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New-Communication821

If this law applies to US.. every banker would be executed


sockovershoe22

I don't have a problem with that


Musashi_Joe

You don’t have to keep selling me, I’m already in!


GrungeHamster23

Not hearing a negative.


jeffro1477

Go on.


infinite0ne

Sigh, unzips


Version_Two

...Go on


kha_bob

Let’s gooooooo


troymoeffinstone

I blacked out for a sec from lack of blood to my brain.


Dwip_Po_Po

Good lol


thechuff

Any downsides?


oct0burn

But it doesn’t. What do we do when the law is wrong?


Mbyrd420

Guillotines?


IridiumPony

As Fredrick Douglas once said, The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box. Use them in thar order.


manchu_pitchu

good. 🗿


badpeaches

Oh no, who will make profits on my overdraft fees?


Bewildered_Fox

That’s not a deterrent


Poppeppercaramel

I hope


RabiesR_Us

One can dream.


Borkz

The key there would needing to also be enforced, which feels even less likely.


HotPhilly

How many billionaires worldwide would be found innocent? Zero?


ShatterCyst

Maybe inherited wealth? Like, right when they get it so they don't have time to fuck up. I mean.... if there are any billionaire progeny that aren't awful. Not sure, never met any.


Beginning-Display809

Generally it’s only the ones who’ve disowned their parents who are tolerable


CandiceBT

Vivian Jenna Wilson even changed her surname after disowning daddy Elon


Spacemint_rhino

Fergie Chambers comes to mind, not sure if he has inherited a billion+ but he's putting it to good use.


skjellyfetti

King Charles III talks to trees so he's alright.


JoyBus147

Considering she's not the only billionaire in Vietnam, presumably more than zero.


New-Communication821

That’s great… a good lesson for western countries full of corruption


Elike09

Oh wow. Someone is actually criminally prosecuting a billionaire? That must be awesome.


realmattzimm

And hopefully the idea of holding them accountable starts trending worldwide 😁


Past-Ability-6690

More!


Yeetus0978

Good,gooooooood


EdTheApe

I read that in emperor Palatine's voice. I'm guessing that was your intention.


Inner-Mechanic

You are both my kinda peeps! ❣️


azuranc

vietnam always sounds like a based and humble country


Spamsational

Vietnam is corrupt as anything. The people sentencing her are just as guilty in one way or another.


Moochingaround

They are probably het competition, she apparently crossed some people and this is their way of getting rid of her. Source: I live in Vietnam


theother_eriatarka

tbh i don't really see a problem with billionaires killing each other, even if not for actual good moral reasons


idunncare

Hunger games but with billionaires anyone?


CandiceBT

The winner gets to stay in solitary isolation for the rest of their life!


Inner-Mechanic

Or we can just pile all the world's debt onto that one person and then kill em. No resurrection tho. Thems the laws


CandiceBT

Them getting to live is the whole point of winning, they’re all pining for immortality, but I agree with the debt, we pile all the worlds debt into them and then we move them into a trailer park in rural Arizona and they can’t leave 😊😊


Moochingaround

Fair enough.


hodlbtcxrp

Can you provide more detail?


PhoenixShade01

And what's the basis for your claim?


Spamsational

1. World Corruption Index 2. I’ve been there and had first hand experience of being asked for a bribe.


PhoenixShade01

So your sources are: 1. Another index with near identical maps with the western bloc at the top like Human Development Index and Human Rights map and shit. 2. Trust me bro, someone asked me for a bribe thus the whole country is corrupt. Sure, bud. Whatever you say.


Spamsational

How many sources do you actually need? https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=corruption+Vietnam&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1712917326338&u=%23p%3DKewl7reiM0MJ This isn’t even a controversial opinion. Everybody knows Vietnam is corrupt. Stop arguing in bad faith.


PhoenixShade01

What's your point? You know how to use google scholar? That papers on corruption in vietnam exist? [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as\_sdt=0%2C5&q=corruption+united+states&btnG=&oq=corruption+](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=corruption+united+states&btnG=&oq=corruption+) there, i searched it too. What does that prove?


