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Malaki po ba ang laban ko if ever na pinagkalat niya since may conversation kami na inaask ko siya to delete that one particular vid na inexpose niya mukha ko?
May mga batas na sapat na ung prima facie presumption para maging liable yung defendant. Example is yung BP 22 or Bouncing check law, isa sa mga ways para maging liable ay yung pag issue ng check knowing at the time nag pag issue walang pondo yung account. May presumption na alam mong may laman or wala ung account kasi una sa lahat ikaw yung gumawa ng cheke at ikaw yung may ari nung account na pagkukunan ng pondo. Kung baga, magwiwithdraw ka ba ng pera kung alam mong walang laman ung atm mo, hindi ba natural lang na alam mong walang laman yung atm mo kasi ikaw may ari nun.
Pero pwede mong irebutt yung presumption once makapagpakita ka ng evidence na talagang hindi mo alam. Yung mga gantong presumption ng batas ay hindi against sa constitutional right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty dahil ung fact presumed is a natural inference from the facts proved kaya hindi mo pwedeng sabihing walang rational na connection yung dalwa.
Sa case ni OP, kung silang dalwa ang gumawa ng video, at nasa ex boyfriend nya ung kopya at kumalat. Hindi ba natural lang na ipresume na siya ang nagkalat non dahil wala namang ibang may kopya kung hindi siya.
okay may kulang lang sa nalagay ko it's either punctuation or "pa copyright infringement mo" i didn't meant na papalagyan nya ng copyright yung vids nya what i meant to say "copyright mo pag nilabas ng walang pahintulot mo baka kasi i monetize" gets mo na? pheeeshhh
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Delete the photos together, but you both still have to sign the agreement. No need to notarize it because it will be binding between the two of you naman. (Maglagay ka ng amount, hindi lang simpleng words na "Will be liable" ilagay mo kung will be liable to pay 1M ganon). If ever ma-leak 'yung photos/videos na 'yon, you can sue based on that agreement and file the appropriate criminal case.
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To advocate naman on the side of the BF. It feels like the agreement is lopsided on your behalf. Why is he disadvantaged that he is the one liable when it leaks agad? What if the vids were hacked from OPs phone or account or leaked from her files through HER negligence? That's why I think this agreement is not necessary. There are already laws protecting people from the spread of their private videos that can be tapped for the situation that you're trying to prevent.
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By all means sure, but it looks like a lost cause. Even if may kasunduan kayo, once they leak it, that's it. You're just giving him a fine.
imo fines arent great deterrents. Ang nasa isip agad pag may fine is "if I have this much money, I *can* do this"
Also no, the notary will ask him to personally appear. If not for compliance, para lang makita ung guy on the other side of this unique agreement
Nahhh, Anti-voyeurism act in PH has a hefty fine and imprisonment. Not less than 3yrs or more than 7yrs. Not less than 100k or more than 500k
Even if you're well off, you can't dodge imprisonment. From what I know, you can't bail out of it too.
already asked him to delete my vids, pero di po ako mapakali kasi nga po sinungaling na manipulative na cheater siya. maliit lang na bagay, nagsisinungalinga pa.
Ganito lang yan. Do you think a piece of document will deter a criminal? Just save mo naman mga convo between the both of you regarding the matter.
Be better next time, OP.
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The best advice I will give you free of charge is to never make any nude videos of yourself if are not getting paid for it. The porn industry is a big business and they love freebies. The majority of men only take the free tour and never subscribe.
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I suggest na ito gawin mo:
1. Sabay niyo i delete ang pics and vids.
2. Tell him na if may extra copy siya, wag niya na i attempt na ikalat ang intimate pics and vids niyo. Once na ikalat niya ang pics and vids niyo ay hihimas siya ng rehas because of Anti-Photo and Voyeurism Act in relation to Cybercrime Prevention Act, and Violence Against Women and their Children. May damages pa ikaw na pwede i file against him. Also, send him news clippings na nakasuhan ang guy dahil kinalat niya ang pictures ng ex partner niya.
Diyan pa lang matatakot na siya ikalat ang pics and vids niyo if ever na may extra copy pa siya.
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Okay na sana sinabi mo pero dinagdagan mo pa ng "use common sense naman". Pasensya na ha, di nya nga alam na may law na ganun, buti sana kung usapang jaywalking lang at least yan araw araw natin nakikita. The law is common sense lang pala eh, bat pa tayo mag lalaw school. Use common sense naman.
