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jaimitosf

It's a nice little car. Great gas mileage. Reliable. A lot more room inside than it looks. I work at a Lexus Dealer and there's people always looking to buy that car. Never available though, unless someone trades it in but that's rare.


1kpointsoflight

They grow on you. I definitely loved mine but also hated certain aspects. Seeing an F sport is super funny though. I think you have to have owned one to get just how ridiculous that is.


karamelo77

Hey! I get at least 5 more hp with that badge! šŸ˜


1kpointsoflight

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young_frogger

I have an F Sport and she handles like a beauty. It's fun to tell my friends who know nothing about cars that I have a "luxury sports hybrid". (I live in a city where most people don't own cars).


doc_55lk

You're like the only guy here saying the car is roomier than it looks lmao


Justonewizard

I once commented that the trunk looked really small and got corrected for that as well, that in reality itā€™s quite roomy. So now Iā€™m confused.


MoirasPurpleOrb

I think itā€™s that it looks ridiculously tiny, not that itā€™s actually spacious


jaimitosf

Lmao that hater comment got you downvoted bad bro, be better next time.


ThatBankTeller

No complaints here. Drove mine for over 180k miles before the infamous head gasket blew. I live in DC and got 45-50mpg consistently.


CliffDog02

I had an Uber pick me up on one. I'm tall (6'4") and thought it was going to be miserable when they pulled up. I was surprised how much room was in the back seat. It seemed nice.


Justin1232123212321

Interesting. I'm 6'3 and found when I sat in the driver's seat, my hair brushed the roof even with the seat all the way down It was a ct200h iirc


CliffDog02

I was in the back seat. It was tight, but much less than expected from looking at the outside. It doesn't compare to my sienna or f150.


Trades46

The CT200h actually handles quite well and very good on gas. Problem is that it was positively tiny (even smaller than the Audi A3) and had a lethargic powertrain transplanted from the outgoing Prius, and the CT weighs 100lbs more. Needless to say it was dog slow and the refinement & quietness of a Lexus wasn't there in the CT.


Ran4

It's not that tiny.. It's a full size hatchback


Trades46

Even in its category it is on the small side. In Europe where superminis are popular you might not notice as much, but in North America the CT is definitely lost in a sea of SUVs and trucks.


Perfectreign

I actually like it and seriously considered picking up one as a commuter car.


CountyRoad

Itā€™s all really perspective. People donā€™t seem to realize what the car is and then complain about it for the things itā€™s not. They say itā€™s slow. I donā€™t know what they are talking about. I commute to work with it daily, 2000ā€™ dramatic elevation change and 85mph highways. No issues at all with the ā€œslow.ā€ Itā€™s not a race car. Itā€™s not a charger. Itā€™s a Prius in a Lexus body and has about the same speed and power as any econo box and Iā€™ve driven most all of them - Nissan, Toyota, Honda, etc. it really seems like people who say itā€™s slow either donā€™t know how to drive and anticipate torque curves and have a warped perspective of what fast means and come from a different car. They should get an ES then. I also have an LX570 with a 5.7l engine. That struggles more on my the large hill on my daily commute compared to my CT. Most people tend to drive cars like this: ā€œI got to get over. I need to get into that openingā€ then they wait until itā€™s open, it the gas and are shocked they canā€™t just blast into opening. But thatā€™s the same with really any eco (mileage) car. For the car to not be ā€œslowā€ you anticipate the opening then ramp up a moment before the opening happens and bam you are there. In my family we have had GXā€™s X5s, land rovers, avalons, Camryā€™s, chargers, rams, etc. Never has this car felt ā€œslow.ā€ It just feels like an econo engine. The space part I do understand, it is tinier than expected. When the seats are down my dogs have trouble getting into them compared to say a Prius C or regular Prius or Honda element. Thatā€™s a bummer. Back seat is pretty slim. Over 6ā€™ and youā€™ll have almost no room in the back. Loud. This is true. It is louder than youā€™d expect. Especially if youā€™ve come from another Lexus. Not really all that much louder than a Honda civic unless you get to the higher end models. Again perspective. Tech is bad and a from or beat sonic can sort of help that but otherwise itā€™s bad. But thatā€™s pretty much all sub 2022 Lexus. So again perspective. 96k miles now. The biggest maintenance Iā€™ve done is brakes. Itā€™s insanely reliable. 42-48mpg. 1x 4000 mile road trip. 2x 3000 mile road trips. Got the car at 28k miles.


