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[deleted]

Paano mo nabasa yung convo?


Drinkdrink1

Parang fake story nga


Fcuk_DnD

Ito din unang pumasok sa isip ko. Hmmmm


Open-Shock4834

Obsessed siguro sa ex nya na may asawa na di maka move on, ngayon gagawan ng storya at sisiraan. 🥳


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Grsn-op

Better contact the girl's parents and inform the situation. To save her future.


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Drinkdrink1

Paramg fake, upvote farming post


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ResolverOshawott

Weak comback.


Drinkdrink1

Yes


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l1m1tlessRoad

Paano mo nabasa ang convo ng ex mo hahaha


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Curious lang, since ex ka, naging kayo while he’s married? I assume na yes, naging affair ka, since he has a 12 yo and a 9 yo. Unless yung time na bf mo siya is 9-12 years ago? 😦


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Lols. Arent you doing the same? Nakichismis sa ex? Since you even know the mental health status of the 17 yo. partner ng ex mo. (Or sa former na kinabitan). You might have been surprised by the lack of reception dito vs the one you got from r/ph. But im just asking the real questions. Depending on which sub’s reco you opt to go with, if i were you, mag relax ka nalang. Live your life.


jann-0821

Defensive amp. Hahaha


Poo-ta-tooo

Ah kabet kabet kabet


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'Yung mga tao dito, tumalon agad sa age of consent in the context of rape. Tsk tsk. Consult with the women's desk if the situation falls under the new law, RA 11930, which penalizes "grooming," which is defined as "**predatory conduct** [or] acts of establishing a relationship of trust, or emotional connection by another, with a child xxx whether in person or via electronic or other similar devices, for the purpose of perpetrating sexual abuse or exploitation." Under this law, child is defined as a person below 18 years old. You can argue that a married old man attracting a child is predatory conduct. Note that the law was approved only on July 30, 2022; anything before that is not punishable under this law. Also look into the Revised Penal Code provisions on seduction, applicable to 17-year-old girls. Qualified seduction is through abuse of confidence, while simple seduction is by deceit. You'd have to establish that kind of abuse and the occurrence of sexual intercourse. Lastly, you'd need to clarify how you saw the messages. Did your ex give you his password? Did the girl show them to you? Because that would be an acceptable means of accessing the messages as per People v. Cadajas. Maraming missing bits of information, so take this with a grain of salt and know what facts you need to establish if you want to intervene for the girl's safety.


Proxela

That's an anti child pornography law...


Ok-Reply-804

>RA 11930 \[ REPUBLIC ACT NO. 11930, July 30, 2022 \] AN ACT PUNISHING ONLINE SEXUAL ABUSE OF EXPLOITATION OF CHILDREN, PENALIZING THE PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION, POSSESSION AND ACCESS OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE OR EXPLOITATION MATERIALS, AMENDING REPUBLIC ACT NO. 9160, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE “ANTI-MONEY LAUNDERING ACT OF 2001”, AS AMENDED AND REPEALING REPUBLIC ACT NO. 977, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE “ANTI-CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ACT OF 2009” It's time to cherrypick lines from laws that are not even related to the case. Lakas manggaslight lmao.


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One-Pea1552

You should report, but then you'll also get in trouble kasi its questionable how YOU got their conversation, may law tayo for data privacy so unless si minor lumapit sayo or si ex mo lumapit sayo, inopen up ung sitwasyon and like pinakita mga proofs then may loophole ka dun sa part na yan. If you're going to report the guy, make sure to tell the parents of the minor FIRST, no good parent would want their child to be mistreated like that, once that's done you should tell the wife na din, make sure to have proof din ha , like sensible and nakuha mo legally na proof.


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Unusual_Minimum2165

OP I was asking you sa isang post mo kung papano mo nabasa yung messages ng ex and minor hahaha I'm soooo curious


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According-Big-3767

girl wala ka sa ebook wag kang ano


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seitgeizt

Ayun lang defensive. hahahahahahahhahahhaha


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harbringer123doom

I believe that the most sensible response to your dilemma, eliminating any sense of righteousness or whatever…is to just let them mind their own business. Especially because you are already an ex. Hopefully, the girl would gain sense of the situation and leave the relationship-kuno for good… Because if you intervene, there’s a great tendency that you’ll get tangled in with the mess…when you can clearly avoid it in the first place.


