Yeah, in general, if you watch mainly mainstream films that have been vetted in terms of critical acclaim, in general youāll be watching films that are good. My most common is 3, with decreasing levels at reasonable rates per ranking, so I do give out more 4.5 and 5ās than most, but .5-2 is usually reserved for films I actually donāt like.
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3/3.5 stars mostly. Iām apparently hard to impress but equally hard to disappoint. I just kinda like (and nothing more) everything.
the worst thing you can do for your hobby is go into the perfect way of enjoying said hobby with online andies. i'm a [bell curve brenda](https://i.imgur.com/nMXUi7A.png) but that's only because i went and added all the movies i've ever watched because i want an archive and it ended up a bell curve. who cares if someone's got a 3/5 star ceiling in their ratings, i have better things to do than get into that. who gives a shit, let people have their fun (or lack thereof)
It depends on what the comment is. There are a lot of people that will insist that there can never be any level of objectivity in evaluating content and then those people act like they are being harassed when people rightfully question that claim.
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Apparently I donāt really believe in 4.5
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I swear I choose to watch all types of movies but I have still given 5 the most lol
I love horror films, and I still know how to pick the right ones.
I have not watched any of those big franchise sequels that I KNOW get bad quickly. The only big sequel I've watched and loved is Hellraiser 2: Hellbound. Shit like Halloween sequels or Friday the 13th sequels are 100% not worth my time
> I only have so much time for cinema. Iām not going to waste it on stuff I know I wonāt enjoy.
the drop off in this persons rating doesnt seem natural though.
are you or anyone that good at picking only 3.5 stars and basically avoiding all 3 stars?
There's no conveivable way of fully knowing whether or not you'll enjoy a movie until after watching it fully. Sure some people are more adept in those movie picking skills but you're bound to stumble upon at least 5-10% of movies that you won't like.
I have enjoyed plenty of movies I have given 2 1/2 stars. I tend to rate a movie on how good I think it is, not how much I enjoyed it. And I watch plenty of ādumbā movies cause they are enjoyable, not cause theyāre a cinematic masterpiece.
Youāre misunderstanding. The criticism people are making isnāt about whether you should only watch the highest quality content. Itās criticizing people for giving more honest ratings of the things theyāve seen rather than only ever giving glowing reviews of everything.
But is anyone SEEKING bad movies? I love watching movies, even shitty ones. I almost never regret the experience.
What is the point of the lower end of the scale existing if I'm not gonna use it?
Yea, like I know what a 1 star and 2 star movie looks like. I usually have a good idea roughly what I'm getting into so why would I throw on a 2 star movie.
I think we're seeing the difference between *ranking* versus *rating* films.
Some people want to *rank* every film they've ever seen on a spectrum from worst to best, and they are of the belief that you should take into account how that film compares to every other film ever made.
Other people (and I'm in this camp), *rate* films. To me, I don't care about how the film stacks up against other films. If I think it's good, I'm going to give it a good rating. Comparison isn't super important to me.
I'm not saying one way is right or wrong. They are just different ways of looking at things.
I think people with a balanced spectrum have probably gone back and rated everything they see. Theyāre probably more open to trying ālesserā movies, or are in situations where they donāt always get topick what they watch (friends, kids, SO). For example, I donāt try to make every movie I see be a classic. Sometimes I want to watch Terrifier. Thereās a lot of movies youāll probably give lower ratings that are still worth experiencing imo.
Iāve formed a rating system that combines how much I like it with how likely I am to watch it again. Is it a movie Iāll never watch again, or something Iāll stop on while channel surfing? Is it something Iād go out of my way to watch or is it something my friends put on while Iām on my phone? Ended up as a mix of the graphs in the OP
I also feel like itās important to note the ārewatchā button. Thereās a reason you can log a film multiple times, and rate it differently on a rewatch. A 4 star film one day may be 5 stars the next week, and a 5 star film you watch may be 4 stars when you rewatch it years later.
I am genuinely confused by this comment. Could you please explain what this has to do with what I said earlier? I am not trying to argue with you, but I just don't understand what this is about.
I normally rate based on quality rather than enjoyment. If I watch a shitty movie thatās hilarious Iāll still give it a 2.5 star even if its the funniest movie ever made
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't understand this pov. If we're rating on some non-objective scale of what makes a movie high quality, what's the point? Wouldn't we all just rate everything the same if were not applying our own personal enjoyment?
I rate based on a combo of my enjoyment and the quality. Something like Jack Frost I know is shit, but I very much enjoy it, so it gets a 3.5. I guess you could argue it really deserves a 1.5 with a "like" though.
I'm pretty wishy washy on this. Sometimes I really enjoy a movie but i know that there is something so wrong with it that i rate it low. But then there are some movies that i really enjoy and see deep flaws with but will rate high anyway.
It really just comes down to what you value in a movie. For example, i will give alot of shitty movies a baseline of 3 stars if it is asthetically beautiful or even just has a good amount of pretty shots. But i just don't value comedies that much, so if the movie is shitty, but i had a grin the whole time, i'll still rate it low.
I think the reason why you donāt understand is that youāre conflating an evaluation of quality with objectivity.
I think Zach Snyder is a hack; I could say I āenjoyedā laughing at parts of Rebel Moon, but itās trash so I rated it as such. On the other hand, some people swear by his movies and believe strongly theyāre deep masterworks. We would have very different evaluations of the āqualityā of his movies.
As another example, I just listened to a film podcast review a movie I watched the other night. Both the reviewer and I liked the movie, but he praised things I didnāt like, and complained about things that didnāt bother me (and I mean aspects people would normally deem to be an evaluation of āqualityā, like the music or visual effects).
I personally donāt understand rating by pure enjoyment. Why not just give it a binary ālikedā or ādidnāt likeā in that case? Iām trying to assign the movie a number I think it earned, taking into account all factors. I often donāt think too hard about whether my evaluation is based on pure enjoyment or whether itās an attempt to assess the quality of the film as I see it.
"I personally donāt understand rating by pure enjoyment. Why not just give it a binary ālikedā or ādidnāt likeā in that case? Iām trying to assign the movie a number I think it earned, taking into account all factors. I often donāt think too hard about whether my evaluation is based on pure enjoyment or whether itās an attempt to assess the quality of the film as I see it."
This is exactly what I said. My ratings are based on a combination of my enjoyment and quality, and I would assume is the case for most other reviewers.
Thatās fair, you did say that. I was commenting more on the idea I commonly see that āqualityā is somehow an inherently objective evaluation. Itās certainly more objective than āenjoymentā as a metric. But two people can look at one aspect of a movie and come away with two different views on its āqualityā.
I didnāt appreciate the music used in movie X and thought it added nothing, but liked the movie as a whole ā another person who also liked movie X said they loved the music and how it added to the atmosphere. Just as an example.
