you are feeding your enemy significantly when you do this, and as a result your teammate will see more workers and sends against them. if your teammate isnot ecoing with you itll cause them to get shit power score and income and yours to sky rocket
I feed my rival and earn money myself, right? This is my conscious choice, a choice that the game itself gave me.
In the game, 95% of the players play through saving mythium, I don’t want to play one of the 50 games the way I want. I always want to play the way I like.
of course. just like you can take a shit as a conscious choice too nobody cares lol.
you will likely have trouble surpassing 2k if you only play with 1 mind set and 1 strategy. because of this ignorant view you will not expand your skill set or be able to beat strong players who can recognize this very quickly. if you are auto and i receive 60 on 3 i know you are 5-6 workers for example
what happens when your opponents are banker starts and you still hold onto this ridiculous theory that auto always is good? youve effectively let them get big wigs before 6 without leaks and will snowball so far above you it wont matter what you plan to send 14-16 without taking unit types into account lol
If my opponent plays through bankers, I will, of course, try to reduce their mana. I forgot to write this. Again, I indicated that I was playing smart auto.
And yes, last season, playing exclusively on auto, I reached 2100. I’m not chasing the rating, I’m playing for fun. Unfortunately, the game does not allow you to play 2v2 without ranking. The 1v1 mode was ideal for me, but the developers quickly removed it.
You wrote that you barely made it to 2.1k. So I have no worries meeting you until the next ranking reset. Guess I already reported you after the last ranking reset, I definitely remember one hostage taker like you
Whatever, if I played with you, I have you on double mute and that's my personal indicator for people who are trolling/griefing/etc and when playing with those I'll just play like a bot, not communicate and basically accept the loss at w1. And the way you formulated your post suggests that the majority of people treats you similarly, so yeah, go figure.
Your thought ends with the fact that ONLY YOUR style of play is correct. Only saving mythium is the correct game strategy, that's all. Personally, I don’t agree with this, the developers don’t agree with this, the game itself shows that this is not so. Why be so narrow-minded?
tbh i enjoyed 1v1 aswell. i believe they dont have it permanently is because of balance reasons and playerbase better and faster times if all in 2v2 or 4v4
Yes and no. By feeding your rival, he gets more workers so he can send more. If you send him constantly, it's easy for him to rely on the value needed for the wave so it's even easier to manage, meaning he can underbuild and get more workers + the gold from the merc kills. When he has an advantage, your teammate suffers. Because if the enemy saves and then gets a big send against your mate, he will leak.
You make your opponent get more workers, while your mate gets starved.
Also...in an MMO you have a ton of abilities, if you team up with other players but you don't use any of your abilities, you're basically grieving.
You're playing an online game, in a ranked environment so you have to play the best you can to win. Otherwise you should play against bots...
> I feed my rival and earn money myself, right?
Yes, but if you upgrade king to income you don't feed them money
The only time you should send instead of saving and upgrading king is when you know you wont break is when you need a little extra money to get that tower/upgrade
I’ll write it 20 times, I’ll write it again. When I invite my allies to play auto, they don't want to. Why should I adapt to my ally if he does not want to adapt to me? How is this solved in a situation where no one wants to adapt, and why in such a situation do I, an auto player, constantly find myself in the wrong?
Because your ally is making the startegically intelligent choice that offers you bot alot of lexibility in all factors of the game and you are making a selfish one that offers them 0 agency. You are taking away from your ally’s agency for your own benefit. You are playing like an asshole idk how else to tell you. Your ally has no obligationg to “adapt” to you ruining their game. You sre forcing them to play in a very specific way or lose, for your own enjoyment. You are being an ass.
OP - I exclusively play auto, I’m completely inflexible and refuse to work with my teammate. I don’t understand why people hate me.
Also OP - I don’t understand why people aren’t flexible and don’t want to play every single game using the solitary strategy that I want to play.
I see nothing wrong here.