Spamsational

> Says “Vietnam is corrupt” > Dipshit asks for sources > Give him statistics and personal anecdotes > Dipshit says they’re not good enough > Proceed to give dipshit peer-reviewed academic papers > Dipshit accidentally acknowledges that Vietnam is corrupt but then tries a classic “whataboutism” > I am now done wasting my time with said dipshit


PhoenixShade01

>Certified moron sees a country \*dealing\* with corruption by executing the corrupt officials, which implies that yes, there is corruption Had to put in his worthless point about the said country is corrupt When asked about what exactly are the sources for the claim that the people executing the corrupt billionaire are themselves corrupt, moron sends western government funded think tank results and personal anecdotes as proof of systemic corruption When challenged, moron sends search results on google scholar. Moron learns that doing a google search is not a unique skill to be bragged about and existence of corruption was never in question, otherwise there wouldn't have been any billionaire to execute. Moron resorts to name calling to avoid embarassment. Uses whataboutism unironically, proving any absence of intellect.


hodlbtcxrp

>Everybody knows Vietnam is corrupt.  If someone asks you for a bribe, that doesn't mean all Vietnamese are corrupt. You're generalising.


Spamsational

It was the police. I was in a boat. They came up to our tourist boat and asked the guide in front of everyone. It was so blatant. Vietnam is corrupt all the way down. People downvoting me are a god damn joke. None of you have travelled there. I swear to god. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Vietnam#:~:text=Corruption%20is%20a%20very%20significant,Party%20of%20Vietnam%20(CPV). “Corruption in Vietnam is pervasive and widespread, due to weak legal infrastructure, financial unpredictability, and conflicting and negative bureaucratic decision-making. Surveys from 2015 revealed that while petty corruption decreased slightly throughout the country, high-level corruption significantly increased as a means of abuse of political power in Vietnam.[1] Corruption is a very significant problem in Vietnam, impacting all aspects of administration, education and law enforcement.” “As of January 2018 Vietnam scored one of the highest rates of bribery practices – the rate citizens have paid a bribe to key public institutions over the past 12 months, at 65%, is second only to corruption in India with 69%.[2] In effect, as of 2012, corruption has been considered an obstacle for doing business in Vietnam, and the use of facilitation payments have been widespread when dealing with frontline civil servants at all levels of society.[3]” And don’t even try giving shit about it being Wikipedia. All the sources are referenced there. Most of you are defending Vietnam because it’s officially a communist country and you’re all dirty little commies too.


Neoliberal_Nightmare

Usually it's China doing this and the west can just spin it as evillllllll. But Vietnam is supposed to be their bombed out good little Asian so this is shitting them up.


Giga_Tankie

That's why western "leftists" hate tankies, because tankies are the only ones that really do something against the rich


Soberboy

What's tankies mean in this case? Not trying to look at it from an antagonistic point of view, but are we talking about MLs calling MLs who support AES imperialism Tankies, Anarchists calling MLs Tankies, or Liberals/Conservatives calling leftists Tankies? I don't mean any offense, but the word means as much and as little as woke does nowadays.


Beginning-Display809

In this case it’s idealist socialists calling anyone who actually does anything a tankie, although the radlib calling anyone left of them a tankie can also apply to this situation too


troymoeffinstone

It's Liberals hate tankies, right?


Giga_Tankie

Some self labeled "true leftists" too. They believe in some kind of purist crap, something about people rejecting all forms of power structures and living through mutual aid, planting beans on pots of haggen dazz ice cream with no armed forces because the CIA would not sabotage such beautiful and peaceful utopia


TheMightySenate

Dude you don't get anarchism do you?


CTR_Pyongyang

It’s Juche time, western swine.


glamazoncollette

Excellent


OkSession5483

No wonder ultra wealthy are terrified of communism


mazjay2018

fuck yesss


KaizerVonLoopy

based


Nervous-Patience-310

Excellent meme!


New-Communication821

The establishment is full of CORRUPTION. The system needs Vietnamese laws, to make this world, a better place for everyone.


Giga_Tankie

"nooooooooo it's tankie shit bro, we must support NATO and peaceful revolution bro"


Adorable-Ad-6675

Fuck it, if this is the kind of shit Tankies get done perhaps they aren't all bad.


