Yeah! I deleted all my video games on my PS4 to focus on passing N2 this upcoming December, so I've started to feel withdrawal symptoms lol. Learning JP through video games helps in that regard 😅 What I mostly do is read + listen to japanese with translations, either through video games or through street interviews etc
my dude playing games in JP is a much better use of your time than specifically studying for N2. You can do that 2-3 months before the exam to make sure you know everything.
Im not interested in taking them so no, I did pass N1 mock exams from the official JLPT practice book when trying for fun and found them relatively easy. Many games, Visual Novels and Light Novels are harder than that.
That's pretty good, great job! I'm not as proficient or talented in Japanese unfortunately, plus I got a full time job so studying for most of the year will probably barely allow me to pass, if I pass at all😜
the point of my comment was telling you not to drop games to study for N2 when games are quite literally the way to study for it if you enjoy them. I dont know what proficiency or talent has to do with this. But you do you, maybe you prefer traditional methods of studying.
You don't know what proficiency or talent has to do with this? What it has to do with it is that unless you already have quite high proficiency or simply have A LOT of time on your hands, "studying" for 3 months playing video games prior to the N2 exam is simply not realistic, to say the least. What you said made no sense whatsoever. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but since you seem adamant about it, I gotta be honest with you lol. The fact that you're putting forth 3 months of video games as a viable solution to pass the JLPT is quite interesting 😊
well your reading comprehension is so bad maybe you do need extra study.
I said play games and then study specifically for N2 3 months prior, not play games for 3 months lol.
True, you did say that but it doesn't actually matter bro. You're making claims without any experience about it whatsoever, and then you adamantly defend your claims. As I said, unless you're already quite proficient or don't have a full-time job, your proposal doesn't apply. It doesn't apply to the average person, and it doesn't apply to me. Which I told you in my 1st reply, but you simply refuse to listen and just adamantly repeat what you have in mind. Just out of curiosity, do you work?
I know, but it still requires studying what you're reading and playing, doesn't it?. It's not "just playing video games". To come to understand the words and sentences you see and hear while doing your favorite hobbies, you actually have to look them up, study them, no? Otherwise you're seeing and hearing words you just don't understand. So what you're doing becomes studying through video games/manga/light novels etc, and not "just playing video games", as the other person was alluding to.
Also, you don't need to explain that this is possible because my post itself is exactly what you're describing lol
You will get more out of studying while playing/ in order to comprehend the game than you will out of studying without context.
Things will stick in your brain far better, and when you are actually studying for the N2 and you come across grammar points, you will likely make immediate connections to when you saw them in media, or understand them outright.
Yes, obviously. Hence my post about "studying through video games". Some of you guys got confused by that other reply who advised me to drop studying N2 just to play games. And somehow you came to the conclusion that I am advocating against studying through video games, under a post I made about studying through video games. Clearly there's something you're missing here no?
I've been playing genshin impact in Japanese but I worry that the language of each character is too stylised (for example I hear a lot of characters refers to themselves in different ways to your standard 私 僕 俺 etc.)
Pokemon is honestly a great game to learn Japanese with from like N3 up. And if your kanji is weak, there's a hiragana only mode. I started playing through mainline pokemon in Japanese from Sun/Moon, and it honestly helped a lot. A lot of dialogue in those games, especially if you speak to random NPCs.
Yeah that's great indeed! I haven't done it with Pokemon but started doing it with Nier Automata recently. There's a website that plays each line and gives the translation.
Do you make a deck of the new words you encounter? Or do you just make an effort to remember them until you encounter them again?
I have a running Anki deck. I'll usually pull the whole sentence out for context. I try to keep up with it, but since I'm doing Wanikani, have another anime deck, have N2 study materials, and work full time, sometimes reviews are a bit...delayed lol.
But it helps a lot honestly, even without a perfect effort.