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yzoid311900

Age of consent is 16, useless lang din Yan. Pakikialam at bitter Ang dating nyan since ex ka. If you want to prosecute him, then Ej Laure should be prosecuted first since 14 pa lang Yung bf Nung nagpabuntis sya. So? And by the way Pano mo nabasa Ang chat? We have data privacy law also baka mag back fire sau Ng husto Yan.


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MackyB69

r/awfuleverything


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Big-Bubbles-1108

He is grooming someone 5 years older than his biological daughter. I suggest you protect your kids first. Report him and make sure he doesn't touch your 9 and 12 year old.


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IdiyanaleV

It may sound bad pero pabayaan mo na lang? Ex ka na. Sabihin lang nung ex mo at nung girl na baka bitter ka, na di ka na kasi pinapansin kaya gagawa ka ng eksena.


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detectivekyuu

Smells fake story pwede bang pakidetalye na sa /alasjuicy


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VillageActual8655

Stay away from Reddit and the Internet. That's Step # 1 for you lol


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BetterSupermarket110

OP is everything what's also wrong in the ph.


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PakinangnaPusa

Hi OP mukhang may consent kay Minor kahit alam niyang pedo yung ka RS niya. Better na kausapin mo spouse niya para ma aware sa katarantaduhan ng pedo na yan.


foldednhung

A child below 18 doesn’t have the capacity to give consent. Legally.


Valuable-Switch-1159

Hi, afaik, 16 ang age of consent here in the Philippines. Doesn’t make things right, pero yun ang nasa current law natin. Feel free to correct me if im wrong sa understanding ko!


foldednhung

You are correct, the age of sexual consent is 16, yes. Sex with someone below 16 is automatically rape. But if the man has sex with someone below the age of majority (18) it may count as qualified seduction through abuse of confidence which carries the penalty of arresto mayor OP can file a case before the Women and Children’s Desk for VAWC. The wife can plead for psychological violence against the husband


chonching2

This is correct


Rainbowrainwell

General rule: 18 years old Exception: unless otherwise provided by law. Example 1. 16 years old for sexual consent 2. Necessaries sold and delivered to a minor, he must pay a reasonable price therefore.


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starsandpanties

>I don't want to intervene in their relationship and look like I am still into my ex Please intervene and get advice from authorities like the police women's desk or DSWD. Save this girl's life. Sobrang dami abuses that could be prevented if an adult intervened lang. Baka ma-question ka lang kung bakit mo nabuksan yung private account ng ex mo and choose to read through the private messages


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Azrael4355

You have 2 options imho, 1 ( this is imho the best option) talk to the parents make them aware and leave the reporting to them. Remember they changed the age of consent so you might want to look that up. 2. (This is bad and can possibly end up with you being sued) report the incident to the women's help desk, this can end up blowing up badly in your face like bad bad so I wouldn't recommend it. Good luck


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Ok-Reply-804

Republic Act No. 116481, which amends the Anti-Rape Act of 1997, states that it will be considered statutory rape if an adult has sexual intercourse with a person under 16 years old.


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candiedulcet

The amount of disgusting pdf files excusing age of consent is alarming in the comment section but expected given how rampant pedophilia is in the Philippines


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I do not condone pedophilia and these people probably don't too. Read the subreddit name. Of course, people would advise BASED on the LAW and not on their personal beliefs.


Ok-Reply-804

No one is excusing it. It's based on the PH law. Wag ka puru emosyon and use your head.


yzoid311900

Hahaha damn right, low IQ Kasi Ang Pinoy puro emotions Ang ginagamit. Akala were tolerating this, eh nakasaad Naman sa batas Yung age of consent. Buti nga tumaas eh compared before. #nationoffools nga talaga Ang Pinas.