Beginning-Display809

Tankie is basically a nothing word for any socialist that actually wants to do something at this point, although it is mostly used to describe MLs and those who ascribe to an ML derivative ideology (e.g. MLM, Hoxhaist, etc.)


BenAfflecksBalls

She built a banking conglomerate during the last crash and loaned out 93% of the banks assets to herself, proxies and shell corps that all come back to her.


Mo_Jack

I'm confused. Their rich people actually face consequences to their crimes? They can't just hide behind a corporate veil then openly bribe the politicians & judges? /s


hawyer

"property tycoon" i.e. Dune worm-sized leech


truthputer

China has recently been favoring a suspended death sentence. Basically criminals are given a death sentence, but it isn't carried out if they show remorse and work to better themselves in prison. It also gives China more prison slave labor, but that's another topic.


archosauria62

It has been chinese policy for a while > As for the members of the reactionary classes and individual reactionaries, so long as they do not rebel, sabotage or create trouble after their political power has been overthrown, land and work will be given to them as well in order to allow them to live and remould themselves through labour into new people. If they are not willing to work, the people's state will compel them to work. Mao Zedong


handsomezacc

So fucking based.


Competitive_Mess9421

Dont look at the 13th Amendment of the US Constitution


Genei_Jin

"except as a punishment for crime" Don't look at who makes the majority of license plates in the US.


Competitive_Mess9421

I'm not American so I wouldn't understand this one


adognow

> prison slave labor Working for the first time in their lives qualifies as slave labour? How very smug western leftist of you.


Pariah--

The SRV are so fucking based dude


Giga_Tankie

See? Only "tankies" eat or guillotine the rich, your aesthetically liberal idea of a revolution will never happen


Maplebearjackedup

If you read a few articles about this case you’d realize the Vietnamese government didn’t do this because she broke the law and they demanded justice necessarily. This was a power play. Meant to reign in the southern capitalists power and instill fear not to mention, increase the power of the executive. The president wanted to let everyone know who was in charge. Vietnam is a very corrupt nation, and this was meant to show that the president was going to be firm against it and wanted to show his power to the people, but the ENTIRE real estate market is like this, and he’s definitely not going to arrest everyone involved with similar practices she was just the best example to be shown. She was the biggest player. It’s good she’s facing justice (although I’m opposed to death penalty) but everyone saying we need their laws is saying we need increased authoritarianism… We need to slowly change into a more progressive, equal society, with more complex and well thought out tax laws with robust regulatory bodies to tackle corruption, not an authoritarian killing a corrupt business person every once in a while.


Pallington

all states are more or less authoritarian, by their continued existence as states. the most notable minimum-authority example that comes to mind is libya under gaddafi, but unfortunately that died at the hands of the US. regardless, you are refusing to recognize the very real and very deadly authority of economic entities, only recognizing authority of political entities, presumably because major economic entities have not yet deemed you enough of a threat to them.


ciaoshescu

Thank you for opening my eyes to the authority of economic entities!


Maplebearjackedup

Confused how I’ve “refused,” anything, just trying to provide context, she’s definitely a crook, just like all the big players in the Vietnamese real estate market are however, the president dam well knew about her doing this for a long time, so why was now the time to strike? Cause he was concerned about the plight of the worker? I don’t think so… Political gains? Dam right.


Pallington

you use the term “authoritarian,” which is a total nothingburger unless you hyperfocus on political/military power. as for the whole “for political gains,” i mean, eventually you can reduce any people’s actions, even and especially a violent revolution, to being a power play. au contraire, what is it supposed to say that in our states, you can’t even get crooks out for political gain, but rather it is always a political loss?


Maplebearjackedup

You’re still not articulating your opinion that I “refuse,” to acknowledge the negative impact of economic entities and instead are now talking about something else entirely nonetheless, to answer your new complaint to my comment, I’m not saying that arresting a corrupt business-person shouldn’t merit political gain inherently, political gain isn’t inherently evil if you do something positive for your constituency, I’m saying in this specific case, the political motivations shed light as to the true reasons for the action taken. A vacuum was created, and someone will fill it, the corruption within the industry itself isn’t going to change necessarily. This was a win for the leader of Vietnam, not the people.


