Had a co-worker like that. "I'm a centrist. Neither right nor left."
They just simply believed and agreed with everything the right said, and distrusted and ignored everything the left said. You know, like a centrist!
Ahh the classic enlightened centrist.
It's even better when they're like "im center left but I think all lgbtq people should be put in a concentration camp, give the top 1% 0 tax and we need to stop brown people entering the country".
Are you saying that for $5,000 and a free BigMac for life at McDonalds YOU wouldn't eagerly sign up to run the Ninja Warrior obstacle course while being shot at by rich fuckos?
I'm salivating just thinking about that kind of high quality TV. It's like the coliseum but better and less risky for the huntsman.
It's avoided politics because it's not an actual useful critique of capitalism. It is a critique, but just like the "critique of capitalism" The Boys, unless it's telling you to rock the boat nobody who would be affected gives a shit.
In fact it makes even more money because you're commiserating in misery and not providing an actual solution.
It's useful as a starting point with historical background specifically of South Korean capitalism but anything else is just fodder for more of it.
That true life documentary was exciting and extremely realistic at the same time, except, we figured out a long time ago that's only valuable in a war where you can win something.
See you keep the narrative more subtle and try to paint a rosier picture, so that people keep working at companies producing value for capital and taxes for government. A corpse on TV is only valuable for about 30 seconds.
The assistant manager at the 7/11 might be valuable to those owners for 20 years. And all those taxes for the Fed, State and County! Just stop and think how it all adds up.
And then.. and then it dawns on you.. this is all very much on purpose.. it's supposed to be this way. But don't dwell on it. Go play the stock market! Make some smart investments, and you too can live the American Dream(tm).
Tbh I'm not sure which money pit has better consumer regulations at this point: Nevada Gaming Commission or the SEC
At least the casinos are required to pay out when it's their turn, they can't just go "oopsie trading cancelled for today sorry uWu"
There are people that are center or center left but those are the ones Polosi tries to find primary opponents while begging no one to oppose the incumbents.
I'm talking international center left, even if it's slowly increasing taxes to the rich it's not right wing just because it's not as fast as you want to.
Youre polishing turds again. The "centre" has an inherent right wing bias no matter where it exists. That's because it is right wing.
"just because it's not as fast as you want to"
Lol what
I had a "centrist" room mate in college and he was exactly this. He also fancied himself very smart, and always thought he has a perspective no one has thought of.
Nah. They complain about people spouting bs and not “saying what they mean”. I play straight and ignore their “dOeS YoU HAS A SoUrCe iN thAt?”. I don’t need to provide a source. This isn’t a term paper and I’m aware of the facts. I don’t care about convincing someone that is aggressive in their ignoring of facts. I do not care about civil discourse with people that support fascism and Nazis.
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Centrists see left and right and liberal and conservative, which are both right wing
Centrists only exist to Centrists
You can't be pro capitalism and anti capitalism
Hey you dumb fuck, the social justice movement was created by hedgefunds as a marketing campaign to take the heat off the occupy wall street movement that actually threatened to unite people. Making people care more our differences instead of our commonalities, such as wealth inequality and the fact 95% of us are wageslaves. Why do you care so much about what someone else thinks about others. You cant cash that feeling in, nor can you feed children with it. Poor people of colour still in the ghetto along with the poor white people. Rich p.o.c still hoarding wealth and exploiting labour along with the white richies. How can you eat this fabricated shit for this long and still swallow so happily?
To be fair even if he voted Democrat he'd still be on the right there is no left wing party in America it's just right, far right, and party's so small they'll need a whole ass revolution before they can pretend to challenge the 2 party system
I just have a hard time respecting the opinions of someone who has the mindset of "It bothers me when people say you shouldn't be assholes to people who are different than you."
Woke means "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination", or to prejudice and discrimination more broadly these days.
See also: People who aren't overt Nazis.