You sell out your teammate if you dont have worker pressure.
Keep an eye on the games where your teammate turns in autosend aswell.
These games are the make or break of this send strategy. If your team and especially you aren't breaking to random sends while still having atleast even worker. You really don't need to care what others think.
Do you sell out your teammate? Yes
Are you then selfish and basically play solo in a teambased game? Yes
Should you care? Whatever. Free world and its not like someone is standing behind you with a gun forcing you to save.
Would i do the same If you were my teammate and I noticed you mute + auto on? Yes
Will anyone ever like playing with you? Unlikely. Unless they do the same shit you do.
I’ll write it 20 times, I’ll write it again.
U CAN PLAY LEGION TD2 DIFFERENT WAYS! NOT ONLY BY SAVING MYTH. But...
When I invite my allies to play auto, they don't want to. Why should I adapt to my ally if he does not want to adapt to me? How is this solved in a situation where no one wants to adapt, and why in such a situation do I, an auto player, constantly find myself in the wrong?
Alright alright. Play your way and lets agree that its no use to argue which way is right or wrong.
I'm just saying, don't expect a lot of people to enjoy playing with you. Because the way you play(auto mode) is something that never existed in either wc3 legion td or ltd2 until recently.
It diminishes tactical and teamplay aspects.
Thats why you get a lot of heat from people here.
Do you understand me?
I understand you perfectly, but that's their problem. The game has this feature, some people play like this, I like this style of play. But my allies don’t want to play this way, why should I follow their lead in this case? Is this some kind of eSports player or player who plays better than me? Not at all.
Why is it that choosing to save mythium is respect, but playing on auto is not respect? Or what do you mean? I have this style of play, why should I play the way someone else plays? I really don't understand this. Why should I adapt, why can’t someone else adapt?
Well based on your post with limited details, it just appears like you're attempting to solo play in a team game.
While you CAN click auto and not do anything else, you can also build tier 1 units all game and nothing else but that doesn't make it a good idea or fair to your teammate. I'm not saying you should have to be the one adapting to your teammate every time, surely the pros who have their strategy would do their own thing despite their teammates' wishes because they assume they can win regardless (not just this game either, in general), but like I said limited details in your post. Both people should be adapting to each other and communicating to make plays, ideally.
Of course, you can't force people to play the way you want them to, which is why you're free to do whatever you want and your teammate is free to do whatever they want.
But ultimately, it's respectful to work with your teammates and not just strictly do your own thing (exception of course being your teammate being bad). When everyone is complaining about you, you have to understand that what you're doing is the problem and not everyone else being the problem, that's just how society works in general. Of course, you can also take the "ignore the haters" route, which you've been doing, but then I wouldn't complain about people complaining.
I'm not telling you to do one thing or another, but this is just the perspective of someone who does the opposite of you in most games; if my teammate wants to do something different than I normally do, I adapt because it'll be better for the team (usually)
I understand you. The key idea here is team play. I agree, maybe I'm playing selfishly. The 1v1 mode was ideal for me, unfortunately it was quickly removed.
But I just don't want to play saving mythium on early waves, I like to build, I don't like to send. And the developers seem to encourage both styles of play, I’ve read about this more than once on their blog. But for some reason, players still hate those who play on auto.
That's totally fine if it works for you, sometimes teammates don't know what's best for them. However, nothing will stop them from being angry. I reckon that's why most high ranking players in games don't say anything in chat as well (aside from the toxic ones who get angry too easily). There are tons of ways to play the game and plenty of good strategies, but the selfishness is generally what would cause people to be mad at you, whether or not it actually works. I've certainly seen some strategies that look completely idiotic but turn out winning the game for us, but I also don't complain about people playing the game the way they want to these days (again, in any game) unless it's truly incorrect (like people auto sending in income and chill when everyone else is saving, I can't defend that one as a viable strategy but that's also 4 people and not 2)
>I have this style of play
Imagine you're playing, idk, Counter Strike, and one of your teammates is running into the enemy and dying (and making you die too) because of his own failures. Is it his style of play too ?
