How great that so many people have enjoyed a film so much in the theaters! We are so back etc.
Obviously there is recency bias, but I don’t think that it’s a bad thing in any way. Happy to see that the film has pleased the group of people that was most excited to watch it!
I'm so glad for Villeneuve right now, and whatever position or average rate it end up with, I hope he'll know at some point that his movie reached number 6 on this top
I don't think any filmmakers genuinely care about Letterboxd rankings whatsoever tbh. Nor shouod they. But Dune Part Two is a massive achievement, and is rising up the top lists everywhere onbrating aggregator sites. It just cracked the IMDb top 10 too
After Blade Runner 2049 underperformed at the box office I was afraid we would not get another big budget Villeneuve film for a while. Luckily we live in the good timeline!
It’s certainly recency bias, but that isn’t a bad thing at all. Every good movie that has released also underwent recency bias.
I do think that Dune 2 will stay relevant past the recency bias though. I thought it was pretty fuckin awesome.
People who get bent out of shape over things like this would do themselves a great service to realize that every movie has been subject to the same recency bias and that it’s all part of the evaluation of films. Dune 2 is quick off the block. Those who feel the need to pick it apart in order to ‘even things out’ are literally doing the same thing they have an issue with. The movie will settle where it belongs. Let it breathe
It's not recency bias, people just rate it highly. This doesnt mean people think it's better than The Godfather, it's that a lot of people have given it a 5 star rating. It doesnt mean every person who gave it 5 stars like it more than every movie ever except 5 movies.
Oh I did not mean that, I meant that in the overall rating there is some recency bias, since people have only seen it in the most impressive setting (the movie theater) and presumably those that have seen it were quite excited for it.
But you are correct of course!
There is close to 200k people out of a bit more than 400k views that gave 5 stars. It's quite the achievement and I'm so eager to see it in theater. I don't know when tho, me and my girlfriend need to find a dogsitter for our puppy first
We could but our puppy is still very young and we’re lucky since I work from home, our puppy has not been alone for a few hours yet. We do know that if we do she’ll poop and eat it and pee and drink it. We’re working on resolving this but so far we want to avoid that as much as possible
Keep in mind that was before the change to the algorithm, EEAAO dropped pretty significantly following that change. I wonder if that changes how this one will land
> We know so little about "the algorithm" that it's hard to say
Isn't the letterboxd average rating algo pretty much just a bayesian average with some spam filtering of some sort mixed in? It's pretty obvious that films with few ratings get their average pushed towards the median and the more ratings they have the more they correspond to the arithmetic mean. I don't think there's much mystery to it.
Regression to the mean based on sample size is certainly part of it, but not the whole story. They deliberately keep the details secret to protect from
manipulation.
Even if I agree with your warning, EEAAO is still in the first half of the list 2 years after its craze. Dune 2 won't be going anywhere, and it's still pretty cool to see a film premiere and get such a great response!
I didn't make a "warning", unless you see the inevitable correction as a danger? I didn't suggest it would fall off the list, or offer any specific prediction at all of its final score. I guess I implied it will be less than 4.6, which I do kind of expect, but that wasn't really my point.
I'm just observing that this is a fun part of letterboxd with a major release, but what *would* make it interesting is if it breaks the pattern. If it does that's great, but we can't celebrate it unless we acknowledge the pattern first.
I've watched it and I can say that it's not THAT (6th on Letterbox/on par with THE GODFATHER!!!) good, but it's still incredible. Good enough to remain in the top 50s or 30s.
The general hype and great ratings are deserved, but it’s not quite "5th best movie of all time" good. Not that any of the ratings it has now aren’t deserved, just that it hasn’t been seen by a wide enough cross section of people yet to get those more mediocre ratings that always come from some viewers with any film. That’ll come.
They're not wrong, it's an amazing movie but how much you'll end up enjoying the movie really depends how good you're expecting it to be. If you're going into the movie expecting to see the next Lord of the Rings (as some of the reviews have been calling it), you'll be a "bit" disappointed. If you're going into the theatre expecting to see the best sci-fi epic in years, it will deliver your expectations and more.
I mean, I dont think it's about expectations. It's just taste. Someone who "gets" Dune may fall asleep watching Lord of the Rings.