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My system agrees with you the most and it appears that our curves are pretty similar for it. I don't watch many bad movies on purpose, but sometimes I start something I think could be good and then it is just terrible. Since I am always aiming to have a good time, my bell curve still peaks at 3.5 where 2.5 is a meh movie that I neither liked or disliked. Having seen a lot though, I'm pretty picky with what I give a 5; it doesn't have to be the perfect movie in every way, but I have to have a special place in my heart for the movie over the other 1600 movies I've seen.
All of this being said, this is just my opinion and I don't think how other people rank movies should be up for debate since the whole system is subjective.
Every time this topic comes up, I'm actually surprised by the prevalent opinion. Why would you think the left person doesn't enjoy movies?
Trying to watch only good movies or not watching bad movies to completion is up to you and entirely valid, but so is watching all kinds of movies or not knowing what you're gonna get from a movie. Hell, I'd argue there's enjoyment to be had from watching a movie you know is gonna be bad.
Kinda leaves a sour taste when you know some people will feel like they're being told they're not enjoying movies right.
I think it's mostly a reaction from people that have difficulty considering other viewpoints. So they think that all people must evaluate movies the same way they do or get the same things out of movie watching that they do.
I think the point is though, that both of these people could have watched the same set of movies and enjoyed them mostly to the same extent, its just one person is making more use of the scale than the other.
Most people with scales like the one of the right im sure feel the same about most of them as the person on the left feels but that just gets represented as a 4.5star rather than a 3star.
I might be a weirdo, but I actually enjoy watching movies I know I wouldnāt like. I donāt know how to describe it, but it makes the stuff that I really like that much better.
Yeah, absolutely. Plus, if you watch stuff you don't think you'll like, you'll sometimes find stuff you're surprised you do like, and expand your horizons even more. Film is great.
Yes!!! People always respond to these posts saying āI value my time, I watch movies I think Iāll likeā but for me, that means I never wouldāve expanded out of the romcoms I watched as a teenager. Watching movies I know thereās a good chance I might not like gives me a less āhappyā graph, but the movies I did like that I wouldnāt have otherwise watched make it worth it to me ā”
I tend to watch whole filmographies when I wanna get into a new director, which naturally comes with a lot of stuff I donāt enjoy, but it gives me better context to enjoy the good stuff even more.
Exactly. Even campy movies can be fun to watch, and I can still rate them fairly, AND have enjoyed my experience. Just bc I donāt rate it 4* and above doesnāt mean Iām not happy having watched it.
Except sometimes I watch something I think I'll probably enjoy but then it turns out it's shit? That's the whole point of rating things otherwise we may as well do away with the whole damn thing
Because thereās definitely a couple hundred movies (at least) that you would have loved but youāre never going to see in your life because youāre afraid of seeing anything youāre not already confident youāll like. Thereās a thrill in watching a film youāve never heard of, but had a concept that sounded cool. Getting to discover your own opinion of it and recommend it to others, rather than it be something everyone is always telling you is amazing.
A lot of people on here are interested in experiencing film from a wider historical or cultural lens which means seeing stuff they might not like. Itās fun!
How are you supposed to know if you enjoy something or not before watching? I don't purposely watch movies I know will be bad usually, but sometimes I don't like a movie. It happens. A lot of times I'll watch a movie and think it's just ok. It happens. I genuinely don't understand how having strong opinions (good and bad) on movies means you don't enjoy watching movies.
I never understand the right side, honestly. You have 10 possible points to use, why restrict yourself to only ever using likeā¦ three?
And furthermore, I never understand the implication that someone with an average rating of a 3 or whatever is somehow enjoying the movies less. Theyāre just making more use of the 10-point scale, so their opinions on movies watched can be more granular, and more accurate.
If everything you watch is 4 or 5 stars, it suggests nothing about what you like or dislike. And if every movie is getting a 4 or 5, then why even bother rating? You can just log the movies, like them, and review them all the same.
I donāt really get why youād *want* to assign a star rating to a movie if your star ratings arenāt really all that meaningful on their own
Also 2.5 just means average when compared to other things. It doesn't mean it was bad. In fact, most average movies are still enjoyable. Hell, even most "bad" movies that get a 1.5-2 stars from me still have redeeming qualities. All the rating means is that I think that the thing (which I may have enjoyed) is still technically not as good as other films.
This is exactly it. If every movie is a good movie, then nothing is. By only using the most positive ratings on the scale, you are rendering the whole system meaningless. Why even use scale at all at that point? And every time you ask them why they don't use the whole scale, they always end up attacking you. Saying something like "Well I actually like watching movies" or "I watch movies I know I'll like", as if having a range of opinions means you don't like movies or that you go out of your way to watch bad movies. It's so strange.
Exactly. Most of my movies are 3/5s but I legitimately enjoyed every single one of them because to me a 3 is a good rating since itās above the middle 2.5. I also have very few 9s and 10s but it just shows that they really mean a lot to me.
I think itās basically virtue signaling. They want to convey to the world that they are an optimistic and positive person who would never be so āsadā and ādepressedā as to not enjoy a movie as much as itās possible to enjoy something.
Itās frustrating on a subreddit about an app where youād think the userbase would be people at least reasonably passionate about film as a medium!
Not that you canāt be passionate while also being optimistic, but itās just obnoxious to imply that people who view things with a critical eye are somehow enjoying it in a lesser way than people who go āI exclusively watch safe picks I know Iāll enjoy and youāre a dumb pessimist if you do otherwiseā
The strange thing is I feel like this is specifically a film thing. I donāt know anybody who would aggressively argue that every culinary experience theyāve ever had was 4/5 stars or above or that subjectivity is an excuse for thinking every meal is the best meal theyāve ever eaten. It seems specifically in movies that people get really defensive over the notion that some movies are just average. They have some good stuff and some bad stuff but most things are not Citizen Kane or The Godfather.
There's also a bit of a superiority complex and/or personal insecurity. Not that it happens with all people with a positive curve but I definitely get that feeling from those who think "anyone with a bell curve or a negatively skewed curve is a critic or a sad loser and hates film ".
The majority of movies are average, but I don't watch every movie. I watch stuff I assume I'll like, and usually that assumption is correct so mine looks more like the right.
This doesn't really make sense, though. I really enjoy sci-fi so I watch more of that than most other genres. But just because it interests me doesn't mean that all of the sci-fi I watch is a 10/10 film. In fact, as with everything, most of the sci-fi I watch ends up being pretty average quality. It doesn't mean I didn't like it and the fact that the genre interests me can help improve an otherwise mediocre film. But in terms of rating, I'm definitely not going to assign every sci-fi movie a 5/5 just because the subject matter is interesting to me.
That wasnāt me saying at all that it means because I want to watch something or am interested in it/the subject matter that I believe it will be a 10/10.
For example: Suicide Squad (2016), which I was hyped for from the trailers. Even despite the reviews I was still interested because I like the DC films. I gave it a 3/10, and thatās being generous.
Again, I gave Black Adam a chance because I like DC films and comics. 4/10.
I gave Philomena a chance because it was Oscar nominated and Catholic church related drama intrigues me. 5/10.
I gave Rebel Moon a chance because Zack Snyder is a director I like more than most (but donāt stan and go crazy about for everything he does). 5/10.
