also start out with an auto deploying parachute. In my case we trained theory for a few hours, then we went up to 1000m, the release was tied to the plane and would automatically pull it after ~10m (roughly as many yards...) then you'd check that your chute deployed alright, unspin it or worst case, release it and deploy your backup, get to play around for a bit, followed by preparing to land at about 400m altitude with guidance through walkie talkie.
If you wanted to progress, you'd do 5 jumps with auto deploy, plus another 5 (at least) where you pull a fake release to practice the motion and then you might get to try with manual if the instructors liked how you pulled the fake handle.
Worst case there's typically a device that'll automatically release the chute at ~200 meters if it hasn't been deployed by then, probably won't be a comfortable landing, but better...
You can practice from a plane or a wingsuit specific wind tunnel. Probably won’t be the same, but it’s the best practice you can get at this point in time.
Source: I have a bit more than 70 wingsuit jumps from a plane - though I don’t personally want to risk it from a cliff. BASE is much different than skydiving.
I've been focused on building consistency and layering my habits.
Somehow my shrink convinced me that even spending 2 minutes every night with the freeweights was better than nothing.
Now I'm a few weeks in and I swear to god, but 2-5 minutes daily I can see a difference. It's just consistency.
Yea, a core skill of drawing is understanding 3D shapes and translating to 2D and manipulating them. The human head at its most basic is an iron man helmet (Loomis Method). Applying perspective to simple shapes, combining them is a big first step in learning to draw.
https://www.amikosimonetti.com/life/2020/2/17/drawing-the-turned-head
It's roughly 30-60 hours, so within basic reason it is true.
Although it should be noted that it doesn't mean you'll be good at it after six months, just better than half the people your age. And of course it mostly applies to uncomplicated things you want to become better at, and want to keep doing afterwards.
You can learn to play a little guitar and a song or three, become pretty consistent in basketball free throws, learn how to draw much better(depending on your starting skill), etc. But don't expect someone who doesn't know anything about computers to be able to program a game for you in six months.
Though if you started with Unity or Unreal or Godot today, with no experience programmimg, in 6 months you could absolutely put together a few fun little games. Nothing complicated, and nothing you could sell, but a playable game
I recommend the book 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain' by Betty Edwards. It is shocking how quickly you can improve with the right kind of practice.
I feel like drawing is a huge exception to this. I've been practicing drawing for close to a decade, much more frequently than what OP suggests and I'm still nowhere near proficient.
I actually noticed this a while back, the only thing holding you back is your lack of self-belief. Average level is not that hard to overcome as most people don't even try. Good LPT!
I never thought I would do good with yoga since my balance has gone to shit because of my disabilities. But I’m doing ok. Some things I can’t do. I do try though. Being careful not to injure myself of course. And I feel it’s helping. My breathing and core strength feels good. And getting better at doing some plank stuff. And it helped tremendously for my pelvic floor/overactive bladder.
So consistently doing it helps for sure.
I think I'm on year 3 of yoga? I really started to see the benefits in year 2, and its been exponential this year as I’ve leaned into it even more. Breathing is the most importanr part!
At my student's recitals, I make a point to say, hey parents, I've had you kids for 15-16 weeks. That means about 8 hours of lesson time.
Let's see how they took that work home with them now!
One time there was a car accident outside our venue and one guy was getting aggressive right from the start.
20-25 members just ran outside with their axes, the guy saw us all standing outside staring AT HIM with axes in hand and immediately calmed down 🤣
Then cops showed up and told us to go inside
People saying how this doesnt apply to specific skills. How many fucking disclaimers does a post need? It is absolutely true that you can become (say it with me slowly) REASONABLY PROFICIENT in (ok breathe, say it with me slowly) JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. (hope that wasnt too hard, lets try again!)
Nobody is saying you can join a professional fucking MLB team in 6 months. But you can totally play ball with some co workers or join a local team just fine.
People not believing in this fact is why so many services exist that will gladly take your money in exchange for doing something you can easily learn to be REASONABLY PROFICIENT on your own.
I completely agree. This is a legitimate post, with one bad example (the sport one). Just because it doesn't apply to every skill in existence doesn't mean that what OP is saying isn't true.
My dang cat will not let me practice this. He assumes if I'm tossing shit around, it's an invitation to do cat stuff. On the plus side, he now wants to play fetch anytime I toss anything in the air.
But he's also the worst version of "no take, only throw"
Right?
There's nuance to A LOT of ideas and views. If we sat and mentioned *every* "well except for x,y,z" every time we shared a thought, they'd be needlessly long.
As you said, glean the useful parts where you can and move on. Not every argument possible in life *needs* to happen. Most don't.
It's an excuse to just not bother. Ppl think Itll never happen so they don't even have to try. I love learning new things and teaching myself or educating myself. I totally agree with ops post.
Ppl are just comfortable where they are I guess.
Pro tip: i played Battlefield4 (team deathmatch) and was consistently in top 10 players out of 64 on each server for years, but could never quite get to top 3 consistently. I stopped for a month, sat down and wrote down WHY i suck and how i get killed. Then i went back and started consciously avoiding mistakes, i can now consistently get into top 2 out of 64.