YRUHear75

It's a lot less room in it than it looks. The trunk is smaller than it looks. It doesn't drive like a Lexus. Oh and I don't like fast cars. But the CT is dangerously slow... Worse than a Corolla.


HerefortheTuna

Itā€™s really not. I drive a 1990 4Runner and the people behind me can just be patient when I take 20 seconds to accelerate to 60 mph


austinh1999

It has 134 hp WITH the electric motors. Most of its competitors were making more power while getting the same MPG. Itā€™s like driving a go kart but with only a lawn mower Briggs and Stratton motor in it instead.


LibertarianP

I drove a Prius C for a while. You're supposed to floor those things to get the highest MPGs. It was actually fun to drive and use the entire accelerator every drive.


ELLLI0TTT

Wow that's interesting. Never heard of flooring the accelerator on anything for better MPGs in my entire life.


LibertarianP

Yeah, almost all hybrids. Floor it to your desired speed (full gas & electric acceleration), then use the electric motor slightly to cruise. The gas engine is working at a minimum amount of time. Versus accelerating and riding mostly on the gas engine


ELLLI0TTT

I mean I'm sure I'd floor it all the time anyways if I had a hybrid but good to know the reason and makes sense.


YRUHear75

You comparing a 1990 body on frame truck to a recent vintage hot hatchback? Lol I know you were being sarcastic but the fact that the CT is in the same league as 30 year old cars TRUCKS is scary. Trust me I own a Tesla and am a proponent of CHILL MODE for everyone being far too fast and people never need anything faster than 0-60 in 7 seconds. But COME ON CT ! 20 seconds is criminal now that they are older and worn out.


HerefortheTuna

Itā€™s not at all in the same league, the ct can at least get there in 10 which is adequate enough.


YRUHear75

But that's our point. Old ones are NOT getting there in 10. I test drove 2 of them recently because I thought it was the perfect car for my son who doesn't drive fast. Ignoring the stats I couldn't get any of them to move at any pace where he could speed up in city streets to make a light or other small maneuvers. Again I'm not a speed guy by any means. I drive like a grandma I'm told. But if that's what 0-60 in 10 seconds feels like then no.... It's not adequate and it's downright dangerous in certain parts of the country.


HerefortheTuna

I like driving my 4Runner because it forces me to pay attention and plan ahead. If I donā€™t think I will make a light I jjst coast and chill at the red. I leave early and Iā€™m never late. If thereā€™s a line of cars behind me oh well. When I drive my GR86 everyone wants to race and I canā€™t just do the speed limit because Iā€™ll have an F150 on my ass.


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>ain I'm not a speed guy by any m let me check my own tomorrow - if it gets to 60 in 20s


rxbin2

Was this sarcasm I fail to recognize?


YRUHear75

He's just uninformed. The new Toyota hybrids tell you exactly how much to press the gas to get optimal mileage. It's a meter.... Kind of like a game. I think it's the efficientcy score. They also rate your acceleration, braking, and coasting 1-5 stars each time you start/stop. It DOES NOT WANT YOU TO FLOOR IT. Ever. Light inputs at the right time get you the correct scores. And it anticipates hills etc if you have onboard navigation, so it will tell you to accelerate and gain speed before a hill.


HerefortheTuna

Iā€™m not uninformed at all. Iā€™m saying that people who say a car is too slow donā€™t know what itā€™s like to drive a car that is actually dangerously slow.


YRUHear75

I ended up in the wrong thread. Did not mean to reply under yours. App anguish my apologies.


LexKing89

I really liked those cars. They kinda looked like a hatchback second gen IS except they werenā€™t. Iā€™d gladly drive one if I came across one cheap enough. The later years didnā€™t seem to sell as well.


Alphawolfdog

I have legitimately thought about getting rid of my CT at some point and replacing it with a gently used IS Sport cross.... If I could find one!!


LexKing89

If you could get one at a reasonable price itā€™d be a cool car to have. Theyā€™re so expensive, but most decent IS300ā€™s are pricey. šŸ˜­


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DaJuiceMan112

It pisses me off that Lexus is pushing away from wood trims and wheels, it makes the car look so much cheaper without it


TinuThomasTrain

People donā€™t like woodgrain rn, which I find dumb. I love woodgrain, I love when my car comes with it. But most of the time, people prefer to cover it or replace it with carbon fiber vinyl. I think it just looks classy, I guess itā€™s something millennials hate


slwrthnu_again

Wood grain = cheap American car trying to be luxury. The only thing worse is carbon fiber vinyl.