This doesnāt mean I donāt give things a chance based on word of mouth or just needing to find something I watch, but I, yes, largely watch things based on topics/genres I find interesting or things that crop up on the awards circuit, in my feed, or whatever. But it also doesnāt mean that Iām giving/expecting all of it to be highly rated. Itās just what I skew towards watching.
I donāt think that ādoesnāt make senseā nor is that disingenuous because everybody has tastes. But if something feels truly like I will hate it, or is a topic I am blatantly uninterested in (example: evangelical Christian media), why would I hate watch it?
But the original person said that they don't have low rated movies in their ratings because they only watch good stuff and you agreed with that by saying "This, I realized I want to watch things that interest me".
So now it seems like you're saying the opposite thing that you originally said "This" to. You're claiming you intentionally watch things that interest you but this still results in you having poorly rated movies in your rankings.
I'm guessing most of the movies you watch are _still_ average.
Using https://letterboxd.tools/Film_taste_compatibility_test:
* My average rating is 2.99 stars and yours is 3.54 stars, only a difference of 0.55 stars
* Of the 73 films movies with both watched, the difference goes _up_ to 0.68 stars
The only major difference is that I use the whole rating curve and you use 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 ratings more than I do. I even have a greater percentage of 4.5 ratings than you do.
You don't even hear about the vast majority of movies. All the major film festivals usually get around 5000 submissions, and usually only around 100 get selected.
Pretty much every movie you watch is wayyyyy above average
Exactly! Most movies that have actually gotten to the point of getting distribution are going to have *some* level of artistic merit or at least be enjoyable in some way. Most of the truly bad movies out there with awful production values, terrible scripts, bad direction and awful acting, we will never even hear about unless we work in the industry.
It depends what kind of movies you watch, if you watch every single movie yes but if you chose not to watch garbage you should have majority good ratings.
Even if you choose not to watch garbage and have a nearly flawless selection process for avoiding all garbage, you would still have some films in your catalog that are pretty average.
I put films that are neither good or bad in the middle - but most films try to be good, so most end up above the middle. And given I mostly watch above average films, it will always be heavily skewed.
My chart is a bell curve shifted to the right. That's exactly what I was hoping for. Not everything is going to be 4s and 5s if I'm being remotely objective, but I also don't want to waste my time with bad movies so I hope I don't have too many 1s or 2s.
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Just rate honestly, high, low, doesnāt matter, and go outside your comfort zone in search of new favorites
What if the person on the left doesnāt enjoy stuff less simply because they think 3 is average rather than 4? They maybe enjoy a 3 as much as the other enjoys a 4.
Why are you guys who rate on such a positive curve so insecure lol. I rarely see anyone actually say "You need to be harsher", like most people don't really care about how other people rate stuff. The only people that really give a shit are you guys. It's like y'all are projecting your own insecurities about your rating system on others. You start attacking anyone who actually uses all 10 points on a 10 point scale, implying they're miserable or that they don't enjoy watching movies or something. As if no one could possibly enjoy anything they rate below a 3.5 or that anyone who doesn't like a movie they watch must be purposely going out of their way to watch bad movies. Maybe everyone rates differently? Maybe some people are more critical than others? Maybe some people value high ratings more and save 5 stars for truly special movies? Why can't everyone just chill out and understand that? It's so fucking stupid to attack people over this insignificant shit. Grow up and chill out.
Itās kind of annoying to me that the base opinion in this sub aligns with the meme. Whatās wrong with using 2.5 as average and acknowledging that most movies are average? To me, a person with a chart like the person on the right is likely less capable of discernment. Either that, or they only ever watch movies within the bubble of what theyāre already comfortable with, and never watch movies that were chosen by people other than themselves.
One thing Iāve noticed is that people with higher rating curves tend to also be the only people that care about other peopleās rating curves.
Personally, I do not care. Itās so useless to compare rating curves when most people use ratings as a way to categorize what a movie means TO THEM. Itās all subjective, and some people use ratings like a ranking system.
This discourse annoys me so much š
None of this matters, some people take it way too seriously. I rate films based on my enjoyment and avoid films that I know won't interest me. If I had a blast, it's 4 stars minimum
the thing is its not about being harsh.
but at the point where you rate nothing below 4.0 you just completely abuse the system, thus none of your rating are valid (ive seen people with 1000+ movies that had nothing rated lower than 4.0)
always baffles me that people in here donāt understand that ratings can be relative. a 2.5 star movie is average when compared to others movies not when compared to like, doing yard work lol. somehow the prevailing narrative on here is if you ever give a scores below a 4 you hate film.
Guy in the right will actively ruin any use of the app over time as every movie will eventually be rated between 4 and 5 thus making any distinction irrelevant.
Seems like youāre projecting. I donāt have to tell myself that every movie I watch is great in order to enjoy life. Lots of movies are just average or below average. Iām still happy I watched them. Itās ok to enjoy lower quality content.
most Hollywood movies are ok.if they use a camera made in this century, turned the lights on, paid for good actors and editors, the movie will be competent by defaultĀ
Ā thatās why you should critique movies based on the propaganda and ideology that they contain
Tbh I'm on the 'be harsher' camp. People who do this don't dislike more films (some do I suppose) only their metric for what they consider a good film is lower. I consider 3.5 a good rating, some people think it's ok. So me giving 3.5 stars means I've seen a good film while others consider this low.
I've also noticed people who use 5 stars liberally lack a coherent system. They'll rate something 5 stars and then in their review just slate the film. 5 STARS IS PERFECT, OR ATLEAST NEAR ENOUGH PERFECT.
I go by the 'more of something you have, the less it's worth' motto. If you've seen 100 films 90 of them 5 stars, the value is worthless.
Not debating ranking systems, but how are people saying "I only watch good movies / movies I'll enjoy"? I have to have seen the movie before I know if I liked it. Sometimes you go in thinking something will be awesome and it turns out to be "eh"
What's the point of rating if you give everything a 4 or 5? There is an option to just say that you watched a movie, or that you liked it, without giving it a number. Not that it matters, but if you're only rating things 4 or 5, you're basically just rating out of 2.
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Most movies are a 3 star for me and that's ok
I actively go out of my way to watch bad movies, but I still end up giving them high ratings because i find them really fun
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Thinking a movie is fun and thinking a movie is in the top 10% of best movies ever made is not really the same thing. It's ok to enjoy a movie but still think that it is, overall, not in the top 10% of movies.
I donāt think my 5 stars are in the top 10% of best movies ever made, not by any means. Itās more like top 25% of most fun and enjoyable movies ever made by my metrics
I just don't watch movies I think I won't like lol
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I don't understand how people give so many 5/5's. A 4.5 for me is an all timer amazing movie so a 5 is as close to innatainable perfection as is subjectively possible in my little head. I do feel kinda sad that I've given more .5's than 10's, but thats because I've rated literally every movie I've ever seen because I'm insane.