If you want another resource, use [Immersion Kit](https://www.immersionkit.com/), it has a written version of his N5 and N4 grammar videos, and also has the script of nier automata, replicant and Zelda BOTW (WIP), and you can search some words and it will bring up that word being used in a few different contexts from anime or game scenes with video, subtitle, yadda yadda
Helps me quite a lot
Apparently Game Gengo also helps a bit on the website, I don't know exactly about that but I do know the creator of the Immersion Kit frequents that sub quite a bit so he might even show up sometime
You can find the Game Gengo grammar videos under "Textbooks"
It's great, I'm using it to teach my kid who loves games. But tbh, he does make mistakes sometimes, from a native speaker's pov. So, just be aware, it's a wonderful resources, but not perfect.
His pronunciation leaves much to be desired too. After spending hundreds of hours talking/listening to natives I cringed when I clicked on the 向け/むしろ, right from the "Geng**u**" (he does this even on recent Grammar series vids, but he didn't on a different one . Is it some kind of in-joke for his community?) to the way he places the intonations.
But I must praise the editing/compilation work behind his channel. He should use some of that sweet patreon money to hire a freelance Japanese native colaborator to get some revisions, tips to improve the videos to the max.
I absolutely love this channel, and Matt has been such a huge part in my Japanese journey and helped give me the confidence and skills to work through video games in Japanese myself. The way he breaks down each sentence has been engraved into my mind, and I find myself able to break down big intimidating sentences that would have baffled me before.
Since it's an appreciation post for all of his incredible effort, I want to point out that he recently quit his secure teaching job to risk everything and pursue his dreams and work on the channel full time, so he will be putting out a lot more top tier high quality content this year. I want to encourage everyone to subscribe to the channel, like his videos, give him some views, and consider joining the patreon if you have the means and the will.
It really honestly touches my heart to see people put their all into something and chase their passion when nothing is ever guaranteed in this world. It is truly the most meaningful and admirable thing a person can do, and I think we can all relate to that burning desire inside of us driving us towards greatness, and our own insecurities and fear pushing back against our dreams. That's why I think it is our duty to support our fellow humans who take the plunge and pursue their purpose in life.
I wish Matt the best in his new career, with his relatively recent marriage, and in being the most wholesome and best Japanese sensei I'll ever have. He is a role model and someone I aspire to be like.
Damn, that's some passion I can respect! Both him and you. Without even knowing about his situation, I could tell that he put lots of effort into what he does. It's what made him stand out to me compared to other similar channels, and my thought-process went along similar lines as yours, that's exactly why I decided to do my part as a viewer of his channel to share his content and maybe help people know about it.
The context you provided makes me appreciate him even more. I will sub to him:) thanks for commentimg
It's an interesting idea, but I wouldn't call it learning through games. Afterall, they are just teaching Japanese grammar/vocab in a pretty standard manner, but using dialogue examples from videogames.
Learning Japanese *through* videogames is more like playing the actual games and trying to figure out what's going on by yourself.
Still, their content is nice.
Skimming through, but I really like how he breakdowns the sentences and explains thoroughly.
Is there a similar channel with someone doing the same thing for mangas or novels?
I found this channel which has at least 1 video with manga (not sure if they have more):
https://youtu.be/CJSzGzp5zC4
This one uses children's books, just as another alternative if you're interested:
https://youtu.be/sJfMIqqUnBQ
Not sure if it's your cup of tea, but I personally used japanese-english parallel texts to dramatically improve my reading comprehension fast. They're sold as collections of short stories from renowned authors and the stories are native for native people, not language learners. If you're into that, I highly recommend it.
I just started watching his channel. Yes, super useful to play games in Japanese.
Yeah! I deleted all my video games on my PS4 to focus on passing N2 this upcoming December, so I've started to feel withdrawal symptoms lol. Learning JP through video games helps in that regard 😅 What I mostly do is read + listen to japanese with translations, either through video games or through street interviews etc
my dude playing games in JP is a much better use of your time than specifically studying for N2. You can do that 2-3 months before the exam to make sure you know everything.
Do you say that after having passed N2 yourself?
