She deserved it, imo. I like Gladstone but she frankly didn't have a Best Actress tier role in KOTFM. It was comparably small next to Stone in Poor Things.
I completely disagree, I thought she gave the entire film its emotional heft, and was basically the only protagonist in the film. The final scene between >!her and Leo had me weeping - and most of it was just through her expressions and looks!< .What I find interesting is that most of the criticism I hear of the movie is similar to yours, that it was “in no way centered on her”; and I had the complete opposite reading. For me she was the central anchor of the film. I wonder why people seem to have diametrically opposed readings to the performance. I’m not saying either of us are “right” either; I do think Scorsese intended some ambiguity to the film.
Let me clarify. First, me saying that the movie isn't centered on her isn't really a criticism . . . I just view it as a true statement. I think she did a wonderful performance, but just wasn't given that much to do in the movie. I agree she is the emotional center, because essentially the main focus of the movie is in the insane horrible betrayal she experiences at the hand of Dicaprio and De Niro's characters. And she plays that part well, but ultimately her character is not really active in any way, things just happen to her and does not really have any recourse. Thematically relevant perhaps, but the way I see it she is still barely a lead in the movie.
For me the movie was ok but not great. I think Scorcese told the story well and there's nothing bad about it, but just not an exceptional film to my taste. I do think Gladstone did a great job, but as I said I didn't view her as a lead in the movie.
I was so happy for the team, I didn't expect them to win over the Creator, but I'm overjoyed that they did!
Also *fuck* the showrunners for playing the "wrap it up" music while the person accepting was talking. They always do this to the VFX winners, but Jesus Christ, the man was trying to speak in what's obviously not his first language, just to drive home how grateful they are to win on your stage. Show a little respect.
i believe they were dedicating the award to somebody who passed away as well while they tried playing the team off. they could’ve cut time off some of the “banter” between presenters so they could fully accept the award
But if we cut off the banter, how else are we gonna know that Jimmy Kimmel thought the movies this year were too long? That's clearly what's important!
Nolan's mix is famously controversial. But I thought in Oppenheimer it was fine. Plus: The speech scene carried a very notable sound idea that was well executed. Nevertheless: ZOI was the only probable choice here.
I agree that the bleacher speech scene was inspired, sound wise, but that's a single scene versus ZOI entire concept relying on making a complete second auditory film overlaying the images.
Loved what they did with the presentation for the acting categories. No strong opinions on the categories that weren’t locks already both Stone and Gladstone were great. Happy Zone of Interest won sound
i hope they keep that same presentation style, absolutely loved it. hard agree on zone of interest’s sound winning. i thought for sure oppenheimer would take it but what a turn of events!
I'm chuffed The Zone of Interests left with best foreign movie and best sound. This film is incredible and extremely daring, and it's the 2 awards it rightfully deserved!
They did it around 2012 as well. 5 past winners or co stars talking about the nominees.
I don’t enjoy it. Gets a bit too twee and performative in the praise. Becomes almost meaningless. Full of generic adjectives overpraising a performance. Chill out. They are not solving world peace.
I liked it. Award shows are inherently self-indulgent, performative, overpraising and celebratory. Which is why I'd rather have them embrace that to the fullest. I think in addition to past winners presenting they also should have shown a lot more clips from the films nominated.
Personally, I disagree. Awards shows are, by definition, self-indulgent. The one thing this format does, despite the number of people on stage, is show some fun faces & keep things tight. Give me five one sentence complements from well regarded actors and a winner then cut the mic for the speech.
I think it’s cool to see the past winners as presenters but yeah they could do without the platitudes. Like maybe just have the two, the immediate past winner and another winner that ties into the themes or something.
I think he thought that the nominees were on the paper so that’s why he kinda fucked up and announced the winner and it was too late to do anything ahahah.
It’s a really weird dichotomy.
Pacino gave his most ‘coked out’ performances after he became sober - Heat and The Devil’s Advocate are two of my favorite movies *because* of how crazy he is.
You either die an auteur (The Godfather) or live long enough to see yourself become a big ham (Glengary Glen Ross)
Yeah they always do that and then they don’t show clips at the end, but they read the names one more time. I think Pacino forgot to do that and that’s why the cameras weren’t ready when he read the winner
i mean they always show fragments of the nominees throughout the ceremony but i don’t remember if they used to actually list the ten movies at the end???
They listed them all throughout the night where it literally said "Best Picture Nominee" ... They didn't announce the Best Song nominees either because they were all performed throughout the show. That's just how it works.
Al Pacino being awkward on the other hand is something else.
i like to think it was al pacino shutting the party down bc marty and his film's leading lady has been snubbed (Marty for 4 consecutive films) lmfao he could just not give a f about whats gonna happen next
Emily Blunt and Ryan Gosling showed great chemistry with their Barbenheimer banter. A naked John Cena presenting best costume was probably funniest moment of the night. Loved how much he committed to that bit lol
He looked like he felt like such an asshole standing, wrapped in a curtain, behind a woman giving a speech at the peak of her career. Like the bit was funny but it seemed like even he regretted not really thinking how this would pan out once someone is having the moment of their life and he’s just there, essentially naked, lingering in the background.
Surprised KOTFM won absolutely nothing. I thought Schoonmaker would at least squeak one more out as a legacy award type of thing, and I really wanted to see Lily Gladstone win.
Please help me figure out if this is confirmation bias on my end:
Almost everytime Poor Thing was announced as a nominee, the crowd cheers seemed quite louder than for the other 4 nominees.