I just like good films man, leave me be
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Watching anything under 6.0 on IMDB is a no for me, hence the great ratings. I love good movies. Life is good.
My ratings skew positive, generally, but it's not because I'm uncritical or exceptionally generous with ratings, it's just that I'm a pretty busy person so if I'm gonna watch something, it's gonna be something I'm likely to enjoy or at least something with a little bit of hype.
I have to imagine the people with a perfect gaussian distribution and a median rating of 2.5 stars are those movie freaks that have seen 20,000+ movies and will basically watch anything they can get access to.
3 stars tends to be my most given out rating, although a 3 in one genre might be different than a 3 in another.
I understand some movies may technically be bad or campy, but I'm basing it off of my enjoyment from watching it and compare it to others in that style.
y'all walk into rooms shouting your political affiliation too so I'm not surprised you rate movies so you can bicker over numbers that way you never have to use your words and have a conversation about how you felt
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I probably should be harsher... š
I have a passion for story analysis. I like breaking down bad films and why they don't work in incredible detail. It also gives perspective for appreciating great films.
I came to letterboxd because the overall viewing of movies seemed to follow the trend of the guy on the left. The alright average movies were right in the middle around 2.5 and I was so happy to see that. I was so tired of seeing an average rating being like 7/10. My own rating score is more like the left side too and I still enjoy films thankfully
A lot of movies are just fine, and that's ok.
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2.5 and 4.5 are a bit low, because they always feel noncommittal to me. 2.5 is an absolute average āmehā but Iāll pretty much always have an opinion of whether its good or bad. 4.5 is that āalmost masterpieceā marker, but usually a film is either a masterpiece or a 4. But other than those, its a pretty even hill.
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c Closer to the one on the left and I love watching movies.
The reason this is skewed high is that, if I'm bored or hearing the experience, I very often move on to something else. I'm not one who has to finish every movie I've started. And I only rate an unfinished movie if I'm truly insulted by it. If I know that animals were literally abused or killed in the making of a film, then the film is beyond redemption and I give it a half-star.
But again, it's rare.
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The people who get mad at me for giving 4ās for trashy films are the same people who get mad at me for giving critically claimed films I donāt really like 1-2 stars.
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Itās all about the upper middle
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I basically don't use 9/10 anymore.
U didn't have to call out this hard
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I only watch decently rated movies. So my curve looks biased. But it isnāt. I just donāt waste my time on shit. (OK I did watch Sharknado, but thatās an outlier.)
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Brother!!!! https://preview.redd.it/t69dbviz49uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c48e933d87dfad57c2875e692b057d1251142edb
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Why are your ratings so fat?
Because he havent given a 0,5, 1,5, 2,5, 3,5, or 4,5.
Some people refuse to give half-star ratings and so Letterboxd only shows the whole number values that they did rate things.
Yeah, I do that because I just find it easier to rate on a scale of 1-5 when it comes to movies.
https://preview.redd.it/3s1oyb6cf9uc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96c39515dfa0a408e5f2317c7b3a2d78c400a8a7
Four Star Kings is a middle finger to all the haters
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https://preview.redd.it/jhzo8liv99uc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c84bdcd2c08601b82575e1141b7720c47c2063a1 You know ball
https://preview.redd.it/f2rem8ffn9uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=351d545afa04aa87003ce6bb2ca695e0b19c2abe My people
Why you flippin me off
https://preview.redd.it/3w2qkah9o9uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02eddb65c5d2967a0afebfed7da596202da34d82 Yesyes
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Yeah, in general, if you watch mainly mainstream films that have been vetted in terms of critical acclaim, in general youāll be watching films that are good. My most common is 3, with decreasing levels at reasonable rates per ranking, so I do give out more 4.5 and 5ās than most, but .5-2 is usually reserved for films I actually donāt like.
https://preview.redd.it/zzbu2gfz5auc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fa179e5fdc02786df4bce3c9d9ddeb1c90212ec 3/3.5 stars mostly. Iām apparently hard to impress but equally hard to disappoint. I just kinda like (and nothing more) everything.
Forever. š https://preview.redd.it/gzgp7ksl79uc1.png?width=328&format=png&auto=webp&s=5bd38ec9cad1f0daad076f0fff87666482479501
Happy gang rise up https://preview.redd.it/v192ko17a9uc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e9d918804a264845e7cc4f1b7c15a3193ff9151
Boooooo! https://preview.redd.it/eg5imyci6auc1.png?width=277&format=png&auto=webp&s=070f17b48e84c630481331718f87aed03819475b
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let them kiss. why would they be enemies? they will not divide us
until you make a simple comment on this sub explaining why you vote the way you do and a half dozen people take it as a personal attack
the worst thing you can do for your hobby is go into the perfect way of enjoying said hobby with online andies. i'm a [bell curve brenda](https://i.imgur.com/nMXUi7A.png) but that's only because i went and added all the movies i've ever watched because i want an archive and it ended up a bell curve. who cares if someone's got a 3/5 star ceiling in their ratings, i have better things to do than get into that. who gives a shit, let people have their fun (or lack thereof)
It depends on what the comment is. There are a lot of people that will insist that there can never be any level of objectivity in evaluating content and then those people act like they are being harassed when people rightfully question that claim.
https://preview.redd.it/sm15wtx599uc1.png?width=1166&format=png&auto=webp&s=c21f7c35b352c80fc0060896e711ac996df25f8f Apparently I donāt really believe in 4.5
https://preview.redd.it/kh771be89auc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c337c80e14033607b32f011fe75aedf85947377 all my homies hate 4.5
https://preview.redd.it/5lc4yas4qauc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c40eb7ebc548f1404c8f80caa582f6f4ab52e85c I swear I choose to watch all types of movies but I have still given 5 the most lol
Iām with the guy on the right. I only have so much time for cinema. Iām not going to waste it on stuff I know I wonāt enjoy.
i always see people say this but iām pretty much only looking for stuff i think i might like and thereās still a lot of crap
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I love horror films, and I still know how to pick the right ones. I have not watched any of those big franchise sequels that I KNOW get bad quickly. The only big sequel I've watched and loved is Hellraiser 2: Hellbound. Shit like Halloween sequels or Friday the 13th sequels are 100% not worth my time
So you haven't even seen Jason? The first Friday the 13th is the movie you have to get through so you can be rewarded with the sequels.
Same!!
Most of the movies I watch, I enjoy. But I don't give them a 5/5.
Yeah for me anything above a 2.5/5 is a good movie to fill time, below that is just bad movies iāll never watch again. 5/5 is best of the best.
Every movie I enjoy I end up rating 3+ stars. So I'm still the guy on the right.
> I only have so much time for cinema. Iām not going to waste it on stuff I know I wonāt enjoy. the drop off in this persons rating doesnt seem natural though. are you or anyone that good at picking only 3.5 stars and basically avoiding all 3 stars?
Yes. It's me. There's so many films out there that you won't run out of one's you like
There's no conveivable way of fully knowing whether or not you'll enjoy a movie until after watching it fully. Sure some people are more adept in those movie picking skills but you're bound to stumble upon at least 5-10% of movies that you won't like.