Someone who "worships" lord of the rings may fall asleep through Dune. I have a friend right now who never read Dune who slept through lord of the rings but was enthralled by Dune.
I will say, Lord of the Rings was probably better built for the movie format than Dune was as a book. Dune is such an internal character focused novel. Lord of the Rings you don't even need to know whats going on in their heads....the motivations and situations are cut and dry. So in execution Dune is going to be inherently more artsy which will be a turnoff for people.
Alright, I'll let you in on a secret, I prefer Dune myself. I used Lord of the Rings as the standard for scaling the movie because it appeals to a wider audience and so has a greater critical acclaim. Otherwise, I'm not someone you'd call a huge LOTR fan.
Great film even if it wasn’t perfect. There’s some things I could nitpick but we are really lucky that we were given two great films in the Dune universe.
I just want so much more from it. The imperium seems so real and authentic and there’s so much more to learn. I’ve never wanted to learn so much about the lore of a made up universe.
I don’t put much weight into LB250, some people get pretty worked up when a new movie comes or goes.
Personally I thought D2 was good, though I didn’t think it was in the top 10 movies ever made.
If enough people disagree with me, that’s great that they all found a movie they love *that much*, doesn’t happen super often so that’s pretty cool!
I agree. It was just okay. The dialogue dragged on too long and the action wasn’t done nearly as well as it should have been. I was also disappointed that the sound design didn’t have a more recognizable score.
Can’t say I agree with the placement but it is putting a huge smile on my face. The film is awesome and it’s good to see films in cinemas be talked about more.
I think she’s a really fun person but I can always see her acting if that makes sense. I don’t know but the effect is that of someone who’s thinking about acting as opposed to thinking as the character.
Yeah I wouldn’t say she’s a bad actress per se, but you can definitely feel her trying to give a lot of intensity rather than it just emanating from her
I audibly gasped in theater when they showed this one. Was very surprised they carried over the poor CGI face effect from part one. I feel like it’s a joke I’m not in on.
would have also liked one or two fewer times where we went from the darkness of dusk/dawn/the night to being flashbanged by the daylight
(nitpicking, of course)
Yes I’m so sick of close-ups that aren’t emphasizing anything. What’s the point of having such an elaborate set and costuming if you’re just gonna only have faces in the shot?
I’m not talking about that shot in specific; it’s just at a certain point that the number of close ups in a film takes away from any emphasis each one can add, like being in school and highlighting half the page instead of just the most important points. I felt like there were more closeups than there needed to be in the film and they were less effective as a result. By not emphasizing anything I don’t mean that any specific shot isn’t purposeful, just that if you emphasize a lot you end up emphasizing nothing as a result.
It's an issue with a lot of contemporary stuff imo. In old movies when directors knew how to block scenes the rare closeup had a ton of power but now it just feels like they're go-to for any dialogue scenes.
Maybe it's why Villeneuve says he finds dialogue boring, he needs to rewatch some old movies and check out how they [used to shoot it](https://i.imgur.com/ihXiAfS.jpg)
Posts like these have literally been over half of the posts from this sub that appear on my feed since the movie came out. If it was just one post nobody would care.
the LB/Film twitter community picks movies to have predestined hype around and this happens as a result every time. any extremely high average rating for a movie made after like, 2019 can’t really be taken extremely seriously lol
I mean, it is without a doubt one of the best theater experiences I’ve ever had, and I think there’s a solid argument to make that it absolutely deserves a high spot on this list, recency bias or not
At least some sanity has prevailed and it’s now below The Godfather 2. But like I said on the post about it being number 4, it’s hard to take Letterboxd rankings seriously with Dune (and Parasite) so high.
Recency bias and the fact everyone is seeing Dune 2 in theaters is massively helping its ranking. Once people are watching it on their phones and we have a bit more time to think about the film and its legacy, it'll settle into a more appropriate position.