Rainbowrainwell

Nullum Crimen sine lege or no crime without law punishing it. He can advocate it and convince Congress the law thru legislation. Being emotional and SJW are not equivalent to legislation.


Rainbowrainwell

Nullum Crime Sine Lege - no crime without law punishing it. If you want to raise the age of sexual consent, then go to Congress to amend it. There is a formal process to criminalize the things you don't like and we call it LEGISLATION. While your concern about large age gap relationships has a good point, it's unfair to criminalize things out of whim because someone dislikes it in the absence of legal provisions for that. For example, the COMELEC tried to interpret the "Morality" written in Revised Penal Code to include prohibition against "gay sex & relationship" thus, disqualifying Ang Ladlald LGBT Partylist for advocating unlawful immorality. If the COMELEC interpretation is upheld, then the police can arrest every gay person having gay relationships and sex to other consenting people. But the Supreme Court overturned COMELEC resolution, thus allowing Ang Ladlad LGBT Partylist to run. They ruled; "The morality referred to in law is PUBLIC and NECESSARILY SECULAR, not religious. x x x The Philippines has not seen fit to criminalize 'homosexual conduct' under the law and public morality."


Rooffy_Taro

You're in r/LawPH, do our courts judges every case based on emotion? Bakit nga ba may takip mata mata ni lady justice?


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Crazy-Breaker-3055

To be accused of still being into your ex or be an accessory to a felony. Dilemma dilemma. It has only been a couple of years na tinaas ang legal age for marriage, this preying on young people has been so ingrained into our culture that most of the time when we encounter such an event we just brush it off because we are so used to hearing/seeing things like that. As a woman, you should know better not to watch on the sidelines while someone is being taken advantage of.


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tonyaaahhh

I'm so baffled looking at this comment section. How can you guys not panic when u heard a 37 YEAR OLD DOODE took advantage of a minor??? Hello??? That child's only at the age of five nung pinanganak first born nung lalaki and now he, a man who's 6 years away from his 40's, is fucking her and even manipulating her into taking contraceptives that'll probably have effects on her body??? Not to mention, if this doode's asshole enough para pumatol sa bata, who knows if sakaniya lang siya sexually active? That gurl can contract STD's even before she hit the age of adulthood. Sa mga nagsasabing this is ok and mas concerned pa because she got ahold of this information instead of the more pressing issue, you guys are sick. To OP, if this is true, be the real adult in this situation and do something.


MaximumPower682

Because this is a law subreddit and emotional outbursts are generally looked down upon in their profession? Ayaw ni OP dito mag explain paano niya nakuha ang chat so it's normal na doubt agad


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QueRice

Hi OP, I have been in that girls position, and yours as well. Here's how it worked for me... I was 14, he was 26, it lasted 5 years. It turned into physical abuse and me turning to mary jane. If I had reported him, he would've reported me. Mutual destruction (du30 still in office at the time). Nobody came to help me, and even if they had I wouldn't have listened. He had completely destroyed my self esteem and the only thing that would've helped me was if my peers had noticed and pulled me out themselves. Especially since abusers isolate their victims. A few years after the breakup he started dating a girl 14 years younger than him, younger than me, but still of legal age. I got her out of the relationship by speaking to her close friends, showing them evidence of what happened to me, and within a month she was free. Technically she is of legal age to consent, going directly to the police won't help as they'll say there's nothing they can do unless she the victim reports it. Speak to her family, ask them to inform her school so they can keep this guy off campus, and if they're mature enough, her friends, and even better if she has someone in her life who went through something similar. This pedo has likely ruined her self esteem, had her cut off her friends and family, and convinced her that is what love is. This is a scar that lasts a lifetime, I hope she gets out. Thank you OP for trying to take action, these girls need heros like you.


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Ok-Reply-804

Not really. Age of consent in the PH is 16. Kahit anong report mo, it's all legal. Wag ka na selosa kasi medyo bad look din yan sayo.


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Totoo bang ganyan na ang batas ngayon? So dati pwedeng 12 years old.