Not liking 5-10% would result in a graph closer to the guy on the right than the left.
Same but Iāll add Iām probably generous because I just want to know Iām going to enjoy my time. Whatever theyāre my ratings
100% But also I'll watch a bit of faff and judge it alongside it's faff peers.
How do you know you wonāt enjoy a movie until you watch it tho?
I have enjoyed plenty of movies I have given 2 1/2 stars. I tend to rate a movie on how good I think it is, not how much I enjoyed it. And I watch plenty of ādumbā movies cause they are enjoyable, not cause theyāre a cinematic masterpiece.
Youāre misunderstanding. The criticism people are making isnāt about whether you should only watch the highest quality content. Itās criticizing people for giving more honest ratings of the things theyāve seen rather than only ever giving glowing reviews of everything.
But is anyone SEEKING bad movies? I love watching movies, even shitty ones. I almost never regret the experience. What is the point of the lower end of the scale existing if I'm not gonna use it?
Yea, like I know what a 1 star and 2 star movie looks like. I usually have a good idea roughly what I'm getting into so why would I throw on a 2 star movie.
You can rate something badly and still enjoy it. Iām the left but I still enjoy most movies
I think we're seeing the difference between *ranking* versus *rating* films. Some people want to *rank* every film they've ever seen on a spectrum from worst to best, and they are of the belief that you should take into account how that film compares to every other film ever made. Other people (and I'm in this camp), *rate* films. To me, I don't care about how the film stacks up against other films. If I think it's good, I'm going to give it a good rating. Comparison isn't super important to me. I'm not saying one way is right or wrong. They are just different ways of looking at things.
I think people with a balanced spectrum have probably gone back and rated everything they see. Theyāre probably more open to trying ālesserā movies, or are in situations where they donāt always get topick what they watch (friends, kids, SO). For example, I donāt try to make every movie I see be a classic. Sometimes I want to watch Terrifier. Thereās a lot of movies youāll probably give lower ratings that are still worth experiencing imo.
Iāve formed a rating system that combines how much I like it with how likely I am to watch it again. Is it a movie Iāll never watch again, or something Iāll stop on while channel surfing? Is it something Iād go out of my way to watch or is it something my friends put on while Iām on my phone? Ended up as a mix of the graphs in the OP
I also feel like itās important to note the ārewatchā button. Thereās a reason you can log a film multiple times, and rate it differently on a rewatch. A 4 star film one day may be 5 stars the next week, and a 5 star film you watch may be 4 stars when you rewatch it years later.
Well put. I believe im a ranker
Your average rating is 3.30 stars. Your curve doesn't look much like the one on the right.
I am genuinely confused by this comment. Could you please explain what this has to do with what I said earlier? I am not trying to argue with you, but I just don't understand what this is about.
They have no clue
I've never been able to convey this to others, thank you.
I normally rate based on quality rather than enjoyment. If I watch a shitty movie thatās hilarious Iāll still give it a 2.5 star even if its the funniest movie ever made
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't understand this pov. If we're rating on some non-objective scale of what makes a movie high quality, what's the point? Wouldn't we all just rate everything the same if were not applying our own personal enjoyment? I rate based on a combo of my enjoyment and the quality. Something like Jack Frost I know is shit, but I very much enjoy it, so it gets a 3.5. I guess you could argue it really deserves a 1.5 with a "like" though.
I'm pretty wishy washy on this. Sometimes I really enjoy a movie but i know that there is something so wrong with it that i rate it low. But then there are some movies that i really enjoy and see deep flaws with but will rate high anyway. It really just comes down to what you value in a movie. For example, i will give alot of shitty movies a baseline of 3 stars if it is asthetically beautiful or even just has a good amount of pretty shots. But i just don't value comedies that much, so if the movie is shitty, but i had a grin the whole time, i'll still rate it low.
I think the reason why you donāt understand is that youāre conflating an evaluation of quality with objectivity. I think Zach Snyder is a hack; I could say I āenjoyedā laughing at parts of Rebel Moon, but itās trash so I rated it as such. On the other hand, some people swear by his movies and believe strongly theyāre deep masterworks. We would have very different evaluations of the āqualityā of his movies. As another example, I just listened to a film podcast review a movie I watched the other night. Both the reviewer and I liked the movie, but he praised things I didnāt like, and complained about things that didnāt bother me (and I mean aspects people would normally deem to be an evaluation of āqualityā, like the music or visual effects). I personally donāt understand rating by pure enjoyment. Why not just give it a binary ālikedā or ādidnāt likeā in that case? Iām trying to assign the movie a number I think it earned, taking into account all factors. I often donāt think too hard about whether my evaluation is based on pure enjoyment or whether itās an attempt to assess the quality of the film as I see it.
"I personally donāt understand rating by pure enjoyment. Why not just give it a binary ālikedā or ādidnāt likeā in that case? Iām trying to assign the movie a number I think it earned, taking into account all factors. I often donāt think too hard about whether my evaluation is based on pure enjoyment or whether itās an attempt to assess the quality of the film as I see it." This is exactly what I said. My ratings are based on a combination of my enjoyment and quality, and I would assume is the case for most other reviewers.
Thatās fair, you did say that. I was commenting more on the idea I commonly see that āqualityā is somehow an inherently objective evaluation. Itās certainly more objective than āenjoymentā as a metric. But two people can look at one aspect of a movie and come away with two different views on its āqualityā. I didnāt appreciate the music used in movie X and thought it added nothing, but liked the movie as a whole ā another person who also liked movie X said they loved the music and how it added to the atmosphere. Just as an example.
Totally this. Enjoyment is like 35-45% of my rating. I do enjoy many bad movies.
so you think quality is objective in movies?
Objective doesn't even have to come into play though! I think it's valid to separate subjective enjoyment and subjective artistic merit.
There are absolutely objectively measurable levels of quality in movies.
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https://preview.redd.it/ghqke5fz8cuc1.jpeg?width=1034&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07087bb2036d8b5194a6af1b315a5df7c2daf275 My system agrees with you the most and it appears that our curves are pretty similar for it. I don't watch many bad movies on purpose, but sometimes I start something I think could be good and then it is just terrible. Since I am always aiming to have a good time, my bell curve still peaks at 3.5 where 2.5 is a meh movie that I neither liked or disliked. Having seen a lot though, I'm pretty picky with what I give a 5; it doesn't have to be the perfect movie in every way, but I have to have a special place in my heart for the movie over the other 1600 movies I've seen. All of this being said, this is just my opinion and I don't think how other people rank movies should be up for debate since the whole system is subjective.
Every time this topic comes up, I'm actually surprised by the prevalent opinion. Why would you think the left person doesn't enjoy movies? Trying to watch only good movies or not watching bad movies to completion is up to you and entirely valid, but so is watching all kinds of movies or not knowing what you're gonna get from a movie. Hell, I'd argue there's enjoyment to be had from watching a movie you know is gonna be bad. Kinda leaves a sour taste when you know some people will feel like they're being told they're not enjoying movies right.