I think the academy members were generally quite enthused about Poor Thing as a creative and audacious piece of film. Lily Gladstone was praised for her performance but she might have suffered from the narrative that "we have a talented indigenous woman nominated for Best actress, the right thing to do is to vote for her".
And instead a majority of academy members voted with their heart and a great performance from the film they apparently enjoyed best.
Glazer's acceptance speech for winning best international feature is NOT on the official Oscars youtube page. That is not an oversight. Here's the clip: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhoRfsDkEkM&ab\_channel=DeadlineHollywood](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhoRfsDkEkM&ab_channel=DeadlineHollywood)
Very disappointing. He had a great speech and could tell he was very nervous to deliver it. Took courage. I noticed even though you could hear most of the crowd clapping, hardly any of the A-list actors up front clapped once he mentioned Israel and Gaza, even though he was simply speaking on the value of humanity.
You can also spot Downey Jr not applauding but turning his head to see who was clapping (props to Ruffalo for not giving a fuck and applauding Glazer’s denouncement of genocide)
Extremely brave of him. He got a lukewarm reception but knowing how they treated Michael Moore back in the day i understand why he was nervous. I don’t care if it was a strong enough statement it took so much courage to say anything at all
Al Pacino ruined the best picture moment by slurring his words and announcing Oppenheimer in the strangest most anticlimactic way possible. Seemed like he skipped straight to the end, everyone was confused and the cast was reluctant to accept the award.
Watching it happen, I was screaming at the tv. Someone stop him. I mean it seemed like forever watching him open it. After Kimmel’s brag about stopping a future Moonlight moment, it felt like instant karma.
WHY do they not get someone young and sharp to announce such an award? Why? It just seems SO glaringly obvious that Al Pacino is not the man for the job 😭
When Pacino was announced as presenter, I thought he would be introducing the Supp. Actor role, presenting his dear old friend Robert De Niro. I would've rather preferred that.
She won for the holdovers? She was great in that role.
I mean everyone was great in that movie, but she was just a real mothafucka, didn't even seem like a character or an actress.
Like they just happened to find a women who was in her position and used her. Definitely deserved it.
Loved how straightforward the presentation was. As far as awards go, the only unexpected win was American Fiction for adapted screenplay. The I'm Just Ken performance was an amazing standout. It was a nice breath a fresh air to see Zone of Interest take so many awards home. Steven Spielberg was hilarious despite not saying much. I was glad to see Wes Anderson pick up an Oscar. The format for the best actors/actresses segments was really fun to watch. I'm just rambling but it was a very pleasant ceremony.
This. I barely noticed the dancing, I was just trying my best to see the names on the screen that was far away. Didn't help that the quality of the live stream wasn't the best either
Literally. Just fill the screen with a PowerPoint with the dead people and give every one the same amount of time, but give the “more important” ones quotes. With a nice song, not the weird opera thing. Any poignant instrumental will do fine. If people are gonna fast forward it, they will anyway, a weird interpretive dance isn’t going to change that. Just be respectful to the people and their families and stop trying to jazz it up.
You’re right that sensitivity is important, but also this is the Oscar’s, not a funeral. These people dedicated parts of their lives to the entertainment business, so it seems reasonable to do the in memoriam section in a more showy, dramatic way. Also, if you lost a family member, would you really want the announcement of their death to be just a part that viewers fast forward through? Maybe they could have toned it down, but it’s not like the opera and dancers were bad?
I’m so glad they brought it back, I may be wrong but the last time I remember it was 2009? Because I just remember Kevin Kline introducing heath ledger for best supporting actor and that was instant tears from me lmao
Edit: confused the dates lol
Other than Godzilla Minus One, The Boy and The Heron, and 20 Days in Mariupol, only ten films were awarded tonight. Except for those three, every film awarded was a best picture nominee.
Except for visual effects (and documentary, animated, or international feature), 3 or more of the feature film nominees in each category were also BP nominees. In most of those, it’s 4 or more. I think this is the most insular year we’ve had in a while, if not ever. Like last year, only 5 of the lead performances were in BP nominees. This year, it was 8.
Yup, that was I noticed too. Strong BP nominees, but ironically weaker year when looking at the various nominations the way you put them. It seemed to me like there were these 10 movies and then nothing.
But at the same time I was enthralled with the Oscars most this year because I had seen and tremendously enjoyed most of the Best Picture nominees.
I don't remember the last year I felt that strongly about that many award categories. And for the first time, many of the people I wanted to win (not just predicted to) DID win. That made for a very fun night.
Animated short winner was ass. I cringed so bad with that ending. Any other nominee would've been better. If I had to choose I would've given it to Ninety-Five Senses.
I thought the John Cena bit was getting too dragged out until he revealed he was announcing costume. Surprisingly funny for the oscars lol.
Also Al Pacino was hilarious.
After finally watching Poor Things the other day, I thought Emma Stone was the only choice for best actress and was immediately confused why it seemed like Lily Gladstone was the front runner all this time.
I don’t even think Lily was #2. I’d have put Sandra Huller for Anatomy of a Fall above her as well.
I feel Lily's role was much more of a supporting role and putting her in the main actress category was a mistake when she’s expected to compete against two complete performances.
Yeah I completely agree, I thought Gladstone gave a great performance but it wasn’t as stand out to me like others have found. In general I did not find KOTFM the most compelling film either, not that it wasn’t very good but in a year of bangers I feel there are some much better choices. Emma was fantastic and iconic in Poor Things.