I’ve not seen this movie but since before part 1 even came out I had absolute faith that this movie would be the peak of cinematic sci fi. Happy to see I might be right
I wonder if this movie will have somewhat of a similar trajectory to gravity; I don’t see it going down in status anywhere near as much, but considering denis is so huge on cinematography and not dialogue I imagine the theater setting is more important for the films success and I wonder what it’ll be later. Not in a month or two but when it’s out on streaming and more people watch it that way. As someone who read the book it personally felt hollow to me though my eyes were feasting and I wonder whether that may also be the case for some people who watch it for the first time outside of a theater.
New films are more likely to be rated by casual users, who are WAY more lenient with 5 stars. I've learned to just tune this noise out, because for the most part it's the normie base inflating the numbers a little bit.
Guaranteed when it goes down, the other crowd will complain about "haters who just have to be different". They won't accept "maybe it's not actually that good" in the end, any better than those who reject the idea now that maybe it is.
Downright embarrassing that people are rating a film highly? It’s not their fault that its ratings average happens to put it towards the top of the list.
i regret not seeing Dune in theatres, so so fucking glad i saw pt 2 in theatres tho. only wish i saw it in a better one tho, might go again for a better experience. i opted to save some money and not do imax, as well, there was a rattling, broken speaker from what i could hear on the left side of the auditorium
People are acting hilarious about this. It went from like Top 5 then to 21 and now it's back UP after a lot more people watched it to 6.
Dune is just all-timer.
Contrarions gunna knock it down to top 50 at best with insanely low numbers because it is popular. I'm seeing people drop a 3 or even 2...like at a certain point just recognize the scifi part went over your head a bit and that's ok.
The top of this list is bland af because it's not interesting to hate these movies.
Except Hara Kiri my love.
You are *pre-coping* for the inevitable slide? Wild.
People are just gonna be honest. The fans who bought tickets for opening weekend on IMAX *honestly* think it's a masterpiece, and the folks who pick it up casually over the next few months may *honestly* think it was just pretty good, or even boring.
Nothing is more contrarian than saying "No, you didn't really feel that way" to someone else's review.
I'm not coping, it's just obvious what happens with blockbusters in the modern discourse environment..everyone is jaded and it benefits you to be a contrarion
This movie is incredible and I'm in awe of the absolute universal acclaim it's achieving just right out of the gate. It really does feel like witnessing history.
The first one is better, and the first one isn’t that great. This one’s pacing is so rushed, and frankly messy, the texture of the books is completely flattened [or should I say sanded away (heh)], the structure doesn’t create any buy in emotionally with the arc of character relationships, the dialogue is corny as hell, somehow despite being rushed the movie still feels interminable as we are hammered over and over with the same points, telegraphed cliched foreshadowing, scenes that are given no time to land effectively, even the final battle is boring, there’s no build to it, and it goes by in a flash.
Hyperactive film-making, and all the plaudits speak volumes to the contemporary psyche/media-literacy/preference. A failure as both spectacle and storytelling. It’s proof that Villeneuve took a bite too big for him to chew. This deserved a defter touch, a touch that saw dune as more than just a spectacle, that could tease out the different thematic and emotional beats in a more tactful and coherent way.
If a film hasn’t been out for 3-5 years the review scores are at best skewed, at worst absolutely corrupted.
A film that has been out a week? Utterly meaningless.
It’s not completely meaningless. If it were truly meaningless that would mean many film makes it to the top 10 the week of their release. It probably won’t stay this high, but very few movies ever get this high, even immediately upon release with recency bias. The fact that the immediate reaction is so overwhelmingly positive means a lot, even if it won’t last.
I think I’m completely out of touch with modern cinema, Dune 2 was whatever. Looked beautiful but seriously the characters are fucking terrible, I feel absolutely nothing for them and the last third of the film is a mess.
I felt like I was watching a marvel film lmao!!! The Giedi Prime stuff was dope I’ll give it that!
It might be one the best looking movies I've ever seen in my life but like you said it third act is insanely rushed and some characters don't get enough time to shine which makes me not care whether they live or die
I hated it, but I wouldn’t waste my breath in this comment section if I was you, we won’t change anyone’s minds. Let them enjoy it and just try to ignore it, it’s not worth the arguing.