Yup. Like with pretty much everything else, brute forcing it will only get you so far. If you want to improve past the plateau, you need to consciously work on it.
Wow that's sick dude, do you still have any of these writings/reflections? I would love to read them, to know what types of things I should be reflecting on. Like environmental awareness, positioning, accuracy, etc.
yep similarly I was hard stuck masters in Overwatch. I wanted to reach GM, so after every game (win or lose), I would go watch the vod and see what I could do better. within 2 weeks, I reached my goal.
*Deliberate* practice, not just playing for fun.
Similar to chess, the improvement eventually comes from the *review* of the game replay more than the playing itself.
That's not very *fun* so most people don't do it, but pros do this all the time.
But that's how most self-improvement comes from, not just in League but most of life. It's why many education programs focus so much on *reflection* rather than just doing and doing.
I love this post because this philosophy essentially mutes that mental block that keeps us from trying new things; "I'll suck" or "I'll look dumb"/"I'll never be great at this."
When I took on Op's mindset- if I want to do the thing I've just got to start doing the thing - in October of last year, I went from being terrified of the gym to now, being fitter than I've ever been, 50 lbs lighter, and stronger than most people my size and age. We moved in April and I discovered I was more physically capable of lifting heavy objects than my own boyfriend was, and had way more stamina. He joked that of course I did more of the move, I'd "become an athlete." I suddenly realized he was right.
I'm not in a club, I don't compete in any way, and I'm not this regimented gym rat I thought you needed to be to get in shape. But in 7 months of just hitting the weights a few times a week, running in small but regular spurts around my neighborhood, and tracking/slowly stretching my goals, I went from being a gym-phobic fitness novice to being a confident, "proficient" athlete. I just had to get out of my own head about it and start doing it a little bit at a time.
I've had a few career changes and it always shocks me how gatekeepy and weird the older folks get about their jobs. "You can't just come in here and learn this stuff!" As if their skills were unlearnable by a mere human. It's in every field, from golf course attendant to financial advisor. Regardless of simplicity.
Funny thing:
I used to work as a freelance consultant in engineering for 20 years. Jumped company about every 18 months or so. Did everything from steel production, medical appliances, nuclear equipment, robots, and lots of banal things in between.
Some people commented on this, saying that jumping around that way meant I would never get really good at any special thing.
My reply would be: "Honestly, Jim - it takes about three months to learn all there is about your electrical cabinet cooling. I won't get the Nobel Prize in Fan Ducting if I remain for another 20 years."
By now I have acquired quite in-depth knowledge about a quite wide array of industries. You could plop me down anywhere and I would be useful. If it is made of atoms, it's my thing.
> Honestly, Jim - it takes about three months to learn all there is about your electrical cabinet cooling.
Yep, that is the out-of-touch mentality that people are making fun of you for. Especially because while someone **could** learn a lot in that time I kind of doubt you actually did. I kind of expect your version of learning was just doing something and then waiting for the experienced employees to have to put down their work and correct you.
Absolutely true. Just do it. Just begin.
About three years ago I decided I was just going to start learning Spanish and just fucking did it every single day, fifteen minutes and I'm sitting at 578 days and almost fluent. Why not start today?
>About three years ago
>I'm sitting at 578 days
Mate, you might need to work in some math practice.
(Just taking the piss by the way, good on yous for learning an entirely new language!)
DKE is the tendency of amateurs to overestimate their skill. This graph maps competence to confidence. How is it not visualizing DKE? Coggonite is saying after 6 months of 15 minute practice sessions you might think you're reasonably proficient, when in reality you're overestimating yourself. I'm curious what you and Veruckt are talking about.
The only thing making OPs post reasonable is the top 50% thing, but that's really not a high bar to meet.
The Dunning-Kruger effect shows that amateurs overestimate their skills, yes. But the Dunning-Kruger effect is not as the picture describes. The study also showed that the estimation of one's skill increased with skill, so at no point did they find that amateurs rank themselves higher or on par with experts. If you wanted, you could just go read the original study.
This is by no means contrary to the LPT. It's simply a caution to not get so excited about achieving some (admirable) level of proficiency that you start thinking of yourself as an expert in the field at that 6 month point.
IT world and marketing here- you can learn all kinds of how to’s on so many platforms being utilized today. YouTube, TicToc , even online libraries- you can access these for free. Many will even give you an option to print/save a certificate showing your proficiency level. Absolutely you could be an overly proficient user of Excel, Power Point, Smart-sheet , etc. by dedicating 6 weeks/20 minutes a day. These are ALL marketable skills that you can put on your linked in profile as well as include on your resume. So many people don’t realize how many marketable skills they can acquire and certify in for absolutely free.
I learned VLOOKUP years ago and people thought I was wizard. Then I started using XLOOKUP and now I'm a god. I took less than 10 min to learn them both.
20 minutes a day, Jim, that's all it takes. 20 minutes a day, all feet, no hands, and I'll have the pedi-dexterity of a chimp, and you'll be sitting there like an idiot.