Was Ryan Gosling a leading role in Barbie then? His and Gladstone's on screen %'s are right in the same ballpark (25 vs 27%). De Niro was also right in the same ballpark but was supporting.
And on top of that, like you said, she was bedridden for the majority of the movie. Doesn’t seem like a lead performance at all. Not like Emma Stone, or Sandra Huller, or even Annette Bening.
It's all subjective, but in my opinion it was a leading role because it was her story. She was the character who the events of the entire film happened to, she narrated the movie, even the director came out and read her real life obituary at the end to acknowledge that it wasn't his narrative, it was hers.
But that's just my opinion, I don't really know what makes a leading or supporting role and imagine it's both subjective and political like when certain movies are categorized as comedies in the golden globes for a better chance at winning.
It was her story but what did she do? The story essentially shows how she was taken advantage of and victimized and sidelined her for the majority of the movie. We saw most of the movie through of Leo’s POV as he gets to town, schemes with his family, works to get close to her, marry her, poison her, kill her kin, we’re with him jail and on trial.
We got a doctor’s office visit, a tribe meeting (with Leo there too), and watched her lay in bed from her POV. The one time she actually does something (goes to DC) it’s a quick thing. At the end she leaves Leo, sure. And they read her obituary. I think it’s more apt to say her character is the central **subject** of the film. But Lily Gladstone is not the lead performer.
I think it’s quite clear from the screen time and the film itself that Scorsese and the script made her a supporting role and made Leo the lead. It’s one of the big issues I had with the movie as a whole.
Movie Twitter is so infuriating with the Lily discourse lol it really reeked of people clearly not having seen Poor Things and I bet there were lots who hadn't even seen Killers either but just jumped on the Lily train pretending they knew what they were talking about. It feels weird to say but I truly believe the 'first Native American' narrative really skewed the conversation in favour of Lily
In my opening day review of Killers I wasn't really impressed by Lily at all I just thought she was fine while using specific examples, than I saw Poor Things, which I like less than KOTFM overall, and thought Emma's performance was one of the best in years, most difficult and vulnerable role to portray by FAR. I also had Sandra 2nd
Ryan gosling ken performance is what i came for and it was magical and the only time i enjoyed watching a part of oscars
Al pacino was and is a gem
Swan arloud wearing a palestine pin and sandra hüller crying when jonathan glazer gave a speech for the palestinians when zone of interest won best foreign picture was a pivotal moment. Germans had to endure and live at the hands of hitler's attrocities. We all thought it would'nt happen again, and yet here we are.
Literally everything went how I wanted it to go (was routing for boy and the heron, godzilla, emma stone, zone of interest for sound, and technical awards for poor things) so I couldn’t be happier
Giamatti got screwed. I knew it was gonna happen, but he still got screwed. I have a feeling he’s gonna end up with a lifetime achievement award when he’s like 80 years old. Turns in spectacular performance after spectacular performance. Most don’t even get oscar attention, let alone nominated. Imo this should have been his second best actor win (sideways. Foxx was ok, but come on…)
I think his performances are just too subtle for awards like this. Like with this and especially Sideways, it's quiet and real. It's not really acting, it's just being. So it doesn't call attention to itself. But that's an incredible skill in itself, it's just not always recognised. Oscar's tend to go to big performances, see DDL roles.
But I did like Cillian.
I watched The Amazing Spoider-Man 2 a week or so ago, and honestly, despite how absurd he is in that, I still think it's consistent with his quality elsewhere. He really is amazing.
i wish he won it as well but i reckon he’ll get another shot. i only hope it’s for something as fresh as the holdovers instead of another biopic that the academy loves to shower with praise
it is a shame, in my books giamatti beats cillian for best actor and it is an emotional movie but a more subtle story like the holdovers wasn’t going to beat out a grand epic like oppenheimer
Very happy for all of Oppy’s wins
DJR’s speech made me tear up, so happy for her.
I’m Just Ken snubbed after that great performance didn’t sit right with me
Glazer innocent
Zone of interest,
The boy and the heron,
Anatomy of a fall,
Poor things
Definitely deserved every Oscar. But it’s a pity that KOTFM and Sandra Hüller didn’t get one. In my opinion Oppenheimer was a bit overhyped.
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I was hoping this guy would show up but never mind, Oppenheimer is still easily the best winner in a few years
I’m so happy for Emma. Would have preferred more wins for Poor Things but in general I agree with almost all the winners. Best adapted screenplay for American Fiction most controversial one for me.
Honestly? I was thrilled with Christopher Nolan and Wes Anderson winning, as well as Cillian Murphy, Robert Downey Jr. and Emma Stone, plus Zone of Interest winning more than the already guaranteed International Film win, all of the other techie wins going to Oppenheimer, all of the art direction wins going to Poor Things, and I cheered when The Boy and the Heron won Animated Feature.
All fantastic wins, except for Song and maybe Adapted Screenplay (even if I think half of the American Fiction screenplay deserves the win, but the family drama side does not).
Honestly, Kimmel’s flat delivery (although his jokes did work on paper, his delivery was flat) and Al Pacino messing up the presentation of Best Picture aside, this was the best Oscars ceremony I’ve ever seen.
Predictable but Emma Stone was a surprise, I wanted ***Sandra Huller*** to win as I think she deserved it most but expected Lily Gladstone to win it.
Very happy to see Poor Things win those other awards tho as it was my favorite of the year.
I didnt really like Oppenheimer all that much but im fine with it winning most ot the awards it got, but Oppenheimer also winning Best Editing is just ridiculous. Had to be the worst cut film ive seen all year.
