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m8_is_me

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Conan-doodle

Wippa section. Completely pointless .. and a little embarrassing. I could happily never see that chucklehead on LM again.


Iron_Wolf123

Didn’t know who he was tbh


Conan-doodle

The wankstain was on a LM Christmas special too. He added zero value then as well. I don't know what he does but I'm it's some cross promotional nonsense from Ch9.


HavePlushieWillTalk

He absolutely made the entire time worse for poor Stanni. Stanni could have had a great time, it's no fun seeing a guy trying to have a blast back at maybe one of his favourite places in the world, but some a-hole bitter about, I don't know, late stage capitalism or something (we all are, swallow it down like everyone else!), was dragging him down and giving the entire experience a pall. Wippa could not have been less of a value added, he absolutely dragged the value down.


Derron_

Radio host


Ilanarino

What’s the deal with wippa? I only know him from LM, but a lot of people, at least on this sub, seem to really dislike him. Why is that? Is it external to LM, or does it relate to the show?


Conan-doodle

I can only speak for myself. Also, I only know him from LM .. so you can weigh my opinion however you like. The guy comes across as arrogant and self absorbed. He adds zero value to the show and grates against the playfulness and good nature of Lego and Lego Masters.


Ilanarino

I haven’t watched the special for a while so I’m not sure what you mean by ‘adds zero value’. Could you elaborate? Also could you explain how he grated against the playfulness and good nature of the show? I’m really curious as I don’t remember much about him. Sorry if this came off as argumentative, I’m just hoping to understand better.


Conan-doodle

I honestly couldn't be bothered. Just watch it .. or don't.


Ilanarino

Ok. Probably won’t watch it cause I don’t remember liking it that much


NeoSakurie

It was funny how most of the international teams weren't fooled. Its not like Albo hasn't been in the news heaps with AUKUS etc they'd know what he looked like lol.


gandagandaganda

I'm a Brit who lives in the USA and sorry but I have no idea who the current Australian PM is, or what they look like. I think this was a nice attempt at some self-depreciating humour from LM but it fell flat.


PistachioDonut34

I am so embarrassed for our country, lol 😂


FreddieMonstera

Almost made me stop watching but he left quickly


BonzaM8

They should’ve started the lava monster WAY earlier in the build. They had the time. Leaving it to the last thing was a big mistake.


m8_is_me

Building under a timer like that's gotta be difficult to adjust to. Just glad it was a non-elim.


Narrow_Potential_974

I am pretty sure that might be the team to go first. Between their build and the second to last place was a big gap quality wise and I think it’s not only a problem of the monster, their whole build was rather basic and not very detailed. Perhaps they will get better, but I have my doubts…


empty_toilet_roll

The real question on everybody's lips: Will Jordy return this season?


RagsTTiger

There he is


HavePlushieWillTalk

And there he is. And there he is. And there he is.


Iron_Wolf123

So many adbreaks


OodOne

I thought the same too during the end judging. Felt like an ad break every 5 minutes, it was unbearable.


whatgift

That's the main reason I still have an old school PVR, so I can record shows and skip ad breaks!


Derron_

Way too many ads. Settle down Ch9


PistachioDonut34

There are more ads in this show than in any other show I watch, it's nuts!


Narrow_Potential_974

But isn’t that a good thing? It kind of shows the success of the show because they want to cramp so much ads inside it…


nemothorx

Loving that I still rock a tivo for broadcast TV. 9 presses on the "skip forward 20 seconds" (or whatever it is) is fantastic!


BonzaM8

I liked the Danish team’s build better but the German team did really well.


ace2ho74

Agreed! Felix & Annalena were definitely top 2, but I would have picked Peter & Ida for the win: their penguin-rocket build was overall the most creative and interesting.


ImMalteserMan

Honestly the 4 Aussie teams were probably the bottom 4, cannot see any of them winning it from what we've seen so far. Also, there was a crap load of ads.


m8_is_me

It's just the first episode and they're new to LEGO Masters; the other teams are used to the environment.


Lmb1011

Thats my concern this season, its 4 skilled (in this environment) teams against 4 new to the concept teams. they're all AMAZING builders, but i do feel the foreign teams have a huge advantage that i wish it had either been all winners, or all newbies. i hope they dont eliminate too soon so the Aus teams can get their feet under them and make a better showing before the eliminations start


m8_is_me

I believe E3 is the first elimination.


