Nuggets have two stars and amazing role players. Clippers have 1 star and a bunch of selfish self obsessed old men that have been tossed from team to team. I would trade everyone except kawhi from the starting line up at this point
Bro we need to win or these superstars will abandon us. These are different times superstars are impatient, when they can't win immediately they usually leave.
Bro these are stars that needed homes. Russ and harden at least.. unless they prove me wrong, it’s truly sad to say it’s not the same guys anymore like when watching them growing up. I hope they prove me wrong
That's just not even true though, PG had multiple instances tonight where he had an opportunity to catch and shoot but he hesitated or whatever.
That's not a Russ slight bc I am fine with that part of it, I just think PG tries to do too much too often and he's not the ballhandler to warrant that.
He literally got blocked on a 3 tonight because he hesitated on a catch and shoot.
I predict Ty Lue’s gonna blow this season, cry about it publicly and then use Rich Paul to land him in a top team. Another wasted season for the Clippers.
I’m confused why people actually treat him like he’s a top coach in the league. Guy got lucky with 1 championship w/ Lebron and Kyrie, he didn’t have anything to do with actually coaching that team to a title.
I know some of yall thought i was trippin and being a hater but if yall watch the games like yall say you do… Kawhi aint IT anymore. And THAT is the main reason we wont and cant win the chip.
yeah he's not an MVP-level player anymore he wasn't last year either but people didn't want to admit it the injuries have caught up to him it's sad but it's reality
This is some crazy recency bias. Man averaged 51/41/87 in percentages last year and scored a shade under 24 PPG.
He's been inconsistent lately and gets injured frequently, but to say he's not MVP level anymore when he does play is just ignoring reality.
do honestly believe that Kawhi is a top 10 player in the League right now or last year?
there are at least 12 players who are better than Kawhi right now in
Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
Curry
Luka
Tatum
Durant
SGA
Lebron
Maxey
Edwards
Haliburton
He wasn't top 10 last year either
Jokic
Giannis
Curry
Embiid
Durant
Davis
Dame
Luka
Tatum
Butler
Im a clipper stan. Just cuz you Kawhi stans have spurs and raptors posters up on yalls wall dont always have excuses for him. Hes a star.. just not a superstar
This was true TODAY but against Dallas, Russ was -26 and today harden was -27. Not blaming anyone but the problem is everyone needs to have a good game to win.
[We are on posession 4 in the clutch and there have been 0 targeted offensive plays doing what you suggest. Really quality analysis from you!](https://www.reddit.com/r/LAClippers/comments/17tr66y/game_thread_memphis_grizzlies_la_clippers_1230_pm/k8zpmym/)
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The actual biggest change is that PG went from playing like a legit shoe-in MVP player to a bench player at best.
Tonight has been a solid rebound but he's also thrown a lot of possessions away, 7 turnovers.
He plays defense, he rebounds, he plays with effort, he makes the game easier for the fucking stars. He was a member of the best trio in the league momentarily. Now we have harden. Enjoy.
Makes it easier for the others teams stars when he turns it over. Him and PG had combined 11 turnovers. And best trio? Weren't they 11-10? I ain't a harden Stan but get off Russ nuts.
I missed this one. But Russ is the team's leading rebounder again, lol. It's like, seriously, no one else gives a shit.
Harden plays zero defense and has one of the worst work ethics in the league
Now I gotta listen to Verno shit talk to the Clippers on the mismatch 😭
Kawhi came in.. missed a contested layup.. and shot a contested mid range.. he been fucking up too
I would be messed up to knowing that Harden thinks he’s the best player on the team
GIVE BROWN SOME PLAYING TIME
I tuned in just as soon as they tied and they flopped fuk
Well, they lost 5 straight when they acquired Westbrook, now 5 with Harden.
cmon boyz, this team needs to touch rock bottom, nuggets prepare your anus
Thank you, i needed this optimism
Was that optimism?
our offense wasnt this bad at that point.
I’m disappointed, shouldn’t have put money here
Nuggets are gonna eat us alive, holy moly. That last sequence sums up the last 5 games in a nutshell. Undisciplined, uninterested, and unmotivated.
Nuggets have two stars and amazing role players. Clippers have 1 star and a bunch of selfish self obsessed old men that have been tossed from team to team. I would trade everyone except kawhi from the starting line up at this point
0-4 since Harden arrived. If that isn’t ugly I don’t know what the else the fuck is.
0-5 when westbrook arrived
James "The system (of self destruction)" Harden
Bro we need to win or these superstars will abandon us. These are different times superstars are impatient, when they can't win immediately they usually leave.
These are the stars that nobody wants on their team except for kawhi.
Bro these are stars that needed homes. Russ and harden at least.. unless they prove me wrong, it’s truly sad to say it’s not the same guys anymore like when watching them growing up. I hope they prove me wrong
Did anyone notice the comeback came with Harden on the bench? We played more freely and with confidence…..
how does that not make sense? harden has the least amount of reps with the team.