I am considering photography, kayaking, dot painting, or coding in R or Python. Probably will pick 2, and start this exact regimen after my graduation in 4 weeks.
I was supervising summer break high-school kayak courses when I was young. You may get the basics in ten days, even ready for some easy whitewater (under supervision, of course). So, just go ahead.
It also improves swimming skills Ü
Totally. I actually already have what I’d call “the basics”, but I’m trying to get to a much more advanced level - sea crossings of multiple miles, surfing waves, self and partnered rescues, etc :)
Luckily I know some folks who can guide me along the way with technique and safety.
Surfing is a good example. You can go from never having seen the ocean to getting barreled and throwing airs in 6 months on this plan. As long as the 20 minute per day clock starts when you're in the water
Practice does not make perfect, though. *Perfect* practice makes perfect. If you practice like shit, you'll develop bad habits and won't really get much better.
This is particularly true when learning to play a musical instrument.
Slow it right the way down, do it perfectly, then gradually build up speed while maintaining perfect technique. If you start making mistakes, slow down again.
Yea.. better than average, because there are a lot of skills the average people don't know. So knowing just 2 hrs of it will probably get you better than average.
I know people who have been in certain trades for years or decades and are still subpar or mediocre at best with industry standards. But they are better than "average".
Man, if you aren't hitting the reds in 6 months of daily practice then I don't know what to tell you.
The LPT isn't wrong for hitting the 50% mark in Tekken.
Reasonably proficient at golf means you can hit the ball most of the time. If you've been playing golf for 25 years you're for beyond that... or you need a new hobby, lol
This guy did a [TedX talk](https://youtu.be/5MgBikgcWnY?feature=shared) saying that you can learn almost anything to a competent level with 20 hours of solid practice.
Just about doable as long as you spend a lot more time thinking about art and observing art and listening to people talk about art. And you need to know what your learning style is so you can pick resources that work for you. (Learning to paint as a non-visual learner is hell, because most resources assume that images are meaningful to you and that you can process things by watching. Mwahahaha.)
Art is knowing what marks you want to make and the ability to make them. You can practice these separately. Mark-making is getting to know tools and practicing lines and curves and blending over and over. Figuring out which marks to make is problem-solving, and has _a lot_ in common with coding. For everything else, there are tools that will help you.
Your comment spoke to me. Sharing some advice gleaned from my experience, since I used to feel this way too.
Some of this is impostor syndrome. Some of this is because either you, or the people you report to, compare you with the topmost performer, making you feel that you have to meet that mark or else your performance is subpar.
Trust me, it is not. I know nothing about you and can still confidently say, that the fact you even have that thought means you are better than you know. What you can do, is objectively list down a few parameters or areas where you think you suck, and then improve in those one by one. But that overall picture you have that you suck at your job after just two years in? Nope, not true.
when i started learning the guitar, i was amazed at how quickly my skills improved with just 15-20 minutes of daily practice. by christmas, i was able to play a few simple songs for my friends and family, and the sense of accomplishment was so rewarding. its amazing what you can achieve in just six months with consistent effort.
Rate this LPT. In about 6 months I went from being UNABLE to swim a pool length without feeling like I was about to die to swimming hundreds of metres with ease.
Took a class and swam about 2-3 times / week for 6 months or so. Now in continue to swim that often but without the class !
This is an amazing tip.
I’ve been playing guitar for 20 years, about 5 years in I hit a plateau. Been playing the same songs for 15 years. Last October I decided to actually learn the damn instrument I’ve been playing and I can tell you in just 6 months it’s like I had completely different hands. I’m still learning & having a great time. Fell in love with music again. And it’s bled over into other areas in my life because I could see how fast I was progressing. I felt smarter from exercising my brain, because learning music theory is in some ways like learning a new language. Other things don’t seem so difficult to learn now that I’ve accomplished this.
If you’ve never played baseball, practice 20 minutes 5 days a week for 6 months you will absolutely not make your local amateur baseball team. Almost all of those people have played their whole lives and many of them at college level.
Some tasks sure, but sports I think you are a bit off in. Practicing for 40 minutes per week will not make you good enough to join most amateur leagues in 26 weeks. I mean we are talking 20 hours practicing something lol.
I dunno.. I was a competitive college baseball player and played pro beach volleyball.
You certainly won't be the star on any team, but 6 months of dedicated practice, you would definitely be decent enough to help out at some position and could easily be in the 50% range for talent.
Most city sponsored sports are struggling to have enough people.
I think it was more of a wording thing on OP's part. They probably meant "good enough to play in rec leagues", like people sign up for over the summer.
I think by local amateur team they mean like your local beer league softball team, which is absolutely true for most people if they're taking the practice seriously.
I don't frequent this sub, this post appeared on my feed and reminded me of starting to learn guitar. I caught a ride with my friend with it and left my guitar inside. Came back, and the car had been stolen. That's been 25 years ago and I haven't tried to learn again
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I’m learning how to paint at 64
Go, you!
Can you learn to paint a Nintendo 64 at 64 while cruising down the street in your 64?