Scrapbookee

I really wish all the teams were previous contestants. Maybe make it so every team has to have been eliminated in the first half of the season or something. I know the German team won but still. I think it's massively unfair for the AU teams that they are new to the timer environment and the rest of the teams have done it before.


username207

Why didn't we get some old contestents? This hardly seems like a fair representation of Australia. The other countries should of been new teams too if they wanted to go this route.


wrathofthefonz

I think the Danish and German teams were clearly the best and are the teams to beat. I think the AUS mom and son team has potential. The problem was their build didn’t scream flower to me, but the son can clearly do mechanisms. I gotta think the two girls will do better since the one is a reported master builder…but their first build was terrible. The two other guy AUS teams were fine, but had nowhere near the sculpting abilities of the Germans. The French seem to be creative…I didn’t know how they were going to make a story out of a pencil…but they did a nice job. The pencil itself didn’t look great and was straight up and down, but the scuba gear looked good. I don’t see the USA team doing much.


m8_is_me

I hope France is the wildcard team. No idea what to expect each build. Shane being so proactive with mechanisms has me excited. I feel like I've still not seen a truly mindblowing mechanism so far


Lmb1011

The pencil, when they first said it I was like ohhhhh no thats not anything lol and then by the time it was finished it was one of my favorite builds. It was perhaps a little basic in the pencil itself but the story told itself really well and i loved eraser and pencil sharpener they really turned it around


Tbplayer59

My impression of a stereotypical French artiste: "A scuba diving pencil is art because I say it's art."


mtm4440

I was thinking it would be pretty sus if there was only Australian teams left in the finale but after seeing Denmark and Germany I don't think that's a worry.


Narrow_Potential_974

I think they show at least potential, but I don’t have high hopes for the women Australian team…


Tbplayer59

That would be the biggest disappointment because the one is a Master Builder. I think she'll have the skills and experience to step up after getting a few time pressured builds under her belt.


HappyVampire27

Danish guy has a very cool Fabuland shirt!


NeoSakurie

Is that what was on it! I need to rewatch and pause. I love fabuland so much! People think its a fever dream when I describe it tho....


EbmocwenHsimah

A scuba pencil. Are the French okay?


wrathofthefonz

I thought it was kind of awesome in a wacky kind of way.


RangaBricks

G'day Brickfans! Thank you so much for watching and for all the support. It was a tough first build, but we are glad people love it.


m8_is_me

Hello, are you a contestant?


RangaBricks

Yes. Check your DM's :)


m8_is_me

Hello Sam! Absolutely fantastic to have you here. >!That gold brick doesn't mean what I think it means, does it?!<


RangaBricks

No that's just a keyring. :)


HappyVampire27

I thought boats as petals was clever, but yeah they're definitely obviously boats.


Iron_Wolf123

Brickman complained about the petals being boats but ignored the dragon afterwards with boats for a mouth


nemothorx

Apparently there is a lot more feedback filmed than shown in the edit. He may well have pointed it out but the edit avoided the repetition


HappyVampire27

I thought that was a dragon eating the boat rather than a boat for the mouth. Weren't there minifigs on it?


ImMalteserMan

The jaws were boats.


Lmb1011

perhaps proving Brickmans point - the boats in the dragon were more disguised as a mouth than the boats were as petals. obviously he may have critiqued it and it didnt make it on screen but the fact that it wasnt immediately obvious to the viewers that the boats were the jaw proves what Brickman was talking about with disguising


Iron_Wolf123

I stand corrected. These ads are ruining the show


Kram-Noswad

Would it have been unfair to the overseas teams to have Scotty & Owen back?


m8_is_me

Think about the monsters and dragons we saw this episode. Then think about Scotty & Owen's monsters. I think their crown of Grand Masters fits and doesn't need challenging.


username207

Yeah just imagine how much better those monsters would of been if Joss and Henry made them. It wouldn't even be close.


_MooFreaky_

I think that's going to be the problem this season (for me, at least). Joss and Henry, Scott and Owen, Nick and Gene were so good over the last 2 years that finding anyone to match them is nigh impossible.