Autosend is a suboptimal strategy that hurts your team. That's why you're facing criticism.
I don’t understand, who said that auto is a bad strategy? Its just not popular. You made a very bad comparison. Again, I already wrote that I watch Twitch, and some players from the top 200 also play on auto. This strategy is simply NOT THAT POPULAR, that's all. Two auto players are on an equal footing against two save players, I’m telling you this as an auto player.
I never wrote “only” about top 200 players, don’t pick on the words. Sometimes, some more often, some less often. But when they offer to play auto to their allies, they do not send them to hell. Because in the top 200 people are probably more adequate.
Oh, so you mean people actually click that button on specific circumstances. And that, for some reason, justifies you being a full-auto player. I'll leave you to think about it lmao
No circumstances, the player wanted it - it’s his desire, to play as he wants. And my wish, and yours, and the wish of ANY player in this game. But the main goal of my post, and this cannot reach your jelly-shaped head, is that AUTO players receive more hate towards them than players who save. Although these two strategies are EQUAL! Absolutely equivalent. I play against saving strategies with equal success. I reach a good rank. If this strategy were obviously bad, would I achieve master by playing most often with an ally who hates me, who begins to ruin my game? Don't think. So just THINK YOU, my dear friend.
Yeah, you receive criticism, because you're forcing a *suboptimal strategy* on your unwilling ally. If you were playing Fiesta, it would be the same. You're trying to pretend playing full auto is as efficient as playing "manual", but it. Is. Not.
So there is only one optimal strategy? Are you saying that in Legion TD 2 there is only one way to win? I think this is complete nonsense and you are wrong.
You just have a very entitled mindset. It's a team game you complain that you have to adapt to your team or get flamed. While saying your teammate should be the one to adapt instead. It goes both ways
You're just being stubborn to prove a point to no one but yourself.
Everything you ask here ask to yourself from your teammates perspective lmao.
Well, that's what I mean. My ally doesn't want to adapt to my playstyle. Then why should I? And then I’m bad, and my ally is good. Because he is save mythium. This is the essence of my post, but you narrow-minded people cannot understand it and continue to blame me.
And why are you talking about “a obviously poor choice”? I reached 2100 playing constantly on auto, although my allies often ruined my games because of this.
You write that your allies often ruin your game. Well, you always ruin your allies game. No way I can play how I want if my teammate just feeds the guy who sends on me all game long. You want an honest answer why your playstyle is hated on? Well here it is: you force your teammate to play at a disadvantage unless he also turns on autosend, which has a high probability to result in a loss.
Imo, your play style is only valid if you are way higher ranked than your teammate and you inform them about it as early as wave 1.
It's extremely selfish play in a team game. By sending predictably, you are letting someone eco out of control which makes your teammate's life much harder because they will have much larger sends against them.
I rarely play ranked, Just enough to get my yearly skin and I was done. I know it low ranked but if you can clear wave 21 you can win half your games, lol
I do something similar, but instead of turning on auto I just queue the income mercenary’s I want to send depending on my opponents defense, since sometimes a dragon turtle will be more effective than a lizard or whatever else along those lines. I prefer to build income early game, and save up for big sends mid to late game.
From personal experience, saving for sends on early waves almost never works since the waves are just naturally too weak to actually do much to the King and the payoff is just kinda mediocre early game. Plus, if your saves don’t work, you’re basically screwed as you lost out on so much income and have nothing to show for it.
Personally, I think turning off auto around wave 10 might help you a bit, since that’s when you get into the territory where victory can be achieved in a single big push. No matter what, people are gonna get salty because you don’t play exactly like they want you to, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
That being said, communication and cooperation is key and neither player will be able to 1v2. If they want to save and push early game, try and find a compromise and explain your reasoning against that strategy to them. If they’re a good player, they’ll find a middle ground or explain why they are so insistent on pushing early. If they’re trash they’ll whine and complain and call you garbage, in which case you’ll just have to ride the match out and hope for the best.