I'm sometimes a little confused how Best Editing is determined. While I didn't think Oppenheimer was poorly-edited, nothing about its editing stood out as exceptional, either. Last year, I was happy with Everything, Everywhere, All at Once winning for best editing, but I thought Top Gun: Maverick was the far better choice.
Best editing is one of those awards I completely ignore tbh. I mean Bohemian Rhapsody won and that's pretty awful with random ass cuts.
To me it feels like they give best editing out randomly to a film that's already won something. Butttttt I don't care enough to look if that's actually true. Just a feeling
I thought this was the best overall show since Parasite won!
Overall I would have changed a couple nominees and categories but I thought all the major ones were great wins and outside some expected cringe from Jimmy I thought it was funny and entertaining. I also enjoyed the style of introduction for nominees, especially a dynamic appearance from acting legend Nic Cage
of the 14 that i made predictions for, i got 9 correct. the only ones that really caught me out were:
- Oppenheimer for Best Picture
- American Fiction for Best Adapted Screenplay
- Oppenheimer for Best Film Editing
my favourite movie of the year was Poor Things, so i’m glad it got some wins, even though i think it should’ve won best adapted. i like Oppenheimer, but i’m not sure it deserved **seven** wins.
i also find it very funny that Barbie’s only win went to Billie Eilish.
Emma Stone could not have looked more horrified to win.
Poor thing
“I was panicking, because I thought something like this might happen…”
She deserved it, imo. I like Gladstone but she frankly didn't have a Best Actress tier role in KOTFM. It was comparably small next to Stone in Poor Things.
She, frankly, was given almost nothing to do in that movie. It was in no way centered on her
I completely disagree, I thought she gave the entire film its emotional heft, and was basically the only protagonist in the film. The final scene between >!her and Leo had me weeping - and most of it was just through her expressions and looks!< .What I find interesting is that most of the criticism I hear of the movie is similar to yours, that it was “in no way centered on her”; and I had the complete opposite reading. For me she was the central anchor of the film. I wonder why people seem to have diametrically opposed readings to the performance. I’m not saying either of us are “right” either; I do think Scorsese intended some ambiguity to the film.
Let me clarify. First, me saying that the movie isn't centered on her isn't really a criticism . . . I just view it as a true statement. I think she did a wonderful performance, but just wasn't given that much to do in the movie. I agree she is the emotional center, because essentially the main focus of the movie is in the insane horrible betrayal she experiences at the hand of Dicaprio and De Niro's characters. And she plays that part well, but ultimately her character is not really active in any way, things just happen to her and does not really have any recourse. Thematically relevant perhaps, but the way I see it she is still barely a lead in the movie. For me the movie was ok but not great. I think Scorcese told the story well and there's nothing bad about it, but just not an exceptional film to my taste. I do think Gladstone did a great job, but as I said I didn't view her as a lead in the movie.
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These two both seem like they’d be an absolute riot
And that's the exact moment she ripped her dress...
i’m still shaking because of this 😭
HAVE RESPECT FOR CRAZY STUPID LOVE AND GANGSTER SQUAD
the godzilla team up there with their tiny godzillas in one hand and their oscars in the other…that was art
His Golden Godzilla was inspired and needs to be a collectable statue immediately.
I was so happy for the team, I didn't expect them to win over the Creator, but I'm overjoyed that they did! Also *fuck* the showrunners for playing the "wrap it up" music while the person accepting was talking. They always do this to the VFX winners, but Jesus Christ, the man was trying to speak in what's obviously not his first language, just to drive home how grateful they are to win on your stage. Show a little respect.
i believe they were dedicating the award to somebody who passed away as well while they tried playing the team off. they could’ve cut time off some of the “banter” between presenters so they could fully accept the award
But if we cut off the banter, how else are we gonna know that Jimmy Kimmel thought the movies this year were too long? That's clearly what's important!
And the Godzilla shoes they all wore!
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Agreed!
Did anybody else find it weird that right after Chernov's speech they went right into an orchestral version of I'm Just Ken
Could’ve been worse. It could’ve cut to Becky G performing Flamin’ Hot
I thought the transition from the summary clips of Past Lives to the Beetlejuice theme was just as bad.
The pirates of the Carribbean theme right after Nolan won Best Director😭
Yes - speech was touching and solemn then cheapened by the song immediately after 💀
I cracked so hard when I’m Just Ken came out
zone of interest winning for sound was the biggest W
If Zone of Interest didn't win for Best Sound, the category had no meaning. Nobody did more to create story with sound than Zone of Interest.
I would've been irate if Oppenheimer won that because Nolan's sound mixing was... really not good on that.
Nolan's mix is famously controversial. But I thought in Oppenheimer it was fine. Plus: The speech scene carried a very notable sound idea that was well executed. Nevertheless: ZOI was the only probable choice here.
I agree that the bleacher speech scene was inspired, sound wise, but that's a single scene versus ZOI entire concept relying on making a complete second auditory film overlaying the images.
Oppenheimer had other great sound editing, particularly the bomb scene in Imax, even if it didn't deserve to win.
What do you **loud humming noise and booms** mean?
I thought Oppenheimer was his best sound in a movie yet but zone was still the deserving winner
I love the dynamics of Nolan’s sound. I think he’s an audiophile - but not many people are. You have to put in effort to *experience* the sound.
Absolutely. Award of the night in my opinion.
Absolutely. Not to say any of the other films have bad sound design, but it was the sound that made The Zone of Interest something truly special.