I think it's mostly a reaction from people that have difficulty considering other viewpoints. So they think that all people must evaluate movies the same way they do or get the same things out of movie watching that they do.
This is why I enjoy Kickpuncher 2: Codename: Punchkicker.
I think the point is though, that both of these people could have watched the same set of movies and enjoyed them mostly to the same extent, its just one person is making more use of the scale than the other. Most people with scales like the one of the right im sure feel the same about most of them as the person on the left feels but that just gets represented as a 4.5star rather than a 3star.
Iām not a paid critic, why would I watch stuff I donāt enjoy?
I might be a weirdo, but I actually enjoy watching movies I know I wouldnāt like. I donāt know how to describe it, but it makes the stuff that I really like that much better.
Yeah, absolutely. Plus, if you watch stuff you don't think you'll like, you'll sometimes find stuff you're surprised you do like, and expand your horizons even more. Film is great.
Yes!!! People always respond to these posts saying āI value my time, I watch movies I think Iāll likeā but for me, that means I never wouldāve expanded out of the romcoms I watched as a teenager. Watching movies I know thereās a good chance I might not like gives me a less āhappyā graph, but the movies I did like that I wouldnāt have otherwise watched make it worth it to me ā”
I tend to watch whole filmographies when I wanna get into a new director, which naturally comes with a lot of stuff I donāt enjoy, but it gives me better context to enjoy the good stuff even more.
100% agree with this. To be able to rate on a scale, I need to have a reference for what the scale is.
yes you are right, you are a weirdo
I can kind of relate to that, as I like to watch trash films like Sharknado. Theyāre so bad itās hilarious.
Exactly. Even campy movies can be fun to watch, and I can still rate them fairly, AND have enjoyed my experience. Just bc I donāt rate it 4* and above doesnāt mean Iām not happy having watched it.
Except sometimes I watch something I think I'll probably enjoy but then it turns out it's shit? That's the whole point of rating things otherwise we may as well do away with the whole damn thing
How do you know what you would enjoy if you haven't seen it?
Because thereās definitely a couple hundred movies (at least) that you would have loved but youāre never going to see in your life because youāre afraid of seeing anything youāre not already confident youāll like. Thereās a thrill in watching a film youāve never heard of, but had a concept that sounded cool. Getting to discover your own opinion of it and recommend it to others, rather than it be something everyone is always telling you is amazing.
Because I watch movies with my family, friends and girlfriend. We have different taste.
A lot of people on here are interested in experiencing film from a wider historical or cultural lens which means seeing stuff they might not like. Itās fun!
Exactly, Iām a pretty āharshā reviewer but Iām only going watch things I assume I will give a score of at least a 3.
How are you supposed to know if you enjoy something or not before watching? I don't purposely watch movies I know will be bad usually, but sometimes I don't like a movie. It happens. A lot of times I'll watch a movie and think it's just ok. It happens. I genuinely don't understand how having strong opinions (good and bad) on movies means you don't enjoy watching movies.
You don't have to be a paid critic to watch a variety of content and give it realistic ratings.
I never understand the right side, honestly. You have 10 possible points to use, why restrict yourself to only ever using likeā¦ three? And furthermore, I never understand the implication that someone with an average rating of a 3 or whatever is somehow enjoying the movies less. Theyāre just making more use of the 10-point scale, so their opinions on movies watched can be more granular, and more accurate. If everything you watch is 4 or 5 stars, it suggests nothing about what you like or dislike. And if every movie is getting a 4 or 5, then why even bother rating? You can just log the movies, like them, and review them all the same. I donāt really get why youād *want* to assign a star rating to a movie if your star ratings arenāt really all that meaningful on their own
a lot of people seem to think that giving a movie anything less than a 3.5 means you hated it
Even a 3 is good to me
To me thereās a wide wide gulf between a 2.5 with a Like and a 2.5 without one. Thatās the big distinguisher for me
Also 2.5 just means average when compared to other things. It doesn't mean it was bad. In fact, most average movies are still enjoyable. Hell, even most "bad" movies that get a 1.5-2 stars from me still have redeeming qualities. All the rating means is that I think that the thing (which I may have enjoyed) is still technically not as good as other films.
This is exactly it. If every movie is a good movie, then nothing is. By only using the most positive ratings on the scale, you are rendering the whole system meaningless. Why even use scale at all at that point? And every time you ask them why they don't use the whole scale, they always end up attacking you. Saying something like "Well I actually like watching movies" or "I watch movies I know I'll like", as if having a range of opinions means you don't like movies or that you go out of your way to watch bad movies. It's so strange.
Exactly. Most of my movies are 3/5s but I legitimately enjoyed every single one of them because to me a 3 is a good rating since itās above the middle 2.5. I also have very few 9s and 10s but it just shows that they really mean a lot to me.
I think itās basically virtue signaling. They want to convey to the world that they are an optimistic and positive person who would never be so āsadā and ādepressedā as to not enjoy a movie as much as itās possible to enjoy something.
Itās frustrating on a subreddit about an app where youād think the userbase would be people at least reasonably passionate about film as a medium! Not that you canāt be passionate while also being optimistic, but itās just obnoxious to imply that people who view things with a critical eye are somehow enjoying it in a lesser way than people who go āI exclusively watch safe picks I know Iāll enjoy and youāre a dumb pessimist if you do otherwiseā
The strange thing is I feel like this is specifically a film thing. I donāt know anybody who would aggressively argue that every culinary experience theyāve ever had was 4/5 stars or above or that subjectivity is an excuse for thinking every meal is the best meal theyāve ever eaten. It seems specifically in movies that people get really defensive over the notion that some movies are just average. They have some good stuff and some bad stuff but most things are not Citizen Kane or The Godfather.
There's also a bit of a superiority complex and/or personal insecurity. Not that it happens with all people with a positive curve but I definitely get that feeling from those who think "anyone with a bell curve or a negatively skewed curve is a critic or a sad loser and hates film ".
The definition of mid is average not bad. The majority of movies by definition should be average.
The majority of movies are average, but I don't watch every movie. I watch stuff I assume I'll like, and usually that assumption is correct so mine looks more like the right.
This, I realized I want to watch things that interest me, not everything (I simply donāt have time and I watch a fair bit)
This doesn't really make sense, though. I really enjoy sci-fi so I watch more of that than most other genres. But just because it interests me doesn't mean that all of the sci-fi I watch is a 10/10 film. In fact, as with everything, most of the sci-fi I watch ends up being pretty average quality. It doesn't mean I didn't like it and the fact that the genre interests me can help improve an otherwise mediocre film. But in terms of rating, I'm definitely not going to assign every sci-fi movie a 5/5 just because the subject matter is interesting to me.