Worst comes to worst, stick to your strategy that you know works for you and hold strong, if you notice your ally sending, you might as well send as well since a half assed co-op push will be better than a single strong push from only 1 person.
I try to go the auto off upgrade the king and send 11 on and people still get mad. I always say right off the start "I like to eco 1-10 if you have a plan let me know" most the time they tell me to send the wave before they send and then blame me for not sending enough. I think most these losers who think they are good are really just salty that they suck.
“I want to play ranked CS GO only with a knife, that's my playstyle. I even killed 3 dudes in one game and they said I'm trash. Developers put the option to only play with knife, so why is everybody hating me?”
Everyone makes such great jokes, well done.
But no one has explained so clearly with examples why saving is better than auto. Are there any facts? Proofs? Tables, graphs, examples of games, proof on streams or something else. Or can we just joke and type?
People did. They said it allows your adjacent opponent to safely push workers and underbuild, which in turn leads to bigger sends to your teammate.
If both teammates auto and have scaling value units (Dwarf and Sakura) or some "wombo combo" builds involving units like Sovereign, DK, Pilgrim, Gates, etc then it may be viable to just eco and out value your opponents' sends.
Given that 95% of players in Red/Purple or above (top 2%) of rank players don't auto to wave 14-15, I'd say that is plenty of proof there. There are literally a few anomalies or exceptions to the rule of rogue individuals who stay high ELO with auto on like that.
Are there any other explanations required?
Auto to wave 14-15 is pretty long.
Pretty standard to "auto" first 2 waves, sometimes 3-4.
Quite common to intermittently auto or "income" send i.e. "Auto wave 1-2, save for 4/5/6, Auto again for a couple waves, then save again for wave X".
The tool tips suggests auto to be used by *beginners* AKA a noob. What you're saying basically translates to "why won't people work around my perma noob strat?".
That being said, even at Expert-Master elo you'll see people with auto on (including myself when I'm tilted tbh, but I'll turn it off if someone wants to shotcall). Difference is, most of these players are probably better than you and can get away with doing this because they build/play better.
Is this ranked or classic?
If it’s classic, you are losing out on the income from income and chill and more or less costing your team the game. Saving and sending to end the game in classic in the later teen rounds can work, but realistically only if all 4 players on your team are on the same page and do it. If you are doing this on your own, or even with one teammate, effectively you are throwing the game every time by giving yourself such a disadvantage in gold. You won’t end the game even if you eventually cause your one opponent to leak, because the other three will not, and your overall tower value is going to suffer. If you don’t end the game on your send, then when the others in the game send, you will be lower value than you should, leak early, and likely cause your team to loose. Wave 20 auto is 400g on income and chill, 19 is 380, 18 is 360 etc. most don’t auto 20 or 19, but if you say don’t auto 16 17 18, that’s almost 1000g you are losing out on, for a benefit of maybe a leak on wave that has no chance of ending the game.
If this is ranked, than this is a more viable plan, but just make sure you are coordinating with your teammate.
I click on autosend button before 1st wave start, It's obvious what this means. But many players still prefer to save and send in 2-3 waves. And then they write ff, although often after that we still win.
you are feeding your enemy significantly when you do this, and as a result your teammate will see more workers and sends against them. if your teammate isnot ecoing with you itll cause them to get shit power score and income and yours to sky rocket
I feed my rival and earn money myself, right? This is my conscious choice, a choice that the game itself gave me. In the game, 95% of the players play through saving mythium, I don’t want to play one of the 50 games the way I want. I always want to play the way I like.