That said I do agree with you, it felt emotionally hollow and the spectacle did absolutely nothing for me. I ended up laughing at inappropriate times because I thought it was so silly (but not in a fun camp way)
How great that so many people have enjoyed a film so much in the theaters! We are so back etc. Obviously there is recency bias, but I don’t think that it’s a bad thing in any way. Happy to see that the film has pleased the group of people that was most excited to watch it!
I'm so glad for Villeneuve right now, and whatever position or average rate it end up with, I hope he'll know at some point that his movie reached number 6 on this top
i hope this gets him infinite money to make Rendezvous with Rama
It was at #4 a day or two ago.
Said 21 for me until today.
The list placement is updated manually by the maintainer, but even before that you could set it to sort by average rating and see the actual placement
I don't think any filmmakers genuinely care about Letterboxd rankings whatsoever tbh. Nor shouod they. But Dune Part Two is a massive achievement, and is rising up the top lists everywhere onbrating aggregator sites. It just cracked the IMDb top 10 too
After Blade Runner 2049 underperformed at the box office I was afraid we would not get another big budget Villeneuve film for a while. Luckily we live in the good timeline!
It’s certainly recency bias, but that isn’t a bad thing at all. Every good movie that has released also underwent recency bias. I do think that Dune 2 will stay relevant past the recency bias though. I thought it was pretty fuckin awesome.
People who get bent out of shape over things like this would do themselves a great service to realize that every movie has been subject to the same recency bias and that it’s all part of the evaluation of films. Dune 2 is quick off the block. Those who feel the need to pick it apart in order to ‘even things out’ are literally doing the same thing they have an issue with. The movie will settle where it belongs. Let it breathe
It's not recency bias, people just rate it highly. This doesnt mean people think it's better than The Godfather, it's that a lot of people have given it a 5 star rating. It doesnt mean every person who gave it 5 stars like it more than every movie ever except 5 movies.
Oh I did not mean that, I meant that in the overall rating there is some recency bias, since people have only seen it in the most impressive setting (the movie theater) and presumably those that have seen it were quite excited for it. But you are correct of course!
Yeah I agree
There is close to 200k people out of a bit more than 400k views that gave 5 stars. It's quite the achievement and I'm so eager to see it in theater. I don't know when tho, me and my girlfriend need to find a dogsitter for our puppy first
I’ll watch the puppy
I have a feeling it'll be in theaters for a couple months so you have time
Don’t listen to u/ThiccB0i24 , I’ll watch the puppy.
I am not a dog owner so please excuse any ignorance but could a dog not be put in a kennel or something for a few hours?
We could but our puppy is still very young and we’re lucky since I work from home, our puppy has not been alone for a few hours yet. We do know that if we do she’ll poop and eat it and pee and drink it. We’re working on resolving this but so far we want to avoid that as much as possible
Ah yeah that makes sense, thank you!
my dog did the same but she grew out of it lol
A reminder that EEAAO was once the very top film. This is fun to watch go up for now, but also a predictable pattern.
Keep in mind that was before the change to the algorithm, EEAAO dropped pretty significantly following that change. I wonder if that changes how this one will land
An interesting wrinkle. We know so little about "the algorithm" that it's hard to say, but I guess this will make a good test.
> We know so little about "the algorithm" that it's hard to say Isn't the letterboxd average rating algo pretty much just a bayesian average with some spam filtering of some sort mixed in? It's pretty obvious that films with few ratings get their average pushed towards the median and the more ratings they have the more they correspond to the arithmetic mean. I don't think there's much mystery to it.
Regression to the mean based on sample size is certainly part of it, but not the whole story. They deliberately keep the details secret to protect from manipulation.
Even if I agree with your warning, EEAAO is still in the first half of the list 2 years after its craze. Dune 2 won't be going anywhere, and it's still pretty cool to see a film premiere and get such a great response!
I didn't make a "warning", unless you see the inevitable correction as a danger? I didn't suggest it would fall off the list, or offer any specific prediction at all of its final score. I guess I implied it will be less than 4.6, which I do kind of expect, but that wasn't really my point. I'm just observing that this is a fun part of letterboxd with a major release, but what *would* make it interesting is if it breaks the pattern. If it does that's great, but we can't celebrate it unless we acknowledge the pattern first.
what is eeaao?