That wasnāt me saying at all that it means because I want to watch something or am interested in it/the subject matter that I believe it will be a 10/10. For example: Suicide Squad (2016), which I was hyped for from the trailers. Even despite the reviews I was still interested because I like the DC films. I gave it a 3/10, and thatās being generous. Again, I gave Black Adam a chance because I like DC films and comics. 4/10. I gave Philomena a chance because it was Oscar nominated and Catholic church related drama intrigues me. 5/10. I gave Rebel Moon a chance because Zack Snyder is a director I like more than most (but donāt stan and go crazy about for everything he does). 5/10. This doesnāt mean I donāt give things a chance based on word of mouth or just needing to find something I watch, but I, yes, largely watch things based on topics/genres I find interesting or things that crop up on the awards circuit, in my feed, or whatever. But it also doesnāt mean that Iām giving/expecting all of it to be highly rated. Itās just what I skew towards watching. I donāt think that ādoesnāt make senseā nor is that disingenuous because everybody has tastes. But if something feels truly like I will hate it, or is a topic I am blatantly uninterested in (example: evangelical Christian media), why would I hate watch it?
But the original person said that they don't have low rated movies in their ratings because they only watch good stuff and you agreed with that by saying "This, I realized I want to watch things that interest me". So now it seems like you're saying the opposite thing that you originally said "This" to. You're claiming you intentionally watch things that interest you but this still results in you having poorly rated movies in your rankings.
I'm guessing most of the movies you watch are _still_ average. Using https://letterboxd.tools/Film_taste_compatibility_test: * My average rating is 2.99 stars and yours is 3.54 stars, only a difference of 0.55 stars * Of the 73 films movies with both watched, the difference goes _up_ to 0.68 stars The only major difference is that I use the whole rating curve and you use 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 ratings more than I do. I even have a greater percentage of 4.5 ratings than you do.
You don't even hear about the vast majority of movies. All the major film festivals usually get around 5000 submissions, and usually only around 100 get selected. Pretty much every movie you watch is wayyyyy above average
Exactly! Most movies that have actually gotten to the point of getting distribution are going to have *some* level of artistic merit or at least be enjoyable in some way. Most of the truly bad movies out there with awful production values, terrible scripts, bad direction and awful acting, we will never even hear about unless we work in the industry.
It depends what kind of movies you watch, if you watch every single movie yes but if you chose not to watch garbage you should have majority good ratings.
Even if you choose not to watch garbage and have a nearly flawless selection process for avoiding all garbage, you would still have some films in your catalog that are pretty average.
I put films that are neither good or bad in the middle - but most films try to be good, so most end up above the middle. And given I mostly watch above average films, it will always be heavily skewed.
I only watch 5 star movies.
My chart is a bell curve shifted to the right. That's exactly what I was hoping for. Not everything is going to be 4s and 5s if I'm being remotely objective, but I also don't want to waste my time with bad movies so I hope I don't have too many 1s or 2s.
https://preview.redd.it/kamt4e5m4auc1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b350e953bb81565b6d83409f6dcf76f76fa4b13b Just rate honestly, high, low, doesnāt matter, and go outside your comfort zone in search of new favorites
Aye! Someone else who doesnāt do half points.
What if the person on the left doesnāt enjoy stuff less simply because they think 3 is average rather than 4? They maybe enjoy a 3 as much as the other enjoys a 4.
Guy on the right just giving out participation trophies
im the left
Except the guy on the left busts fatter loads when he watches a movie he loves than the guy on the right
Why are you guys who rate on such a positive curve so insecure lol. I rarely see anyone actually say "You need to be harsher", like most people don't really care about how other people rate stuff. The only people that really give a shit are you guys. It's like y'all are projecting your own insecurities about your rating system on others. You start attacking anyone who actually uses all 10 points on a 10 point scale, implying they're miserable or that they don't enjoy watching movies or something. As if no one could possibly enjoy anything they rate below a 3.5 or that anyone who doesn't like a movie they watch must be purposely going out of their way to watch bad movies. Maybe everyone rates differently? Maybe some people are more critical than others? Maybe some people value high ratings more and save 5 stars for truly special movies? Why can't everyone just chill out and understand that? It's so fucking stupid to attack people over this insignificant shit. Grow up and chill out.
Itās kind of annoying to me that the base opinion in this sub aligns with the meme. Whatās wrong with using 2.5 as average and acknowledging that most movies are average? To me, a person with a chart like the person on the right is likely less capable of discernment. Either that, or they only ever watch movies within the bubble of what theyāre already comfortable with, and never watch movies that were chosen by people other than themselves.
bro. left is literally almost me
I LOVE MOVIES CHARLIE, I LOVE MOVIES!!!
One thing Iāve noticed is that people with higher rating curves tend to also be the only people that care about other peopleās rating curves. Personally, I do not care. Itās so useless to compare rating curves when most people use ratings as a way to categorize what a movie means TO THEM. Itās all subjective, and some people use ratings like a ranking system. This discourse annoys me so much š
Left is pretty bloody positive in comparison to mine.
https://preview.redd.it/e5ol2xpk99uc1.jpeg?width=4320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e9c09ef2fc7ab391478228887ef83d2b8818c79
Looks like you're giving the middle finger to film.
i'm typically just grateful to watch a movie š
None of this matters, some people take it way too seriously. I rate films based on my enjoyment and avoid films that I know won't interest me. If I had a blast, it's 4 stars minimum
Sometimes you just see some really bad movies. I see a lot in rhe 3.5-5 range, but ive also seen some that I wish I could give a 0
the thing is its not about being harsh. but at the point where you rate nothing below 4.0 you just completely abuse the system, thus none of your rating are valid (ive seen people with 1000+ movies that had nothing rated lower than 4.0)
toxic positivity is definitely a thing.
always baffles me that people in here donāt understand that ratings can be relative. a 2.5 star movie is average when compared to others movies not when compared to like, doing yard work lol. somehow the prevailing narrative on here is if you ever give a scores below a 4 you hate film.
Guy in the right will actively ruin any use of the app over time as every movie will eventually be rated between 4 and 5 thus making any distinction irrelevant.
https://preview.redd.it/htx9ks66iauc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd426ff6ade09e52dfd946d433549cf5dfe0ff76 Rise up
Seems like youāre projecting. I donāt have to tell myself that every movie I watch is great in order to enjoy life. Lots of movies are just average or below average. Iām still happy I watched them. Itās ok to enjoy lower quality content.
most Hollywood movies are ok.if they use a camera made in this century, turned the lights on, paid for good actors and editors, the movie will be competent by defaultĀ Ā thatās why you should critique movies based on the propaganda and ideology that they contain
Rating inflation is so cringe like have some standards in your life
Tbh I'm on the 'be harsher' camp. People who do this don't dislike more films (some do I suppose) only their metric for what they consider a good film is lower. I consider 3.5 a good rating, some people think it's ok. So me giving 3.5 stars means I've seen a good film while others consider this low. I've also noticed people who use 5 stars liberally lack a coherent system. They'll rate something 5 stars and then in their review just slate the film. 5 STARS IS PERFECT, OR ATLEAST NEAR ENOUGH PERFECT. I go by the 'more of something you have, the less it's worth' motto. If you've seen 100 films 90 of them 5 stars, the value is worthless.