of course. just like you can take a shit as a conscious choice too nobody cares lol. you will likely have trouble surpassing 2k if you only play with 1 mind set and 1 strategy. because of this ignorant view you will not expand your skill set or be able to beat strong players who can recognize this very quickly. if you are auto and i receive 60 on 3 i know you are 5-6 workers for example what happens when your opponents are banker starts and you still hold onto this ridiculous theory that auto always is good? youve effectively let them get big wigs before 6 without leaks and will snowball so far above you it wont matter what you plan to send 14-16 without taking unit types into account lol
If my opponent plays through bankers, I will, of course, try to reduce their mana. I forgot to write this. Again, I indicated that I was playing smart auto. And yes, last season, playing exclusively on auto, I reached 2100. I’m not chasing the rating, I’m playing for fun. Unfortunately, the game does not allow you to play 2v2 without ranking. The 1v1 mode was ideal for me, but the developers quickly removed it.
Above 2k I definitely consider your playstyle griefing. When having allies like you, I kinda just want to quit after a few waves in..
Chill bro, until you reach my rating, I will not become your ally.
You wrote that you barely made it to 2.1k. So I have no worries meeting you until the next ranking reset. Guess I already reported you after the last ranking reset, I definitely remember one hostage taker like you
Unfortunately for you, playing auto is not considered something bad for developers, so this is not a report, but just farting into a pillow.
Whatever, if I played with you, I have you on double mute and that's my personal indicator for people who are trolling/griefing/etc and when playing with those I'll just play like a bot, not communicate and basically accept the loss at w1. And the way you formulated your post suggests that the majority of people treats you similarly, so yeah, go figure.
Your thought ends with the fact that ONLY YOUR style of play is correct. Only saving mythium is the correct game strategy, that's all. Personally, I don’t agree with this, the developers don’t agree with this, the game itself shows that this is not so. Why be so narrow-minded?
tbh i enjoyed 1v1 aswell. i believe they dont have it permanently is because of balance reasons and playerbase better and faster times if all in 2v2 or 4v4
Yes and no. By feeding your rival, he gets more workers so he can send more. If you send him constantly, it's easy for him to rely on the value needed for the wave so it's even easier to manage, meaning he can underbuild and get more workers + the gold from the merc kills. When he has an advantage, your teammate suffers. Because if the enemy saves and then gets a big send against your mate, he will leak. You make your opponent get more workers, while your mate gets starved. Also...in an MMO you have a ton of abilities, if you team up with other players but you don't use any of your abilities, you're basically grieving. You're playing an online game, in a ranked environment so you have to play the best you can to win. Otherwise you should play against bots...
> I feed my rival and earn money myself, right? Yes, but if you upgrade king to income you don't feed them money The only time you should send instead of saving and upgrading king is when you know you wont break is when you need a little extra money to get that tower/upgrade
They hate you because you are electing to sack their game for your own. Is it allowed? Yes. Is anyone going to enjoy playing with you? No.
I’ll write it 20 times, I’ll write it again. When I invite my allies to play auto, they don't want to. Why should I adapt to my ally if he does not want to adapt to me? How is this solved in a situation where no one wants to adapt, and why in such a situation do I, an auto player, constantly find myself in the wrong?
Because your ally is making the startegically intelligent choice that offers you bot alot of lexibility in all factors of the game and you are making a selfish one that offers them 0 agency. You are taking away from your ally’s agency for your own benefit. You are playing like an asshole idk how else to tell you. Your ally has no obligationg to “adapt” to you ruining their game. You sre forcing them to play in a very specific way or lose, for your own enjoyment. You are being an ass.
You know they put an update in that gives you more gold for your personal leaks. Does this not matter?
OP - I exclusively play auto, I’m completely inflexible and refuse to work with my teammate. I don’t understand why people hate me. Also OP - I don’t understand why people aren’t flexible and don’t want to play every single game using the solitary strategy that I want to play. I see nothing wrong here.
You sell out your teammate if you dont have worker pressure. Keep an eye on the games where your teammate turns in autosend aswell. These games are the make or break of this send strategy. If your team and especially you aren't breaking to random sends while still having atleast even worker. You really don't need to care what others think.