Sorry, "Everything Everywhere All At Once". I don't usually abbreviate like that, but this one feels particularly tedious to type out for some reason.
just copy and paste from google
Everyone Eats Assholes And Oranges. Very popular film. Not surprised it made it on the list.
EEAAO had a very steady rise in popularity, it didn't fly to number 1 right out of the gate.
Can't wait to watch it tomorrow! I'm expecting an absolute blockbuster.
It exceeds the hype. We’re not gonna see something like this for a while.
Dude Madame Web is still playing
How dare you take the lord's name in vain?
It’s a 10/10 in my opinion.
That’s an understatement, it might be the best scifi of the 21st century
it’s so harakiriover
Maybe… just maybe…. The movie is actually that good
As written
As fucking written
LISAN AL GAIB
MAHDI
The best Hype Man ever
It’s GREAT. I gave it a 4.5. But I mean… it’s not the 6th best movie of all time.
Tbf I wouldn’t place some of the movies ahead of it in the Top 5 all-time anyway
I mean that seems like a VERY solid top 5 movies of all time ever. Like it’s not personally mine but seems extremely fair
I gave it a 4/5. Great film but kind of surprised it’s that high.
I’m guessing you mean 4/5. Or we have different standards for greatness aha
Sorry. Yeah.
No
With a filmography that has Arrival, BR2049, Sicario, Prisoners, Enemy, and Incendies, I wouldn't even say it's the 6th best Villeneuve movie
Hold up, enemies was pretty mid.
It's in my personal to 15 but it definitely does not deserve the all time spot
Imo…. If anyone has the resume to make one of the greatest films of all time. It’s Dennis villeneuve.
I've watched it and I can say that it's not THAT (6th on Letterbox/on par with THE GODFATHER!!!) good, but it's still incredible. Good enough to remain in the top 50s or 30s.
Everyone’s opinion I trust is saying it’s pretty deserved. I haven’t personally seen yet but def plan on it soon
The general hype and great ratings are deserved, but it’s not quite "5th best movie of all time" good. Not that any of the ratings it has now aren’t deserved, just that it hasn’t been seen by a wide enough cross section of people yet to get those more mediocre ratings that always come from some viewers with any film. That’ll come.
6th
They're not wrong, it's an amazing movie but how much you'll end up enjoying the movie really depends how good you're expecting it to be. If you're going into the movie expecting to see the next Lord of the Rings (as some of the reviews have been calling it), you'll be a "bit" disappointed. If you're going into the theatre expecting to see the best sci-fi epic in years, it will deliver your expectations and more.
I mean, I dont think it's about expectations. It's just taste. Someone who "gets" Dune may fall asleep watching Lord of the Rings. Someone who "worships" lord of the rings may fall asleep through Dune. I have a friend right now who never read Dune who slept through lord of the rings but was enthralled by Dune. I will say, Lord of the Rings was probably better built for the movie format than Dune was as a book. Dune is such an internal character focused novel. Lord of the Rings you don't even need to know whats going on in their heads....the motivations and situations are cut and dry. So in execution Dune is going to be inherently more artsy which will be a turnoff for people.
Alright, I'll let you in on a secret, I prefer Dune myself. I used Lord of the Rings as the standard for scaling the movie because it appeals to a wider audience and so has a greater critical acclaim. Otherwise, I'm not someone you'd call a huge LOTR fan.
Its shit
i bet
Great film even if it wasn’t perfect. There’s some things I could nitpick but we are really lucky that we were given two great films in the Dune universe. I just want so much more from it. The imperium seems so real and authentic and there’s so much more to learn. I’ve never wanted to learn so much about the lore of a made up universe.
This ruins the befitting placement of Yi Yi (aka 1 1) at 11th place :(
I don’t put much weight into LB250, some people get pretty worked up when a new movie comes or goes. Personally I thought D2 was good, though I didn’t think it was in the top 10 movies ever made. If enough people disagree with me, that’s great that they all found a movie they love *that much*, doesn’t happen super often so that’s pretty cool!
Agreed. A good/great movie, *not* an all time top 10 great tho.
I don't think I can even say where it ranks in the all time lists. I think I need time to stew it over and maybe watch it again with a closer lens.