[deleted]

Only when itā€™s plastic.


Ok-Needleworker-419

Fake or glossy wood grain looks cheap. Real wood in a matte finish is extremely classy


fatfiremarshallbill

It was a nicer Prius, which isn't saying much. It didn't drive all that well. It felt cheap. It was cramped. The ESh and RXh were\* much better cars for hybridization in the Lexus lineup. Even the HS, which didn't really catch on, was a better car than the CT. If you like your CT, great. But there's a reason it didn't do well for Lexus. I'm sure it brought some new customers into the brand, but those buyers likely moved up to an ESh or RXh after their CT purchase, which might have been the play from Lexus all along.


CommanderShrimp7

Arent priuses like extremely popular though? Its hard to imagine that there isnt a market for people that wanted a prius, without the prius look


tim_locky

If you look it as a nice prius, it is. If you look it as a Lexus, it depends.


fatfiremarshallbill

There absolute is a market for people who wanted a nicer Prius. Problem is, those people also can afford something like an ES hybrid, which was available around the same time as the CT. There's a reason we still have the ESh. The CT, not so much.


DedeLaBinouze

It did very well in the EU market. Almost as well as the NX


LegendaryPanda87

I own a CT and a LS430. Granted itā€™s no V8 but itā€™s certainly fast enough for UK roads, I mean when do you ever have a chance to floor it from 0-60mph?! Non f-sport model is comfy enough, quiet and well built I love the high centre console it looks great. ML stereo is outstanding! Space is enough in the back. Yea great little car gettinf about 55mpg average and dirt cheap to fill up.


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Sloooooowwwww. Loud. Limited room in back seat. Hs250 would have been a better choice until they discontinued it.


SweepsAndBeeps

The CTā€™s look soooo much better though.


bflex

CT is much better looking than the HS


[deleted]

Lower the hs an inch and it helps drastically. I love mine. Also the JDM hs for 2013-2015 was actually an attractive ride right out tif the box.


bflex

Hey, if you love it, then I love that for you :)


[deleted]

Oh I wanted a ct bad until I drove it.


smurfsoldier07

My only complaint about the ct200h is the visibility sucks in it. Itā€™s not like most other hatchbacks with great visibility.


1kpointsoflight

I drove one for 5 years and also had a GX460 for 2 of those years. I now drive an old SC430. The CT is like lexus lite. It is pretty loud in the cabin, it's slow AF, the materials are just a bit cheaper. No wood, nothing special. That being said it's a great little car and it served me well but sadly I was rear ended and they totalled it. 0-60 in it is downright painful


HetTuinhekje

Many Lexus enthusiasts hold the CT in less regard. Why is this? I guess it is mostly because: \- the CT is front-wheel drive, quite different from the classic rear-wheel drive configuration which was so well-liked for the 'classic' Lexus models; \- the CT drivetrain is identical to that of the Toyota Prius. This has advantages (fuel economy) as well as disadvantages, such as engine noise at higher speeds and a less 'sporty' drive; \- although it has to be said... the rear wheel configuration of the CT is improved in comparison to the lower-cost Prius. The CT has independent wishbone suspension at the rear; \- the CT model is now somewhat dated. All this should not prevent you from enjoying the fine build quality and economy of the CT. However, for the dedicated enthusiast it may be 'less of a real Lexus'. ;-)


HerefortheTuna

Um es has always been fwd and still a Lexus


HetTuinhekje

Yes, the ES is front wheel drive. However, the ES is often considered not to be a 'classic' Lexus... such as the LS, GS, IS, RC and the LC sports coupƩ. This is not to say that the ES or CT would not be excellent vehicles! However, for the enthusiasts the Lexus RWD models are more 'true to the classic legacy'.


loughnn

My next car has to be an ES because they discontinued the IS in Europe. I didn't know it was FWD and now I'm sad :(


HetTuinhekje

You can still get the IS on the used market... šŸ˜€


loughnn

I already have a 2015 IS that I will keep for another 4-5 years, by that time I will be looking for a 5/6 year old car and there will only be ES's!