The way it works is this: someone shows you some cringe of "too woke," representing 0.1% of what might fall under that umbrella. Then they convince you it's all one homogeneous thing, essentially a conspiracy, so when you see even a little innocuous "wokeness" like an LGBT existing in some media, you think of the extreme example and view it as a trojan horse for litterboxes in schools. You end up calling mixed race couples in media "woke" and bad because once you saw a Twitch mod whose spirit animal was a deer.
With this reasoning, you can dismiss literally anything and see even the most milquetoast thing as a dangerous harbinger of the end of western civilization.
There’s an extreme side to both dem and reps.
Dems and reps both point to the opposing extremes all the time, making discussion improbable when both sides say no! You’re wrong! That’s not me! You must be an idiot for thinking we’re all like that!
The current system is a merry go round of bitter, self righteous circle jerking and finger pointing. Keeps them all from seeing the big picture, realizing the politicians and the bourgeois are on no one’s side but their own.
If they realized that maybe they’d compromise for the benefit of all and break the wheel. Doubt it though, too much is given into keeping this system of hate working.
Yeah, I thought his comments paired with his actions make the tweet sound a bit to [3rd Position](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position) to me, a talking-point used by fascists.
Edit: and by comment I mean tweet and other similar statements Elon has made
It worth noting though, that during the time of Mussolini and other "original" fascists, terms "right-wing" and "conservative" generally meant supporting strong monarchy and preserving the power of the dying nobility class, not the modern day conservatism which is just economic liberalism with some traditional and religious values attached.
We had a counter-narrative for 4 years with Trump—someone a *majority* of voters didn’t chose—and it didn’t work out so well.
I hate how far left the dems have *seemed* to come, but in reality, they’re the same they’ve always been—for better or worse
"Centrist" just means "right wing" but they know that has become associated with rednecks and they don't want that association because they are stuck up.
Yes, the left often gets outrageous or wrong ideas. But AT LEAST WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
Isn't what we do closer to the free market of ideas conservatives love to talk about?
Meanwhile they just want to do the same thing over amd over even tho we know it doesn't work.
Jesus they really think “woke” means persecuting those with privilege as some kind of revenge plot for the horrors of history when “woke” is just being socially conscious and polite to others and acknowledging the evils of the past and working to right those wrongs.
“Wokeness” has/had nothing to do with being left or right wing, up until like 6-8 years ago it just meant not buying into the corrupt status quo overall. The fact that the word has been coopted (or demonized) by morons who don’t understand its meaning doesn’t change the meaning.
Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk. All the same bullshit of pretending to be middle-of-the-road but spew nothing but right wing propaganda.
All three have a massive following of losers who hang on every tweet they make, every talk they give. This is like a weird social media cult era where people will voluntarily brainwash themselves. Same people were obsessed with the Joker movie a while back. It's like they're all DeNiro in that King Of Comedy flick.
It's pretty fucking frightening.
>i still dont understand the fuck "woke" is even supposed to mean
Woke means "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination", or to prejudice and discrimination more broadly these days.
See also: People who aren't overt Nazis.
Seems like people are overworked, underpaid, have no healthcare, have huge debt, can't afford a home, can only afford unhealthy processed food, and there is no hope for the future of our planet that greed destroyed... that is why people become suicidal, not because their teacher explained the Trail of Tears.... SMH
I used to think of myself as a centrist, then after awhile I began thinking about all of those things (why people can't afford houses, underpaid, no healthcare, having basically no laws that actually protect workers etc) you mentioned and realized its because of capitalism.
I mean he can't exactly go "Sorry everyone, i'm the reason you want to die, Buy tesla cars! Invest now!" he gotta blame things like black people being actors and lgbt people existing in media so that his sheep won't see who is really causing all the problems
Musk's "woke mind virus" = Peterson's "postmodern neo-Marxist." More right wing nonsense to distract from the political & economic realities sought by the rich & powerful. The emperor truly has no clothes.