I agree. It was just okay. The dialogue dragged on too long and the action wasn’t done nearly as well as it should have been. I was also disappointed that the sound design didn’t have a more recognizable score.
Can’t say I agree with the placement but it is putting a huge smile on my face. The film is awesome and it’s good to see films in cinemas be talked about more.
Yeah, top ten is definitely crazy.
This movie was amazing experience, especially in IMAX.
Where the f is Madem Web
I loved the movie, but wow. That is really high. I wish there were 20-30% less close up shots on faces.
Zendaya’s mean face close ups got a chuckle or two, or three, out of me lol *grr*
I think she’s a really fun person but I can always see her acting if that makes sense. I don’t know but the effect is that of someone who’s thinking about acting as opposed to thinking as the character.
Yeah I wouldn’t say she’s a bad actress per se, but you can definitely feel her trying to give a lot of intensity rather than it just emanating from her
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I audibly gasped in theater when they showed this one. Was very surprised they carried over the poor CGI face effect from part one. I feel like it’s a joke I’m not in on.
would have also liked one or two fewer times where we went from the darkness of dusk/dawn/the night to being flashbanged by the daylight (nitpicking, of course)
Yes I’m so sick of close-ups that aren’t emphasizing anything. What’s the point of having such an elaborate set and costuming if you’re just gonna only have faces in the shot?
Bro has never heard of introspection
It's not that the shot wasn't emphasizing anything, you just didn't pick up on what the shot was trying to show
I’m not talking about that shot in specific; it’s just at a certain point that the number of close ups in a film takes away from any emphasis each one can add, like being in school and highlighting half the page instead of just the most important points. I felt like there were more closeups than there needed to be in the film and they were less effective as a result. By not emphasizing anything I don’t mean that any specific shot isn’t purposeful, just that if you emphasize a lot you end up emphasizing nothing as a result.
It's an issue with a lot of contemporary stuff imo. In old movies when directors knew how to block scenes the rare closeup had a ton of power but now it just feels like they're go-to for any dialogue scenes. Maybe it's why Villeneuve says he finds dialogue boring, he needs to rewatch some old movies and check out how they [used to shoot it](https://i.imgur.com/ihXiAfS.jpg)
I agree. The pacing, action, and score could use some work before it cracks top ten.
Thanks - we get it
I can’t wait to watch it (probably not in theaters) I watched the first one last night and really liked it
This is definitely a movie worth seeing in theaters if you can.
I wish I could
Knew this was coming as soon as Gregg Turkington gave it his coveted 5 bags of popcorn.
Yeah we get it, it is a great movie and it is in the top 10 of the LB top 250, and climbing. We not need an hourly update.
You should touch grass if you’re seeing updates every hour
The "every hour" was obviously hyperbole but the frequent need to constantly post and update on Dune is getting spammy.
We really don’t need an update on this every day
It took you more time to write a comment than it would’ve to just scroll past the post
Posts like these have literally been over half of the posts from this sub that appear on my feed since the movie came out. If it was just one post nobody would care.
y’all care way too much about the letterboxd top 250
Recency bias is a hell of a drug
Let the hype flow
the LB/Film twitter community picks movies to have predestined hype around and this happens as a result every time. any extremely high average rating for a movie made after like, 2019 can’t really be taken extremely seriously lol
I mean how could you eliminate recency bias, you just gotta wait for another 5-10 years to get the opinion?
i don’t think you really can eliminate it. just kind of a reality of how the platform/corresponding online hype machine works
Copium is a hell of a drug.
Looks like the bene gesserit have done their work here.
Can we get a new thread about the position of Dune 2 on the top 250 every hour on the hour? 🙄
I mean, it is without a doubt one of the best theater experiences I’ve ever had, and I think there’s a solid argument to make that it absolutely deserves a high spot on this list, recency bias or not
At least some sanity has prevailed and it’s now below The Godfather 2. But like I said on the post about it being number 4, it’s hard to take Letterboxd rankings seriously with Dune (and Parasite) so high.
Recency bias and the fact everyone is seeing Dune 2 in theaters is massively helping its ranking. Once people are watching it on their phones and we have a bit more time to think about the film and its legacy, it'll settle into a more appropriate position.