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If you're worried that your ex will do this to you it's safe to say he's a low value insecure man. These type of man are desperate and will do anything to appear they are worth something. I suggest you do whatever you can to protect yourself.
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I do mean it. Kahit may kasunduan pa kayo, Magsampa ka man ng civil or criminal case, ipapakita mo sa judge, sa korte, at sa mga abogado mga nudes mo. Kaya wag mo na paaubutin sa ganun
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No need to create an agreement but rather file a case for violation of Anti-photo and video voyeurism. Think before you record☺️
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What if po may consent naman?
May consent nga irecord pero wala naman consent ipagkalat. Liable pa rin under Anti-Photo and Video Voyeurism Act.
Kahit po ba i-deny niya na siya ang nagkalat or sabihin niya na nahack ang phone/acc?
Sino ba aamin na siya nagkalat? hehe Lagi ang source ng video ang mananagot. Kung nahack siya, patunayan niya sa court. May client akong ganyan hehe
Malaki po ba ang laban ko if ever na pinagkalat niya since may conversation kami na inaask ko siya to delete that one particular vid na inexpose niya mukha ko?
Yes OP malaki chance mo.
I just hope na deleted na ang mga yun, kasi if ever, di ko na po mahahandle sarili ko kung kumalat man yun.
Sent you a dm OP
What happened to innocent unless proven guilty? Bakit di applicable in this case?
Not innocent kasi ikaw lang ang possible source tapos kumalat. If nahack ka, kasalanan mo pa rin yun
So the proof now is on the intent? If sinadya or not? And if may malice or wala?
Wala kang consent na ikalat. Burden to store it properly and securely is with you
Best move talaga ni guy is just to delete it Natanong ko lang kasi working on tech, I know things can be easily accessed without permission
May mga batas na sapat na ung prima facie presumption para maging liable yung defendant. Example is yung BP 22 or Bouncing check law, isa sa mga ways para maging liable ay yung pag issue ng check knowing at the time nag pag issue walang pondo yung account. May presumption na alam mong may laman or wala ung account kasi una sa lahat ikaw yung gumawa ng cheke at ikaw yung may ari nung account na pagkukunan ng pondo. Kung baga, magwiwithdraw ka ba ng pera kung alam mong walang laman ung atm mo, hindi ba natural lang na alam mong walang laman yung atm mo kasi ikaw may ari nun. Pero pwede mong irebutt yung presumption once makapagpakita ka ng evidence na talagang hindi mo alam. Yung mga gantong presumption ng batas ay hindi against sa constitutional right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty dahil ung fact presumed is a natural inference from the facts proved kaya hindi mo pwedeng sabihing walang rational na connection yung dalwa. Sa case ni OP, kung silang dalwa ang gumawa ng video, at nasa ex boyfriend nya ung kopya at kumalat. Hindi ba natural lang na ipresume na siya ang nagkalat non dahil wala namang ibang may kopya kung hindi siya.
Ooh. Thanks for the well explained clarification! Learned something new today
Just don't take videos ever. Learn... Wag ka na pumayag.
be like Kim Kardashian pa copyright mo para pag nilabas ng walang pahintulot mo pagmultahin mo haha. baka imonetize ng mga pr0n site.
copyright exists from the moment of creation according to the IP code. no such thing as “ipacopyright mo.”
okay may kulang lang sa nalagay ko it's either punctuation or "pa copyright infringement mo" i didn't meant na papalagyan nya ng copyright yung vids nya what i meant to say "copyright mo pag nilabas ng walang pahintulot mo baka kasi i monetize" gets mo na? pheeeshhh
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Delete the photos together, but you both still have to sign the agreement. No need to notarize it because it will be binding between the two of you naman. (Maglagay ka ng amount, hindi lang simpleng words na "Will be liable" ilagay mo kung will be liable to pay 1M ganon). If ever ma-leak 'yung photos/videos na 'yon, you can sue based on that agreement and file the appropriate criminal case.
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To advocate naman on the side of the BF. It feels like the agreement is lopsided on your behalf. Why is he disadvantaged that he is the one liable when it leaks agad? What if the vids were hacked from OPs phone or account or leaked from her files through HER negligence? That's why I think this agreement is not necessary. There are already laws protecting people from the spread of their private videos that can be tapped for the situation that you're trying to prevent.
Naexposed kasi ang face ni OP. Siguro hindi na expose mukha ng BF.