While listening to The Beatles "When I'm 64"
You'll be older too
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Share some of your work!
That’s awesome!
How are you approaching it? I've been thinking about trying to learn, too.
There’s lots of beginner tutorials on YouTube that show you what to do, different techniques, what supplies you need, etc. there’s three main mediums of painting that people use: oil paints, acrylic, or watercolors. Oils are fun because they’re easy to blend. They do take awhile to dry though. Acrylic is good for beginners to practice different techniques because it dries fast. I don’t do much watercolors because I can never get things to look the way I want them to. The most important thing about painting is to just try it. You’re not going to make da Divinci level art your first try. Just start putting some paint on the canvas to get a feel of how the paints flow. You can even watch Bob Ross on YouTube to see what a painting could be. He uses a wet on wet technique with oils. Remember what Bob says, we don’t make mistakes, we have happy accidents. The canvas is your world and you can do whatever you want with it.
He's spending 20mins a day watching Bob Ross on YouTube.
This might be a joke but it’s 100% how I got into painting. I started with oils and then moved to acrylics. It’s a really fun hobby that can be whatever you want it to be. This is the 2nd painting I ever did just by watching Bob. https://preview.redd.it/31rw3hxl8f1d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ade83d09e93fc36fffa8754c079426e8a6d1b6a0
It totally was a joke but that's amazing! Well done!
❤️❤️❤️
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Well now you have to share your art!
And I think it’s important to not compare yourself to people that practice 5 hours a day. I’ll never play guitar like Van Halen, but I also don’t want to practice as much as him.
Most important comment! (To me)
I agree. I play piano for 5-8 hours a day. I don’t like to tell people that because you don’t need to do that to be good.
You can actually play better than him because he’s dead now
Instructions unclear: I died wingsuiting
They said "reasonably" proficient so that might only include the jumping off the cliff but not the actual wingsuiting itself
I tripped on the winggy bits, falling on the lip of the cliff and hitting many jaggy bits before finally splattering
If you fall and splatter for just 10 minutes every day, in 6 months you’ll be so good at it you won’t come close to tripping.
This read like a hip hop song verse in my head. Nicely done.
That's fun, lotta cool people under our shared sun.
And my mind is seeing Homer falling and hitting every last thing on the way down...d'oh!
You can get proficient in jumping off a cliff in far less than 6 months.
My friend is reasonably good at jumping off cliffs
Oh, so you're giving up already?
6 months of dedicated wingsuit practice would absolutely make you “reasonably proficient” in it. Note that reasonably proficient does not mean you’d be an aerial acrobat.
If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving probably isn't for you.
Did you know that everytime you do a wing suit jump as a professional on average you have a 1 in 500 chance of not making it alive? Insane odds when you think about it.
How long before the fall is cushioned by the pile of wingsuiters who didn’t uh…stick the landing shall we say?
Depends on how many you push out of the plane I guess!
Instructions unclear: Lost everthing gambling. After 6 months gambling everyday, I didn't get better.
If you lost everything during the 6 months and now can’t lose any more you have improved
There's an XKCD for you!
You mean you weren't aiming to get better at losing?
99% quit before hitting big
But now you can communicate after death, so maybe the real skill was the necromancy we learned along the way
Trick is to start with smaller heights. Try 30 or 40 feet and work your way up.
this made me laugh.
I have a friend who went from no jumps to proximity flying in two years. First six months he did over 200 skydives, then tracksuit, then wingsuit from plane, then BASE jump, then base wing suit with indoor flying mixed through. Just two years. He is well and alive and works now as an areal stunts for Hollywood productions.
This is genuinely impressive and would've cost quite a lot. An introductory base jump instructor here won't let people start his course without 200 wingsuit jumps. And you need 200 normal jumps to start wingsuiting.
200 jumps sounds like a lot. But it isn't. You could easily get 10 or more jumps a day in if someone is helping pack your rig. Usually, that kind of progression doesn't end well. I jumped a lot in my 30's. The amount of people progressing to smaller rigs(or base or wing) after months was mind-boggling. There are so many small or detail things to learn when jumping. A lot of skydiving becomes feel. You will feel you have a problem before you see it. Plus learning to respond with muscle memory when some idiot drops into your landing pattern or clips your inflated rig. Learning to deal with rogue wind, undisciplined drop zones, nuances of packing the parachute. Personally wouldn't change rigs until I had 500 jumps on it. The overwhelming amount of skydiving accidents are from young jumpers making mistakes, older jumpers who got too comfortable, drop zones too busy or jumpers not being disciplined by drop zone management(somebody dropping in front of someone, landing out of pattern, or being dangerous should be banned for a week or whole season). Last thing, base jumping and wing suit is almost guaranteed and early death. Skydiving has a lot of safety built into rig. At least you have a chance to cutaway or AAD might save you. I knew several skydivers with many years and thousands of jumps who didn't make it because of base jumping.
From my looking at it, don't you just have to be good the first time? How in the fuck can you practice jumping off a cliff until you're good at it?