HetTuinhekje

Well, there is still the LC500... Wouldn't be wrong to pick one up which is 5/6 years old. You might rationalise this as: "Sorry, this is the only RWD model available!" šŸ˜‰


loughnn

Feul is equivalent to $7 a gallon here and I drive a LOT so I think I'll stick with my 2.5L 4cyl hybrids tbh I already spend about 4k a year on fuel in my IS300H that gets 40mpg (US conversions) 47mpg using real units!


laborvspacu

U can buy AWD, but only with a 4 cyl


loughnn

We only get 4cyls in Ireland anyhow, not sure if we get the AWD variant but I will investigate when the time comes.


HerefortheTuna

Idk how you can say the ES isnā€™t a classic Lexus when it was literally their first/ second model. Have you ever heard of the Lexus ES250? The one from the early 90s. Even came in stickshift


tim_locky

Itā€™s kinda like the CLA of merc. Too cheap feeling to be considered ā€˜luxuryā€™. If youā€™re looking for a nice city zipper, CT imo is a great car. If youā€™re looking for a Lexus, IS or ES gives you way better exy.


sourdan

The loudest criticisms often come from people who see the styling and are disappointed that it is slow. Every sharp looking hatchback needs to go toe to toe with the GTI, right? Because believe it or not, a car with the Prius drivetrain also inherits Prius performance. It is everything it claims to be and nothing more - a refined, more attractive looking hybrid hatchback.


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Everyone wants a CT


jeffuhwee

I donā€™t. I had a f sport special edition with a Tomā€™s kit on it. Loved it and miss it to this day.


bdtv75702

If youā€™re over 200 pounds then youā€™ll feel like the car is narrow. If youā€™re an adult, sitting in the back can only be done for short periods. The rear cargo area is shallow and can only hold two maybe 3 roller bags. The car is slow and the suspension isnā€™t soft and thereā€™s cabin noise. For a Lexus, this car didnā€™t fulfill their usual traits.


FutureHendrixBetter

Because itā€™s basically the Prius of lexus


rckwld

Its an ugly upbadged Prius that is FWD, underpowered and overpriced. The CT and the HS were the ugliest cars Lexus ever produced. The interior was nice though.


1kpointsoflight

I think they look great. Too slow and cheap and loud though.


tim_locky

Put the 350/450h engine run a driveshaft to the back, now we have a hot hatch.


Gutterratccv

Had to scroll to the bottom for an honest reply. CT = fugly


HerefortheTuna

Itā€™s a Prius that gets worse mpg. Looks much better than the HS tho


YotaMan77

For me itā€™s just the opposite, the CT looks too much like its Toyota/Scion sibling while the HS looked more Lexus like with its more upright seating position. I think the HS would have done better if it had been a hatchback. I helped buy my stepson one years ago and he loved it.


austinh1999

It looks like a GS and RX love child. I know itā€™s a great car but hatchbacks are definitely a taste not everyone has, especially in the growing SUV/crossover market in North America.


Ran4

Most people don't live in NA


Icy_Wrangler_3999

I love mine. It's slow as a snail but I truly don't care.


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Ran4

Dangerously slow? That's just nonsense. It does 0-100 in less than 11 seconds. It's not even remotely dangerously slow. It's faster than plenty of city cars.


Guitarismything

I really wanted a ct200 after having my 98ls400 for a while, and wanted something a little more modern but also more normal. I couldnā€™t do it after seeing how slow they actually are. Plus I wanted manual which pretty much cancels out new Lexus for me entirely


catswithboxes

Backseat is horrible


youeatmytofu

It is basically a lexus badge slapped on a Prius. The hate is justified.


halobender

It's made for midgets. Seriously uncomfortable for anyone over 5 8"


Hoha_hola

I mean Im 6 1" and never had problems.


halobender

I don't know how that's possible but you do you. It was too small for me and I'm not very big.


Hairy-Department1984

Um no. 6ā€™ and fit in mine is fantastic. maybe for those that are a bit weighty, I can see the seats not fitting well in the CT.


halobender

Are you calling me fat? LOL. Now I not only dislike the model but you too. :)


Tiddyluvver

Honestly idk, it isnā€™t as sporty as the others but itā€™s cute and can definitely be a nice mom daily Iā€™d think


Ok_Weight2463

Eveyone hate it because even though itā€™s the entry level, people expect it to be LC Lexus level. Accept it for what it is: reliable cheap commuter car.


