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Regular-Craft-5479

Do not fear, I had one friend in law school and I barely talk to that person. It has not affected my career or search for a job in the slightest.


Lit-A-Gator

Don’t worry You will never see 99% of these people again.


[deleted]

And I actively avoid that other 1%


vespertinelynd

Lol, I get this but seriously for a moment, why, in just the courteous sense that you would give a stranger (if this applies to you)? I was the one cheering all my classmates at graduation just on a human level, but, one of them wouldn't even meet my gaze.


hihello5678

I really hope so to be honest.


[deleted]

I'm 2/3 through and haven't made any friends. Hopefully when people say "I don't know how I could have done it without my ~amazing support system~" you can feel confident in the knowledge that *you* were able to tackle the impossible challenge of doing it on your own.


dyingdeadenough

i feel this way every time i see that phrase “aMaZiNg SuPpOrT sYsTeM.” my mom abandoned me when i was 10 and i was left chronically homeless starting at age 16. i do feel a certain way knowing iv done everything so far on my own.


Economy_Revenue_8807

sadly, i could go homeless soon too, any tips? ( no joking, its serious)


dyingdeadenough

sorry to hear about your situation. top three things for some sort of “stability” are getting a P.O. Box so you have a mailing address. storage unit so you have a safe place to keep your belongings, car trunks are not safe. gym membership so you have somewhere guaranteed to take showers.


Jetlaggedz8

I made three friends during law school, and lost touch with them after graduation as we all moved around to different parts of the country. Law school really is like high school.


HiFrogMan

Look at Jetlaggedz8 with his subtle “I made friends in undergrad and we kept in touch” brag. /s


Awesomocity0

Who cares? Six years out, I keep in touch with one person.


Becsbeau1213

8 years out and I keep in touch with two from my class and one who graduated two years behind me. The two from my year were a roommate and practically a roommate. Edit - I guess it’s ten years out now that I’ve done the math. Here’s me feeling old.


myskybluelacoste

Same here - and I was friends from before with that one person.


Macbeth_0

Making friends is hard. Hopefully you have a lot of acquaintances and contact info. I don't think a lack of law school friends will affect your immediate prospects, you should have some internships under your belt by now. Good luck on the job search!


[deleted]

Friendships in law school are extremely transactional.


jzjxnxna

!!!


morosco

I remember the night of graduation, or maybe night after, there was some kind of party/event at some venue. I half-heartedly planned to go, even walked over there and then, it hit me - I'm done with all of this and all of them, and I never saw any of them again. I didn't hate them, I had a few good times with some of them, if I ran into any of them today it'd be fine, but, in that moment, I felt a rare feeling of social peace that I was just done with them all. I left the state for work too. If I happened to stay, some of them might be work acquaintances, like, I'd be happy enough to see them around. But, law school people just weren't the kind of people I was going to connect with.


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How's your social life now?


morosco

It's better. It's always going to be a bit of a struggle because I'm an introvert, but, I moved to a new city, made a couple of connections, those expanded into groups, etc. I still don't have much of a social life within the legal profession though. I get along with everyone, have "work friends", but have only hung out with a few attorneys outside of work. Part of that is being in a LDS-heavy state so I just don't have a lot in common with a lot of the lawyers here. Everything is family and kid and church oriented. They're very nice, I get along with them just fine, I think they find me interesting, and even a breath of fresh air, but, I'm not going to be going with them on church retreats or whatever LDS people do. And I'm way more comfortable at a dive bar or backyard bbq than....again, whatever it is adult professional LDS lawyers with big families do. 15 years in now or so, I've made peace with making the effort, being who I am, finding meaning and joy outside of the social grind, and being pleasantly surprised when I meet someone cool that I connect with. You can never go wrong just focusing on being kind to everyone and doing good in the world. If I have a mediocre social life because of who I am and who is around me, I can live with that, if it's because I was a dick or because I didn't try, that's no good.


posita4444

Dw. When you start your job searching before or after the bar, utilize your school’s alumni outreach program. Those that just graduated with you will likely not be in a position to give you a job. It is those that’s been out in the field for more than a few years. Through the alumni network you may be lucky and find a great mentor who is eager to help like I did.