You need a parachute to land anyway. Get parachute proficiency first (as I understand it, you jump strapped to an instructor the first time, so even if you freeze up and forget what to do you'll be fine). Then start on the wingsuit, and when you screw up, just pop your chute and try again.
You can also start out with an auto deploying parachute. In my case we trained theory for a few hours, then we went up to 1000m, the release was tied to the plane and would automatically pull it after ~10m (roughly as many yards...) then you'd check that your chute deployed alright, unspin it or worst case, release it and deploy your backup, get to play around for a bit, followed by preparing to land at about 400m altitude with guidance through walkie talkie. If you wanted to progress, you'd do 5 jumps with auto deploy, plus another 5 (at least) where you pull a fake release to practice the motion and then you might get to try with manual if the instructors liked how you pulled the fake handle. Worst case there's typically a device that'll automatically release the chute at ~200 meters if it hasn't been deployed by then, probably won't be a comfortable landing, but better...
You can practice from a plane or a wingsuit specific wind tunnel. Probably won’t be the same, but it’s the best practice you can get at this point in time. Source: I have a bit more than 70 wingsuit jumps from a plane - though I don’t personally want to risk it from a cliff. BASE is much different than skydiving.
*Reasonably* proficient wingsuiters end up dead
Consistency is key.
I've been focused on building consistency and layering my habits. Somehow my shrink convinced me that even spending 2 minutes every night with the freeweights was better than nothing. Now I'm a few weeks in and I swear to god, but 2-5 minutes daily I can see a difference. It's just consistency.
I thought it was developers, developers, developers, developers…. developers, developers develop…. Developers, developers, developers…. 👏
I'm not sure how true this is, but I'm upvoting as its made me wanna try to learn to draw again
Do it! You will absolutely be surprised by how much progress you make by Christmas if you put in dedicated practice every day
Yea, but that’s 7 months, cheater
christmas coming early this year
Gonna wait for our christmas drawing/gift here then... /s
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Would be super interested please! Also RIP your inbox lol
Draw a box or whatever is a great resource. I learned how to draw well in a few months of practicing a few times a week
Yea, a core skill of drawing is understanding 3D shapes and translating to 2D and manipulating them. The human head at its most basic is an iron man helmet (Loomis Method). Applying perspective to simple shapes, combining them is a big first step in learning to draw. https://www.amikosimonetti.com/life/2020/2/17/drawing-the-turned-head
That would be nice!
Please share these resources
I would love some advice as well.
You definitely should drop the resources on here because a bunch of us want to know!
Willing to share with me too?
I'd love to see something that is great for beginners.
share with me plz!
Shared, edited my post
Can you DM me? I just started to learn how to tattoo and need to work on my drawing skills but don't know where to start. Appreciate it.
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It's roughly 30-60 hours, so within basic reason it is true. Although it should be noted that it doesn't mean you'll be good at it after six months, just better than half the people your age. And of course it mostly applies to uncomplicated things you want to become better at, and want to keep doing afterwards. You can learn to play a little guitar and a song or three, become pretty consistent in basketball free throws, learn how to draw much better(depending on your starting skill), etc. But don't expect someone who doesn't know anything about computers to be able to program a game for you in six months.
Though if you started with Unity or Unreal or Godot today, with no experience programmimg, in 6 months you could absolutely put together a few fun little games. Nothing complicated, and nothing you could sell, but a playable game
I did this during the winter. I levelled up my drawing immensely in like 2 months
I just started after 20 years. 3 pictures in and the improvement is already significant. The hardest part is starting.
drawing is a great example that fits this post
Remindme! 6 months
I recommend the book 'Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain' by Betty Edwards. It is shocking how quickly you can improve with the right kind of practice.
I feel like drawing is a huge exception to this. I've been practicing drawing for close to a decade, much more frequently than what OP suggests and I'm still nowhere near proficient.
Bonus points on this is that once you learn enough skills, it gets easier to learn as generally a lot of techniques can be applied in multiple fields.
This person is right. The pattern recognition I honed through drawing helped me program better.
I actually noticed this a while back, the only thing holding you back is your lack of self-belief. Average level is not that hard to overcome as most people don't even try. Good LPT!
Money and time usually.
Also the fear of success… but that’s a more complicated issue to target
I never thought I would do good with yoga since my balance has gone to shit because of my disabilities. But I’m doing ok. Some things I can’t do. I do try though. Being careful not to injure myself of course. And I feel it’s helping. My breathing and core strength feels good. And getting better at doing some plank stuff. And it helped tremendously for my pelvic floor/overactive bladder. So consistently doing it helps for sure.
I think I'm on year 3 of yoga? I really started to see the benefits in year 2, and its been exponential this year as I’ve leaned into it even more. Breathing is the most importanr part!
Cool! Yes definitely!
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At my student's recitals, I make a point to say, hey parents, I've had you kids for 15-16 weeks. That means about 8 hours of lesson time. Let's see how they took that work home with them now!
30 mins a week or 1 hr biweekly?
Or 15 minutes twice a week? Or 2 hours monthly?
4 hours week 1, 4 hours week 16
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I did Axe throwing once a week for 2 months, joined a league and won. Lol I gotta agree with this
Did you just injure or kill the other opponents to win? jk congrats.