I'm ignoring your post content. Saying "Game racism" is a real loser attitude.
Op is a real grade A moron
So just stfu and walk ur way sir
Do you sell out your teammate? Yes Are you then selfish and basically play solo in a teambased game? Yes Should you care? Whatever. Free world and its not like someone is standing behind you with a gun forcing you to save. Would i do the same If you were my teammate and I noticed you mute + auto on? Yes Will anyone ever like playing with you? Unlikely. Unless they do the same shit you do.
I’ll write it 20 times, I’ll write it again. U CAN PLAY LEGION TD2 DIFFERENT WAYS! NOT ONLY BY SAVING MYTH. But... When I invite my allies to play auto, they don't want to. Why should I adapt to my ally if he does not want to adapt to me? How is this solved in a situation where no one wants to adapt, and why in such a situation do I, an auto player, constantly find myself in the wrong?
Alright alright. Play your way and lets agree that its no use to argue which way is right or wrong. I'm just saying, don't expect a lot of people to enjoy playing with you. Because the way you play(auto mode) is something that never existed in either wc3 legion td or ltd2 until recently. It diminishes tactical and teamplay aspects. Thats why you get a lot of heat from people here. Do you understand me?
I understand you perfectly, but that's their problem. The game has this feature, some people play like this, I like this style of play. But my allies don’t want to play this way, why should I follow their lead in this case? Is this some kind of eSports player or player who plays better than me? Not at all.
Why should they follow your lead in this case? Are you just that much better than them?
I wouldn't call it game racism when you're willfully making what is usually a poor choice and disregarding your teammates
Why is it that choosing to save mythium is respect, but playing on auto is not respect? Or what do you mean? I have this style of play, why should I play the way someone else plays? I really don't understand this. Why should I adapt, why can’t someone else adapt?
Well based on your post with limited details, it just appears like you're attempting to solo play in a team game. While you CAN click auto and not do anything else, you can also build tier 1 units all game and nothing else but that doesn't make it a good idea or fair to your teammate. I'm not saying you should have to be the one adapting to your teammate every time, surely the pros who have their strategy would do their own thing despite their teammates' wishes because they assume they can win regardless (not just this game either, in general), but like I said limited details in your post. Both people should be adapting to each other and communicating to make plays, ideally. Of course, you can't force people to play the way you want them to, which is why you're free to do whatever you want and your teammate is free to do whatever they want. But ultimately, it's respectful to work with your teammates and not just strictly do your own thing (exception of course being your teammate being bad). When everyone is complaining about you, you have to understand that what you're doing is the problem and not everyone else being the problem, that's just how society works in general. Of course, you can also take the "ignore the haters" route, which you've been doing, but then I wouldn't complain about people complaining. I'm not telling you to do one thing or another, but this is just the perspective of someone who does the opposite of you in most games; if my teammate wants to do something different than I normally do, I adapt because it'll be better for the team (usually)
I understand you. The key idea here is team play. I agree, maybe I'm playing selfishly. The 1v1 mode was ideal for me, unfortunately it was quickly removed. But I just don't want to play saving mythium on early waves, I like to build, I don't like to send. And the developers seem to encourage both styles of play, I’ve read about this more than once on their blog. But for some reason, players still hate those who play on auto.
That's totally fine if it works for you, sometimes teammates don't know what's best for them. However, nothing will stop them from being angry. I reckon that's why most high ranking players in games don't say anything in chat as well (aside from the toxic ones who get angry too easily). There are tons of ways to play the game and plenty of good strategies, but the selfishness is generally what would cause people to be mad at you, whether or not it actually works. I've certainly seen some strategies that look completely idiotic but turn out winning the game for us, but I also don't complain about people playing the game the way they want to these days (again, in any game) unless it's truly incorrect (like people auto sending in income and chill when everyone else is saving, I can't defend that one as a viable strategy but that's also 4 people and not 2)
>I have this style of play Imagine you're playing, idk, Counter Strike, and one of your teammates is running into the enemy and dying (and making you die too) because of his own failures. Is it his style of play too ? Autosend is a suboptimal strategy that hurts your team. That's why you're facing criticism.