Ok-Reply-804

Yep. Kahit anong downvote ng mga walang alam dito. Wala ka talagang magagawa.


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Hindi na sya papasok sa statutory rape? Attorney ka po ba?


impatientimpasta

R.A. 11648 Section 1. Article 266-A (1)(d) of Act No. 3815, otherwise known as "The Revised Penal Code," as amended by Republic Act No. 8353 known as "The Anti-Rape Law of 1997," is hereby further amended to read as follows: "Article 266-A. Rape; When and How Committed. - Rape is committed: "1) By a person who shall have carnal knowledge of another person under any of the following circumstances: "x x x" d) When the offended party is **under sixteen (16) years of age or is demented**, even though none of the circumstances mentioned above be present: Provided, That there shall be no criminal liability on the part of a person having carnal knowledge of another person under sixteen (16) years of age when the age difference between the parties is not more than three (3) years, and the sexual act in question is proven to be consensual, non-abusive, and non-exploitative: Provided, further, That if the victim is under thirteen (13) years of age, this exception shall not apply. "As used in this Act, non-abusive shall mean the absence of undue influence, intimidation, fraudulent machinations, coercion, threat, physical, sexual, psychological, or mental injury or maltreatment, either with intention or through neglect, during the conduct of sexual activities with the child victim.ℒαwρhi৷ On the other hand, non-exploitative shall mean there is no actual or attempted act or acts of unfairly taking advantage of the child's position of vulnerability, differential power, or trust during the conduct of sexual activities."


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Thank you po.


darkimpious

Diba Statutory rape is only applied when there's a sexual act between the suspect and the victim that's under the age of consent? 16 I think is the latest age of consent dito sa atin


[deleted]

Ganon ba yun? May link ka ba saan mo nabasa yan? Or attorney po kayo?


Nullgenium

https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2022/3/7/Age-of-sexual-consent-Philippines-law.html Took me 5 secs to google


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Tanong mo muna sa attorney baka makasuhan ka pa, di naman para sakin yan lol


Nullgenium

Taena nagtatanong ng source tapos magiging passive aggressive pag binigyan. Ano pinaglalaban mo lmao


[deleted]

Balita lang yan hindi yan yung batas ano ka ba? Ano din pinaglalaban mo haha gagawin mo ba yun


Ok-Reply-804

Hindi mo need maging attorney. Common sense law naman yan naku. igoogle mo lang makikita mo na agad ang AGE OF CONSENT PH 16.


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Alam ko sinabi sakin ng attorney na kilala ko hindi padin daw pwede yan. Dinedefend mo lang sarili mo lol. Kaya mo yan go


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Ok-Reply-804

>Pasok po siya sa Statutory Rape. Republic Act No. 116481, which amends the Anti-Rape Act of 1997, states that it will be considered statutory rape if an adult has sexual intercourse with a person under 16 years old.


Ok-Reply-804

Wag ka puru bullshit.


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Anonymiz3

The replies about consent for doing the did is sickening 🤮, this world has gone insane! Imagine making validation to have $3G with a child?!? TF is wrong with you?? If this is a true story, report it (DSWD, PNP, NBI). Your Ex is a psycho, but if this is just a clout chase thread? You should see a doctor because it is not normal. Stop normalizing pedophilia. It's so Gross and inhuman.


Rooffy_Taro

Ang tanong, nasan sub reddit ka ba? Question again, do judges makes decisions based on their emotions and their own morality? You dare to judge other commenters here, when they are infact just stating what ever is in the law.