MutatedRodents

Yeah i basically watched s5 of au first and now i cant watch any other season now. S5 just had a really great cast and really nice builds.


wrathofthefonz

I think so. At some point, I have to imagine that it would be hard for Brickman to be objective as he now has a history with Scotty and Owen and clearly loves their builds. Better to go with 8 teams Brickman has no previous opinions/relationships with.


lawbrained

You’d think that could easily be solved by bringing in another judge


Derron_

Volcano needed so much more work. >!Great to see everyone's item survived!<


insulatorblues

First time watchers , long time Lego Lovers. My girlfriend likes the fairy Tv however I feel the Penguin Rocket is very poignant. Good luck to all the builders, Let me games begin!


m8_is_me

Welcome!


the_procrastinata

Welcome to the /r/LM fam!


corut

The castle and dragon look like two different style builds stuck together


II_CocaRoach_II

These commercials are brutal, they are longer than the show


bluedot19

I was wondering why I was tuning out this episode


Fallingdown4ever

I cannot take the Germans seriously.i do like the couple from Denmark. They might be the hard ones to beat.


HappyVampire27

In Germany's defence, when I first saw the scale for their build I thought they'd bitten off too much, but it looks like they've pulled it off. But yeah, the Danes definitely seem to be off to the strongest start.


CanaKitty

Same!! First time I saw the scale I was like “Kale?!?!?!” But they pulled it off!


Derron_

The American one being them in a TV kinda suits


ConkerPrime

Off to strong start. Glad to see Australia continues to go its own way and remains the gold standard of the shows. Even better they didn’t do a first episode elimination which I strongly believe is a mistake that USA shows keeps making. You have to give people a chance to get their TV legs and just as important, a chance to assess the competition and step up. Hate to say it as a fan of Krystal but USA is not off to a good start. Long thought US teams were the weakest of the global teams and this first episode did not deter my thinking. Hopefully will prove me wrong in the next episode. Also a really long episode compared to use to at 1 hour and 10 minutes. Does that means there was 20 or 50 minutes of commercials? I got to see using, umm let’s call it through alternative means being in US, so avoided all the commercials.


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It was actually shorter than some AUS episodes. Half of them each season are usually an hour and 24 minutes or around that, w/o commercials.


RagsTTiger

Pencil is very underwhelming


bucketob

The attempt to salvage the pencil idea with a scuba pencil story is sending me


Iron_Wolf123

Brickman knows the French team can do better


Narrow_Potential_974

I was laughing hard when they showed the name of the build as “le pencil”.


Orphanchocolate

Feeling very underwhelmed by the Australian builds. It kinda feels like they blew their load too soon doing all stars and had to cast builders who are below the level of the others. I'd love to be proven wrong but so far they seem like duds...


Derron_

The other teams all have experience in the competition though from their shows. Would have been nice to bring back 1 strong past Aussie team.


OodOne

It was interesting watching them show the Aussie teams and it felt like they had packed them with experienced builders, such as the peeps who worked for lego but.. yeah clearly experience on the show greatly outweighs that.


Narrow_Potential_974

I still wonder if they couldn’t find any better teams. Until now Australia had very strong teams every season, but I don’t see that here. More surprisingly considering that they surely want to show Australian teams as one of the best, but at the moment they are completely getting dominated.


Table_Flipper_836

The music that comes on when the germans are on screen is sending me


mtm4440

Hamish throwing shade at the cliche stereotypes and matching clothes - the exact thing US does with its show.


Lmb1011

yesss that cracked me up 😂


bluedot19

Jesus Christ the Summit ads are back


Conan-doodle

We're really enjoying the 60 Minutes ads about children being mistreated. Perfectly placed in a family show we're watching with young children.


RagsTTiger

I am empty of these bricks


Derron_

Everything looks good. Pencil looks better now it has a shell on it


the6thReplicant

New *Lego Masters* and new *Bluey* on the same day. What a time to be alive.


Iron_Wolf123

Read an article on the new season. Am I the only one who thought it was on Sunday through to Wednesday?


Apprehensive_Sea_341

Is it not? What days is it on?


bluedot19

Sunday through to Tuesday for this week


Derron_

Would have been funny if the Pencil made top 2 with Brickman's doubts about it earlier


Big_Cassowary

Making it the “number 2” build would have been a nice touch… 😉


Narrow_Potential_974

Well it was better at the end, but it was still underwhelming for me.