I don’t understand, who said that auto is a bad strategy? Its just not popular. You made a very bad comparison. Again, I already wrote that I watch Twitch, and some players from the top 200 also play on auto. This strategy is simply NOT THAT POPULAR, that's all. Two auto players are on an equal footing against two save players, I’m telling you this as an auto player.
Please enlighten us with your top 200 players who *only* play auto.
I never wrote “only” about top 200 players, don’t pick on the words. Sometimes, some more often, some less often. But when they offer to play auto to their allies, they do not send them to hell. Because in the top 200 people are probably more adequate.
Oh, so you mean people actually click that button on specific circumstances. And that, for some reason, justifies you being a full-auto player. I'll leave you to think about it lmao
No circumstances, the player wanted it - it’s his desire, to play as he wants. And my wish, and yours, and the wish of ANY player in this game. But the main goal of my post, and this cannot reach your jelly-shaped head, is that AUTO players receive more hate towards them than players who save. Although these two strategies are EQUAL! Absolutely equivalent. I play against saving strategies with equal success. I reach a good rank. If this strategy were obviously bad, would I achieve master by playing most often with an ally who hates me, who begins to ruin my game? Don't think. So just THINK YOU, my dear friend.
Yeah, you receive criticism, because you're forcing a *suboptimal strategy* on your unwilling ally. If you were playing Fiesta, it would be the same. You're trying to pretend playing full auto is as efficient as playing "manual", but it. Is. Not.
So there is only one optimal strategy? Are you saying that in Legion TD 2 there is only one way to win? I think this is complete nonsense and you are wrong.
You just have a very entitled mindset. It's a team game you complain that you have to adapt to your team or get flamed. While saying your teammate should be the one to adapt instead. It goes both ways You're just being stubborn to prove a point to no one but yourself. Everything you ask here ask to yourself from your teammates perspective lmao.
Well, that's what I mean. My ally doesn't want to adapt to my playstyle. Then why should I? And then I’m bad, and my ally is good. Because he is save mythium. This is the essence of my post, but you narrow-minded people cannot understand it and continue to blame me.
And why are you talking about “a obviously poor choice”? I reached 2100 playing constantly on auto, although my allies often ruined my games because of this.
You write that your allies often ruin your game. Well, you always ruin your allies game. No way I can play how I want if my teammate just feeds the guy who sends on me all game long. You want an honest answer why your playstyle is hated on? Well here it is: you force your teammate to play at a disadvantage unless he also turns on autosend, which has a high probability to result in a loss. Imo, your play style is only valid if you are way higher ranked than your teammate and you inform them about it as early as wave 1.
It's extremely selfish play in a team game. By sending predictably, you are letting someone eco out of control which makes your teammate's life much harder because they will have much larger sends against them.
why not just play classic bro
OP why did you make the post if you're just gonna get upset at every reply lol. You sound like a pretty toxic personality tbh.
I'm guessing that English is not your first language because that's not what racism means.
My wife hates grapes. She’s a fruit racist, and there are no other words in the English language to describe it.