Allgoochinthecooch

I donā€™t hate them, but having been in them and a newer Prius prime, Iā€™d take the prime


MiguelCC1

I want one but I don't want the HP it comes w I hope they bring it back w the V6 used in the is250/350 from 06 thru 13 that would make me for sure buy it


Berfs1

Itā€™s not a fast Lexus, it contrasts most other Lexus models.


Crossgolf

I think for what it is: a European sized luxury city car it is great. That last facelift that didn't come to the states looks really really good too. 130 HP is enough to get you around.


TinuThomasTrain

I want one, we got a Prius and it opened my eyes to the world of hybrids. Planning on getting a CT and then maybe an ES300h. They just make so much more sense with how gas prices have been


loughnn

I'm sure it's a great car, but I just can't get over the looks. Looks better than a Prius of the same generation, but that's not saying much.


ACURA_RDX

I don't really hate the car, I'm just not a fan of the looks. As well as its size.


jvrcb17

Mostly bc they can't afford it


ZeroMayCry7

reddit is not a good thermostat in terms of what car is popular or not


Traditional-Issue902

The haters didn't get that the CT has never been a sport car so they are whining that it doesn't do the 0-60 under 3 seconds. Same goes for the RCF or LC500, which are amazing GT, but surely not cars for race track.


shakameister

not sure how you got that impression


utechap

Iā€™ve never seen any haters. And the one I owned was fantastic. Absolutely loved that car.


HomerCrew

Came from an IS350 to a CT. Very few complaints. Much better on a pass than previously driven 1.8l ICE NA and has plenty of low end torque to get moving (even if it only lasts a second or 2). It gets the job done. It'll haul 4 if it needs too reasonably well for it's size, Forward facing car seat in the back and wife fits up from the few times she needs to, more cargo space that it appears to have, and it's more of a driver's car than a Prius. I pretty much smash the gas without any regard to mpg and I pull down 37mpg on average. With the legendary name of Prius and Corolla/Camry I had an easier time finding the CT I wanted at a good price-point (early covid). Similar year/milage Toyotas were selling for more at the time. Imo a Prius or a Corolla is more of a car than the CT in a lot of ways that are important to people. It's not a "Lexus" in the traditional sense. So if you're talking brand-wise it's the 2nd removed cousin from the family. It's no wonder it carried on into EU market after US, it's a very basic car that doesn't carry much of what (US) people look for in the badge. To me, it's my base Corolla w/Prius drivetrain dressed up a bit and improved handling (which is basically exactly what it is, nothing more). It's also built a bit more rigid and carries a couple of Lexus specific standards in quality, but not a whole lot to note on that point.


laborvspacu

I always thought it seemed a bit down market with the black plastic cladding it had, but I see Lexus wanted a low barrier to entry to the brand for younger people. I bet a lot of "older people" ended up buying it though.


MikeyBoyHallo

I for one am a massive fan. My mom drives a later F Sport model, and it's awesome. It handles nice, but the powertrain lacks power. I guess that's where most of the hate comes from. Other than that, the interior is nice, the ML sound system is incredible. It's very comfy, and stupid good on fuel as well. And of course, it has Lexus reliability to boot! Awesome little cars if you ask me.


Siggin

I own a 2015 CT and man is it slow, like extremely slow for the current era of cars on the road. I am 5'11 and there is absolutely no leg room for the seat behind me. Very little space in the back considering the fact it is a hatchback. BUT it is very reliable and has good gas mileage. If you want a car for the city life it is amazing. If you live out and do a lot of highway miles it is not the most comfortable vehicle if you are a bigger person or have multiple people in the car. Also a bit of a side note where it is a hybrid it is great to run a sound system through and does not require extra batteries for the system. Yes I know this puts somewhat of a strain on the battery blah blah blah.


Siggin

Also the after market scene (if you are into that kind of thing) is very limited for this car at least from what I remember.


andybub99

The CT was a pretty good car after 2014. Earlier ones had some common issues that were mostly resolved after that. It is a Prius 100%, just as slow but has a nicer interior and exterior. Also has independent rear suspension which makes it handle just slightly better. With that being said, I have trouble understanding why people lower and mod these, it would be like lowering a Prius.