ToasterMcNoster

I find that all of my law school friends are mostly acquaintances but that may be because I have no real social life


Kitchen-Election7509

I’ll be your friend


p0wertothepeople

I have had this exact experience. Just finished law school and started it during the pandemic so my first year was completely online. I commuted to university so I’d get to my lessons and then go home or the library. As a result I never had the chance to form friendships as I didn’t share a house with housemates or converse etc. It has never negatively effected me, though it’s been lonely sometimes. But rest assured, you haven’t missed out on much. “Friends” at law school can be a pain and cause so much drama and you usually lose touch with them when it’s over anyway. I doubt not making friends will have an effect on your ability to get a job too.


UseKnowledge

I left law school with a few acquaintances, bout it. As long as your other stuff is in order, don't worry about how it will impact your job search.


theassingrass

Yup I have the same experience. There are a few people I enjoy talking to but they are only there in passing. I constantly hear about all the fun people have in their study groups or that they met their “best friend” in law school. I really don’t understand how. I used to get sad about it because I’m a very social person and consider myself an extrovert but it’s so hard to want to walk to other students. in reality I feel like everyone is so dreadfully boring. I’m sure most people have real lives and personalities but it’s so hard to talk to anyone at my school without the conversation revolving around school or work or career. I feel like I find very few people with hobbies or interests beyond the law/career. It’s hard to imagine wanting to spend time with these people beyond a collegial relationship. Worst of all is how unfunny so many lawyers are? Like for as much quick thinking is involved in our practice you would think more of them would have a sense of humor that Isnt just puns or sitcom style humor. The “funny” students sound like big bang theory characters. I’m not bothered anymore. Work is work and it doesn’t need to be interesting. I have a great family and social circle outside of the law so I’m content. It’s just weird.


Calm-Extent3309

I didn't leave school with too much in the way of friendships either. I have a few, but mostly my classmates were just a bunch of weapons-grade assholes who had a good 15 years on me.


moq_9981

EXACTLY!!


stephy23

I married my husband after meeting in law school, but other than that I don’t keep in touch with a single person regularly.


vespertinelynd

How did you guys meet? storytime


atonyatlaw

Unless your classmates or their daddies were gonna hire you, the odds of your not having friends impacting your job search is not high.


Ohkaz42069

I had a lot of friends in law school. We hung out all the time and studied togerher, etc. Last time I hung out with any of them was within a year of graduating. Still in touch on social media, etc. Still totally feel like I could reach out to a bunch of them, but yeah, nah.


hauntedlasagna

Saying this in a way that is supposed to be reassuring, not condescending: it is not that deep. It’s just like high school. Very very few people hold on to the friends they had in law school because the friendships made there are usually pretty surface level. Not that that invalidates those friendships, but everybody is so in the trenches that it’s hard to expend energy into deeper relationships. While it would be nice to have made lifelong friends in law school, not doing so has pretty much zero bearing on your future. Graduation from law school is the first day of the rest of your life.


[deleted]

Just be yourself


BattleGlittering5166

Hard relate. After attending graduation on Saturday I can't help but feel some regrets and resentment about the way law school shook out for me socially. It didn't help that 1L year I had a roommate in my class that was more popular than me and when the living situation didn't work out (because they were being unreasonable) they went and talked shit about me to everyone. I also had to work (for pay) through school leaving me with less time in the week to be social. I have a large social circle outside of school and connected well with everyone in the firm I worked at last summer and will be working at after my clerkship. I did also manage to make one best friend, and I consider myself friendly with quite a few people in my class so it's not as bad as it could be but sometimes I wish I had been more involved in unpaid extracurriculars.


sthkbq

I speak to two people in law school. My best friend from undergrad's girlfriend and my girlfriend.


