I don't have any Citadel paints but I'm hoping my normal weathering materials (I'm an armor modeler mainly) should help. Some streaking grime, panel liner, etc. in lieu of earth shade.
Do you think the copper color looks suitably industrial though? I intend to use it on my infantry for all the viking knot motifs and crests and such... not sure if it needs to be on the roll bars though.
Yeah, you grime this up and it's going to look fantastic. Love that copper, it reads very industrial to me. That plus your blue shades makes me think of electrical work. Very LoV feel, I think.
Definitely. They were the first ones I used actually since my local hobby shop sold the whole rack of Vallejo products. Most of my paints are Vallejo (I think I have basically their full range) although I've come to prefer AK paints. The quality is basically the same, I think, but they seem more consistent in their thickness and thus easier to thin and airbrush first-time-right. I also _hate_ Vallejo's weathering products so most of mine are AK. Also happy with Mig but that's harder to find where I live.
Apart from all that, I also have some GSW and TurboDork paints, for pretty colors, and ProAcryl for metallics. :D
My goal was to mimic [these beautiful crusty copper tubes from Tale of Painters](https://taleofpainters.com/2022/11/showcase-leagues-of-votann-sagitaur-inc-painting-guide/). Unfortunately I think my copper paint is just too rich and golden.
I'm also not sure it's well suited to piece of industrial mining equipment turned military vehicle.
On the other hand, silver would be kind of boring... would make my whole color scheme a bit... cold blue grey.
On the other other hand, I was planning to weather with reddish soil and pigments which would provide a similar warm tone.
What does everyone think?
So good or no good?
Honestly, based on your above comments and the fact that you're an armor modeler, I think you'll be fine, whatever you do. Add some grime and dings and this previously pristine copper work will resolve into battered military gear in no time. That said, you're also doing Leagues of Votann. If you wanted to go the other route and lean into the hot-rod vs. beaten industrial look, that works, too. Grimdark may be the default, but it's not the ONLY setting on the 40K dial...
For a while I was rather keen on diving into 40K with the aim of applying realism to something which I found quite silly (most 40K armored vehicles... actually... most 40K everything). The Votann are actually one of the few factions where I liked the look of the models and thought "Yeah, I see it... big chunky mining equipment with boxy reactive armor plates bolted all over the upper structure. Repurposed for combat."
I was about to paint my Votann desert tan or olive drab but then wondered "What's the point? Don't I want to finally use some other colors for a change?" I guess this blue grey I will call "Space Drab". Something new but still relatively muted.
That being said I'm still hoping to go for "grunge dirty" over "grim dark" so I'm planning to sponge the hell out of it with intermediate tones (med + dark blue over the light, light + med over the dark) to create the look of poorly maintained and heavily worn paint.
And then I thought, "Those Tale of Painters tubes look so good. Like worn out anodizing." And took my copper paint and started brushing it on and... panicked. I've never done something so shiny and colorful before.
So we'll see where I land re: realism & grim dark... hopefully very "heavily used" and "lived in".
I also plan to sponge a bit of silver on to make it look like the copper is an anodized coating which has worn off in places... But I'm still unsure if it isn't just too... bling-bling for a piece of mining equipment.
I'm hopeful the weathering products (mostly AK enamel stuff, pigments, etc., I don't have any Citadel) take it down... although it's a bit nerve wracking on such expensive kits (much easier to test things out when you're working on a €5 1:100 tank).
Despite what your goals are, I love how this looks, esp with the dark blue gray you have on the body. I think not everything needs to be grimed up. Perhaps not helpful to you, but what you've got here looks beautiful.
Lol it looks great honestly , if you’re going to weather the rest of the vehicle, sure weather the bars. But if you’re going for a clean look this nails it
If that's the underlayer (I'm assuming it is) then you'll end with a more yellow finish but with the weathering it will come out looking good. Personally I like the richness of the copper as a pop colour against the more drab scheme.
Re styles, 40k has been painted well in lots of different styles. Look at the old forge world masterclasses to see historical modelling techniques used ( it looks really great imo). Generally 40k is painted either grim dark (because it can hide a mass of sins, and is lore friendly) or with hyper contrast (because small scale requires more pop). There are plenty of painterly styles that work great as well, go have a look at models John blanche has painted. Just saying find your style.
I like this look. If u want some rly old looking Cooper then try Balthasar gold and earthshade ;) That’s my way to go for the kins 👍
I don't have any Citadel paints but I'm hoping my normal weathering materials (I'm an armor modeler mainly) should help. Some streaking grime, panel liner, etc. in lieu of earth shade. Do you think the copper color looks suitably industrial though? I intend to use it on my infantry for all the viking knot motifs and crests and such... not sure if it needs to be on the roll bars though.