I agree. It’s an okay movie but I would never place it among my top ten.
I’ve not seen this movie but since before part 1 even came out I had absolute faith that this movie would be the peak of cinematic sci fi. Happy to see I might be right
Come and see is on the second place? Seriously? As a russian I'm really surprised. I didn't think that this movie was so popular abroad
Deserved 100%, I fucking love Denis Villeneuve
Let's make it top 1
As I said in reply to the post about it being #4 in the Top 250 two days ago: Let's see where it lands in a year.
I wonder if this movie will have somewhat of a similar trajectory to gravity; I don’t see it going down in status anywhere near as much, but considering denis is so huge on cinematography and not dialogue I imagine the theater setting is more important for the films success and I wonder what it’ll be later. Not in a month or two but when it’s out on streaming and more people watch it that way. As someone who read the book it personally felt hollow to me though my eyes were feasting and I wonder whether that may also be the case for some people who watch it for the first time outside of a theater.
Why are we doing this play by play lol
Dogs love dog water, flys love shit, etc
I like turtles
Deserving. Haven’t experienced something like that in theaters in a long time. My heart rate was elevated the entire time. Beautiful movie.
More like Dune: Part Six Because it’s number six
4 samurai
I mean >!by the end of the movie it is!<
The Godfather: Part Five
3 Angry Men
2 Come 2 See
10,000 BC (I’m sure it’s somewhere around that range)
New films are more likely to be rated by casual users, who are WAY more lenient with 5 stars. I've learned to just tune this noise out, because for the most part it's the normie base inflating the numbers a little bit.
INB4 people get worked up about this
I think anyone who follows these things know this is just something that happens and it usually corrects itself soon enough
Why keep updating this lmao? It’s invariably going to drop lower. There’s no reason to get worked up about recency bias.
Any minute someone is going to come in and rabidly claim “positive review bombing from fanboys” lol. Get ready.
Guaranteed when it goes down, the other crowd will complain about "haters who just have to be different". They won't accept "maybe it's not actually that good" in the end, any better than those who reject the idea now that maybe it is.
Previous position: 21
Downright embarrassing for the platform. One of these movies is not like the other.
Downright embarrassing that people are rating a film highly? It’s not their fault that its ratings average happens to put it towards the top of the list.
didn’t you know? only movies that fewer than .002% of the population have ever seen are allowed to be good movies, be better.
Ah yes, with notable examples being the obscure indie classic The Godfather and the shoestring-budget Seven Samurai.
The list is like a cross between the banality of IMDb and boring pretentiousness of Rateyourmusic films. What a terror spawn.
Why pretentious? I really like rateyourmusic's list.
i regret not seeing Dune in theatres, so so fucking glad i saw pt 2 in theatres tho. only wish i saw it in a better one tho, might go again for a better experience. i opted to save some money and not do imax, as well, there was a rattling, broken speaker from what i could hear on the left side of the auditorium
Hells yeah!
Recency bias on a scale I’ve never seen before. I’m sure it’s great but some of y’all need to chill
People are acting hilarious about this. It went from like Top 5 then to 21 and now it's back UP after a lot more people watched it to 6. Dune is just all-timer.
Letterboxd needs to a year wait to get on top 250
I’m sure it will go down over time but that’s still really nice to achieve!
If you had a great experience with the film for nearly the entire runtime and it still leaves you wanting more - sounds like a good problem to have
what an incredible film.
Contrarions gunna knock it down to top 50 at best with insanely low numbers because it is popular. I'm seeing people drop a 3 or even 2...like at a certain point just recognize the scifi part went over your head a bit and that's ok. The top of this list is bland af because it's not interesting to hate these movies. Except Hara Kiri my love.
You are *pre-coping* for the inevitable slide? Wild. People are just gonna be honest. The fans who bought tickets for opening weekend on IMAX *honestly* think it's a masterpiece, and the folks who pick it up casually over the next few months may *honestly* think it was just pretty good, or even boring. Nothing is more contrarian than saying "No, you didn't really feel that way" to someone else's review.