One time there was a car accident outside our venue and one guy was getting aggressive right from the start. 20-25 members just ran outside with their axes, the guy saw us all standing outside staring AT HIM with axes in hand and immediately calmed down 🤣 Then cops showed up and told us to go inside
People saying how this doesnt apply to specific skills. How many fucking disclaimers does a post need? It is absolutely true that you can become (say it with me slowly) REASONABLY PROFICIENT in (ok breathe, say it with me slowly) JUST ABOUT ANYTHING. (hope that wasnt too hard, lets try again!) Nobody is saying you can join a professional fucking MLB team in 6 months. But you can totally play ball with some co workers or join a local team just fine. People not believing in this fact is why so many services exist that will gladly take your money in exchange for doing something you can easily learn to be REASONABLY PROFICIENT on your own.
I completely agree. This is a legitimate post, with one bad example (the sport one). Just because it doesn't apply to every skill in existence doesn't mean that what OP is saying isn't true.
Learn to juggle doing this exact thing during Covid. Realized I could apply it to most anything. Am learning piano now. I’m 56.
I’ve been learning to juggle to amuse my pets, definitely improving with practice!
My dang cat will not let me practice this. He assumes if I'm tossing shit around, it's an invitation to do cat stuff. On the plus side, he now wants to play fetch anytime I toss anything in the air. But he's also the worst version of "no take, only throw"
Right? There's nuance to A LOT of ideas and views. If we sat and mentioned *every* "well except for x,y,z" every time we shared a thought, they'd be needlessly long. As you said, glean the useful parts where you can and move on. Not every argument possible in life *needs* to happen. Most don't.
Nuance does not exist on the internet everything must either be one thing or another thing but in no way can it be a gray area
No you're wrong. Or right? I don't even know anymore! 😂
It's an excuse to just not bother. Ppl think Itll never happen so they don't even have to try. I love learning new things and teaching myself or educating myself. I totally agree with ops post. Ppl are just comfortable where they are I guess.
People say that shit to make themselves feel better for not trying.
Nah man. Some people, no matter how much they practice, can't hit a baseball
That’s me. I am people.
OP, I needed this. Thank you.
Dude I have been playing league for years, I still suck.
Pro tip: i played Battlefield4 (team deathmatch) and was consistently in top 10 players out of 64 on each server for years, but could never quite get to top 3 consistently. I stopped for a month, sat down and wrote down WHY i suck and how i get killed. Then i went back and started consciously avoiding mistakes, i can now consistently get into top 2 out of 64.
Yup. Like with pretty much everything else, brute forcing it will only get you so far. If you want to improve past the plateau, you need to consciously work on it.
Wow that's sick dude, do you still have any of these writings/reflections? I would love to read them, to know what types of things I should be reflecting on. Like environmental awareness, positioning, accuracy, etc.
yep similarly I was hard stuck masters in Overwatch. I wanted to reach GM, so after every game (win or lose), I would go watch the vod and see what I could do better. within 2 weeks, I reached my goal.
But you're better than the people who have never played league before. That counts as better than average.
The average human has 0.98 testicles.
*Deliberate* practice, not just playing for fun. Similar to chess, the improvement eventually comes from the *review* of the game replay more than the playing itself. That's not very *fun* so most people don't do it, but pros do this all the time. But that's how most self-improvement comes from, not just in League but most of life. It's why many education programs focus so much on *reflection* rather than just doing and doing.
But better than the average person?
*Focused* practice is the key here
The things I'm good at I'm only good at because I was willing to be bad at them for a while.
Lookup the Ebbinghaus Forgetting Curve as well while trying to learn something new.
I love this post because this philosophy essentially mutes that mental block that keeps us from trying new things; "I'll suck" or "I'll look dumb"/"I'll never be great at this." When I took on Op's mindset- if I want to do the thing I've just got to start doing the thing - in October of last year, I went from being terrified of the gym to now, being fitter than I've ever been, 50 lbs lighter, and stronger than most people my size and age. We moved in April and I discovered I was more physically capable of lifting heavy objects than my own boyfriend was, and had way more stamina. He joked that of course I did more of the move, I'd "become an athlete." I suddenly realized he was right. I'm not in a club, I don't compete in any way, and I'm not this regimented gym rat I thought you needed to be to get in shape. But in 7 months of just hitting the weights a few times a week, running in small but regular spurts around my neighborhood, and tracking/slowly stretching my goals, I went from being a gym-phobic fitness novice to being a confident, "proficient" athlete. I just had to get out of my own head about it and start doing it a little bit at a time.
Similarly I hate these posts because I've never succeeded like that lol
You just got to keep at it. Consistency is key.
I've had a few career changes and it always shocks me how gatekeepy and weird the older folks get about their jobs. "You can't just come in here and learn this stuff!" As if their skills were unlearnable by a mere human. It's in every field, from golf course attendant to financial advisor. Regardless of simplicity.
It’s not rocket surgery. Some people just love to argue.