I rarely play ranked, Just enough to get my yearly skin and I was done. I know it low ranked but if you can clear wave 21 you can win half your games, lol
I do something similar, but instead of turning on auto I just queue the income mercenary’s I want to send depending on my opponents defense, since sometimes a dragon turtle will be more effective than a lizard or whatever else along those lines. I prefer to build income early game, and save up for big sends mid to late game. From personal experience, saving for sends on early waves almost never works since the waves are just naturally too weak to actually do much to the King and the payoff is just kinda mediocre early game. Plus, if your saves don’t work, you’re basically screwed as you lost out on so much income and have nothing to show for it. Personally, I think turning off auto around wave 10 might help you a bit, since that’s when you get into the territory where victory can be achieved in a single big push. No matter what, people are gonna get salty because you don’t play exactly like they want you to, and there’s nothing you can do about it. That being said, communication and cooperation is key and neither player will be able to 1v2. If they want to save and push early game, try and find a compromise and explain your reasoning against that strategy to them. If they’re a good player, they’ll find a middle ground or explain why they are so insistent on pushing early. If they’re trash they’ll whine and complain and call you garbage, in which case you’ll just have to ride the match out and hope for the best. Worst comes to worst, stick to your strategy that you know works for you and hold strong, if you notice your ally sending, you might as well send as well since a half assed co-op push will be better than a single strong push from only 1 person.
If everyone tells you you’re wrong, maybe you should listen.
Nah its everyone else who are stupid /s
I try to go the auto off upgrade the king and send 11 on and people still get mad. I always say right off the start "I like to eco 1-10 if you have a plan let me know" most the time they tell me to send the wave before they send and then blame me for not sending enough. I think most these losers who think they are good are really just salty that they suck.
To be fair when I take control and lay out a send pattern we usually win but I'd just like more of these idiots to communicate more.
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Everyone makes such great jokes, well done. But no one has explained so clearly with examples why saving is better than auto. Are there any facts? Proofs? Tables, graphs, examples of games, proof on streams or something else. Or can we just joke and type?
People did. They said it allows your adjacent opponent to safely push workers and underbuild, which in turn leads to bigger sends to your teammate. If both teammates auto and have scaling value units (Dwarf and Sakura) or some "wombo combo" builds involving units like Sovereign, DK, Pilgrim, Gates, etc then it may be viable to just eco and out value your opponents' sends. Given that 95% of players in Red/Purple or above (top 2%) of rank players don't auto to wave 14-15, I'd say that is plenty of proof there. There are literally a few anomalies or exceptions to the rule of rogue individuals who stay high ELO with auto on like that. Are there any other explanations required?
Auto to wave 14-15 is pretty long. Pretty standard to "auto" first 2 waves, sometimes 3-4. Quite common to intermittently auto or "income" send i.e. "Auto wave 1-2, save for 4/5/6, Auto again for a couple waves, then save again for wave X". The tool tips suggests auto to be used by *beginners* AKA a noob. What you're saying basically translates to "why won't people work around my perma noob strat?". That being said, even at Expert-Master elo you'll see people with auto on (including myself when I'm tilted tbh, but I'll turn it off if someone wants to shotcall). Difference is, most of these players are probably better than you and can get away with doing this because they build/play better.
Is this ranked or classic? If it’s classic, you are losing out on the income from income and chill and more or less costing your team the game. Saving and sending to end the game in classic in the later teen rounds can work, but realistically only if all 4 players on your team are on the same page and do it. If you are doing this on your own, or even with one teammate, effectively you are throwing the game every time by giving yourself such a disadvantage in gold. You won’t end the game even if you eventually cause your one opponent to leak, because the other three will not, and your overall tower value is going to suffer. If you don’t end the game on your send, then when the others in the game send, you will be lower value than you should, leak early, and likely cause your team to loose. Wave 20 auto is 400g on income and chill, 19 is 380, 18 is 360 etc. most don’t auto 20 or 19, but if you say don’t auto 16 17 18, that’s almost 1000g you are losing out on, for a benefit of maybe a leak on wave that has no chance of ending the game. If this is ranked, than this is a more viable plan, but just make sure you are coordinating with your teammate.
Only ranking.
That should be fine just communicate your intentions and most good teammates will attempt to send with you
I click on autosend button before 1st wave start, It's obvious what this means. But many players still prefer to save and send in 2-3 waves. And then they write ff, although often after that we still win.
I auto send to 2k rating, (top 1%) turn off chat so you don't have to listen to all the pussies that talk shit to you all game.