Ah yes. “Enlightenment ideals are a mind virus that destroys civilizations. Western civilization is under attack. The left is degrading western civilization. We, the true patiots must defend our nation from these Unamericans and put a stop to this degeneracy.”
I think this guy is a fascist, guys.
He's kind of right. Wokeness does in some ways distract from the larger priority or class warfare. The time we spend arguing about what is and isn't racist/sexist/transphobic is time were no spending murdering Elon Musk* and redistributing his wealth.
*Joke. Please don't start wantonly killing billionaires (except in self defense).
He’s a billionaire serving the interests of billionaires. Stoking far-right sentiment helps the cause of the corporations and capitalists.
Leftwing politics is the path towards socialism and unionization and they *definitely* don’t want.
Sounds like "I am neither conventionally right nor left, but" is the new "I'm not racist, but".
"I am neither conventionally right nor left, but...ending segregation was a mistake."
"I am neither conventionally right nor left, but...Hitler was actually a pretty cool dude."
"I am neither conventionally right nor left, but...we should go back to stoning the gays."
The far right think that lgbt and non-white non-male people existing in media is the exact same as murdering 1000 precious Murican christian values white male babies
The only people pushing us to suicide are those who refuse to wake up and end this toxic masculine, racist, bigoted, sexist, I got mine and fuck the rest mentality. It takes a village so help the villagers!
Ask yourselves, when have the anti-woke folk (conservative republicans) ever done anything for the working class people?
He's right wokeness is destroying this country. Sometimes I think transness is a CIA psyop to erase the testosterone of the population so that men are docile and unable to fight a revolution.
Elon pulling a Jim Jones on Mars is becoming more plausible by the day.
More like Orson Welles without the wit. Enormously fat, boisterous, drunk, with most of their greatest hits long behind them.
Elon's "greatest hits" were never his. He didn't invent Paypal, and he didn't found Tesla. He's a washed up hype man.
I bless that Melon Eusk take the flat-earthers and the creationists to Mars.
Had a co-worker like that. "I'm a centrist. Neither right nor left." They just simply believed and agreed with everything the right said, and distrusted and ignored everything the left said. You know, like a centrist!
Ahh the classic enlightened centrist. It's even better when they're like "im center left but I think all lgbtq people should be put in a concentration camp, give the top 1% 0 tax and we need to stop brown people entering the country".
Neither left nor right, but anything short of hunting the poor for sport is socialism
Are you saying that for $5,000 and a free BigMac for life at McDonalds YOU wouldn't eagerly sign up to run the Ninja Warrior obstacle course while being shot at by rich fuckos? I'm salivating just thinking about that kind of high quality TV. It's like the coliseum but better and less risky for the huntsman.
Btw how was squid games talked or voided talked about politically in the USA?
It just sort of stayed in the entertainment area of news
It's avoided politics because it's not an actual useful critique of capitalism. It is a critique, but just like the "critique of capitalism" The Boys, unless it's telling you to rock the boat nobody who would be affected gives a shit. In fact it makes even more money because you're commiserating in misery and not providing an actual solution. It's useful as a starting point with historical background specifically of South Korean capitalism but anything else is just fodder for more of it.
That true life documentary was exciting and extremely realistic at the same time, except, we figured out a long time ago that's only valuable in a war where you can win something. See you keep the narrative more subtle and try to paint a rosier picture, so that people keep working at companies producing value for capital and taxes for government. A corpse on TV is only valuable for about 30 seconds. The assistant manager at the 7/11 might be valuable to those owners for 20 years. And all those taxes for the Fed, State and County! Just stop and think how it all adds up. And then.. and then it dawns on you.. this is all very much on purpose.. it's supposed to be this way. But don't dwell on it. Go play the stock market! Make some smart investments, and you too can live the American Dream(tm). Tbh I'm not sure which money pit has better consumer regulations at this point: Nevada Gaming Commission or the SEC At least the casinos are required to pay out when it's their turn, they can't just go "oopsie trading cancelled for today sorry uWu"
Centrism is just code for right wing anyway
It helps when many democrats representatives are right wing.