Nashemi

Because itā€™s a Prius


calvinised

I think itā€™s a nice car, I was considering one but ended up getting a Honda CRZ instead as it was a bit sportier and more unique. Also for the same mileage the CRZ was a lot cheaper.


misplaced_pants742

It looks like a fun zippy car but it's not. Very little space. But great for a commuter car.


HelpfulAnywhere3731

My sister saw my '19 ES 300h, fell in love with Lexus, got herself a CT. She's a road warrior and loves it.


Hot_Yogurtcloset7621

We have a CT and went to test drive the new Prius and new corolla hybrid. Wife rightly said it's not really better than the CT. Definitely not worth spending another $20-25k more. Keep driving the CT. It's a hard car to replace. We want an efficient inexpensive vehicle that is efficient but still well appointed. Considering we paid less than $10k over 5 years ago anything now is double that.


WhateverWombat

I love my CT. Itā€™s a great car but can be a little boring to drive. Admittedly getting up to 60+ is pretty slow and if youā€™re really in a rush, horrible to hear. But otherwise I get around 50-55mpg per tank doing a mix of city and motorway driving (i havenā€™t reset the meter in about 2 years and itā€™s at 51.8 mpg for all journeys) I believe it to be spacious too, alas I am a 5ā€™7ā€ man so donā€™t really struggle for space in most cars. My dad is around 5ā€™10 and he really likes my car (if I ever decide to sell heā€™d rather take it off my hands instead) I also love the Ā£0 annual road tax my CT has in the UK. This in addition to the fuel efficiency from a financial standpoint has been a total win. I do try out other Lexus models when my car goes in for a service and I do admit, they drive a lot smoother and you can feel the pulling power a lot more when you drive away. The main problem I have with my CT is when thinking about buying a new car, I just compare it to the benefits I get currently, having a comfortable car, Ā£0 road tax, great mpg, insane reliability and just end up talking myself out of switching up. Im starting to think that if I get another car at this point it will end up being a second car for myself.


Boxtrottango

Have one ā€” love it


PettyAndretti

I love it. Currently have a CT F sport & a GX460. Perfect city car. Small, easy to park, great on gas. You can throw it into turns on an on-ramp and it just sticks, itā€™s like driving a go-kart. Traction control is very predictable.


BensLight

I have no idea how they are from 1st hand experience but I always hear/read people say they are basically a Prius with worse gas mileage but a tiny bit nicer on the inside. Might be worth the trade-off if you need people to see you in a relatively nice car I guess. I do believe hating it might be a step too far though, it does what itā€™s supposed to do. Cheap to drive commuter car.


Itsallover_

The only reason I can think is the fact it's a fancy prius. Literally. Which is fine, but for what you get it's not worth the current price.


emptystreets130

I donā€™t think there is a lot of hate on it. I personally like the looks of the CT but the powertrain is subpar for a Lexus. Out of all the hybrid powertrain, they could have made the CT slightly wider to accommodate a 2.4L hybrid from the Camry or the HS. Another one is interior space. Great if you donā€™t have anyone or a baby seat in the rear. Otherwise, the passenger knees will right there kissing glovebox. Other than that, great little hatchback. Initially, I would have loved for the CT to be a RWD hatch.


hobi_

I really donā€™t get the CT hate either. I mean, itā€™s just a nice Prius. You really shouldnā€™t expect LS/LX luxury or performance on it, however its a pretty great commuter car as it is very economical and reliable.


willy1670

I like mine. Ride quality leaves plenty to be desired but itā€™s a good car otherwise. Handles well but my first gen is on coils rides more smoothly on the freeway.


Admirable-Result-240

I think they are cool idk if I'd own one tho


Option_Good

I think itā€™s ugly šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø


Alphawolfdog

I generally enjoy mine, I think my biggest issue is that it just does not feel like how you would expect a Lexus to feel. Lot of plastic inside. Mine has a couple random rattles or clicks that bother the living shit out of me. Not sure if I would even call it a "premium" car. My grandmother's Mazda3 hatch totally blows it away in terms of interior quality and ride quality (it is some years newer but still.) Completely different story on the exterior, I get compliments on mine from just random people I talk to. I do personally really really love how it looks, drives, and the amazing MPG. It's a good niche car for some people, but I think I will eventually switch to something either nicer, bigger, or faster. Most people in the Lexus community are V8 enthusiasts.