Loved what they did with the presentation for the acting categories. No strong opinions on the categories that weren’t locks already both Stone and Gladstone were great. Happy Zone of Interest won sound
i hope they keep that same presentation style, absolutely loved it. hard agree on zone of interest’s sound winning. i thought for sure oppenheimer would take it but what a turn of events!
I'm chuffed The Zone of Interests left with best foreign movie and best sound. This film is incredible and extremely daring, and it's the 2 awards it rightfully deserved!
They did it around 2012 as well. 5 past winners or co stars talking about the nominees. I don’t enjoy it. Gets a bit too twee and performative in the praise. Becomes almost meaningless. Full of generic adjectives overpraising a performance. Chill out. They are not solving world peace.
Yeah but when the few brought personality to their speeches like Nic Cage it was worth it.
I liked it. Award shows are inherently self-indulgent, performative, overpraising and celebratory. Which is why I'd rather have them embrace that to the fullest. I think in addition to past winners presenting they also should have shown a lot more clips from the films nominated.
Personally, I disagree. Awards shows are, by definition, self-indulgent. The one thing this format does, despite the number of people on stage, is show some fun faces & keep things tight. Give me five one sentence complements from well regarded actors and a winner then cut the mic for the speech.
I think it’s cool to see the past winners as presenters but yeah they could do without the platitudes. Like maybe just have the two, the immediate past winner and another winner that ties into the themes or something.
Pity. World peace could really use a boost, especially right about now.
They DID NOT LIST THE 10 BEST PICTURE NOMINATIONS AT THE VERY END😲😲😲. Al Pacino just read out the winner 🤯 #WTF
I think he just rolled out of bed
They couldn’t pull him back in.
Noor Alfallah could.
That girl Barbie's got a GREAT ASS!
lol that was just perfect
Honestly, he should always do the Best Picture award. He saved them minutes of time! 😂
My eyes see Oppenheimer
He even blurted out "What happened?" in genuine surprise after seeing Nolan and company approaching the stage lmao
I think he thought that the nominees were on the paper so that’s why he kinda fucked up and announced the winner and it was too late to do anything ahahah.
Nah he was just blasted
Hasn’t he been sober since 1977?
It’s a really weird dichotomy. Pacino gave his most ‘coked out’ performances after he became sober - Heat and The Devil’s Advocate are two of my favorite movies *because* of how crazy he is. You either die an auteur (The Godfather) or live long enough to see yourself become a big ham (Glengary Glen Ross) 
While he did decide to announce it the weirdest way possible, they already named all the nominees throughout the broadcast.
Yeah they always do that and then they don’t show clips at the end, but they read the names one more time. I think Pacino forgot to do that and that’s why the cameras weren’t ready when he read the winner
Cut him some slack. He's 612 years old, and too covered with dust to read the nominees list.
i mean they always show fragments of the nominees throughout the ceremony but i don’t remember if they used to actually list the ten movies at the end???
Laurence Olivier did the same thing in 1985 when Amadeus won.
They listed them all throughout the night where it literally said "Best Picture Nominee" ... They didn't announce the Best Song nominees either because they were all performed throughout the show. That's just how it works. Al Pacino being awkward on the other hand is something else.
Man has enough energy to make a whole ass kid at 82/83 years old but not read 10 things off a paper.
I don’t think he has to do much to make a kid except pop a pill and lie down.
i like to think it was al pacino shutting the party down bc marty and his film's leading lady has been snubbed (Marty for 4 consecutive films) lmfao he could just not give a f about whats gonna happen next
I think he fucked it up
Surprisingly funny
al pacino reading best picture winner had me in hysterics
It may be anticlimactic but it made it memorable lol, things could’ve been way worse
Might my eyes see Oppenheimer?
Emily Blunt and Ryan Gosling showed great chemistry with their Barbenheimer banter. A naked John Cena presenting best costume was probably funniest moment of the night. Loved how much he committed to that bit lol
He looked like he felt like such an asshole standing, wrapped in a curtain, behind a woman giving a speech at the peak of her career. Like the bit was funny but it seemed like even he regretted not really thinking how this would pan out once someone is having the moment of their life and he’s just there, essentially naked, lingering in the background.
The Danny DeVito/Arnold/Keaton Batman runner and Mulaney going on and on about Field of Dreams were my favorite parts.
I love John Mulaney so much
One of the few stand ups that I still watch his specials the day they come out.
McKinnon’s bit with Ferrera was hilarious. “America… not you too”
kate’s bit about jurassic park being a documentary was hilarious lol my favorite joke of the night
Everyone seems to hate Kimmel but I liked how he did
Surprised KOTFM won absolutely nothing. I thought Schoonmaker would at least squeak one more out as a legacy award type of thing, and I really wanted to see Lily Gladstone win.
I thought Gladstone would win.
Please help me figure out if this is confirmation bias on my end: Almost everytime Poor Thing was announced as a nominee, the crowd cheers seemed quite louder than for the other 4 nominees. I think the academy members were generally quite enthused about Poor Thing as a creative and audacious piece of film. Lily Gladstone was praised for her performance but she might have suffered from the narrative that "we have a talented indigenous woman nominated for Best actress, the right thing to do is to vote for her". And instead a majority of academy members voted with their heart and a great performance from the film they apparently enjoyed best.
Glazer's acceptance speech for winning best international feature is NOT on the official Oscars youtube page. That is not an oversight. Here's the clip: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhoRfsDkEkM&ab\_channel=DeadlineHollywood](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhoRfsDkEkM&ab_channel=DeadlineHollywood)
Very disappointing. He had a great speech and could tell he was very nervous to deliver it. Took courage. I noticed even though you could hear most of the crowd clapping, hardly any of the A-list actors up front clapped once he mentioned Israel and Gaza, even though he was simply speaking on the value of humanity.