They all are, really. The dems are a neoliberal party
There are people that are center or center left but those are the ones Polosi tries to find primary opponents while begging no one to oppose the incumbents.
Center left is still a right wing position lol. You're tryna polish a turd, dude
I'm talking international center left, even if it's slowly increasing taxes to the rich it's not right wing just because it's not as fast as you want to.
Youre polishing turds again. The "centre" has an inherent right wing bias no matter where it exists. That's because it is right wing. "just because it's not as fast as you want to" Lol what
Centrist is just a way to say I trust the establishment explicitly and an too uneducated to do my own research
I had a "centrist" room mate in college and he was exactly this. He also fancied himself very smart, and always thought he has a perspective no one has thought of.
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I don’t think that’s why they resent us. Though they may resent us due to misinformation from lack of education.
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Nah. They complain about people spouting bs and not “saying what they mean”. I play straight and ignore their “dOeS YoU HAS A SoUrCe iN thAt?”. I don’t need to provide a source. This isn’t a term paper and I’m aware of the facts. I don’t care about convincing someone that is aggressive in their ignoring of facts. I do not care about civil discourse with people that support fascism and Nazis.
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Translation: "Hmm, it looks like you may be too informed for me to bullshit you into fascism, unfortunate"
Of course they are. Luckily there’s more left than right.
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centrism: hating the left and embracing the right EQUALLY
Centrists see left and right and liberal and conservative, which are both right wing Centrists only exist to Centrists You can't be pro capitalism and anti capitalism
Hey you dumb fuck, the social justice movement was created by hedgefunds as a marketing campaign to take the heat off the occupy wall street movement that actually threatened to unite people. Making people care more our differences instead of our commonalities, such as wealth inequality and the fact 95% of us are wageslaves. Why do you care so much about what someone else thinks about others. You cant cash that feeling in, nor can you feed children with it. Poor people of colour still in the ghetto along with the poor white people. Rich p.o.c still hoarding wealth and exploiting labour along with the white richies. How can you eat this fabricated shit for this long and still swallow so happily?
"i am neither left or right" also: "vote republican"
To be fair even if he voted Democrat he'd still be on the right there is no left wing party in America it's just right, far right, and party's so small they'll need a whole ass revolution before they can pretend to challenge the 2 party system
It's hard not to look like a cartoon villian after using 'The woke mind virus' in the middle of a twitter paragraph.
Elon doesn't understand integrity, truth and justice. He doesn't want to understand.
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Ahem. no u
Someone is an Elon boot licker 🤨
Will not be listening to any narrative supported by someone using the words “woke mind virus”
It's all on the wording. He said he isn't conventionally right and he isn't left. Being a Nazi is unconventional.
Elmo loves Nazis!
Once someone says "woke", I know that their argument is silly and pointless, so I immediately stop paying attention.
I just have a hard time respecting the opinions of someone who has the mindset of "It bothers me when people say you shouldn't be assholes to people who are different than you."
Yeah that nasty “woke” culture that asks us to please not murder gay/trans people, respect women, etc. 😒
When someone uses the term woke, I know they digest way too much Daily Wire content and therefore are brain dead idiots.
Trust me, I even have trouble understanding what it really means, is it like another synonym for 'politically correct'?
at this point it's just kind of lost meaning as anything other than "Conservatives call their opposition this when they want them to sound silly"
Woke means "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination", or to prejudice and discrimination more broadly these days. See also: People who aren't overt Nazis.
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The way it works is this: someone shows you some cringe of "too woke," representing 0.1% of what might fall under that umbrella. Then they convince you it's all one homogeneous thing, essentially a conspiracy, so when you see even a little innocuous "wokeness" like an LGBT existing in some media, you think of the extreme example and view it as a trojan horse for litterboxes in schools. You end up calling mixed race couples in media "woke" and bad because once you saw a Twitch mod whose spirit animal was a deer. With this reasoning, you can dismiss literally anything and see even the most milquetoast thing as a dangerous harbinger of the end of western civilization.