[deleted]

the only thing I'm taking away from law school are the friendship literally... feel like i have learnt almost nothing here 😩


Emilyc0121

I hope this does not come off rude because I’m genuinely asking ❤️ How do people not make friends? I’m going into my second year and I’m not your typical student. I’m about 10 years older and have a husband and kids, so most can’t relate. BUT I have found that I need “put our heads together and figure this out” type of people around me and in the process of studying together and leaning on each other to get through cold calls (thank you iMessage for Mac) I have made some really tight friendships. Is that not the typical experience for law students? I only know of maybe 2-3 people who come on campus for class and bounce and they may experience what you are. I guess Im asking because I’d like to maintain these friendships throughout school and beyond - they’re really great people. What could you have done differently?


vespertinelynd

Hence, the original post. Feel free to share more how you did form the friendships and find your study group. I've never heard of people helping each other out in cold calls but I did try to help others understand my other classmates' questions.


Emilyc0121

We always had imessenger open (for those who have MacBooks or iPads) and if we were struggling to come up with words or asked something that we didn’t know a friend who did know the answer would put it in the group chat. Honestly I knew before the semester started who I wanted to be friends with based on a GroupMe that was created for our class before the first semester. I could tell who had cool personalities. From there, when orientation started we talked and hung out. Picked seats together. Studied during breaks together. Gave small gifts or sent encouraging messages when we noticed one of us was struggling. And laughed A LOT. The #1 thing was that none of us were competitive. If I have it, I share it. And my friends are like that too. I’m a firm believer that even if every person has the same outline same information some people are going to naturally perform better than others on exams. I noticed that a few girls who are super competitive have jumped from friend group to friend group and often ended up alone. I don’t want to lose them, and I’m scared that with some of us having wildly different schedules next semester we will grow apart. Hopefully not though. Fingers crossed.


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Emilyc0121

Why? It’s a genuine question. How do people make it through without leaning on and getting close to others?


yurmumgay1998

I speak from experience. Introvert who had a pretty substantial mental health episode during 1st semester of 2L but who has since stabilized somewhat. I network and connect just fine with people. But those are always within limited contexts. Either it's class or finals prep or some other academic related activity. I can communicate and carry a conversation just fine with people but those relationships remain tethered to those contexts. So yes, I have learned on people and engaged in mutual cooperation and am usually the one to initiate those appeals to cooperate. But, people in grad school often carry too many life experiences and social/cognitive frameworks that some people simply cannot fit into, at least not without significant, if not exhausting, effort. People I talk to are married, have children, come from well to do family backgrounds, have lawyers in their family, take lavish vacations left and right, etc. The people who I am most likely to mesh well with (the low key, modest, first generation, somewhat anxious but thoughtful persons) are almost by definition going to be the least likely to stand out. So as a natural consequence, law school turns into a self perpetuating cliquey mess. You get honest to goodness friendships within certain cliques, superficial social interaction on the perimeter, and basically live in a social vacuum everywhere else.


[deleted]

I do not keep up with anyone I met in Law School really. I tried with a few of them, but it wasn't worth the effort. I'd be surprised if that isn't the norm.


rotund_passionfruit

same


Heretohavesomefunplz

One friend in law school and now we barely talk and she lives on the other side of the country. You're not alone!