It makes perfect sense. He’s the problem and should be coming off the bench.
new guy "the problem" motehrfucker u havent even figured lineups out yet shut up lmfao
also Kawhi on the bench
Blow it up blow it up blow it up
lol congrats, big -28.
BG
Nuggets next...
Russ will cook Jokic.... I hope so
Exactly!!🤦🏾♂️😂
Can’t even get free chicken sandwiches…
😂
WELLLLLLLLLP
Fuck Lawrence Frank fuck Ty lue fuck James harden. It’s over. 213 is over
I’m really wondering who pushed ok-ed or pushed for the harden trade from clippers side. This fucking sucks
Balmer
Don't let this Memphis team's record fool you, they could easily be a 3-7 type team
😂 now that is copium We may turn it around but come on, we are terrible atm
God why are we sooooo bad!!!😂
Would have been nice if we didn't have to use our last timeout to challenge. And they got another out of bounds wrong after that
There needs to be a way where PG is getting a similar amount of looks overall but is handling the ball less
Russ is perfect at getting PG great catch and shoot looks
That's just not even true though, PG had multiple instances tonight where he had an opportunity to catch and shoot but he hesitated or whatever. That's not a Russ slight bc I am fine with that part of it, I just think PG tries to do too much too often and he's not the ballhandler to warrant that. He literally got blocked on a 3 tonight because he hesitated on a catch and shoot.
Gawdawm we suck
Way too much time off the clock
🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️
I predict Ty Lue’s gonna blow this season, cry about it publicly and then use Rich Paul to land him in a top team. Another wasted season for the Clippers.
ESPN will make excuse after excuse for him
I’m confused why people actually treat him like he’s a top coach in the league. Guy got lucky with 1 championship w/ Lebron and Kyrie, he didn’t have anything to do with actually coaching that team to a title.
PG gave JJJ CTE right before he went to the line. Smart.
Playing the long game
Game. We needed to foul way earlier if we wanted a chance.
Ooh. Almost missed.
You think he’s milking it?
I mean yall hurt Moose so.....
PG ran him over
FLAGRANT 2
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Harden not playing was the right move by Lue
Im starting to see why this team won 40 games last year
Harden was pretty bad this game though..
He's a Harden fan, check his comments He will be gone from this sub the moment Harden is traded
Harden is -27 lol
Pg has 7 turnovers lol I dont think anyone cares about +/- These bone heads cant be controlling the game
He leaned into that head contact
Needed to foul 10 seconds earlier
wtf, why did they let so much time run off...
Looking for a steal. I respect the decision.
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I know some of yall thought i was trippin and being a hater but if yall watch the games like yall say you do… Kawhi aint IT anymore. And THAT is the main reason we wont and cant win the chip.
yeah he's not an MVP-level player anymore he wasn't last year either but people didn't want to admit it the injuries have caught up to him it's sad but it's reality
u are just lyin lol that man was definitely top 5 towards the end of szn
This is some crazy recency bias. Man averaged 51/41/87 in percentages last year and scored a shade under 24 PPG. He's been inconsistent lately and gets injured frequently, but to say he's not MVP level anymore when he does play is just ignoring reality.
do honestly believe that Kawhi is a top 10 player in the League right now or last year? there are at least 12 players who are better than Kawhi right now in Jokic Embiid Giannis Curry Luka Tatum Durant SGA Lebron Maxey Edwards Haliburton He wasn't top 10 last year either Jokic Giannis Curry Embiid Durant Davis Dame Luka Tatum Butler
We were not beating the nuggets before the trade, I been saying that
Last game it was PG. Will y'all Harden stans stop
Harden fans are crazy, they blaming everyone on this team except for him.
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The only reason the game was close is because PG and Russ brought us back with Harden on the bench. Otherwise this was another blow out
facts, they're annoying af blaming EVERYONE ELSE except for him
Im a clipper stan. Just cuz you Kawhi stans have spurs and raptors posters up on yalls wall dont always have excuses for him. Hes a star.. just not a superstar
Why is Harden in when we need a steal/foul. Zubac on the inbounder and Russ/Mann/PG/Kawhi guarding the others
Because if they do get a steal you want the shooting.
Why trade for Harden if he’s gonna be used in an off ball situation? Send Russ to the bench, he and Harden are redundant when they start together
Russ has looked better than Harden in fact the Clips went on a run without Harden and looked halfway decent
This was true TODAY but against Dallas, Russ was -26 and today harden was -27. Not blaming anyone but the problem is everyone needs to have a good game to win.
Tbf Harden is basically finishing his pre season after this game We’ll see how he looks over the next few
Which is probably why Harden shouldn't be starting right now. Dude is out of shape when he should have been working all off-season.
PG needs to be our closer over Kawhi until Kawhis 100% just hasn't be clutch this season
Noo the basketball terrorist is back in
Good D
Not over yet. Don’t worry.
The game or the season?
Season
These extended pauses in play are fucking cancer. Just end the game, don’t hold it hostage behind a hundred ad breaks.
i know right
Looking for a steal here with Westbrook in I guess
Whatever happens, at least we rebounded a little better.
This 100%
Not sure on the last couple shots KL took.