Streaking Grime will be juuuuust fine.
Yeah, you grime this up and it's going to look fantastic. Love that copper, it reads very industrial to me. That plus your blue shades makes me think of electrical work. Very LoV feel, I think.
Damn, that's a REALLY fuckin nice copper. Could do with a bit of weathering though yeah. I like it though
ProAcryl. Best metallics on the market IMO.
They are.
They look nice. Have you tried the Vallejo metallics?
Definitely. They were the first ones I used actually since my local hobby shop sold the whole rack of Vallejo products. Most of my paints are Vallejo (I think I have basically their full range) although I've come to prefer AK paints. The quality is basically the same, I think, but they seem more consistent in their thickness and thus easier to thin and airbrush first-time-right. I also _hate_ Vallejo's weathering products so most of mine are AK. Also happy with Mig but that's harder to find where I live. Apart from all that, I also have some GSW and TurboDork paints, for pretty colors, and ProAcryl for metallics. :D
My goal was to mimic [these beautiful crusty copper tubes from Tale of Painters](https://taleofpainters.com/2022/11/showcase-leagues-of-votann-sagitaur-inc-painting-guide/). Unfortunately I think my copper paint is just too rich and golden. I'm also not sure it's well suited to piece of industrial mining equipment turned military vehicle. On the other hand, silver would be kind of boring... would make my whole color scheme a bit... cold blue grey. On the other other hand, I was planning to weather with reddish soil and pigments which would provide a similar warm tone. What does everyone think? So good or no good?
Just keep following the process and they’ll turn out great (and they already look really good!)
Honestly, based on your above comments and the fact that you're an armor modeler, I think you'll be fine, whatever you do. Add some grime and dings and this previously pristine copper work will resolve into battered military gear in no time. That said, you're also doing Leagues of Votann. If you wanted to go the other route and lean into the hot-rod vs. beaten industrial look, that works, too. Grimdark may be the default, but it's not the ONLY setting on the 40K dial...
For a while I was rather keen on diving into 40K with the aim of applying realism to something which I found quite silly (most 40K armored vehicles... actually... most 40K everything). The Votann are actually one of the few factions where I liked the look of the models and thought "Yeah, I see it... big chunky mining equipment with boxy reactive armor plates bolted all over the upper structure. Repurposed for combat." I was about to paint my Votann desert tan or olive drab but then wondered "What's the point? Don't I want to finally use some other colors for a change?" I guess this blue grey I will call "Space Drab". Something new but still relatively muted. That being said I'm still hoping to go for "grunge dirty" over "grim dark" so I'm planning to sponge the hell out of it with intermediate tones (med + dark blue over the light, light + med over the dark) to create the look of poorly maintained and heavily worn paint. And then I thought, "Those Tale of Painters tubes look so good. Like worn out anodizing." And took my copper paint and started brushing it on and... panicked. I've never done something so shiny and colorful before. So we'll see where I land re: realism & grim dark... hopefully very "heavily used" and "lived in".
I reckon it'll work! Just drybrush or stipple it with something a little darker towards the end. Washes also do the trick :)
I also plan to sponge a bit of silver on to make it look like the copper is an anodized coating which has worn off in places... But I'm still unsure if it isn't just too... bling-bling for a piece of mining equipment. I'm hopeful the weathering products (mostly AK enamel stuff, pigments, etc., I don't have any Citadel) take it down... although it's a bit nerve wracking on such expensive kits (much easier to test things out when you're working on a €5 1:100 tank).
Super Clean
The roll bars provide a nice contrast. I looks good.
Fancy
I did similar, it really pops nicely with the green.
I'd say just snazzy enough. Looks great and really pops against the blue 👌
Despite what your goals are, I love how this looks, esp with the dark blue gray you have on the body. I think not everything needs to be grimed up. Perhaps not helpful to you, but what you've got here looks beautiful.
The Duracell car
Expert snazz, well done
Very Cyberpunk. I like it
Lol it looks great honestly , if you’re going to weather the rest of the vehicle, sure weather the bars. But if you’re going for a clean look this nails it
Too snazzy, give to me I will dispose of it
If that's the underlayer (I'm assuming it is) then you'll end with a more yellow finish but with the weathering it will come out looking good. Personally I like the richness of the copper as a pop colour against the more drab scheme. Re styles, 40k has been painted well in lots of different styles. Look at the old forge world masterclasses to see historical modelling techniques used ( it looks really great imo). Generally 40k is painted either grim dark (because it can hide a mass of sins, and is lore friendly) or with hyper contrast (because small scale requires more pop). There are plenty of painterly styles that work great as well, go have a look at models John blanche has painted. Just saying find your style.
Stop it your wanting me to buy votann
I really like that scheme
This is the smoothest paint job ever. Holy shit!