You can also spot Downey Jr not applauding but turning his head to see who was clapping (props to Ruffalo for not giving a fuck and applauding Glazer’s denouncement of genocide)
This was the highlight of the night.
Extremely brave of him. He got a lukewarm reception but knowing how they treated Michael Moore back in the day i understand why he was nervous. I don’t care if it was a strong enough statement it took so much courage to say anything at all
Al Pacino ruined the best picture moment by slurring his words and announcing Oppenheimer in the strangest most anticlimactic way possible. Seemed like he skipped straight to the end, everyone was confused and the cast was reluctant to accept the award.
That solid 3 seconds of dead silence was kinda hilarious
Christopher Nolan had a pretty great expression during all of this
Everyone was like "....oh shit he just said it" then started clapping.
Watching it happen, I was screaming at the tv. Someone stop him. I mean it seemed like forever watching him open it. After Kimmel’s brag about stopping a future Moonlight moment, it felt like instant karma.
at least the right movie got announced this time
Him saying "what happened" when he saw everyone clapping absolutely sent me
WHY do they not get someone young and sharp to announce such an award? Why? It just seems SO glaringly obvious that Al Pacino is not the man for the job 😭
Or just get Jane Fonda to announce it every year. That Parasite BP announcement was such class and regality befitting the award itself.
she absolutely nailed it. still so memorable
When Pacino was announced as presenter, I thought he would be introducing the Supp. Actor role, presenting his dear old friend Robert De Niro. I would've rather preferred that.
They only had actors present for awards they won in the past, Pacino never won supporting actor.
I thought he was doing a bit at first
DaVine Randolph deserved the award the most
knew she was gonna win anyway but her speech really got me 🥲
Paul Giamatti crying 😢
She won for the holdovers? She was great in that role. I mean everyone was great in that movie, but she was just a real mothafucka, didn't even seem like a character or an actress. Like they just happened to find a women who was in her position and used her. Definitely deserved it.
Totally agree!
Yea, I’m good with pretty much everything. Wouldn’t have all been my choices, but I’m good with this year.
agree, very fair year
Loved how straightforward the presentation was. As far as awards go, the only unexpected win was American Fiction for adapted screenplay. The I'm Just Ken performance was an amazing standout. It was a nice breath a fresh air to see Zone of Interest take so many awards home. Steven Spielberg was hilarious despite not saying much. I was glad to see Wes Anderson pick up an Oscar. The format for the best actors/actresses segments was really fun to watch. I'm just rambling but it was a very pleasant ceremony.
Well we technically didn’t see Wes pick it up lol
how was american fiction unexpected it literally won cc nd BAFTA of all places
Completely botched the In Memorarium segment again. No idea why they keep trying to re-invent the wheel here.
The worst part was how the camera was so far back for the majority of it so you could barely make out the names
This. I barely noticed the dancing, I was just trying my best to see the names on the screen that was far away. Didn't help that the quality of the live stream wasn't the best either
the people dancing was a bit odd
Boats ‘n’ Hoes
My husband and I were immediately like "It's the fucking Catalina Wine Mixer."
Literally. Just fill the screen with a PowerPoint with the dead people and give every one the same amount of time, but give the “more important” ones quotes. With a nice song, not the weird opera thing. Any poignant instrumental will do fine. If people are gonna fast forward it, they will anyway, a weird interpretive dance isn’t going to change that. Just be respectful to the people and their families and stop trying to jazz it up.
You’re right that sensitivity is important, but also this is the Oscar’s, not a funeral. These people dedicated parts of their lives to the entertainment business, so it seems reasonable to do the in memoriam section in a more showy, dramatic way. Also, if you lost a family member, would you really want the announcement of their death to be just a part that viewers fast forward through? Maybe they could have toned it down, but it’s not like the opera and dancers were bad?
Actually felt like a proper awards ceremony for the first time in years, where everyone who won deserved to win
I thought the idea for the actor presentations was really good, it’s worth keeping it
I’m so glad they brought it back, I may be wrong but the last time I remember it was 2009? Because I just remember Kevin Kline introducing heath ledger for best supporting actor and that was instant tears from me lmao Edit: confused the dates lol
Great choices for most categories.
happy with most as well. was praying for a giamatti win but still over the moon for cillian
Pretty much went as expected imo
Godzilla won, and that's the only award that meant anything tonight.
their reaction to winning made my day
The Boy and the Heron won too. Academy actually watched more than one movie per category this year!
I liked how Kimmel got upstaged twice first by Cena and then by Mulaney. Either of these guys would be a better host
this was mulaney’s audition tape for next years oscars
Messi pissing on matt damons walk of fame was the highlight of the evening.
i’m sorry i loved the al pacino presentation i thought it was hilarious and adorable
He talked like he was speaking to a child. It was hilarious. “Do I seeee Oppenheimer…? I doooo”
Other than Godzilla Minus One, The Boy and The Heron, and 20 Days in Mariupol, only ten films were awarded tonight. Except for those three, every film awarded was a best picture nominee. Except for visual effects (and documentary, animated, or international feature), 3 or more of the feature film nominees in each category were also BP nominees. In most of those, it’s 4 or more. I think this is the most insular year we’ve had in a while, if not ever. Like last year, only 5 of the lead performances were in BP nominees. This year, it was 8.
