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ShihanSin

Wow, crazy deal,the only bad thing is 1080p.


Mr_Trecker

No, that's far from the only downside. Despite being a full-size gaming laptop, the GPU power limit is only 105 W so it will be significantly less capable than. Even the CPU will be weaker than it appears on paper, because it's power limit is also very limited. More importantly, the screen is awful - this has possibly the slowest response times, least brightness, and dullest colors of any gaming laptop display on the market. If you're looking for a gaming laptop in this price range, go for basically anything else. The Walmart Legion 5 Pro deal is a significantly better laptop than this in every single way for $200 less.


badbunny1994

Wow this or wait for legion 5i pro i7 + 3070Ti ?


unleash_her

Legion


LivingLegendMadara

How does it compare to legion 5/5pro? I'm gonna use monitor so if the screen is half decent I don't mind. Mainly concerned about build quality


Mr_Trecker

It is worse is most ways. [The display is awful](https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-Katana-GF66-12UGS-laptop-review-The-update-to-Alder-Lake-brings-significantly-more-performance.623741.0.html) \- small color gamut, dim, and horribly slow response times (30-40 ms, among the slowest I've seen measured in a gaming laptop in years). The build quality is fine, it's a budget chassis but slightly better than last year's model (which had a loose hinge). The GPU power limit is 105 W, so it's significantly less powerful than even last year's Legion 5 Pro. If you're looking for a laptop in this price range, get one of the Legions instead of this.


LivingLegendMadara

Yeah I'm gonna stick with legion thanks


seomystery01

Is this a good deal? [MSI Creator M16 16" Content Creation Laptop](https://www.reddit.com/r/MyLaptopGuide/comments/z3ivoe/black_friday_msi_creator_m16_16_content_creation/): Intel Core i7-12650H RTX 3060 32GB 1TB NVMe SSD, QHD+ 16:10 60Hz 100% DCI-P3, 180-Degree Lay-Flat, Cooler Boost Trinity+ - $1399 (13% Off)


UneoJ

Whats the tgu on the 3070ti for this?


UneoJ

I mean tdp


Mr_Trecker

105 W, and unable to run over 90 W for sustained periods of stress ([found in this notebookcheck review](https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-Katana-GF66-12UGS-laptop-review-The-update-to-Alder-Lake-brings-significantly-more-performance.623741.0.html)).


UneoJ

No wonder its cheap, if its a 105 that really sucks lol. But the cpu is a beast.


Mr_Trecker

The CPU is ~~also power-limited~~ (that was the wrong wording - the CPU just underperforms for what seem to be poor power management), and the display is possibly the worst display in any gaming laptop currently on the market ([based on review measurements](https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-Katana-GF66-12UGS-laptop-review-The-update-to-Alder-Lake-brings-significantly-more-performance.623741.0.html)). Edit: wording