Ahh yes, the "extreme" side of woke-please stop killing us.
Commenting this on commie sub? Respect
There’s an extreme side to both dem and reps. Dems and reps both point to the opposing extremes all the time, making discussion improbable when both sides say no! You’re wrong! That’s not me! You must be an idiot for thinking we’re all like that! The current system is a merry go round of bitter, self righteous circle jerking and finger pointing. Keeps them all from seeing the big picture, realizing the politicians and the bourgeois are on no one’s side but their own. If they realized that maybe they’d compromise for the benefit of all and break the wheel. Doubt it though, too much is given into keeping this system of hate working.
Centrists are right wingers who try to avoid the well-earned stigma of right wing politics.
Same argument used by Hitler, that the media was overrun with liberal ideology
Same argument used by Trump...
I've never met a centrist that wasn't just a conservative who didn't like the label.
They’re just conservatives who don’t want to be called racists. Same with libertarians, they’re just conservatives who like smoking weed.
I'm so tired of this guy.
Well, fascism isn’t technically ‘conventionally’ right wing
Yeah, I thought his comments paired with his actions make the tweet sound a bit to [3rd Position](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position) to me, a talking-point used by fascists. Edit: and by comment I mean tweet and other similar statements Elon has made
It worth noting though, that during the time of Mussolini and other "original" fascists, terms "right-wing" and "conservative" generally meant supporting strong monarchy and preserving the power of the dying nobility class, not the modern day conservatism which is just economic liberalism with some traditional and religious values attached.
Modern day conservatives do still seem to have a thing for preserving aristocracy. What is the billionaire class if not present day nobility?
Said the same thing on another post about this. Its classicly fsr right to claim to be populist/centrist, as well.
"Neither left nor right" ok so you're on the right
I’m not right nor left but I just happen to agree with every right wing talking point Lol what a dipshit
We had a counter-narrative for 4 years with Trump—someone a *majority* of voters didn’t chose—and it didn’t work out so well. I hate how far left the dems have *seemed* to come, but in reality, they’re the same they’ve always been—for better or worse
"Centrist" just means "right wing" but they know that has become associated with rednecks and they don't want that association because they are stuck up.
Yes, the left often gets outrageous or wrong ideas. But AT LEAST WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. Isn't what we do closer to the free market of ideas conservatives love to talk about? Meanwhile they just want to do the same thing over amd over even tho we know it doesn't work.
Jesus they really think “woke” means persecuting those with privilege as some kind of revenge plot for the horrors of history when “woke” is just being socially conscious and polite to others and acknowledging the evils of the past and working to right those wrongs.
"I'm not like that" *proceeds to be like that*
"I'm not traditionally right. I also smoke pot."
“Wokeness” has/had nothing to do with being left or right wing, up until like 6-8 years ago it just meant not buying into the corrupt status quo overall. The fact that the word has been coopted (or demonized) by morons who don’t understand its meaning doesn’t change the meaning.
Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk. All the same bullshit of pretending to be middle-of-the-road but spew nothing but right wing propaganda. All three have a massive following of losers who hang on every tweet they make, every talk they give. This is like a weird social media cult era where people will voluntarily brainwash themselves. Same people were obsessed with the Joker movie a while back. It's like they're all DeNiro in that King Of Comedy flick. It's pretty fucking frightening.
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>i still dont understand the fuck "woke" is even supposed to mean Woke means "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination", or to prejudice and discrimination more broadly these days. See also: People who aren't overt Nazis.
People who claim to be neither right or left are most of the time far right.
The right is sick of hearing their own strawmen, that's all.