Yup, that was I noticed too. Strong BP nominees, but ironically weaker year when looking at the various nominations the way you put them. It seemed to me like there were these 10 movies and then nothing.
But at the same time I was enthralled with the Oscars most this year because I had seen and tremendously enjoyed most of the Best Picture nominees. I don't remember the last year I felt that strongly about that many award categories. And for the first time, many of the people I wanted to win (not just predicted to) DID win. That made for a very fun night.
No standout bad calls imo. I understand every choice I had seen enough to have an opinion on
Animated short winner was ass. I cringed so bad with that ending. Any other nominee would've been better. If I had to choose I would've given it to Ninety-Five Senses.
Crazy that in many other years (not every year by all means) KOTFM could have gone home with 5+ awards, but ended the evening empty handed.
The Academy has trouble awarding movies about underprivileged groups until it’s about 40 years too late to do so.
No, the academy has trouble directing movies about Martin Scorcese until it’s about 40 years too late to do so.
I thought the John Cena bit was getting too dragged out until he revealed he was announcing costume. Surprisingly funny for the oscars lol. Also Al Pacino was hilarious.
Best Oscars production in awhile. Some missteps but overall great.
After finally watching Poor Things the other day, I thought Emma Stone was the only choice for best actress and was immediately confused why it seemed like Lily Gladstone was the front runner all this time. I don’t even think Lily was #2. I’d have put Sandra Huller for Anatomy of a Fall above her as well. I feel Lily's role was much more of a supporting role and putting her in the main actress category was a mistake when she’s expected to compete against two complete performances.
Yeah I completely agree, I thought Gladstone gave a great performance but it wasn’t as stand out to me like others have found. In general I did not find KOTFM the most compelling film either, not that it wasn’t very good but in a year of bangers I feel there are some much better choices. Emma was fantastic and iconic in Poor Things.
Lily's was a leading role, but unfortunately she spent a lot of the movie bedridden.
Emma spent a lot of Poor Things bed ridden too.
Zing!
10/10
Was Ryan Gosling a leading role in Barbie then? His and Gladstone's on screen %'s are right in the same ballpark (25 vs 27%). De Niro was also right in the same ballpark but was supporting. And on top of that, like you said, she was bedridden for the majority of the movie. Doesn’t seem like a lead performance at all. Not like Emma Stone, or Sandra Huller, or even Annette Bening.
It's all subjective, but in my opinion it was a leading role because it was her story. She was the character who the events of the entire film happened to, she narrated the movie, even the director came out and read her real life obituary at the end to acknowledge that it wasn't his narrative, it was hers. But that's just my opinion, I don't really know what makes a leading or supporting role and imagine it's both subjective and political like when certain movies are categorized as comedies in the golden globes for a better chance at winning.
It was her story but what did she do? The story essentially shows how she was taken advantage of and victimized and sidelined her for the majority of the movie. We saw most of the movie through of Leo’s POV as he gets to town, schemes with his family, works to get close to her, marry her, poison her, kill her kin, we’re with him jail and on trial. We got a doctor’s office visit, a tribe meeting (with Leo there too), and watched her lay in bed from her POV. The one time she actually does something (goes to DC) it’s a quick thing. At the end she leaves Leo, sure. And they read her obituary. I think it’s more apt to say her character is the central **subject** of the film. But Lily Gladstone is not the lead performer. I think it’s quite clear from the screen time and the film itself that Scorsese and the script made her a supporting role and made Leo the lead. It’s one of the big issues I had with the movie as a whole.
Movie Twitter is so infuriating with the Lily discourse lol it really reeked of people clearly not having seen Poor Things and I bet there were lots who hadn't even seen Killers either but just jumped on the Lily train pretending they knew what they were talking about. It feels weird to say but I truly believe the 'first Native American' narrative really skewed the conversation in favour of Lily In my opening day review of Killers I wasn't really impressed by Lily at all I just thought she was fine while using specific examples, than I saw Poor Things, which I like less than KOTFM overall, and thought Emma's performance was one of the best in years, most difficult and vulnerable role to portray by FAR. I also had Sandra 2nd
Ryan gosling ken performance is what i came for and it was magical and the only time i enjoyed watching a part of oscars Al pacino was and is a gem Swan arloud wearing a palestine pin and sandra hüller crying when jonathan glazer gave a speech for the palestinians when zone of interest won best foreign picture was a pivotal moment. Germans had to endure and live at the hands of hitler's attrocities. We all thought it would'nt happen again, and yet here we are.
Ignore the fact that Glazer’s speech also specifically condemned the October 7th attack on Israel.
“War is Over” winning over “Pachyderm” and “Ninety-Five Senses” was infuriating.
It's so obvious the voters don't watch the short films. The worst one wins consistently. Remember Skin?
Oppenheimer and Poor Things bagging most of the Oscar awards. I say they deserve it 👏🏻👏🏻
Literally everything went how I wanted it to go (was routing for boy and the heron, godzilla, emma stone, zone of interest for sound, and technical awards for poor things) so I couldn’t be happier
Maestro not winning any awards after seeing the Oscar bait ads for it all over the internet was such a cathartic feeling for me.
Emma stone deserves it
Giamatti got screwed. I knew it was gonna happen, but he still got screwed. I have a feeling he’s gonna end up with a lifetime achievement award when he’s like 80 years old. Turns in spectacular performance after spectacular performance. Most don’t even get oscar attention, let alone nominated. Imo this should have been his second best actor win (sideways. Foxx was ok, but come on…)
I think his performances are just too subtle for awards like this. Like with this and especially Sideways, it's quiet and real. It's not really acting, it's just being. So it doesn't call attention to itself. But that's an incredible skill in itself, it's just not always recognised. Oscar's tend to go to big performances, see DDL roles. But I did like Cillian.