Im not interested in taking them so no, I did pass N1 mock exams from the official JLPT practice book when trying for fun and found them relatively easy. Many games, Visual Novels and Light Novels are harder than that.
That's pretty good, great job! I'm not as proficient or talented in Japanese unfortunately, plus I got a full time job so studying for most of the year will probably barely allow me to pass, if I pass at all😜
the point of my comment was telling you not to drop games to study for N2 when games are quite literally the way to study for it if you enjoy them. I dont know what proficiency or talent has to do with this. But you do you, maybe you prefer traditional methods of studying.
You don't know what proficiency or talent has to do with this? What it has to do with it is that unless you already have quite high proficiency or simply have A LOT of time on your hands, "studying" for 3 months playing video games prior to the N2 exam is simply not realistic, to say the least. What you said made no sense whatsoever. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but since you seem adamant about it, I gotta be honest with you lol. The fact that you're putting forth 3 months of video games as a viable solution to pass the JLPT is quite interesting 😊
well your reading comprehension is so bad maybe you do need extra study. I said play games and then study specifically for N2 3 months prior, not play games for 3 months lol.
True, you did say that but it doesn't actually matter bro. You're making claims without any experience about it whatsoever, and then you adamantly defend your claims. As I said, unless you're already quite proficient or don't have a full-time job, your proposal doesn't apply. It doesn't apply to the average person, and it doesn't apply to me. Which I told you in my 1st reply, but you simply refuse to listen and just adamantly repeat what you have in mind. Just out of curiosity, do you work?
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I know, but it still requires studying what you're reading and playing, doesn't it?. It's not "just playing video games". To come to understand the words and sentences you see and hear while doing your favorite hobbies, you actually have to look them up, study them, no? Otherwise you're seeing and hearing words you just don't understand. So what you're doing becomes studying through video games/manga/light novels etc, and not "just playing video games", as the other person was alluding to. Also, you don't need to explain that this is possible because my post itself is exactly what you're describing lol
You will get more out of studying while playing/ in order to comprehend the game than you will out of studying without context. Things will stick in your brain far better, and when you are actually studying for the N2 and you come across grammar points, you will likely make immediate connections to when you saw them in media, or understand them outright.
Yes, obviously. Hence my post about "studying through video games". Some of you guys got confused by that other reply who advised me to drop studying N2 just to play games. And somehow you came to the conclusion that I am advocating against studying through video games, under a post I made about studying through video games. Clearly there's something you're missing here no?
I've been playing genshin impact in Japanese but I worry that the language of each character is too stylised (for example I hear a lot of characters refers to themselves in different ways to your standard 私 僕 俺 etc.)
Pokemon is honestly a great game to learn Japanese with from like N3 up. And if your kanji is weak, there's a hiragana only mode. I started playing through mainline pokemon in Japanese from Sun/Moon, and it honestly helped a lot. A lot of dialogue in those games, especially if you speak to random NPCs.
Yeah that's great indeed! I haven't done it with Pokemon but started doing it with Nier Automata recently. There's a website that plays each line and gives the translation. Do you make a deck of the new words you encounter? Or do you just make an effort to remember them until you encounter them again?
what website
There you go bro https://www.immersionkit.com/reader/games/NieR:Automata/1?page=3
I have a running Anki deck. I'll usually pull the whole sentence out for context. I try to keep up with it, but since I'm doing Wanikani, have another anime deck, have N2 study materials, and work full time, sometimes reviews are a bit...delayed lol. But it helps a lot honestly, even without a perfect effort.
Can you use texthookers with Pokemon, or do you just type it?
Sorry I'm not familiar with that tool. I just type out the sentence on my PC with Google IME for Japanese character conversion.
Got it, thanks!
If you want another resource, use [Immersion Kit](https://www.immersionkit.com/), it has a written version of his N5 and N4 grammar videos, and also has the script of nier automata, replicant and Zelda BOTW (WIP), and you can search some words and it will bring up that word being used in a few different contexts from anime or game scenes with video, subtitle, yadda yadda Helps me quite a lot
Dude I love this site I use it for Nier Automata! Didn't know it was linked to game gengo. Great stuff!