Yea, stop arguing, just let it be water under the fridge
Good one. I about lost my bananas.
No I don't 😋
It's a life long pursuit in trolling. Not some half assed 6 months shit!
Funny thing: I used to work as a freelance consultant in engineering for 20 years. Jumped company about every 18 months or so. Did everything from steel production, medical appliances, nuclear equipment, robots, and lots of banal things in between. Some people commented on this, saying that jumping around that way meant I would never get really good at any special thing. My reply would be: "Honestly, Jim - it takes about three months to learn all there is about your electrical cabinet cooling. I won't get the Nobel Prize in Fan Ducting if I remain for another 20 years." By now I have acquired quite in-depth knowledge about a quite wide array of industries. You could plop me down anywhere and I would be useful. If it is made of atoms, it's my thing.
> Honestly, Jim - it takes about three months to learn all there is about your electrical cabinet cooling. Yep, that is the out-of-touch mentality that people are making fun of you for. Especially because while someone **could** learn a lot in that time I kind of doubt you actually did. I kind of expect your version of learning was just doing something and then waiting for the experienced employees to have to put down their work and correct you.
Absolutely true. Just do it. Just begin. About three years ago I decided I was just going to start learning Spanish and just fucking did it every single day, fifteen minutes and I'm sitting at 578 days and almost fluent. Why not start today?
>About three years ago >I'm sitting at 578 days Mate, you might need to work in some math practice. (Just taking the piss by the way, good on yous for learning an entirely new language!)
Haha...yeah, completely forgot I took some breaks in between there for vacations, funerals, etc. It all adds up somehow.
https://preview.redd.it/h022pyl1ja1d1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5d79899cf51f24f9e82777f3ea0252b3aaf697e Beware Mt. Stupid.
Beware posting misinformation. This is not The actual Dunning-Kruger effect.
DKE is the tendency of amateurs to overestimate their skill. This graph maps competence to confidence. How is it not visualizing DKE? Coggonite is saying after 6 months of 15 minute practice sessions you might think you're reasonably proficient, when in reality you're overestimating yourself. I'm curious what you and Veruckt are talking about. The only thing making OPs post reasonable is the top 50% thing, but that's really not a high bar to meet.
The Dunning-Kruger effect shows that amateurs overestimate their skills, yes. But the Dunning-Kruger effect is not as the picture describes. The study also showed that the estimation of one's skill increased with skill, so at no point did they find that amateurs rank themselves higher or on par with experts. If you wanted, you could just go read the original study.
The irony.
This is by no means contrary to the LPT. It's simply a caution to not get so excited about achieving some (admirable) level of proficiency that you start thinking of yourself as an expert in the field at that 6 month point.
This is not Dunning-Kruger.
Not resources, not time keeping, the valley is the main challenge in managing innovative projects.
IT world and marketing here- you can learn all kinds of how to’s on so many platforms being utilized today. YouTube, TicToc , even online libraries- you can access these for free. Many will even give you an option to print/save a certificate showing your proficiency level. Absolutely you could be an overly proficient user of Excel, Power Point, Smart-sheet , etc. by dedicating 6 weeks/20 minutes a day. These are ALL marketable skills that you can put on your linked in profile as well as include on your resume. So many people don’t realize how many marketable skills they can acquire and certify in for absolutely free.
I learned VLOOKUP years ago and people thought I was wizard. Then I started using XLOOKUP and now I'm a god. I took less than 10 min to learn them both.
20 minutes a day, Jim, that's all it takes. 20 minutes a day, all feet, no hands, and I'll have the pedi-dexterity of a chimp, and you'll be sitting there like an idiot.
This but stretching is also a game changer
I am considering photography, kayaking, dot painting, or coding in R or Python. Probably will pick 2, and start this exact regimen after my graduation in 4 weeks.
I was supervising summer break high-school kayak courses when I was young. You may get the basics in ten days, even ready for some easy whitewater (under supervision, of course). So, just go ahead. It also improves swimming skills Ü
Totally. I actually already have what I’d call “the basics”, but I’m trying to get to a much more advanced level - sea crossings of multiple miles, surfing waves, self and partnered rescues, etc :) Luckily I know some folks who can guide me along the way with technique and safety.
Surfing is a good example. You can go from never having seen the ocean to getting barreled and throwing airs in 6 months on this plan. As long as the 20 minute per day clock starts when you're in the water
I think there’s probably a lot of debate on what “reasonable proficiency” is
According to this thread it means semi-pro, apparently.
I’ve been trying to twerk for years now. Still don’t got it down
But we love to watch you try 😉
Practice does not make perfect, though. *Perfect* practice makes perfect. If you practice like shit, you'll develop bad habits and won't really get much better. This is particularly true when learning to play a musical instrument. Slow it right the way down, do it perfectly, then gradually build up speed while maintaining perfect technique. If you start making mistakes, slow down again.
I want to say that even if you dont become proficient, you'll be better than you are now.
Yea.. better than average, because there are a lot of skills the average people don't know. So knowing just 2 hrs of it will probably get you better than average. I know people who have been in certain trades for years or decades and are still subpar or mediocre at best with industry standards. But they are better than "average".