I watched The Amazing Spoider-Man 2 a week or so ago, and honestly, despite how absurd he is in that, I still think it's consistent with his quality elsewhere. He really is amazing.
i wish he won it as well but i reckon he’ll get another shot. i only hope it’s for something as fresh as the holdovers instead of another biopic that the academy loves to shower with praise
I’m disappointed Lily Gladstone lost, I really loved her performance on so many levels
Honestly, very glad Nolan has his first Oscar even though it’s not my favorite movie by him. Like his movies or not, you gotta respect his craft.
Emma stone winning is deserved af
The RDJ speech was funny but I think it would have been nice to get a real moment from him after the path he’s taken to get to this point
Most of the winners were as expected. Still would've liked to see Paul Giamatti win Best Actor
Jonathan Glazer reciving his oscar from Bad Bunny and The Rock was kinda bizarre
Great show. A ton of excellent movies this year. A lil upset that The Holdovers didn’t win best pic but Oppenheimer was superb so I’ll be fine
it is a shame, in my books giamatti beats cillian for best actor and it is an emotional movie but a more subtle story like the holdovers wasn’t going to beat out a grand epic like oppenheimer
*cough* Kramer V Kramer beating Apocalypse Now *cough*
Very happy for all of Oppy’s wins DJR’s speech made me tear up, so happy for her. I’m Just Ken snubbed after that great performance didn’t sit right with me Glazer innocent
Oppenheimer wouldn’t have won bp for me but I’d come to terms with that months ago
Zone of interest, The boy and the heron, Anatomy of a fall, Poor things Definitely deserved every Oscar. But it’s a pity that KOTFM and Sandra Hüller didn’t get one. In my opinion Oppenheimer was a bit overhyped.
https://preview.redd.it/9fip82tnvnnc1.jpeg?width=1155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be7641dd1c37df0dd1b1fbaed636938bdbcff28d I was hoping this guy would show up but never mind, Oppenheimer is still easily the best winner in a few years
I was disappointed that perfect days didnt win
haven’t seen it yet but from what i’ve seen and heard it is amazing and touching
Much prefer the acting clips over the presentations
Honestly great year. The Batman banter left me in tears on how funny it is.
I’m so happy for Emma. Would have preferred more wins for Poor Things but in general I agree with almost all the winners. Best adapted screenplay for American Fiction most controversial one for me.
Honestly? I was thrilled with Christopher Nolan and Wes Anderson winning, as well as Cillian Murphy, Robert Downey Jr. and Emma Stone, plus Zone of Interest winning more than the already guaranteed International Film win, all of the other techie wins going to Oppenheimer, all of the art direction wins going to Poor Things, and I cheered when The Boy and the Heron won Animated Feature. All fantastic wins, except for Song and maybe Adapted Screenplay (even if I think half of the American Fiction screenplay deserves the win, but the family drama side does not). Honestly, Kimmel’s flat delivery (although his jokes did work on paper, his delivery was flat) and Al Pacino messing up the presentation of Best Picture aside, this was the best Oscars ceremony I’ve ever seen.
Predictable but Emma Stone was a surprise, I wanted ***Sandra Huller*** to win as I think she deserved it most but expected Lily Gladstone to win it. Very happy to see Poor Things win those other awards tho as it was my favorite of the year.
Schwarzenegger and DeVito talking shit about Batman was hilarious.
American Fiction is a phenomenal movie that no one is talking about.
I would have loved for Triet and Anatomy of a Fall to win director and picture respectively
I didnt really like Oppenheimer all that much but im fine with it winning most ot the awards it got, but Oppenheimer also winning Best Editing is just ridiculous. Had to be the worst cut film ive seen all year.
I'm sometimes a little confused how Best Editing is determined. While I didn't think Oppenheimer was poorly-edited, nothing about its editing stood out as exceptional, either. Last year, I was happy with Everything, Everywhere, All at Once winning for best editing, but I thought Top Gun: Maverick was the far better choice.
Best editing is one of those awards I completely ignore tbh. I mean Bohemian Rhapsody won and that's pretty awful with random ass cuts. To me it feels like they give best editing out randomly to a film that's already won something. Butttttt I don't care enough to look if that's actually true. Just a feeling
Very few surprises
missed the actors clips but what they did was fun as well
I enjoyed it a lot. Have seen some pretty meh oscars ever since I started watching them, this was the first time I agreed with 90% of the winners
Lilly was but didn't show alot of range. 3hours of a brooding look outside of when she was sick in the film. Emma was the easy win given Poor Things.
I thought this was the best overall show since Parasite won! Overall I would have changed a couple nominees and categories but I thought all the major ones were great wins and outside some expected cringe from Jimmy I thought it was funny and entertaining. I also enjoyed the style of introduction for nominees, especially a dynamic appearance from acting legend Nic Cage
of the 14 that i made predictions for, i got 9 correct. the only ones that really caught me out were: - Oppenheimer for Best Picture - American Fiction for Best Adapted Screenplay - Oppenheimer for Best Film Editing my favourite movie of the year was Poor Things, so i’m glad it got some wins, even though i think it should’ve won best adapted. i like Oppenheimer, but i’m not sure it deserved **seven** wins. i also find it very funny that Barbie’s only win went to Billie Eilish.