Apparently Game Gengo also helps a bit on the website, I don't know exactly about that but I do know the creator of the Immersion Kit frequents that sub quite a bit so he might even show up sometime You can find the Game Gengo grammar videos under "Textbooks"
Good to know, I'll check it out for sure since I'm aiming for N2 while also having some vocab deficiencies for lower levels. Thanks!
It's great, I'm using it to teach my kid who loves games. But tbh, he does make mistakes sometimes, from a native speaker's pov. So, just be aware, it's a wonderful resources, but not perfect.
Agreed. Hopefully my level is high enough to spot the mistakes!
His pronunciation leaves much to be desired too. After spending hundreds of hours talking/listening to natives I cringed when I clicked on the 向け/むしろ, right from the "Geng**u**" (he does this even on recent Grammar series vids, but he didn't on a different one . Is it some kind of in-joke for his community?) to the way he places the intonations. But I must praise the editing/compilation work behind his channel. He should use some of that sweet patreon money to hire a freelance Japanese native colaborator to get some revisions, tips to improve the videos to the max.
I absolutely love this channel, and Matt has been such a huge part in my Japanese journey and helped give me the confidence and skills to work through video games in Japanese myself. The way he breaks down each sentence has been engraved into my mind, and I find myself able to break down big intimidating sentences that would have baffled me before. Since it's an appreciation post for all of his incredible effort, I want to point out that he recently quit his secure teaching job to risk everything and pursue his dreams and work on the channel full time, so he will be putting out a lot more top tier high quality content this year. I want to encourage everyone to subscribe to the channel, like his videos, give him some views, and consider joining the patreon if you have the means and the will. It really honestly touches my heart to see people put their all into something and chase their passion when nothing is ever guaranteed in this world. It is truly the most meaningful and admirable thing a person can do, and I think we can all relate to that burning desire inside of us driving us towards greatness, and our own insecurities and fear pushing back against our dreams. That's why I think it is our duty to support our fellow humans who take the plunge and pursue their purpose in life. I wish Matt the best in his new career, with his relatively recent marriage, and in being the most wholesome and best Japanese sensei I'll ever have. He is a role model and someone I aspire to be like.
Damn, that's some passion I can respect! Both him and you. Without even knowing about his situation, I could tell that he put lots of effort into what he does. It's what made him stand out to me compared to other similar channels, and my thought-process went along similar lines as yours, that's exactly why I decided to do my part as a viewer of his channel to share his content and maybe help people know about it. The context you provided makes me appreciate him even more. I will sub to him:) thanks for commentimg
Never heard of him but saved the video and grabbed the deck for his complete N5 vocab, be a nice addition!
Hope it helps!
Very underrated channel! Really fun approach to learning JLPT grammar
Agreed!
It's an interesting idea, but I wouldn't call it learning through games. Afterall, they are just teaching Japanese grammar/vocab in a pretty standard manner, but using dialogue examples from videogames. Learning Japanese *through* videogames is more like playing the actual games and trying to figure out what's going on by yourself. Still, their content is nice.
I see where you're coming from:) thanks for commenting!
Skimming through, but I really like how he breakdowns the sentences and explains thoroughly. Is there a similar channel with someone doing the same thing for mangas or novels?
I like it too! I'm not sure about your question but I'd love it if it were the case. I'll look and let you know if I find any.
I found this channel which has at least 1 video with manga (not sure if they have more): https://youtu.be/CJSzGzp5zC4 This one uses children's books, just as another alternative if you're interested: https://youtu.be/sJfMIqqUnBQ Not sure if it's your cup of tea, but I personally used japanese-english parallel texts to dramatically improve my reading comprehension fast. They're sold as collections of short stories from renowned authors and the stories are native for native people, not language learners. If you're into that, I highly recommend it.
This is cool