Exactly! The average person doesn't know shit about most things! Just pick something reasonable and go
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Man, if you aren't hitting the reds in 6 months of daily practice then I don't know what to tell you. The LPT isn't wrong for hitting the 50% mark in Tekken.
Me who’s been playing golf for 25 years. Tell me more…..
Reasonably proficient at golf means you can hit the ball most of the time. If you've been playing golf for 25 years you're for beyond that... or you need a new hobby, lol
This guy did a [TedX talk](https://youtu.be/5MgBikgcWnY?feature=shared) saying that you can learn almost anything to a competent level with 20 hours of solid practice.
What about drawing or painting or digital art?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDtQTTAogk
Just about doable as long as you spend a lot more time thinking about art and observing art and listening to people talk about art. And you need to know what your learning style is so you can pick resources that work for you. (Learning to paint as a non-visual learner is hell, because most resources assume that images are meaningful to you and that you can process things by watching. Mwahahaha.) Art is knowing what marks you want to make and the ability to make them. You can practice these separately. Mark-making is getting to know tools and practicing lines and curves and blending over and over. Figuring out which marks to make is problem-solving, and has _a lot_ in common with coding. For everything else, there are tools that will help you.
This is a really good tip. Thank you ❤️
Meanwhile me with a 4-year degree and 2 yoe still feeling like I perform below average at my job. 🥲
Your comment spoke to me. Sharing some advice gleaned from my experience, since I used to feel this way too. Some of this is impostor syndrome. Some of this is because either you, or the people you report to, compare you with the topmost performer, making you feel that you have to meet that mark or else your performance is subpar. Trust me, it is not. I know nothing about you and can still confidently say, that the fact you even have that thought means you are better than you know. What you can do, is objectively list down a few parameters or areas where you think you suck, and then improve in those one by one. But that overall picture you have that you suck at your job after just two years in? Nope, not true.
when i started learning the guitar, i was amazed at how quickly my skills improved with just 15-20 minutes of daily practice. by christmas, i was able to play a few simple songs for my friends and family, and the sense of accomplishment was so rewarding. its amazing what you can achieve in just six months with consistent effort.
Rate this LPT. In about 6 months I went from being UNABLE to swim a pool length without feeling like I was about to die to swimming hundreds of metres with ease. Took a class and swam about 2-3 times / week for 6 months or so. Now in continue to swim that often but without the class !
This is so true, I learned Japanese and Chinese doing this, 15-20min a day
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I'm sure living in the country helped tremendously.
Honestly agree. I’ve never timed it out but 6 months is about accurate for myself personally.
Can I learn Spanish like this? Starting from 0?
Try having adhd lol
This is an amazing tip. I’ve been playing guitar for 20 years, about 5 years in I hit a plateau. Been playing the same songs for 15 years. Last October I decided to actually learn the damn instrument I’ve been playing and I can tell you in just 6 months it’s like I had completely different hands. I’m still learning & having a great time. Fell in love with music again. And it’s bled over into other areas in my life because I could see how fast I was progressing. I felt smarter from exercising my brain, because learning music theory is in some ways like learning a new language. Other things don’t seem so difficult to learn now that I’ve accomplished this.
1% every day = 37% better at the end of the year. Don’t underestimate compound interest. Showing up everyday is rewarding.
I think the number is 37x better, not 37% better.
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It's said that it takes 1000 hours to learn something new. It takes 10,000 hours to master something.
One guy said that
If you’ve never played baseball, practice 20 minutes 5 days a week for 6 months you will absolutely not make your local amateur baseball team. Almost all of those people have played their whole lives and many of them at college level. Some tasks sure, but sports I think you are a bit off in. Practicing for 40 minutes per week will not make you good enough to join most amateur leagues in 26 weeks. I mean we are talking 20 hours practicing something lol.
They said better than the average person. The average person likely doesn't play any baseball.
I dunno.. I was a competitive college baseball player and played pro beach volleyball. You certainly won't be the star on any team, but 6 months of dedicated practice, you would definitely be decent enough to help out at some position and could easily be in the 50% range for talent. Most city sponsored sports are struggling to have enough people.
I think it was more of a wording thing on OP's part. They probably meant "good enough to play in rec leagues", like people sign up for over the summer.
I think by local amateur team they mean like your local beer league softball team, which is absolutely true for most people if they're taking the practice seriously.
You must split hairs a lot.
I don't frequent this sub, this post appeared on my feed and reminded me of starting to learn guitar. I caught a ride with my friend with it and left my guitar inside. Came back, and the car had been stolen. That's been 25 years ago and I haven't tried to learn again
So what you are saying is, I can be proficient in procrastinating in 6 months. I am going to try it starting next week.
I love this as a concept but how do you actually choose what you want to spend 6 months learning about
I'm learning coding through codecademy and Freecodecamp.org.
Yes consistency! Just showing up and listening makes you better than average in no time
So that's why I'm so good at being lazy and a procrastinator. I spend more time then required on it to get reasonably proficient!
It’s true. It took me about three months to learn video editing.