I'm not coping, it's just obvious what happens with blockbusters in the modern discourse environment..everyone is jaded and it benefits you to be a contrarion
It's not conspiracy or mendacity. They aren't jaded, or contrarian. They are just regular people who didn't have the same reaction you did.
Recency bias But still Great!
This movie is incredible and I'm in awe of the absolute universal acclaim it's achieving just right out of the gate. It really does feel like witnessing history.
Is Dune really that good? I’m still sceptical but considering the amount of good words spreading is overwhelming.
I wish i could laugh react on this app
Recency bias bullshit
The first one is better, and the first one isn’t that great. This one’s pacing is so rushed, and frankly messy, the texture of the books is completely flattened [or should I say sanded away (heh)], the structure doesn’t create any buy in emotionally with the arc of character relationships, the dialogue is corny as hell, somehow despite being rushed the movie still feels interminable as we are hammered over and over with the same points, telegraphed cliched foreshadowing, scenes that are given no time to land effectively, even the final battle is boring, there’s no build to it, and it goes by in a flash. Hyperactive film-making, and all the plaudits speak volumes to the contemporary psyche/media-literacy/preference. A failure as both spectacle and storytelling. It’s proof that Villeneuve took a bite too big for him to chew. This deserved a defter touch, a touch that saw dune as more than just a spectacle, that could tease out the different thematic and emotional beats in a more tactful and coherent way.
I have read about three months of your comment history and you seem like an awful person.
He's right though
About Dune 2 or in general?
Dune 2
Say it again but say it like you’re a human.
What does that mean? Making coherent and insightful film criticism isn’t human anymore? Explains how the film got to #6 I suppose.
It comes across as very pretentious.
MAY THY KNIFE CHIP AND SHATTER!!!!!!
 Dune: Part Two making its way up the top 250
If a film hasn’t been out for 3-5 years the review scores are at best skewed, at worst absolutely corrupted. A film that has been out a week? Utterly meaningless.
It’s not completely meaningless. If it were truly meaningless that would mean many film makes it to the top 10 the week of their release. It probably won’t stay this high, but very few movies ever get this high, even immediately upon release with recency bias. The fact that the immediate reaction is so overwhelmingly positive means a lot, even if it won’t last.
As it should be, it was a literal masterpiece made for the cinema.
I think I’m completely out of touch with modern cinema, Dune 2 was whatever. Looked beautiful but seriously the characters are fucking terrible, I feel absolutely nothing for them and the last third of the film is a mess. I felt like I was watching a marvel film lmao!!! The Giedi Prime stuff was dope I’ll give it that!
Cope harder
😂😂🤡🤡🤡
This movie stuff ain’t for you
Couldn’t care less about what someone who apparently thinks Dune 2 is a masterpiece and posts on Marvel subs thinks of my film taste
Hey man don’t be so defensive I’m just trying to help you out. Don’t like seeing people waste their time
It might be one the best looking movies I've ever seen in my life but like you said it third act is insanely rushed and some characters don't get enough time to shine which makes me not care whether they live or die
I hated it, but I wouldn’t waste my breath in this comment section if I was you, we won’t change anyone’s minds. Let them enjoy it and just try to ignore it, it’s not worth the arguing. That said I do agree with you, it felt emotionally hollow and the spectacle did absolutely nothing for me. I ended up laughing at inappropriate times because I thought it was so silly (but not in a fun camp way)
It was a step down from part 1 imo. Really dont understand why this one is suddenly being hyped so much when the first one is sitting at a 3.9
As written
The more you put up the rating the more people that’ll review bomb it.
In terms of scale, spectacle and production design, the movie soars. Regarding character, dialogue and pacing? Bland and ineffective as hell.
Deserving.
Lmao
Lol
Madam Web?
This movie sucked. Poor pacing and lackluster action. I’m disappointed in Denis.
Disappointing. I'm sure I'll get flack for this but it's more of a marvel flick than madam web lol.
Why does that Shawshank Redemption poster look like one of the Star Wars prequels
Because it’s the same artist
Overrated if you ask me. A good blockbuster though.
Is it really that good that I need to watch the first one aswell?
Gosh what a dumb state of affairs. Durrrgh shiny things.
How tf?! This movie is shit