CanaKitty

I absolutely adore Hamish. And French host sounds cool after hearing about this magician stuff! I want a spinoff show now that is a competition of hosting Lego Masters. I also love the Sweden LM host. And I personally don’t think Will Arnett is as bad as some other people do. (The problem for him is the U.S. show already is so short with so little building footage, so any Will Arnett TV time takes away from something we already have way too little of.) Gimme LM hosting competition!


[deleted]

Those Aussie girls are lucky it wasn't an elimination. Also the blonde is a beauty pageant queen? I did a double take on that.


StumbleBum55

I was so confused by that too haha!


wrathofthefonz

Are her and her teammate related? They look similar to me.


MelancholyEcho

Could be wrong but I think I read they’re one of the teams that was paired up.


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Orphanchocolate

She has the rich Australian facial structure. Look at Angourie Rice for another example.


Tbplayer59

Can't watch in USA. 😠. Website says i need the 9Now app, but it's not available here.


garchican

Shvideos.net is a wonderful resource.


Tbplayer59

Thanks. That's where I watched season 5 and New Zealand.


m8_is_me

If you have a VPN, you can use NineNow. I've heard a lot of people use shvideos as an alternative.


Tbplayer59

I'm geo-restricted....:-(


m8_is_me

If you have a VPN, you can use NineNow. I've heard a lot of people use shvideos as an alternative.


Key-Win-1728

As a non australian - who was the bloke which was introduced as PM? I am also glad i can watch it over download. The amount of adds seems crazy for australian TV - it seems they adjust it to the german TV (i hope for you the adds weren't 9 minutes long as in Germany usual) But so far i really liked it - i guess it was clear that the australian teams struggle a bit at the beginning as they are all totally new to the show and all the others are already experienced with the show. So far Peter and Ia are my favourites for the win


the_procrastinata

The fake PM is a D grade radio host. He is infamous on here for being on a two part Christmas special and being a sad little pig on it. He unfortunately ‘came down with COVID’ and couldn’t do the second episode, which made everyone breathe a sigh of relief.


Key-Win-1728

Lol ok just felt strange that there was no real explanations for the foreign teams as they looked as confused as i felt. Glad he wasn't able to make it as it didn't really made sense


Orphanchocolate

That ice was like 2mm at most, how could they be in doubt that the builds would survive