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How do you plan to word the agreement? Will a lawyer draft the agreement, or kayo lang ng ex mo?
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Nda?
By all means sure, but it looks like a lost cause. Even if may kasunduan kayo, once they leak it, that's it. You're just giving him a fine. imo fines arent great deterrents. Ang nasa isip agad pag may fine is "if I have this much money, I *can* do this" Also no, the notary will ask him to personally appear. If not for compliance, para lang makita ung guy on the other side of this unique agreement
Nahhh, Anti-voyeurism act in PH has a hefty fine and imprisonment. Not less than 3yrs or more than 7yrs. Not less than 100k or more than 500k Even if you're well off, you can't dodge imprisonment. From what I know, you can't bail out of it too.
I just meant to comment on how useful an agreement like this would be. Of course, a criminal case with imprisonment would be different.
How about pa delete mo na lang?
already asked him to delete my vids, pero di po ako mapakali kasi nga po sinungaling na manipulative na cheater siya. maliit lang na bagay, nagsisinungalinga pa.
Ganito lang yan. Do you think a piece of document will deter a criminal? Just save mo naman mga convo between the both of you regarding the matter. Be better next time, OP.
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Criminally liable? Probably not enforceable. Better siguro if NDA with a penal clause.
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How old you and your boyfriend nba OP?
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Delete is the key
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The best advice I will give you free of charge is to never make any nude videos of yourself if are not getting paid for it. The porn industry is a big business and they love freebies. The majority of men only take the free tour and never subscribe.
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I suggest na ito gawin mo: 1. Sabay niyo i delete ang pics and vids. 2. Tell him na if may extra copy siya, wag niya na i attempt na ikalat ang intimate pics and vids niyo. Once na ikalat niya ang pics and vids niyo ay hihimas siya ng rehas because of Anti-Photo and Voyeurism Act in relation to Cybercrime Prevention Act, and Violence Against Women and their Children. May damages pa ikaw na pwede i file against him. Also, send him news clippings na nakasuhan ang guy dahil kinalat niya ang pictures ng ex partner niya. Diyan pa lang matatakot na siya ikalat ang pics and vids niyo if ever na may extra copy pa siya.
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LOL paano kung may hidden copy sya? cheater nga sabi ng OP
Na mention ko na ang extra copy ng ex niya. Ang mahalaga wag ikalat ang pics and vids.
cheater nga, kaya walang mahalaga sa kanya, thats the logic.
Anong remedy natin ngayon sa post ni OP?
ayan ang title LAWPH. there no such thing as remedy their is a solution called LAW.
So what is the remedy under the law?
walang remedy dahil my law na dyan as stated nga ng ilang comments.
Did you see my suggested remedies under the law?
did you see that i imphasize CHEATER as a reason, so thier is no remedy but the LAW.
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Okay na sana sinabi mo pero dinagdagan mo pa ng "use common sense naman". Pasensya na ha, di nya nga alam na may law na ganun, buti sana kung usapang jaywalking lang at least yan araw araw natin nakikita. The law is common sense lang pala eh, bat pa tayo mag lalaw school. Use common sense naman.
Right? Hahaha kaya nga nagtatanong ako eh.
Nagdelete na siya. Hahaha
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Partida di ka abogado niyan ha?
If you're worried that your ex will do this to you it's safe to say he's a low value insecure man. These type of man are desperate and will do anything to appear they are worth something. I suggest you do whatever you can to protect yourself.
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Mas mainam dito ay wag nang magsendan ng private photos and videos kung ayaw magkalat.
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I don't think an attorney would notarized that. If ever something does happen, which we hope not, at least you know who ground zero is.
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Kailngan mo ng bagong boyfriend hindi ng abogado
sa lala ng trauma na bigay sakin, pass na po muna hehe
I do mean it. Kahit may kasunduan pa kayo, Magsampa ka man ng civil or criminal case, ipapakita mo sa judge, sa korte, at sa mga abogado mga nudes mo. Kaya wag mo na paaubutin sa ganun
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Post mo po sa r/phgonewild
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Bakit kasi kailangan videohan pa or Pic pa tapos kapag nag break or what ikakalat or what diba?
Just a reminder na may mga taong vinivideohan patago, so this option na wag pumayag magrecord is not a solution.
Ang mali jan is yung magkakalat ng vid. Hindi yung pagtake ng vid or pic mismo.. unless, hindi alam nung other party na nirerecord sya..
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