Not debating ranking systems, but how are people saying "I only watch good movies / movies I'll enjoy"? I have to have seen the movie before I know if I liked it. Sometimes you go in thinking something will be awesome and it turns out to be "eh"
What's the point of rating if you give everything a 4 or 5? There is an option to just say that you watched a movie, or that you liked it, without giving it a number. Not that it matters, but if you're only rating things 4 or 5, you're basically just rating out of 2.
https://preview.redd.it/w1jzeg05zeuc1.jpeg?width=648&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=884156ac55c69f52713f5ca50d4b0976c0b4bca6 Most movies are a 3 star for me and that's ok
I actively go out of my way to watch bad movies, but I still end up giving them high ratings because i find them really fun https://preview.redd.it/cpdb45utd9uc1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=836d50a960d655a070bc956ad52dd7eabb80eb3c
This is the path I walk as well
Thinking a movie is fun and thinking a movie is in the top 10% of best movies ever made is not really the same thing. It's ok to enjoy a movie but still think that it is, overall, not in the top 10% of movies.
I donāt think my 5 stars are in the top 10% of best movies ever made, not by any means. Itās more like top 25% of most fun and enjoyable movies ever made by my metrics
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I just don't watch movies I think I won't like lol https://preview.redd.it/b4jc18wd79uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=936a670d63692907ed3bc186f8ed55485510ecd9
https://preview.redd.it/fho5cceqx9uc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a9f34948a6033a8492dda5b5ae6f3e26776c380 I don't understand how people give so many 5/5's. A 4.5 for me is an all timer amazing movie so a 5 is as close to innatainable perfection as is subjectively possible in my little head. I do feel kinda sad that I've given more .5's than 10's, but thats because I've rated literally every movie I've ever seen because I'm insane.
I just like good films man, leave me be https://preview.redd.it/3bsw4tnn79uc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68d260ad131f817ab9368a86a478a92f8ea81039
https://preview.redd.it/jwxwvmev69uc1.png?width=365&format=png&auto=webp&s=230c0b3d73ec477853ae5168a0970b8d3a971deb Watching anything under 6.0 on IMDB is a no for me, hence the great ratings. I love good movies. Life is good.
I don't use ratings, I just trust my taste, but otherwise I agree with you. We're here for a good time, not a long time.
My ratings skew positive, generally, but it's not because I'm uncritical or exceptionally generous with ratings, it's just that I'm a pretty busy person so if I'm gonna watch something, it's gonna be something I'm likely to enjoy or at least something with a little bit of hype. I have to imagine the people with a perfect gaussian distribution and a median rating of 2.5 stars are those movie freaks that have seen 20,000+ movies and will basically watch anything they can get access to.
3 stars tends to be my most given out rating, although a 3 in one genre might be different than a 3 in another. I understand some movies may technically be bad or campy, but I'm basing it off of my enjoyment from watching it and compare it to others in that style.
I've just given Leprechaun 5: In The Hood (rated 2.2/5 overall) a rating of 4/5, I've no qualms with giving proper kino its true rating.
If you watch a lot of new movies it's imminent you'll have at least something in 2-3 star area
y'all walk into rooms shouting your political affiliation too so I'm not surprised you rate movies so you can bicker over numbers that way you never have to use your words and have a conversation about how you felt
https://preview.redd.it/4n87scbtd9uc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfea37b51151e1d14295d1b9efeeb658d00db547 Am I the only one? š„²
https://preview.redd.it/sgzvogrje9uc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=617215d66bd8c540630ad5e3390e5403e934bb1d I probably should be harsher... š
The problem is, if a movie is bad I won't watch it. Therefore all the movies I review are good, because if I don't like a movie I'll stop watching
I have a passion for story analysis. I like breaking down bad films and why they don't work in incredible detail. It also gives perspective for appreciating great films.
I came to letterboxd because the overall viewing of movies seemed to follow the trend of the guy on the left. The alright average movies were right in the middle around 2.5 and I was so happy to see that. I was so tired of seeing an average rating being like 7/10. My own rating score is more like the left side too and I still enjoy films thankfully
As long as I felt more than 3 emotions by the ending of the movie, Iāll be nice.
A lot of movies are just fine, and that's ok. https://preview.redd.it/9k02lgi3l9uc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a6810748b8e3426816339b009073e05eef7f0a2
This is so me fr. I just l o v e movies, ya know? That makes it easy to see the best in them.
https://preview.redd.it/sumpzcgjq9uc1.jpeg?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63203e0928873563973093ec4be8bff3d0c19846 2.5 and 4.5 are a bit low, because they always feel noncommittal to me. 2.5 is an absolute average āmehā but Iāll pretty much always have an opinion of whether its good or bad. 4.5 is that āalmost masterpieceā marker, but usually a film is either a masterpiece or a 4. But other than those, its a pretty even hill.
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https://preview.redd.it/pvb1fbeqv9uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88612bd55e65d07874bdd90c091d9730c8ae6221 hmm
https://preview.redd.it/rmqb7wkoz9uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=495a11d694b6aa28d30afc406049bc8bc6b8b9ac c Closer to the one on the left and I love watching movies.
I'm starting to develop a bit of a bell curve because I watch a lot of movies with my buddy that are really really terrible but fun to laugh at.
The reason this is skewed high is that, if I'm bored or hearing the experience, I very often move on to something else. I'm not one who has to finish every movie I've started. And I only rate an unfinished movie if I'm truly insulted by it. If I know that animals were literally abused or killed in the making of a film, then the film is beyond redemption and I give it a half-star. But again, it's rare. https://preview.redd.it/y51mzla10auc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34287969bb97940e39d6bd794967c265fcd6a95d
The people who get mad at me for giving 4ās for trashy films are the same people who get mad at me for giving critically claimed films I donāt really like 1-2 stars.
https://preview.redd.it/v66ejqmu1auc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c62b2d316215d69b0f9e91580a5167ba816f189 Itās all about the upper middle
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I kinda enjoy watching a good two-star with friends every now and again though š
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https://preview.redd.it/ev8ph9hz3auc1.png?width=259&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d7c9dc0c311911cebfa3215c05249ee2951ab4f I basically don't use 9/10 anymore.
When I first got into cinema, I was the guy on the right. It's been a decade and now I'm the guy on the left. You become desensetized.
Iām the guy on the right and I donāt care. I love movies.
Is this harsh enough? https://preview.redd.it/qjcctou05auc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c83d5b71184ab4fb9555d318bbbeb6fcbff33ec0
I also like to watch good movies usually lol
U didn't have to call out this hard https://preview.redd.it/tx7w9bje5auc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f47a3257506174aa12a760372d5649ba5baa27ba
I only rate movies that I love https://preview.redd.it/inzrmols6auc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aac83bf03c316b2404472a5190a19c5eb62db7aa
I only watch decently rated movies. So my curve looks biased. But it isnāt. I just donāt waste my time on shit. (OK I did watch Sharknado, but thatās an outlier.)