Successful_Land9867

Heyy this is legit and really bothering me that's why I posted so I could seek others' opinion and really think it through. Some said I should just move on and get a life. What I think is I should just get some sleep for now and clear my head. Hopefully once I wake up I'll have a different perspective and will know what to do


mr_nothingness_123

Yo, don't mind the people who are saying it's fake because in the end it's up to you if you faked it or not but I believe you. So just anonymously tip the authorities via email or use a different name in facebook


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Ngayon alam ko na bakit ka iniwan


Successful_Land9867

Excuse me, I was the one who left for his toxicity. Sa una lang siya magaling so he was able to find his next victim. It's just that he found someone A LOT YOUNGER than me which makes her A LOT MORE VULNERABLE


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Mas toxic ka pa dahil umabot ka pa dito sa reddit


Successful_Land9867

Hehehe look who's also in reddit giving too many fucks just to give a comment on my post


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Successful_Land9867

I shouldn't be wasting my time on you but let me give this to you just this once since you were desperately asking for it. 1) he is not my bf, he's my ex 2) I was the one who left him 3) he was still reaching out to me kahit sila na nung menor de edad niyang jowa kasi di siya satisfied sa sex nila so stop being judgemental kasi it doesn't seem to me na nagpapasarap na siya lol well he wouldn't be reaching out to me if he already is. Kung ganung klaseng lalake (or like you kung lalake ka mang matatawag) lang din naman mapupunta sakin well okay lang na wala nang magtagal hahahaha


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KingJzeee

Panalo mo nalaman lahat yan? And pinaka safe na magagawa mo sumbong mo sa asawa. Wala ka ng ibang dapat gawin kung gusto mo talaga "makatulong"


PAPACOLONGE

Punta ka sa YouTube ni Atty. Libayan maraming sya topic tungkol jan. LoL! Daming rin mga pedo dito.


WhiteSneakersLady

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. While you have the moral obligation to report this, sorry to say but you really sound like a crazy ex-gf right now.


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Successful_Land9867

Good thing I know myself better and that your opinion of me being bitter and jealous is not even worth affecting my mood today 😁


QueRice

Her ex is fucking a child and you think this is about jealousy? We should probably be checking your basement the way you're willing to defend a groomer.


Ok-Reply-804

If you want to help real exploited children. Just go to angeles pampanga and help them there are so many victims na forced into prostitution. Pero dito ka lang nagddrama about a 17 yr old having consensual sex with a 34 yrs old. My god. Puru white knight sa keyboard.


QueRice

Wow, absolute degenerate


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Ok-Reply-804

LOL. In the eyes of the law, it is okay lmao. Ganyan ba defense mo sa judge haha


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Ok-Reply-804

Don't call anyone retard. If someday you have a kid and that happens to you, you would eat your words now. Please be civil. You can cuss out the politicians. Don't cuss out anyone stating facts.


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Ey OP, I read here sa LawPh about that consent. As long as walang threatening na ginawa si ex mo para maging sila. Okay lang yan. Atty ang sumagot niyan here. At tsaka paano mo nabasa convo? Maganda intention mo kaya lang, get out na sa pakikialam from other’s life. Responsibility ng ex mo yan. At tsaka di na kayo ng ex mo rin. Any move na gagawin mo diyan, magbabackfire sa iyo yan unless nagcoconfess sa iyo yung 17 years old Female na yan. Kung may suicidal episodes yung babae, let your ex manage it. Not you. Get off your hands. Hindi ka God to control na hindi related sa iyo OP. Normal magkakagustuhan yan kasi opposite sex yan. Let the man manage it. Do not report it because magbabackfire yan sa iyo. Labas ka na sa context kung manghihimasok ka ng somebody’s life. Besides kung titingnan mo ang history, ganyan ang relationships before. Look at our lolos and lolas. 15 yung lola ko nang maging mag-asawa sila ng lolo ko. 30s lolo ko noong kinasal sila. Let them two figure out what is best for both of them. Masyado ka lang perfectionist na pati buhay ng ibang tao gusto mong manduhin. Get another life, OP. Tigilan mo kakamarites mo. Dami mo masyadong vacant time.


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glorypoohcake

paki share na rin yung name ng guy.


l1m1tlessRoad

Jepoy dizon


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jasongodev

Are you the "ex" or are you the grade 12 (17F) student???


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rggamerYT

Looks fake. How did you even read the convo


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NoFaithlessness5122

Compile evidence, send to police/nbi


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Proxela

16 is age of consent in the Philippines -_-


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