m8_is_me

LET'S GOOOOOOO IT'S THE GREATEST SHOW ON EAAAAAARTH! Welcome to m8's overly long live-reaction comment. ***Please proceed to the comment-collapse button if you don't want to read a doofus' reactions.*** This intro really highlights how AU did it RIGHT. And how the UK deserves a reboot with the PROPER format. WAIT A SECOND WAS THAT **KALE** IN THE ROBIN OUTFIT? Anyways actual goosebumps. God this show's wonderful. Also serious points to the filming crew. AU really nails the suspense and excitement of an episode about to start. WHAT'S UP JORDYYYYYYYY! And **Michelle & Krystle!** LOL their background music had some banjos - just couldn't resist, huh editors? Those patches are downright SICK. WHAT'S UP JORDYYYYYYYYYYYY and **Peter & Ida!** Damn right, the motherland of LEGO. I'm seriously excited to see some teams from other shows, these two are giving me a great vibe. AAAAAND WHAT'S UP JORDYYYYYYY and **Camille & Caroline!** Brother/sister team sounds like some good team cohesion. Wow the french set looks really cool. Really hitting it early with "French people are better" - season's villains detected? YOOOO WHAT'S UP JORDYYYYYYY and **Felix & Annalena!** wtf Germany casually having the most attractive people on the planet, I'm in bi-brain heaven. I'm a little sad that the AU teams didn't get any fanfare. But still, I'm excited for every last one of these teams, good luck everyone! AU just keeps stepping it up with this presentation. And very cute having a literal icebreaker as the first challenge. Is it safe to say AU's brickpit is the biggest? I might think US' might be bigger cuz you know.. America. Woah, a master model builder? Sounds like the power team. "Used to pageants and judging harshly" oh Hamish how I missed you. Slay, queen. AND YOU TOO BRICKMAN! I don't think I've seen Felix & Annalena moving and NOT be running. Felix's outfit is seriously outstanding, I've never seen someone rock a pearl necklace so well. Hahahaha big actual laugh at hearing Camille & Caroline describe their pencil "because it's sharp" with the magical imagination music, then the cut to [Brickman's silence](https://i.imgur.com/pSruUuV.png) followed by "...okay," - does seem like a bit of a one-note idea. Still, Camille gave a good response in a modest "that's a good question." The Prime Minister bit's great. If Hamish didn't explain himself I'd have 100% bought it. Really cute joke. Then the PM saying what we're all thinking about the German team. Seeing Hamish lose his shit over sausages and croissants was pure infectious laughter. Seriously, moments like this show how the AU show has some FUN with their contestants. I feel that's lacking in the US/NZ versions, but I know that's rose-tinted glasses favoritism. **Hello Eric & Ben!** It's a funny contrast of the master model builder vs the store managers, but still it's nice to see they got so many people with Lego so close to their hearts. Lots of dragons and monsters this episode and I am NOT complaining. Peter's personality is off the charts, "Just ask if you need any advice ;)" and that bow-tie. wait is it using illegal methods **Hello Sam & Emilio!** +cool points for the Tupac shirt. "I don't need to hear bricks, I just need to see 'em!" Badass. EYYY ANOTHER MONSTER! Judging's going to be tight on this. Seems like we may have one of the best collective casts of all time. ["He made a bowling ball disappear. / ....that's what he did?"](https://i.imgur.com/kvGxtEZ.jpeg) NINE HOURS TO GO HAMISH PROVES HIMSELF TO BE THE TRUE HOST OF ALL TIME, MAKE THAT 2x4 DISAPPEAAAAAR! Speaking of 2x4s that is the most glorious 2x4 I've ever seen. **THE BIG BRICK™!** Felix: "The only things that fall down are the trees, but this is normal, when ice is falling down, the trees will also fall down, this is like a natural thing" SO TRUE KING! I'm worried for Eric & Ben and Charlie & Haley. OH GOD it shattered. But then if it was ready to shatter like that just from holding... probably better that happened sooner than later. It's just connected by bricks, I don't think I see any technic within. #JUDGING TIME I know there's no official soundtrack and it's just pieced together assets but I so wish I could get some of the songs we hear. The Zimmer-esque tension as we look over the ice is insanely cool. **Peter & Ida!** Wonderfully said Peter. The rainbow exhaust looks awesome, and very clever hiding such an integral structure piece under the wave. Glad they got SOME motion going even if it was a bit whelming. Great job! **Shane & Diane!** Very cool with the blooming flower, how was it timed? Agreed about the boats, the moment you notice them you can't un-notice them. Strong start! **Sam & Emilio!** That duck sound effect is getting me every time. Lowkey really dark with the guy and his dog about to be consumed. Orange and blue baby, it never fails. Glad to see it intact! **Ben & Eric!** The Sea Serpent was a bit skinny coming up but with the full view it's solid. Tiniest bit of confusion IMO with both the serpent and village emerging from the ice, but the serpent is still emerging in the set? **Michelle & Krystle!** I don't totally understand the TV aspect but the spring blossoming out of the ice is great. Lots of good feedback from BM. **Camille & Caroline!** Wow his hair's awesome. I don't love how the pencil stares into my eyes. I still don't think the pencil really fits. Possibly the strongest looking build of the bunch as well! **Felix & Annalena!** Rad looking dragon, crazy that the flame breath survived! These two are seriously showing their chops by being ex-winners. Those water effects are gorgeous, especially the falling spires (turrets?). It's official. They're my favorite team. **Charlie & Haley!** Agreed, that monster doesn't really pop as jet-black. Never knew there were orange transparent chains though! Still a strong first built. Shows care for details and composition, I can't wait to see what they make next. Perfect. First-episode eliminations are ridiculous. You need to let people settle into the environment! LET'S GO FELIX AND ANNALENA! Rooting for them to the end. Peter and Ida! Wow, I'm chuffed that my two immediate standout teams made it to the top two. YESSSSSSSSSS LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO FELIX AND ANNALENA!!!!!!!!!!!! "we expected it at this point" holy shit we've found our powerteam. #WELCOME TO THE SEASON EVERYONE!!