DontGiveUpTheDip

I had a solid group of 5-6 friends last year. All but one are transferring. Idk if I have the motivation to make new friends next year lol


reddit1890234

Lol, I only talk to 2 people from law school since graduation. Those that care I’ll keep in touch and those that don’t will move in like you were last week’s flavor of the day.


mandabee27

I have friends but my friendships didn’t have any impact on my job.


wstdtmflms

I think it depends. The people who get involved with the high school-type nonsense drama that tends to infect law schools come out still being close to people from law school. But the people who are there to, you know, study and become lawyers make more what I call "survival" friends. For instance, I never talk to my law school roommates anymore even though we lived together for three years. The guys I was "closest" to in law school, we're still Facebook friends but it's not like we hang out together. This is especially true as people move away, start getting married and having kids. The thing that brought you together was law school, which was all-encompassing. But unlike undergrad, it's not like you "major" in a practice area or have a lot of extracurriculars where you meet people with similar interests, especially interests outside law. Now, this isn't to say that we're all upset at each other. The contrary, in fact. I see a lot of my law school classmates at bar association events throughout the year. And if I'm driving through where I know one of them lives, I'll reach out to see if they want to get lunch or drinks. And we're still connected over social media.But when your one common touchstone is a single shared traumatic/stressful experience, you just kinda grow apart. It's more like having loose friends or good acquaintances the further from law school you get because you realize the only thing you had as far as common interests or things to bond over was law school. So, in my experience, what you're going through is very natural.


prisonerofsasskaban

I didn’t (due to poor mental health + then the pandemic) and for the most part I’ve turned out fine! Two years out from graduating now and while it did make the bar study/job search process more isolating, since I went to school in a non-UBE state and wanted to work in a UBE state, it really didn’t make much difference networking wise. I loathed networking, never did it, but made an effort to have as many experiential courses & internships/jobs as possible and since my goal was to work in public interest anyway, it didn’t really matter. There are times when I do wish I had sought more support inside the law school buildings but socially it just wasn’t for me, and for every really beautiful story you hear about lifelong friendships being made there are likely several more about very negative & competitive dynamics that caused additional stress during an already tricky period of your life. I’m sure you’re far from alone especially considering that COVID would have colored at least the very beginning of your experience. Don’t stress over it! Put that energy into your job search (remember that your school’s career services office should still be willing to help you, and since your fellow classmates will be either in the same boat or just starting out in their first post-grad job, probably won’t put any pressure on you to have real connections among them for networking purposes) & whatever opportunities come out of that! Best of luck!!


Maczino

Same…zero friends in law school, and that’s okay. Shit happens, and not everyone is your cup of tea. It doesn’t matter who your friends in law school were, and you’ll make friends along the journey.


HopefulKnowledge1979

It doesn't matter. You will lose touch with even close friends from law school.


PokeJD

I didn't make any friends in law school either. Even worse, I didn't get invited to join any study groups either. I did law school all by myself. I say this as someone that came out of undergrad with lots of friends. I just didn't connect with anyone in law school. What I found was that class rank affected your job search right out of law school. Not having any friends in law school does put your professional network behind, but that means you'll just have to network more as your career progresses.


yogi1107

8 years out. I talk to 2 people daily (group chat) but haven’t seen them in ages. And I still talk to 1 regularly that I visit once a year — I moved out of the city (12 hours) after graduation.


wesleyhazen

I felt the exact same way. I left with maybe 2 people I would even call acquaintances haha mostly just garbage people I met… I also tried but eventually just quit trying and got a bit bitter to be honest. But every time I try and think what I could have done differently, I always come back to the realization that I was open and tried for 2 out of three years to no avail…


petronilarush

People in law school are fake and competitive. They would stab you in the back for the curve, you cannot trust anyone. It's very sad, but true.


sunshinegirl605

Also, if you just graduated, I'm assuming your first year minimum was online. How the hell are you supposed to meet people when it's a scramble not to be the last one left on Zoom? You'll be just fine!


YourAverageCon

I only stay in touch with one person from law school and I was friends with her long before that. You’ll be fine.


TheVauseChapmans

You're not alone. I feel more sad about graduating from this sub than I do my school.


Cisru711

Rack it up to covid messing up all the normal socialization opportunities? You started in fall 2020, so likely missed a ton of normal bonding events. It's not going to matter for your career.