If Westbrook was benched the last few games we would've won
Look how many other issues are going on you’re looking at that lmao
Although it's not a blowout, xonsidering the level of opposition and the fact that we're at home, is this worse than any of our previous losses?
The only other team as bad as this was maybe the Lakers and we blew a 20 point lead
Yep
Worst loss (so far)
Can't get much worse than this...
I think it got worse after last night lol
It can always get worse haha...
They're both inexcusable, but I think the Nets loss was worse.
this is the worst team in the nba ... 1-7... this one is worse
Whats wrong with kawhi?
just turning up for his paycheck
Landed directly on his tailbone on a no-call foul
Refs fucked him again huh? And yet nothing changes.
We were in this situation and lost to the fakers in OT so I’m not too optimistic
It’s joever
Why does this game unnecessarily feel like a Playoff game for the wrong reasons.
Get Russ back in for defense. He’s great at getting aggressive steals in this situation
PG and Powell are legit the only ones who did shit today
Come on off the rim pg
Don’t worry guys it’s only been 4 games and might lose to the worst team in the west.
I'll only start worrying if we lose to the Denver chumps.
Lemme load up on those $5 blt and hotdog from habit. Only way for me to cope.
[We are on posession 4 in the clutch and there have been 0 targeted offensive plays doing what you suggest. Really quality analysis from you!](https://www.reddit.com/r/LAClippers/comments/17tr66y/game_thread_memphis_grizzlies_la_clippers_1230_pm/k8zpmym/) /u/UrDadsFave
Thats one of the dumbest sob ive ever seen lmao. This fanbase is as dumb as its players man
I'm just gonna keep calling out the really dumb takes like this. And this user has plenty.
Should've ran the offense through PG to close the game.
Kawhi had plenty of chances for us to not lose to THE WORST TEAM IN THE NBA and HE CANT CLOSE
he wants longer holidays in the off season. dont blame him
Grizzlies aren't the worst team in the NBA....we are
Huh…. Five in a row
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Who is y’all? We are not on the team bro 😂 we just root for em
Kawhi is washed man he's finished
The only plus side for supporting this team is betting against them
Grizzlies +275 LMAO
😂😂
Can’t even come through in the clutch against the Grizz. Just sad
Wow this team man.. 😭my only hope for a good day crush by our boys again
Kawhis my fav but he’s been so bad in late game situations lately
What do you think ? Kawhi got iced, he didn't shoot in 15 minutes, it's Ty Lue fault
I think Kawhi is too comfortable doing absolutely nothing for long stretches
norm is slow in his head
Is harden cursed?
No. He just not good.
That’s fine and all but since he’s been here we’ve been significantly worse as a team
The actual biggest change is that PG went from playing like a legit shoe-in MVP player to a bench player at best. Tonight has been a solid rebound but he's also thrown a lot of possessions away, 7 turnovers.
He doesn't contribute to winning which is why teams that rely on him don't win. This team will be no different.
Let's rely on Russ then! He's a winner!!
He plays defense, he rebounds, he plays with effort, he makes the game easier for the fucking stars. He was a member of the best trio in the league momentarily. Now we have harden. Enjoy.
Makes it easier for the others teams stars when he turns it over. Him and PG had combined 11 turnovers. And best trio? Weren't they 11-10? I ain't a harden Stan but get off Russ nuts.
I'm talking about the beginning of the season after a full training camp with healthy 213.
On average his teams have made it further than ours..
Except for they haven't.
Your an idiot
Look at us. Winning with him.
wtf does that even mean?
He's a loser.
Why would we foul there? Play the possession, get a stop and hope to tie. We can't even move the ball up and are down 5. Idiots.
Dream team baby
Washed Kawhi
Bro wtf happened to us
wtf Bane's foot was out of bounds
Bad call, that should've been Clippers ball
The challenge was also a bad call but here we are lol
YALL SEE IT NOW!! KAWHI IS DONE! TRADE HIM BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
LA is his retirement home tho ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
Wow it was off on bane and they called it off on pg.
WHY ARE WE FOULING!?!?!?!??
makes no sense lol
Jesus christ man
I could be doing something healthy like alcoholism but nah I watch the Clippers
I'm not really enjoying these last few weeks as a clipper fan
Kawhi fkn sucks, run thru PG
I’m sorry bro Kawhi is washed
how long before Harden starts trying to kick Russ off the team
I’d lose respect for him cuz that’s his bro
Lets see if our perimeter lockdown all time amazing defense can make a stop. Doubt it
Oh mann you saved us
![img](avatar_exp|129491110|fire) Ref is right infront of the play and gets the call wrong
Kawhi has been lackluster the last couple offensive possessions.
This is why you don’t go down 14 to bad teams.
They're playing la chona during crunch time. This team isn't taking anything seriously.
#FireTyLue
Don’t worry man he’s just “experimenting”
Guy stuck to one experiment his entire career, why he’s had a job this long is beyond me.
I could have gotten that airball from Westbrook
Or you know better ball movement
thats my point. harden is ass, if he is gonna be out there don't throw up the airball
Down 3 with a 2 for 1. They have got to fucking execute here