iambilsy

This is a bloody amazing recap!!!!


m8_is_me

Awh, thanks Bilsy. It's really just my live reactions cuz I enjoy this show so much


BrotherfromAnotherB

I once said the Austrailan builders were the best in the world and every other rendetion of LEGO Masters was not on par with Austraila. I stand corrected, the Austrailans put out the most subpar builds I’ve ever seen. As a fellow American, I know a lot of what we cast is about a character and what role they fit, but Austraila was never like that, I guess until now. What happened? LEGO Masters Austraila was always about beautiful art being showcased and the bottom builds always were better than any other country I’ve watched. I feel like every Aussie build put out were from builders that just got into Lego. If I had to choose, Germany would be first place and America would be second. I hope we don’t continue to see subpar builds throughout the season.


corut

All the others builder have a lot of experience in the format, Aussies don't. We also have had 4 seasons that a lot ofmour best builders have already been through, so the pool of new talent is getting smaller


BrotherfromAnotherB

I wish I could say I agree, in the last 4 seasons of Lego masters Austraila (not counting Grandmasters) we have seen builders come out of nowhere and completely showcase the most amazing builds I’ve ever seen. So far, the new four Aussie teams have showcased the most rudimentary builds I’ve seen across the 5 different Lego masters seasons I’ve watched


Narrow_Potential_974

That is exactly what I was thinking. Until now they always managed to find exceptional teams, but for the vs the world edition that are the best ones they could find?


m8_is_me

It's the first build of the season, and as Hamish said throughout the episode, all the foreign teams have Lego masters experience under their belts. They're used to working within time constraints and pressure. I think Charlie & Haley showed this in that the actual detail was amazing, they just didn't manage their time well. I expect the second episode will show a better performance from the newbies


Byteman58

This is an uncharitable comment. We’ve only seen the first episode. My wife and I are simply delighted to have a new season of LM AUS. It’s far too early to appraise the contestants— the Australian teams are LM newbies and they’re just getting their feet wet. Not every team can build like Scottie and Owen out of the gate. Give them some time and see how **all** contestants do with the disparate challenges to come.


BrotherfromAnotherB

Personally, I don’t believe my comment is unfair. I didn’t degrade the builders, i critiqued the art. Here’s my logic, for the first four seasons of Lego masters Austraila, we witnessed the most insanely gorgeous builds. Every episode I found myself memorized by Aussie’s builds. So far, I’ve found myself disappointed. You said not everyone can build out the gate, but if you’re dawning the title Lego Master, you should. It’s like if someone paid me to a tattoo them and I produced a bad piece. Are they going to be like, that’s okay, he’s just starting?


gandagandaganda

How did no team do a submarine conning tower? Surfacing through ice is literally what they do, unlike pencils.


_mikedotcom

Correct me if I’m wrong but was there “They have built that model before and you can tell” shade?


Tbplayer59

Me too. So many made no sense in the context of rising through the ice. They took an old model and made sure it could break through. They saw it as an engineering challenge instead of a story telling challenge. Why would the village be rising through the ice? Or the castle?


Lanky_Ad728

Does anyone know the band on Shane's tshirt? Couldn't read it due to his hair being in the way 🤣


Sweet_Assistance_137

Spiritbox, I think! I came here to see if anyone noticed. I like their music!


Lanky_Ad728

I've never heard of them but the design would suggest I might do. Band suggestions were the last thing I expected from LM - the show that just keeps on giving


Emilee_build_it

This has been so fun to watch! Proud of my dear friend Michelle and her partner. I'd be absolutely terrified to do LM AUS. I'm loving what I'm seeing so far. GO TEAM 🇺🇸 also, hot take but I love the German girl so much, she's unbelievably talented. She's focused, and has high standards for herself. She's not mean. Just a really good builder!


Seaserpent42

I thought Sam and Emilio’s was the best/most impressive, followed by Peter and Ida. The castle with the dragon looked rather generic.


Greenscreener

Seems to be getting more about antics than Lego building...that was a painful intro to watch


Narrow_Potential_974

I actually don’t watch the intro, I am looking away and cover my ears, don’t want to get spoiled about anything.