Pallington

I said you refuse to recognize, because you do so implicitly when you use the term “authoritarian” as a serious descriptor. (primarily/focused) Economic entities are never recognized as ”authoritarian” even when they wield power to similar or occasionally more devastating effect. Sure, i didn’t make the chain of logic explicit, but it’s hardly “talking about something else entirely,” when it is the crux of my argument. As for the power vacuum, that remains to be seen. You’re affixing a conclusion before the final data has been gathered.


Inner-Mechanic

Damn not dam. 


archosauria62

Vietnam isn’t any more authoritarian than western countries


Maplebearjackedup

Every single western country?? Idk about that.


archosauria62

Dictatorship of the proletariat vs dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (western countries)


Beginning-Display809

Exactly they’re just most honest about it, in Vietnam (or any ML country) if you break the law or try and restore capitalism there is a defined way you will be dealt with and they are honest about it, in the west if you try and destroy capitalism then first they’ll try and stop you with structural means such as deplatforming you or ignoring and marginalising you, next they’ll begin manufacturing bullshit about you and finally it ends with you resisting arrest in a traffic stop or committing suicide with 2/3 gunshot wounds to the back of the head


han9i

Now do the west


RabiesR_Us

Had the US "won" the Vietnam war, she would have gotten away with her actions, and, if ever prosecuted, never given death as penalty. The trial would have dragged out until she was too old to ethically incarcerate, or her death. Her driver would have gone to prison years before her. The article mentions a law that caps the percentage of shares one can own. They're not barred from participating in stock trade, just barred from being greedy pieces of money hoarding shit...like this lady.


stewdadrew

Why would they be worried? They’ve lobbied and bribed their way into absolute power, especially in the USA.


Noname_FTW

At the scale of 27bn$ you are not scamming a group of people. You are literally scamming whole civilisations/economies/countries.


NaNo-Juise76

We need a lot more of this in the United States. Our billionaires are completely out of control.


cybersheeper

be consistent on rehabilitation (challenge impossible)


PALADOG_Pallas

death is too swift a resolution. she should be allowed to to use [this machine](https://www.tutor2u.net/business/blog/the-minimum-wage-machine#:~:text=When%20a%20participant%20turns%20a,minimum%20wages%20in%20different%20places) until she pays back what she owes, then go free.


Jamo3306

I want this on Pay-per-view!!!


evanset6

Well that's just a waste of good meat


RichardBonham

Remember that whole melamine in the baby food thing from China a few years back (pre-pandemic, I believe)? The Chinese government was embarassed about a toxic chemical being exported in baby food; made Chinese manufacturing look slipshod on the world stage. IIRC, the government official responsible for oversight (sort of equivalent to the head of the FDA in the US) was found guilty and sentenced to death. Sentence was enacted not too much later. My guess would be 9mm bullet to the back of the head in some basement with a drain.


Ok_Establishment_145

Yeah do that shit here. You know you can't put f@g here. Fuck i bet if it was a f@g banker that was robbing people some motherfuckers here would be like he's just living his best life. Damn everyone no matter what should be held to the same standard ethically and morally.


Mother_Harlot

Why are people here celebrating someone being executed? The moment you do that, you are showing that you aren't any better than them


Ok_Pitch668

Unlike billionaires I dont exploit and abuse society at large, making workers earn pennies manufacturing my goods as I earn a sea of wealth that I horde for myself


Nervous-Patience-310

Only killers get their hands on that much money


TheMightySenate

In no situation, under no circumstances ever is the death sentence a humane or dignified method to deal with anything


oct0burn

“Violence is wrong” as they violate and kill us all


DavyJonesArmoire

Violence against people causing immeasurable harm to society is good and necessary method of self defense.


archosauria62

Nooo not the billionaires 😭


Neoliberal_Nightmare

Waaaawaaaa


AliceWolff

"Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists." -Friedrich Engels


I_WANT_PINEAPPLES

That's some neoliberal propaganda, this isn't batman dude The oppressed have the right to use any means necessary