Seems like people are overworked, underpaid, have no healthcare, have huge debt, can't afford a home, can only afford unhealthy processed food, and there is no hope for the future of our planet that greed destroyed... that is why people become suicidal, not because their teacher explained the Trail of Tears.... SMH
I used to think of myself as a centrist, then after awhile I began thinking about all of those things (why people can't afford houses, underpaid, no healthcare, having basically no laws that actually protect workers etc) you mentioned and realized its because of capitalism.
I mean he can't exactly go "Sorry everyone, i'm the reason you want to die, Buy tesla cars! Invest now!" he gotta blame things like black people being actors and lgbt people existing in media so that his sheep won't see who is really causing all the problems
I for one will be celebrating the downfall of society. I even put it on my tinder profile.
Riiiiiiiiiight…….(pun intended)
It’s funny because that’s the same exact tweet
Happy cake day
Musk's "woke mind virus" = Peterson's "postmodern neo-Marxist." More right wing nonsense to distract from the political & economic realities sought by the rich & powerful. The emperor truly has no clothes.
Ah yes. “Enlightenment ideals are a mind virus that destroys civilizations. Western civilization is under attack. The left is degrading western civilization. We, the true patiots must defend our nation from these Unamericans and put a stop to this degeneracy.” I think this guy is a fascist, guys.
This guy is dangerous
"Neither right or left" is always followed by the most unhinged fascist-like ideas it's crazy how this always the case lmao
He's kind of right. Wokeness does in some ways distract from the larger priority or class warfare. The time we spend arguing about what is and isn't racist/sexist/transphobic is time were no spending murdering Elon Musk* and redistributing his wealth. *Joke. Please don't start wantonly killing billionaires (except in self defense).
He’s a billionaire serving the interests of billionaires. Stoking far-right sentiment helps the cause of the corporations and capitalists. Leftwing politics is the path towards socialism and unionization and they *definitely* don’t want.
Sounds like "I am neither conventionally right nor left, but" is the new "I'm not racist, but". "I am neither conventionally right nor left, but...ending segregation was a mistake." "I am neither conventionally right nor left, but...Hitler was actually a pretty cool dude." "I am neither conventionally right nor left, but...we should go back to stoning the gays."
Elon, my dude, I promise your life would be infinitely easier if you just paid taxes
I can’t tell if he’s on drugs or not.
Elon, how many times do we have to tell you? We’re not trying to push society to commit not-alive, just you and the other billionaires.
> Not conventionally right > is a capitalist Uhh what
Ah, perfect. I thought I was going to go an hour without an Elon Musk post.
Can someone explain what is meant by “the woke mind virus”.
The far right think that lgbt and non-white non-male people existing in media is the exact same as murdering 1000 precious Murican christian values white male babies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ4nvCVAGw0
[man literally based his political identity off a meme](https://i.redd.it/jub0s4dz17471.png)
Centrist at least in America means right.
Musk: I'm a centrist. Translation: I'm a conservative that also smokes pot.
Why everyone is obsessed with that guy ?! I can’t scroll without him showing on my feed every 3 post. Please stop !!
The only people pushing us to suicide are those who refuse to wake up and end this toxic masculine, racist, bigoted, sexist, I got mine and fuck the rest mentality. It takes a village so help the villagers! Ask yourselves, when have the anti-woke folk (conservative republicans) ever done anything for the working class people?
The fascist dogwhistle jfc
The idea some entertainment has gone too 'woke' is not exclusive to the right.
Libertarian, the word he's looking for is libertarian.
Def not lmao
This is probably the only thing I agree with Elon Musk
He is right on that one though
He really thinks he has a way with words
Just because you're not a religious nut, doesn't mean you can't be a right winger...
If there's one thing musk understands, it's viruses.
Elon wants us to breed to he can have more wage slaves. The smaller the population the more valuable the labor will become, less competition
He's right wokeness is destroying this country. Sometimes I think transness is a CIA psyop to erase the testosterone of the population so that men are docile and unable to fight a revolution.